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For knocking some rocks that were holding back pollution not actually caused by them?
I think they are saying that the river is fast moving and the hazardous chemicals will dissipate by the natural order of things. Then again, they probably thought their plug was going to hold too so it's hard to believe anything they say. This is the problem with government. Agencies can do everything right for years and then something like this happens and they are all stooges. It's a tough racket at times.
The mine had been closed for almost 100 years. This is on the EPA. No reason to make excuses for them. They royally ####ed up.Sue the people who created the pollution and abandoned the mine?
Didn't realize it had been closed that long, and not making excuses. My point was that we should be careful in allowing businesses to make messes they can't clean up on their own dime.The mine had been closed for almost 100 years. This is on the EPA. No reason to make excuses for them. They royally ####ed up.Sue the people who created the pollution and abandoned the mine?
These mines were built during the Colorado gold rush, before environmental regulations even existed. They are all abandoned.Didn't realize it had been closed that long, and not making excuses. My point was that we should be careful in allowing businesses to make messes they can't clean up on their own dime.The mine had been closed for almost 100 years. This is on the EPA. No reason to make excuses for them. They royally ####ed up.Sue the people who created the pollution and abandoned the mine?
The point is you are making a ridiculous attempt at deflecting and trying to make this about business, instead of about the government agency which is funded billions of dollars to take care of these things.Didn't realize it had been closed that long, and not making excuses. My point was that we should be careful in allowing businesses to make messes they can't clean up on their own dime.The mine had been closed for almost 100 years. This is on the EPA. No reason to make excuses for them. They royally ####ed up.Sue the people who created the pollution and abandoned the mine?
I was visualizing a gallon of milk. Arrange them 100 wide and long at the base. Stack them 100 high on top of that base. You get 1 million gallons. A cube about 75 feet on a side sounds exactly what I was attempting to visualize.
I don't know how damaging the material is to begin with in any volume, but this was why I was attempting to give a visual of how much material we're talking about here. When people see the word million thrown out it tends to lead to hyperbole.
The color of the river dramatically changed for 100 miles. The effect on habitat and spawning grounds will not be known for some time. Heavy metals tend to persist in the environment and arsenic tends to leach additional heavy metals into the water from the stream beds over which it flows.
Understood that the color change was temporarily visible on a short stretch as the spill passed through, but we're not talking about 100 miles of complete color change. From the article it sounds as if the clear color has already returned after the spill passed. This was why I tried to estimate the actual amount of the spill. Its possible this spill has almost no effect. Perhaps it has a huge effect. I don't know.
well, seeing as the EPA was there to "shore up" this site when they accidentally broke the earthen damn, it's kinda hard to pin this on money or republicans. But nice try tho. I'll give you a C+ for effort.
You mean like how the EPA has been trying to get the site designated a Super Fund site so they could get money to clean it up and locals have been fighting to stop that? Yeah all EPAs fault.
Keeping the EPA out was clearly the right move. Unfortunately, it looks like they got in somehow anyway.
This is why I love HD television. Pop in your Planet Earth DVD, and it's like you're right there, man.
You are ridiculous. We taxpayers are paying to clean up some company's mess. That sucks. I don't like it. What's done is done but, going forward, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I'd much rather us spend a few billion dollars now enforcing tighter regulations and corporate accountability than spending the bigger money cleaning up after they take the money and run.The point is you are making a ridiculous attempt at deflecting and trying to make this about business, instead of about the government agency which is funded billions of dollars to take care of these things.Didn't realize it had been closed that long, and not making excuses. My point was that we should be careful in allowing businesses to make messes they can't clean up on their own dime.The mine had been closed for almost 100 years. This is on the EPA. No reason to make excuses for them. They royally ####ed up.Sue the people who created the pollution and abandoned the mine?
