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Nick Barnett (1 Viewer)

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No link yet but there is a noon press conference scheduled.

Reportedly a $10 mil bonus with a yearly salary in the $5-6 million dollar range.

Ted Thompson just used some of the cap room...

 
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25-26 years old now, locked up for the next 5 years or so while he's at the top of his game. Seems like a decent deal and a good move to keep the the base (Barnett & Hawk) of the LB corps together for a while. I'm curious to see how it breaks down each year.

 
They mentioned before that Barnett might still be moved after he signed his new deal.

So if they still like Hodge at MLB it's not out of the question!

 
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.

Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.

 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I recall Hodge did defense two passes in limited playing time and got a defensive TD. He is every bit as fast as Barnett and a much harder hitter. He would make a better MLB, Barnett should be moved outside.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I know... 5 Tackles, 1 Assist, 2 Pass Defensed, 1 Fumble Recovery for a 29 yrd TD return. I understand this guy is a rookie and all and had to make a his first start due to injury, but he clearly is so far from being impressive. Sheesh, Barnett only had 4 games (wk4-5 tckls, wk5-10 tckls, wk13-6 tckls, wk15 9 tckls) where he racked up the same or more tackles. Hey, one game makes a year, no maybe a career! :goodposting: I know...I poored it on a bit, but I couldn't help it.I believe Barnett issue with moving to OLB was that his contract was coming up and he wanted to be paid as a MLB. Now that he's getting his pay, I wonder if has any objection? As for Hodge, he reminds me of Zach Thomas. He always seems to be around the ball, one of those plays that has a nose for it. I think he will do great...in time.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I know... 5 Tackles, 1 Assist, 2 Pass Defensed, 1 Fumble Recovery for a 29 yrd TD return. I understand this guy is a rookie and all and had to make a his first start due to injury, but he clearly is so far from being impressive. Sheesh, Barnett only had 4 games (wk4-5 tckls, wk5-10 tckls, wk13-6 tckls, wk15 9 tckls) where he racked up the same or more tackles. Hey, one game makes a year, no maybe a career! :sarcasm: I know...I poored it on a bit, but I couldn't help it.I believe Barnett issue with moving to OLB was that his contract was coming up and he wanted to be paid as a MLB. Now that he's getting his pay, I wonder if has any objection? As for Hodge, he reminds me of Zach Thomas. He always seems to be around the ball, one of those plays that has a nose for it. I think he will do great...in time.
The difference is Zach Thomas is always around the ball IN THE NFL. Hodge hasn't done a thing in the NFL and the one time he got a chance, he looked horrible.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
He also led the team in tackles and set the tone of the defense. HAWK>>>>>>>hodge
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.

Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
He also led the team in tackles and set the tone of the defense. HAWK>>>>>>>hodge
My point exactly, that Hawk did well when given the opportunity. Had Hodge been given a full season to start as a rookie also I think he would have had good numbers also, probably better than Barnett.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.

Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
He also led the team in tackles and set the tone of the defense. HAWK>>>>>>>hodge
My point exactly, that Hawk did well when given the opportunity. Had Hodge been given a full season to start as a rookie also I think he would have had good numbers also, probably better than Barnett.
:lmao:
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
Yes, he did. And then he corrected it. That was what was so awful about Hodge's performance against the Seahawks. He kept getting caught at the line, out of position, taking himself out of the play again and again. The same mistake over and over. Sure, Hawk made rookie mistakes against the Bears in week one, then he corrected and got better as the game went along. There's a reason Hodge was taken in the third round and Hawk was taken 5th overall...
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
Yes, he did. And then he corrected it. That was what was so awful about Hodge's performance against the Seahawks. He kept getting caught at the line, out of position, taking himself out of the play again and again. The same mistake over and over. Sure, Hawk made rookie mistakes against the Bears in week one, then he corrected and got better as the game went along. There's a reason Hodge was taken in the third round and Hawk was taken 5th overall...
I think what the other guy is saying is that Hawk, granted he's physically talented to boot, had an entire season get out all the kinks and such. Had Hodge been given anything more than a game, he'd have been able to adjust too. BTW - Hodge was rated highly coming into the draft and YES his only question was his coverage skills. His knack is that he's always around the ball (talking college) and showed that even during the preseason. You can knock him for his ONE game and mind you Hawk's first start was 3 tackles and 2 assists. Add that Hodge was hampered by injury for majority of the start of the season, so he didn't have the whole season to practice fully with the defense either and was thrust into starting within a week. How long did Hawk have to prepare? See, it's apples and oranges...I think GB drafted a real player, such as Zach Thomas. If you talk about that Hodge was taken in the 3rd, Zach Thomas was drafted in the 5th. So what does that mean? Not much, especially considering all the 1st round busts in the NFL. Matter of fact most of the scouts weren't high on Zach at all and questioned Miami selecting him, but scouts were high on Hodge. Plain and simple, Hodge has a nose for the ball and if you watch his past clips, you'll notice that he's always making the tackle or cleaning it up. You can't teach instinct, which is what it is. I think the cheeseheads will be very thankful that they not only got Hawk with the lofty draft pick, but got on hellva MLB when all is said and done. One game doesn't equal a career, you might think so...but surely it does not! Ok, enough beating this dead horse...
 
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sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
Yes, he did. And then he corrected it. That was what was so awful about Hodge's performance against the Seahawks. He kept getting caught at the line, out of position, taking himself out of the play again and again. The same mistake over and over. Sure, Hawk made rookie mistakes against the Bears in week one, then he corrected and got better as the game went along. There's a reason Hodge was taken in the third round and Hawk was taken 5th overall...
I think what the other guy is saying is that Hawk, granted he's physically talented to boot, had an entire season get out all the kinks and such. Had Hodge been given anything more than a game, he'd have been able to adjust too. BTW - Hodge was rated highly coming into the draft and YES his only question was his coverage skills. His knack is that he's always around the ball (talking college) and showed that even during the preseason. You can knock him for his ONE game and mind you Hawk's first start was 3 tackles and 2 assists. Add that Hodge was hampered by injury for majority of the start of the season, so he didn't have the whole season to practice fully with the defense either and was thrust into starting within a week. How long did Hawk have to prepare? See, it's apples and oranges...I think GB drafted a real player, such as Zach Thomas. If you talk about that Hodge was taken in the 3rd, Zach Thomas was drafted in the 5th. So what does that mean? Not much, especially considering all the 1st round busts in the NFL. Matter of fact most of the scouts weren't high on Zach at all and questioned Miami selecting him, but scouts were high on Hodge. Plain and simple, Hodge has a nose for the ball and if you watch his past clips, you'll notice that he's always making the tackle or cleaning it up. You can't teach instinct, which is what it is. I think the cheeseheads will be very thankful that they not only got Hawk with the lofty draft pick, but got on hellva MLB when all is said and done. One game doesn't equal a career, you might think so...but surely it does not! Ok, enough beating this dead horse...
Nick Barnett has stated on the radio today that he would be open to changing positions now that he's been paid so it appears that Brady Poppinga is the one who should be looking over his shoulder for Hodge.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
Yes, he did. And then he corrected it. That was what was so awful about Hodge's performance against the Seahawks. He kept getting caught at the line, out of position, taking himself out of the play again and again. The same mistake over and over. Sure, Hawk made rookie mistakes against the Bears in week one, then he corrected and got better as the game went along. There's a reason Hodge was taken in the third round and Hawk was taken 5th overall...
I think what the other guy is saying is that Hawk, granted he's physically talented to boot, had an entire season get out all the kinks and such. Had Hodge been given anything more than a game, he'd have been able to adjust too. BTW - Hodge was rated highly coming into the draft and YES his only question was his coverage skills. His knack is that he's always around the ball (talking college) and showed that even during the preseason. You can knock him for his ONE game and mind you Hawk's first start was 3 tackles and 2 assists. Add that Hodge was hampered by injury for majority of the start of the season, so he didn't have the whole season to practice fully with the defense either and was thrust into starting within a week. How long did Hawk have to prepare? See, it's apples and oranges...I think GB drafted a real player, such as Zach Thomas. If you talk about that Hodge was taken in the 3rd, Zach Thomas was drafted in the 5th. So what does that mean? Not much, especially considering all the 1st round busts in the NFL. Matter of fact most of the scouts weren't high on Zach at all and questioned Miami selecting him, but scouts were high on Hodge. Plain and simple, Hodge has a nose for the ball and if you watch his past clips, you'll notice that he's always making the tackle or cleaning it up. You can't teach instinct, which is what it is. I think the cheeseheads will be very thankful that they not only got Hawk with the lofty draft pick, but got on hellva MLB when all is said and done. One game doesn't equal a career, you might think so...but surely it does not! Ok, enough beating this dead horse...
Nick Barnett has stated on the radio today that he would be open to changing positions now that he's been paid so it appears that Brady Poppinga is the one who should be looking over his shoulder for Hodge.
Good point...and interesting how fast he mentioned it. Hodge wouldn't play in nickle situations, so Barnett and Hawk are safe in that regard too.
 
Nick Barnett has stated on the radio today that he would be open to changing positions now that he's been paid so it appears that Brady Poppinga is the one who should be looking over his shoulder for Hodge.
Good point...and interesting how fast he mentioned it. Hodge wouldn't play in nickle situations, so Barnett and Hawk are safe in that regard too.
He said last season that he would resist it because it might cut down on his ability to get paid. Now that he's been paid, he doesn't care about that anymore. Nick just seems to get it. He does business the right way as opposed to Al Harris and Mike McKenzie.
 
sho nuff said:
Good signing. Id like to see them move Hodge outside if possible...or even Barnett.

Been nice to see Hawk, Barnett, Hodge for years to come.
I wasn't all that impressed with Hodge in his start last season. Until he can learn to cover, I'd rather not see him starting. We already went through that once at LB.
I would settle for learning how to make his reads and not getting lost in the trash at the line. He was downright pitiful in his one start, yet there are some here who are sure he's ready to take over the middle from Barnett. Unreal...
And A.J.Hawk overpursued and missed lots of tackles too, does that make him pitiful as well?
Yes, he did. And then he corrected it. That was what was so awful about Hodge's performance against the Seahawks. He kept getting caught at the line, out of position, taking himself out of the play again and again. The same mistake over and over. Sure, Hawk made rookie mistakes against the Bears in week one, then he corrected and got better as the game went along. There's a reason Hodge was taken in the third round and Hawk was taken 5th overall...
I think what the other guy is saying is that Hawk, granted he's physically talented to boot, had an entire season get out all the kinks and such. Had Hodge been given anything more than a game, he'd have been able to adjust too. BTW - Hodge was rated highly coming into the draft and YES his only question was his coverage skills. His knack is that he's always around the ball (talking college) and showed that even during the preseason. You can knock him for his ONE game and mind you Hawk's first start was 3 tackles and 2 assists. Add that Hodge was hampered by injury for majority of the start of the season, so he didn't have the whole season to practice fully with the defense either and was thrust into starting within a week. How long did Hawk have to prepare? See, it's apples and oranges...

I think GB drafted a real player, such as Zach Thomas. If you talk about that Hodge was taken in the 3rd, Zach Thomas was drafted in the 5th. So what does that mean? Not much, especially considering all the 1st round busts in the NFL. Matter of fact most of the scouts weren't high on Zach at all and questioned Miami selecting him, but scouts were high on Hodge. Plain and simple, Hodge has a nose for the ball and if you watch his past clips, you'll notice that he's always making the tackle or cleaning it up. You can't teach instinct, which is what it is. I think the cheeseheads will be very thankful that they not only got Hawk with the lofty draft pick, but got on hellva MLB when all is said and done. One game doesn't equal a career, you might think so...but surely it does not!

Ok, enough beating this dead horse...
I don't.Funny how you cite statistics to show how Hawk had such a subpar game, but you don't mention anything about his actual play. I assume you are looking at the box-score and not at a tape of the game, which is what I was looking at for both Hawk and Hodge. Stats are not the game or how it's played.

All that said, I understand your points, and I hope for the Packers' sake that you are right.

 

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