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Nigerian Islamists kidnap 200 schoolgirls, massacre hundreds (1 Viewer)

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Kano (Nigeria) (AFP) - A Boko Haram massacre has killed hundreds in Nigeria's northeast, multiple sources said on Wednesday, as police offered $300,000 for information leading to the rescue of more than 200 schoolgirls held hostage by the Islamists.


The latest insurgent attack targeted the town of Gamboru Ngala on the border with Cameroon, where gunmen this week razed scores of buildings and fired on civilians as they tried to flee.

Area Senator Ahmed Zanna put the death toll at 300, citing information provided by locals, in an account supported by numerous residents.

Zanna said the town had been left unguarded because soldiers based there had been redeployed north towards Lake Chad in an effort to rescue more than 200 girls kidnapped by Boko Haram on April 14.

The shocking mass abduction has sparked global outrage and offers of help from the United States, Britain, France and China.

Nigeria's response to the kidnappings has been widely criticised, including by activists and parents of the hostages who say the military's search operation has been inept so far.

The police on Monday offered 50 million naira ($300,000, 215,000 euros) for any information leading to the girls' rescue.

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Map locating Gamboru Ngala, site of Monday's deadly Boko Haram raid (AFP Photo/I. Véricourt)
President Goodluck Jonathan's administration has sought to appear more engaged with the plight of the hostages in recent days, especially after Boko Haram chief Abubakar Shekau released a video threatening to sell the girls as "slaves".

In a second kidnapping, 11 more girls aged 12 to 15 years were seized Sunday from Gwoza, an area not far from Chibok and also in Borno state, Boko Haram's base.

The group's five-year uprising has killed thousands across Africa's most populous country and top economy, with many questioning whether Nigeria has the capacity to contain the violence.

- Charred bodies, throats cut -

Islamist fighters riding in armoured trucks and on motorcycles stormed Gamboru Ngala after midday on Monday.

The extremists overran the town, making it too dangerous for locals to immediately return, survivors said.

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A grab made on May 5, 2014 from a video obtained by AFP of the leader of the Islamist extremist grou …
When the militants left, residents discovered their town "littered" with dead bodies, Musa Abba, a witness, told AFP.

"All economic and business centres have been burnt. The market in the town which attracts traders from all over the area... has been completely burnt," the senator said.

Gamboru Ngala has been attacked repeatedly in the past but Abba said "this (was) the worst Boko Haram attack (the town) has seen".

The Cameroonian military has reinforced security in the town of Fotokol on the Nigerian border, a medical source told AFP by phone, requesting anonymity.

"The toll is very heavy. We believe there are more than 200 dead," the source said, adding that 2,000 Nigerians, including soldiers had fled to Cameroon.

"Some of the bodies were charred. It was horrific. People had their throats slit, others were shot," the source added.

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US President Barack Obama has described the Chibok abductions as "heartbreaking" and "outrageous", and announced that a team of military experts had been sent to help Nigeria's rescue mission.

British Prime Minister David Cameron on Wednesday condemned the kidnappers as "pure evil" and that a small team of planning and coordinating specialists will head to Nigeria to advise on the search.

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said a "special team" was at Nigeria's disposal, while Jonathan said that visiting Chinese Premier Li Keqiang had also pledged assistance.

Analysts said Jonathan's acceptance of Western military assistance suggested an admission that he can no longer manage the Boko Haram uprising without help.

As well as mounting pressure over the kidnappings, Nigeria has been hit by a spate of bombings.

Just a few hours before the mass abduction in Chibok, a car bombing at a bus station on the outskirts of Abuja killed 75 people in the deadliest attack to hit the capital.

A copycat bombing at the same station killed 19 people on May 1.

To contain the violence, Jonathan has imposed a state of emergency in the northeast where he sent thousands of troops to flush out the insurgents, but critics say the offensive has achieved almost nothing.

- World meet overshadowed -

Jonathan had hoped that a World Economic Forum summit which opened in Abuja on Wednesday would highlight Nigeria's economic progress.

Meeting Jonathan in Abuja ahead of the summit, China's Li pledged stronger cooperation with Nigeria, Africa's top oil producer, but public focus has remained fixed on Boko Haram.

Amid the outrage over the kidnappings and the twin attack just a few kilometres from central Abuja, Nigeria has promised the World Economic Forum will be kept safe by the 6,000 troops deployed across the capital.

"That show of force may keep the delegates safe, but Nigeria's deeply troubled government cannot protect its people, attract investment and lead the country to its full potential if it cannot contain a virulent insurgency," the New York Times said in an editorial on Wednesday.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.

 
I'm not big on the US jumping into every conflict but I'd happily turn the cheek to sending in a small black ops group to kill every last one of those Neanderthals.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are millions of slaves in Africa. There are also forced marriages and indentured servitude in Saudi Arabia and Qatar who are close U.S. allies.

New to the world?

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are more slaves now than in any point in history.

 
I'm not big on the US jumping into every conflict but I'd happily turn the cheek to sending in a small black ops group to kill every last one of those Neanderthals.
Apparently we're sending a team of military and police experts to help.

What's really tragic is that most children in Nigeria do not receive the amount of education that these girls did, which is one of the main reasons they were abducted. The Islamists cannot tolerate the idea of girls receiving a first class education.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are millions of slaves in Africa. There are also forced marriages and indentured servitude in Saudi Arabia and Qatar who are close U.S. allies.

New to the world?
No, I know this. But I suppose, much like Anne Frank, it takes a personal story for it to hit home.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are more slaves now than in any point in history.
Tim thinks things are getting better. We've gone over this in other threads.

American suburbia has a way of masking the realities of what is happening in the majority of the world.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are millions of slaves in Africa. There are also forced marriages and indentured servitude in Saudi Arabia and Qatar who are close U.S. allies.

New to the world?
No, I know this. But I suppose, much like Anne Frank, it takes a personal story for it to hit home.
Boko Haram has made a very public display of this, and so I hope the U.S. takes an active role in putting the smack down on them. The world is watching. How can we turn away? I wouldn't be surprised if our role is already greater than the announced number of military and civilian advisors.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I say that we just have someone pose as a customer and buy the schoolgirls. He probably isn't asking for much and then we bust him when he he reaches for the briefcase full of cash.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I say that we just have someone pose as a customer and buy the schoolgirls. He probably isn't asking for much and then we bust him when he he reaches for the briefcase full of cash.
Since when can 5 chickens and a camel fit into a briefcase?

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I say that we just have someone pose as a customer and buy the schoolgirls. He probably isn't asking for much and then we bust him when he he reaches for the briefcase full of cash.
Since when can 5 chickens and a camel fit into a briefcase?
Good point. How about a bag of chicken sandwiches and a pack of camels?

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
"Allowed"?

 
Nigeria is so damn corrupt - I guess it takes this kind of exposure for them to allow us to help. Things like this make me glad that we're the world's policeman.

 
While the situation is disgusting and very troubling - especially considering the type of multi-country effort there has been to find the missing plane - it's easy to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the USA was the home to this type of disgusting activity as well. You can't expect every country to move at the same speed as us so it's not surprising that this stuff still happens. It will reduce at some point but as long as we are supporting these oil/diamond/resource states and corrupt regimes there won't be much change. It is time for the first world to start talking with the biggest stick it has - money.

 
Couldn't find a thread on this- if this is a Honda, let me know and I will delete.

The latest insurgent attack targeted the town of Gamboru Ngala on the border with Cameroon, where gunmen this week razed scores of buildings and fired on civilians as they tried to flee.
Cockroaches like this need to be executed. Breakout the Brimstone missle for more tests.

 
While the situation is disgusting and very troubling - especially considering the type of multi-country effort there has been to find the missing plane - it's easy to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the USA was the home to this type of disgusting activity as well. You can't expect every country to move at the same speed as us so it's not surprising that this stuff still happens. It will reduce at some point but as long as we are supporting these oil/diamond/resource states and corrupt regimes there won't be much change. It is time for the first world to start talking with the biggest stick it has - money.
You are ignoring the Islamist element of this, which IMO is just as troubling as the slavery aspect.

Islamism is an attempt to bring the whole world to radical, fundamentalist Islam through violent means. It is pure evil. It is the basis for most of the terrorism that occurs today, and most of the violence in the world today. There are no comparable movements in any religion other than Islam.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I have no idea where the liberals and progressives have been on this but it looks like maybe the cavalry is finally arriving.

Muslim slavers captured and transported to the holding jails in Africa a good number of the slaves that landed in the Americas, heck they created the original business.

Today muslims (in some/many places, obviously not all) hold women without rights, abuse them in unspeakable ways as a matter of law, and somehow this constantly escapes our political attention. And the slave trade continues, and I'm not sure it's just women. And I'm not sure it's just Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

What kind of moral focus does it take to see this?

 
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While the situation is disgusting and very troubling - especially considering the type of multi-country effort there has been to find the missing plane - it's easy to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the USA was the home to this type of disgusting activity as well. You can't expect every country to move at the same speed as us so it's not surprising that this stuff still happens. It will reduce at some point but as long as we are supporting these oil/diamond/resource states and corrupt regimes there won't be much change. It is time for the first world to start talking with the biggest stick it has - money.
You are ignoring the Islamist element of this, which IMO is just as troubling as the slavery aspect.

Islamism is an attempt to bring the whole world to radical, fundamentalist Islam through violent means. It is pure evil. It is the basis for most of the terrorism that occurs today, and most of the violence in the world today. There are no comparable movements in any religion other than Islam.
The crusades? Or are you meaning in modern times? Religion is just like any ideology, similar to nazism or white supremacy - it's about creating an us vs them mentality and controlling the masses so I don't think this is about islamism. It's about blaming your suffering on something than yourself instead of just recognizing that suffering is a part of life and needs to just be let go.

Islam is just the flavor of the month. Yes it's dangerous right now but it will always be something until we move above and beyond....

 
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Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I have no idea where the liberals and progressives have been on this but it looks like maybe the cavalry is finally arriving.

Muslim slavers captured and transported to the holding jails in Africa a good number of the slaves that landed in the Americas, heck they created the original business.

Today muslims (in some/many places, obviously not all) hold women without rights, abuse them in unspeakable ways as a matter of law, and somehow this constantly escapes our political attention. And the slave trade continues, and I'm not sure it's just women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

And I'm not sure it's just Africa.

What kind of moral focus does it take to see this?
One of the major reasons that I am not and never could be a liberal is because they seem to always want to look for moral relevancy, particularly when it comes to Islam. Anytime a barbaric act is committed by Islamic or Islamist forces, we invariably have to hear about how Christianity is just as bad. Frankly I'm sick of it. Christianity, Judaism, no religion you could name has these sorts of problems world wide.

 
What kind of moral focus does it take to see this?
What do you mean by this?
Tim's comment:

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
I'd say it's been happening but we as a country have generally not been motivated to do anything about it.

Until now.
Do you think it's a lack of motivation or an abundance of caution? Probably a little of both I guess. All I know is that things don't always work out so well when the U.S. starts dropping into other countries to right wrongs. This too strikes me as something that might not turn out well for us.

 
Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, said the extremist group was holding the schoolgirls abducted from Chibok on April 14 as "slaves" and threatened to "sell them in the market."

Unbelievable that this sort of #### is allowed to happen.
There are more slaves now than in any point in history.
i would gladly pick cotton in the fall for free room and board and a chance to bang the masters wife.

 
While the situation is disgusting and very troubling - especially considering the type of multi-country effort there has been to find the missing plane - it's easy to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the USA was the home to this type of disgusting activity as well. You can't expect every country to move at the same speed as us so it's not surprising that this stuff still happens. It will reduce at some point but as long as we are supporting these oil/diamond/resource states and corrupt regimes there won't be much change. It is time for the first world to start talking with the biggest stick it has - money.
You are ignoring the Islamist element of this, which IMO is just as troubling as the slavery aspect.Islamism is an attempt to bring the whole world to radical, fundamentalist Islam through violent means. It is pure evil. It is the basis for most of the terrorism that occurs today, and most of the violence in the world today. There are no comparable movements in any religion other than Islam.
Radicalism is evil whether it is Islamic or Christian or Communist. The defining factor is the radicalism.

 
Here's your next president's contribution to the matter.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2014/05/08/hillary_dropped_the_ball_on_boko_haram_331762.html

The State Department under Hillary Clinton fought hard against placing the al Qaeda-linked militant group Boko Haram on its official list of foreign terrorist organizations for two years. And now, lawmakers and former U.S. officials are saying that the decision may have hampered the American government’s ability to confront the Nigerian group that shocked the world by abducting hundreds of innocent girls.

 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country? So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
 
While the situation is disgusting and very troubling - especially considering the type of multi-country effort there has been to find the missing plane - it's easy to forget that it wasn't that long ago that the USA was the home to this type of disgusting activity as well. You can't expect every country to move at the same speed as us so it's not surprising that this stuff still happens. It will reduce at some point but as long as we are supporting these oil/diamond/resource states and corrupt regimes there won't be much change. It is time for the first world to start talking with the biggest stick it has - money.
You are ignoring the Islamist element of this, which IMO is just as troubling as the slavery aspect.Islamism is an attempt to bring the whole world to radical, fundamentalist Islam through violent means. It is pure evil. It is the basis for most of the terrorism that occurs today, and most of the violence in the world today. There are no comparable movements in any religion other than Islam.
Radicalism is evil whether it is Islamic or Christian or Communist. The defining factor is the radicalism.
No, in this case the defining factor is Islam, which alone among religions in modern history allows this sort of thing to flourish.
 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country?So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
Was slavery worse than the Jews having 6 million of their people exterminated? At some point this eternal victimhood mentality needs to stop.

 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country?So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
Was slavery worse than the Jews having 6 million of their people exterminated? At some point this eternal victimhood mentality needs to stop.
:goodposting:

Every single race has been discriminated against. If one of your own has managed to fight through all the oppressive forces to become President of the United States of America I think you can find the strength and motivation to persevere.

 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country?So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
Was slavery worse than the Jews having 6 million of their people exterminated? At some point this eternal victimhood mentality needs to stop.
In terms of immediate results, of course not. In terms of results over time, very possibly.
 
Here's your next president's contribution to the matter.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2014/05/08/hillary_dropped_the_ball_on_boko_haram_331762.html

The State Department under Hillary Clinton fought hard against placing the al Qaeda-linked militant group Boko Haram on its official list of foreign terrorist organizations for two years. And now, lawmakers and former U.S. officials are saying that the decision may have hampered the American governments ability to confront the Nigerian group that shocked the world by abducting hundreds of innocent girls.
If you read the entire article, you will see there were good reasons for Clinton's decision, one of the main ones being she thought that the designation would give the group a greater amount of notoriety, and thus support, among the radical elements of Islam. Also there is very little evidence that the designation would have done anything to prevent these actions.
 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country?So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
Was slavery worse than the Jews having 6 million of their people exterminated? At some point this eternal victimhood mentality needs to stop.
:goodposting:

Every single race has been discriminated against. If one of your own has managed to fight through all the oppressive forces to become President of the United States of America I think you can find the strength and motivation to persevere.
We really should have this discussion in another thread.
 
Islam is just the flavor of the month last 1300 years.
Fixed that up for you.
Tell that to all the african americans that were terroized as part of the growth of this great country
Curious who you think sold rounded up Africans for sale in their own country?So sick and tired of this ####. There have been slaves of every race throughout history. There is only onec race that still ####### mopes about it.
As well they should. Not that it has anything to do with his topic, but the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow has a great negative affect on black Americans even today. How can any reasonable person refuse to acknowledge this?
Was slavery worse than the Jews having 6 million of their people exterminated? At some point this eternal victimhood mentality needs to stop.
In terms of immediate results, of course not. In terms of results over time, very possibly.
Unfortunately many of the wounds today keeping blacks from advancing are self-inflicted. Racism still exists today, but it is not tolerated. Society has advanced and the African-American community needs to recognize it. Gangs are the #1 problem keeping black children from getting out of the ghettos.

 
Anyhow, Clinton's recent tweets have helped to bring this story to the American public, which hasn't been paying attention. She deserves credit for that.

 

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