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nothing is a sure thing. i beleive moss is worth the shot and a sure thing in my eyes. name 1 guy thats a sure thing and ill give you a negative about him.
that year he was banged up to but with that 700 yards he had 13tds now thats something.
You just can't stop, can you? Sure, 13 td's is something, but he was 900 yards short of what he had the previous year (that's 90 points in most scoring systems). His 13 td's amounted to less than that. He's going to have to prove he's still got it.
It's funny. A guy with a TO jersey hanging in his picture says Moss isn't a sure thing. I think Randy has fininshed more seasons in his career than your boy has.
I took Moss in the first round 8th pick last year in my inital dynasty draft. When you watch him play, he makes catches that no ordinary wr could make.. He goes up and comes down with it...Another issue last year which just pissed me off when watching the raiders was that Collins just stunk up the place and didn't throw to moss as often as he should. A couple games they were in scoring position with one play left. When he threw to moss, he caught it and they won. The two other times they were in that situation, he threw to porter or Jordan and they lost. How many games did Moss have were he had like 2 targets and 1 catch...
Jurb, I'm agreeing with you way too much lately.I love the short term memories of some FFers.
I hate leagues that score 1 point for every 10 yards. Any more than 1 point per 20 yards is not the league for me. 100 yards = 5 points, TD = 6 points. Seems fair to me. 100 yards rushing/receiving < TD. 10 points per 100 yds is too much IMO.
Charles Rodgers is a sure thing.
I disagree about as strongly as it is humanly possible to disagree with this statement.To wit: A team gets the ball on the far 1 yard line. WR#1 gets a 98 yard reception. WR#2 catches a 1 yard TD pass. Who just made the better play?
I was lower than most on Moss last season, since players with extraordinary athletic ability aren't as accustomed to working as hard to see their results. Randy Moss is an athletic freak, and has never needed to work nearly as hard as a Jerry Rice or a Rod Smith to be successful in the league. As a result, when he got injured, he wasn't accustomed to working hard enough to rehab as well as those other guys. Sure enough, he's been bothered with nagging injuries for two straight seasons so far.I'm higher on Moss than the general public and still think he's a top-5 guy, but I'm very wary of him, at the same time. I want to see him get back to 100% and stay there for a couple of years.
Why not?
Unless Moss is hurt is there any reason NOT to start him? If he's not hurt he's a must start every week. Moss>>>>>>>>>>>>Plax aka (houdini)
He is just saying that Moss will start for you every week is like saying that I took Alexander as my RB and he will start for me every week.If you drafted Moss, he is likely the first WR you drafted, so saying you are going to start him no matter what is kind of meaningless.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
Considering Burress is going to outproduce Moss this year, and probably by a lot.... I don't see how you can argue his statement invalid.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
I don't think he's that high-risk/high-reward, and I'm curious how you got "burned" by him. He finished last season as the #15 ranked WR and the #36 overall player. Not spectacular, but hardly a "bust". I mean, the #36 overall player is still a 3rd rounder (albeit the last one). So you got a WR in the first two rounds and he performed like a late 3rd rounder. Considering how many players GENUINELY bust, I wouldn't be upset with that at all.The lowest Moss has ever finished is WR19, and that was in a season where he missed 3 games. While he does have a higher-than-average injury risk at this stage, it's balanced by the fact that he has a lower-than-average bust risk. Injured or not... if he's playing, he's start-worthy.
I wasn't saying Plax was better than Moss.What I was saying is, if you have Moss on your team you would also need to have Harrison, Chad Johnson and Terrel Owens on your team for you not to start Moss every week.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
Considering Burress is going to outproduce Moss this year, and probably by a lot.... I don't see how you can argue his statement invalid.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
Thanks I needed that!
I wasn't saying Plax was better than Moss.What I was saying is, if you have Moss on your team you would also need to have Harrison, Chad Johnson and Terrel Owens on your team for you not to start Moss every week.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
Having said that, the same would apply for the likes of Plaxico Buress, Joe Horn, Roy Williams, Rod Smith, Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne and even Chris Chambers. If you don't have Harrison, Chad Johnson and Terrel Owens on your team as well, all those guys are must starts each week as well.
I suppose you expect your 16-0 Cowboys to dominate Super Bowl XLI as well.... with TO getting 800 receptions for 9000 yards and 130 TDs.Wake up and smell theConsidering Burress is going to outproduce Moss this year, and probably by a lot.... I don't see how you can argue his statement invalid.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
. This isn't the 90s. Randy Moss isn't the undisputed champion of the WR universe anymore, Bill Parcells isn't the amazing coach he used to be, and your Cowboys are a .500 team at best.
I would start a healthy Moss over Harrison barring totally opposite matchups (like Moss vs. Pitt and Harrison vs. STL), and I would definitely start a healthy Moss over Chad. Chad will never win you a game like Moss can, he's not that type of WR.I wasn't saying Plax was better than Moss.What I was saying is, if you have Moss on your team you would also need to have Harrison, Chad Johnson and Terrel Owens on your team for you not to start Moss every week.Why not?
I'm surprised of all people you'd actually put these two in the same post. It's almost like believe the world is still flat.
Having said that, the same would apply for the likes of Plaxico Buress, Joe Horn, Roy Williams, Rod Smith, Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne and even Chris Chambers. If you don't have Harrison, Chad Johnson and Terrel Owens on your team as well, all those guys are must starts each week as well.
I'll assume you mean a year and a half.If there was a once dominant WR that, barring a devastating injury (e.g. torn ACL), hasn't been able to stay healthy for 18 months, he's got to prove to me that he can be dominant again. Until he does, I can't imagine starting him over a proven consistent stud like CJ.
Funny, lots of people said this same exact thing about kerry collins last year. Didn't happen.Im taking the wait and see approach with Moss. If I can get a steal for him as my WR2 then I would do it and hope for the best, but I think the guy has "turned the corner" but made a wrong turn. Still a good WR, but not the dominating player he was 3 years ago. If healthy I think he will place in the top 10 but somewhere around 6-8.
