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HGH doesnt help you gain weight, especially that much that quick. Test maybe, but not HGH.
You obviously don't know Devine too well. Pound for pound probably one of the toughest and strongest guys around. He's been benching/squatting near the top of the team ranks for 4 years now. To say he's humble and has a strong work ethic is an understatement too. If you've seen photos of him in the flesh, you'll see why he could probably put this weight on so quick. If he does have a bum ankle, no point in making it worse, then having your bad 40 time sit out there as the only thing to go off of.
I don't see why it's necessarily a bad thing or how it reeks of poor planning.
Significant gains and losses in a short period of time is not good for the body and will not help him perform next fall. It's poor planning because he could've started this program three weeks earlier since he had to know his greatest question he was going to need to overcome is size. He could've gotten on a 12 week program to add 15-20 lbs of good, solid muscle between then and early April. Then invite people to a private workout when you show a greater range of your skillset because you aren't built the same as you were 3 months prior. Instead he chose a quick fix, whatever it was, that isn't going to help him when the actually training begins this summer.
It's 16 pounds in a month. It can be done. It can be done safely. He may have cheated or accomplished this gain in an unsafe manner but I don't have enough information to judge one way or the other.I don't know this weight gain is going to hurt him come summer training. If anything, I could see it helping.
Devine wasn't at all the same player all last year due to injury as well. You can take that either way though. I believe he played through injury all year and tried his best to help his team. On the other hand, he really struggled and played hesitant with what many would call a minor injury.Overall, I like the kid, but he's got to prove to people that last year wasn't him when (IIRC) he didn't even miss a game due to the injury.
Probably, which still isn't a good thing.You'd think after cases like Sid Rice in 09 and Bowe in 010 who finally took their training seriously and then broke out the following year that others would take notice. In a league where the margin of error, especially for those not superiorly gifted physically, is near zero proper training technique is vital to success.
In non-ppr he is prolly un-rosterable
Oh, he will be rostered. He will be rostered.
4.26 is special fast and special fast has a place in an NFL offense. Your ceiling seems much more like a floor to me. Faster than Jamaal Charles and close to the same BMI.
I think the fact that he'd call Darren Sproles big guy hurts his value. FA IMO.
A lot of scouts (and analysts) add .10 or so to the time at Pro Days - partially because it's hand timed (which is less accurate) partially because there can be some 'home town cooking'. THAT I've seen with my own eyes at Pro Days.Still very fast even with an added .10.
I don't get your argument, or point. Straightline speed means nothing if he can't get free? Are you questioning his quickness?And don't discredit his 40 time. It makes you sound like you don't know what you're talking about. I looked up pro-day numbers, going back to 2005 and there were exactly ZERO RBs or WRs that ran 4.2s. ZERO. Nobody is claiming he is a workhorse, so a RBBC role is perfect for him. Call it a spell, or whatever you want. He has potential.
180 lbs.
for an NFL team very possible, but not for a FF team.
obviously
He played at 175 for 3 years. he was 170 his Freshman year. I also don't get the "light" comment. He was injured last year, facing 8 or 9 in the box at times and ran between the tackles a good deal. He always fell forward and churned out an extra yard or two with his legs. He has tremendous upper body strength, good lower body push, excellent burst and acceleration, very good lateral quickness, very good vision, and heart. When healthy he can be better than Sproles.
When healthy he could also be much worse than Sproles. A lot of people forget how awesome Sproles was in college. He was a better player than Devine. He had more carries, more yards, a higher yards per carry, and about 50% more touchdowns. For fantasy purposes, outside of return leagues- Sproles has never been particularly useful- he has never had more than 850 total yards and never had more than 7 tds.Stats No Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD
The weight of the players is in the same range. However, when I see Devine take contact as compared to Dunn, it appears as if he weighs significantly less.
That is quite a statment you make. Would you say Sproles is a better player than Mark Ingram? A lot of his stats are better than Ingram's, including YPC.Should we ignore the fact that WVU didn't have the offensive line that Sproles did, or the consistant QB play to keep the defense honest?
I agree that it sounds strange. But Devine put 225 lbs 25 time. A 160 pounder that just started lifting doesn't come close to that. He clearly didn't play at 160, but I don't know how close to 180 he played at either.Also, he weighed 179 again at his pro day. He ran a 4.26. He didn't skip the combine so he could lose weight and run a faster time. He was hurt.'JamesTheScot said:
Not sure you aren't talking out of your rear here... Dunn hardly ever took contact. He was one of the best I've ever seen at minimizing his contact. I used to be amazed at how hard it was to get a clean hit on that guy. Divine on the other hand will bang it around some.. Also, later in Dunn's career, he played at near 200 lbs, and I imagine most of what you'd remember would be NFL on Dunn, where as you've only seen young Divine if you've seen him at all..
There are plenty of RB's that tend to avoid contact, and Dunn was one of the best at it.Here again, I belive you're comparing a 200 pound dunn later in his career to a 170 pound Divine from college..And I don't know how Sproles gets into a convo where we're comparing Devine to Dunn.
