How many changes will he make there? Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D, so will he concentrate on D first, or O (which is more needed IMO)?Ok, so he has some experience with crappy WRs - good.He didn't really build the D, but kept it good and got some key players. Did he have any input in those selections?Nolan just finished his third season as Baltimore coordinator and has been a coach for 18 years. His NFL work dates to Dan Reeves' 1987 Broncos. Nolan coached linebackers for Reeves and eventually became the special teams coach and defensive assistant. In 1993, he was defensive coordinator for Reeves with the New York Giants.Ravens coach Brian Billick hired him to coach wide receivers in 2001 and then made him defensive coordinator the following season.
I wouldn't call the Ravens a sinking ship but I would agree this is not a great signing by the Niners.Nolan just abandoned a sinking ship while he could. This will not be a good hiring for the 49ers.
On what basis do you have to say it's not a great signing? Please enlighten us.What would have been a "great" signing then?I wouldn't call the Ravens a sinking ship but I would agree this is not a great signing by the Niners.Nolan just abandoned a sinking ship while he could. This will not be a good hiring for the 49ers.
Uh, no-These types of myopic 9'ers fans are in for a tough 2 or 3 years. To begin with- Carter blows and will likely be gone. There was talk that they would release him mid-season. What a huge 1st round bust. Smith is an average LB on a crappy D. Peterson is coming off a huge injury and will likely be gone. Is this team really going to pay him Ray Lewis money after that injury? ####### agent passed on a nice contract and got the franchise tag. Well, we know what happened next. 7 out!This team has the WORST talent in the NFL and their salary cap situation sucks. I feel sorry for Nolan. He will be gone in 2 years after they go 3-13 and 5-11. Lucky for them that the NFC West blows. Maybe they can sneak in at 5-11.Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D...
The same couldhavebeen said about the Chargers last year. Other than Ladainian Tomlinson and Donnie Edwards, the Chargers had nothing at this time last year. Things change fast in the NFL. Under good direction a club can improve fast, and apparently that is what YOrk is after this time ad is willing to open up his checkbook.Uh, no-These types of myopic 9'ers fans are in for a tough 2 or 3 years. To begin with- Carter blows and will likely be gone. There was talk that they would release him mid-season. What a huge 1st round bust. Smith is an average LB on a crappy D. Peterson is coming off a huge injury and will likely be gone. Is this team really going to pay him Ray Lewis money after that injury? ####### agent passed on a nice contract and got the franchise tag. Well, we know what happened next. 7 out!This team has the WORST talent in the NFL and their salary cap situation sucks. I feel sorry for Nolan. He will be gone in 2 years after they go 3-13 and 5-11. Lucky for them that the NFC West blows. Maybe they can sneak in at 5-11.Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D...
I don't know which is more insulting, being called myopic or a 49er fan. I'm not calling Carter "great" by any means, but I don't think he's as bad as it appeared. A different system can help a DE a lot.Derek Smith is solid to good, maybe he benefitted by the rest sucking, but he should be around for another couple years at least.How bad is Peterson's injury? I'm going more by talent than his current health, as I really don't know how he is. He may be gone though, so you're right there.At least you didn't argue with Parrish. But I'm sure no coach has ever turned a team around, from worst to decent in a year. He has his work cut out for him, and this might be a filler until a new coach is brought in when the team can get some players, but I'm interested to see what he does.Uh, no-These types of myopic 9'ers fans are in for a tough 2 or 3 years. To begin with- Carter blows and will likely be gone. There was talk that they would release him mid-season. What a huge 1st round bust. Smith is an average LB on a crappy D. Peterson is coming off a huge injury and will likely be gone. Is this team really going to pay him Ray Lewis money after that injury? ####### agent passed on a nice contract and got the franchise tag. Well, we know what happened next. 7 out!This team has the WORST talent in the NFL and their salary cap situation sucks. I feel sorry for Nolan. He will be gone in 2 years after they go 3-13 and 5-11. Lucky for them that the NFC West blows. Maybe they can sneak in at 5-11.Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D...
Why would you assume that Nolan will run the Ravens offense?The 49ers will be lucky if they are able to run his defense in a few years after they address the Line but one can't assume Nolan will run that offense. If you are going to assume that you might want to look at all the other stops Nolan has made along the way and see what other offenses he has at his disposal.TomI love this move for Kevan Barlow. He has the size and speed to be like Jamal Lewis in the new coach's system.
Answer me this, at which other stop has Nolan been head coach?Nolaon will want his defensive system, and he'll hire a coordinator that can compliment his defense. That means most recently in baltimore a ball-control offense that minimizes turnovers. Not rocket science here guys.Why would you assume that Nolan will run the Ravens offense?The 49ers will be lucky if they are able to run his defense in a few years after they address the Line but one can't assume Nolan will run that offense. If you are going to assume that you might want to look at all the other stops Nolan has made along the way and see what other offenses he has at his disposal.TomI love this move for Kevan Barlow. He has the size and speed to be like Jamal Lewis in the new coach's system.
I've referenced Mike Nolan as a coaching candidate in any number of threads, including the Coaching Changes Master Thread pinned at the top, and the thread discussing the Cleveland Browns opening. Search Results: Mike Nolan (posted by Jason Wood in the last 365 days)SurprisingWoodrow assured me Nolan was no where near a valid HC candidate this offseason.
SyrusPretty big assumptions you are making my friendTom "the rocket scientist"Answer me this, at which other stop has Nolan been head coach?Nolaon will want his defensive system, and he'll hire a coordinator that can compliment his defense. That means most recently in baltimore a ball-control offense that minimizes turnovers. Not rocket science here guys.Why would you assume that Nolan will run the Ravens offense?The 49ers will be lucky if they are able to run his defense in a few years after they address the Line but one can't assume Nolan will run that offense. If you are going to assume that you might want to look at all the other stops Nolan has made along the way and see what other offenses he has at his disposal.TomI love this move for Kevan Barlow. He has the size and speed to be like Jamal Lewis in the new coach's system.
Well, gee, Nolan did coach the WRs for Baltimore in 2001, he might have learned not to ever trust a WR. Personally, I like what this does for Eric Johnson more.SyrusPretty big assumptions you are making my friendTom "the rocket scientist"Answer me this, at which other stop has Nolan been head coach?Nolaon will want his defensive system, and he'll hire a coordinator that can compliment his defense. That means most recently in baltimore a ball-control offense that minimizes turnovers. Not rocket science here guys.Why would you assume that Nolan will run the Ravens offense?The 49ers will be lucky if they are able to run his defense in a few years after they address the Line but one can't assume Nolan will run that offense. If you are going to assume that you might want to look at all the other stops Nolan has made along the way and see what other offenses he has at his disposal.TomI love this move for Kevan Barlow. He has the size and speed to be like Jamal Lewis in the new coach's system.
Christ calm down. A great signing would have been Mike Holmgren. Nolan may very well turn out to be a good signing. A lot of candidates ended up staying in place or taking over other positions so perhaps you are right.On what basis do you have to say it's not a great signing? Please enlighten us.What would have been a "great" signing then?I wouldn't call the Ravens a sinking ship but I would agree this is not a great signing by the Niners.Nolan just abandoned a sinking ship while he could. This will not be a good hiring for the 49ers.
Yep, it's guaranteed that Nolan will use a ball control oriented approach because that's the kind of program he comes from. Just like Billick brought his high flying offensive philosophy to the Ravens when he took over.........Nolaon will want his defensive system, and he'll hire a coordinator that can compliment his defense. That means most recently in baltimore a ball-control offense that minimizes turnovers. Not rocket science here guys.
Nothing is guaranteed, but I'd sure be using this line of logic when trying to trade Barlow to someone who buys into it.Yep, it's guaranteed that Nolan will use a ball control oriented approach because that's the kind of program he comes from. Just like Billick brought his high flying offensive philosophy to the Ravens when he took over.........Nolaon will want his defensive system, and he'll hire a coordinator that can compliment his defense. That means most recently in baltimore a ball-control offense that minimizes turnovers. Not rocket science here guys.
I agreee Holmgren would've been a great signing by the 49ers. For the Seahawks.Christ calm down. A great signing would have been Mike Holmgren. Nolan may very well turn out to be a good signing. A lot of candidates ended up staying in place or taking over other positions so perhaps you are right.On what basis do you have to say it's not a great signing? Please enlighten us.What would have been a "great" signing then?I wouldn't call the Ravens a sinking ship but I would agree this is not a great signing by the Niners.Nolan just abandoned a sinking ship while he could. This will not be a good hiring for the 49ers.
I don't know... I think the thing that should be taken from what Baltimore has achieved is to not worry about building your offense or building your defense up as your primary unit, but instead to just take the absolute best players available at each of your picks in the draft, and not worry about exactly what you're talking about.That's been Baltimore's strategy, and it's the big reason for their success. Almost a third of their starting players are arguably in the top 3-5 at their position in the entire NFL. They got that way by taking the best player regardless of it being a need, not by trying to build up the defense. It just so happens that many of them did happen to be defensive players.Interesting choice.
Obviously they need personel on both sides of the ball and I'm sure he'll address that. However, it seems to me that if he takes a lot of what he learned from Baltimore, he'll do everything he can to get the D to be a dominant unit and then try and pound the ball with Barlow (a la Jamal). Contrast that with Erickson's supposed passing attack and things could look different in the Bay very soon.
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My argument is that SF has crap for talent. Equating SF to SD of last year is just way off base. SD was in a vastly different situation at the beginning of last year both in talent and salary cap. Last time I checked LT was the best RB in the league (Barlow anyone?) and is a huge difference maker. Also Gates had turned it on the prior season and was looking to bust out (and boy did he). As for the defense, Donnie Edwards is one of the most underrated players in the NFLand a top 3 LB (Bullock, Lewis). There is no way this team goes 8-8 next year. Over under in wins will be 3 or 3.5. Mark it down-Now for York the dumb###. Hiring Nolan is the cheapest solution to his problem. A premium coach demands $5 plus million. Nolan ain't making anywhere near that. Now, Nolan may be a solid hire but it is not because York is opening his checkbook.Other than Ladainian Tomlinson and Donnie Edwards, the Chargers had nothing at this time last year. Things change fast in the NFL. Under good direction a club can improve fast, and apparently that is what YOrk is after this time ad is willing to open up his checkbook.
...good point. Considering that, I'd say that he has to be postively depressed about the fact that he has the #1 pick in a draft with no #1 pick.ColinI don't know... I think the thing that should be taken from what Baltimore has achieved is to not worry about building your offense or building your defense up as your primary unit, but instead to just take the absolute best players available at each of your picks in the draft, and not worry about exactly what you're talking about.That's been Baltimore's strategy, and it's the big reason for their success. Almost a third of their starting players are arguably in the top 3-5 at their position in the entire NFL. They got that way by taking the best player regardless of it being a need, not by trying to build up the defense. It just so happens that many of them did happen to be defensive players.Interesting choice.
Obviously they need personel on both sides of the ball and I'm sure he'll address that. However, it seems to me that if he takes a lot of what he learned from Baltimore, he'll do everything he can to get the D to be a dominant unit and then try and pound the ball with Barlow (a la Jamal). Contrast that with Erickson's supposed passing attack and things could look different in the Bay very soon.
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Dude, why so much hate? p.s. The 49ers are $25M under the cap this offseason.....Uh, no-These types of myopic 9'ers fans are in for a tough 2 or 3 years. To begin with- Carter blows and will likely be gone. There was talk that they would release him mid-season. What a huge 1st round bust. Smith is an average LB on a crappy D. Peterson is coming off a huge injury and will likely be gone. Is this team really going to pay him Ray Lewis money after that injury? ####### agent passed on a nice contract and got the franchise tag. Well, we know what happened next. 7 out!This team has the WORST talent in the NFL and their salary cap situation sucks. I feel sorry for Nolan. He will be gone in 2 years after they go 3-13 and 5-11. Lucky for them that the NFC West blows. Maybe they can sneak in at 5-11.Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D...
Source???I don't think this is right-The 49ers are $25M under the cap this offseason
I don't know what they are under the cap for next year, but...I believe the number I saw for their dead cap money was $28.5 million, which they'll be able to spend next year as it will be cleared now. So $25 million is easily a realistic number. Whether it will move up or down from the $28+ mil is hard to say... some players will have higher cap numbers next year, while others will have contracts that are completely up and will have to be resigned or will be gone. No clue which way that number will swing, but I think it's safe to say the 49ers have a LOT of cap room.Source???I don't think this is right-The 49ers are $25M under the cap this offseason
The 49ers figure to be approximately $18 million under the projected salary cap heading into next year. They currently have about $66 million wrapped up in 2005 contracts, and the cap is expected to be somewhere around $84 million. The 49ers' salary-cap figure for next year does not include scheduled free agents such as Cedrick Wilson, Eric Heitmann and Kyle Kosier, nor does linebacker Julian Peterson's projected franchise figure of at least $7.3 million factor into the equation. But it does include an exaggerated $5 million price tag on cornerback Jimmy Williams, who will return to the 49ers only at a much lower salary.
Update: the NFL announced today that the cap will be between $85.5M and $86.5M. This means that SF will have $24M to $25M of cap space, as the $23M figure was based on a $84M salary cap.
BriWho knows how Nolan will respond to the challenges in SF, only time will tell. However, Niner fans will be getting a class act. I have heard his 20 minute show on a local radio station following Raven games. He has always tried to come up with schemes that maximize the talent that he is given. For instance, he stated that his preferrence for running a 4-3, but given the best 11 guys over the past 2 seasons, running the 3-4 was the only logical choice.Furthermore, the guy never runs from discussing 'bad calls' that he made as a D coordinator and always gives credit to the players. He is very old school in that regard.I was always impressed with him as a person, and about the only valid criticism of him as a coach is that it seemed like he didn't always make great half time adjustments.He's an interesting fellow having played both cooridinator roles before becoming a head coach. Can't recall the last guy to do that.That D loved Jim Mora and is plenty young and talented. The right guy(and hopefully it's Nolan) could easily make a difference in San Fran. They are an excitable bunch.Best thing about Nolan is that he tinkers with what doesn't work and knows to leave well enough alone. Who's the GM?Any hints/thoughts in local papers?I can't think of a team he ever coached for that had an excellent passing game or top quality WRs. That's a 49er staple for a long time, should be interesting.
I think the biggest problems are that Denise DeBartolo York is trying to pay for the intrafamily transfer of the team out of the team's revenue, and she appointed her husband, who is a novice at football, to run the team. The best hope would be that they sell to someone like Larry Ellison, who has expressed an interest, but they have said no way. I suspect that despite their claiming otherwise, they are taking a lot of money out of the franchise.Thanks for the article pettifogger. That really breaks down the York ownership era in a nutshell. Anytime an organization is compared to AZ it is trouble. As a frustrated 9'er fan, I can only hope for new ownership.
My 2005 predictions-3-13: Close. 4-14. Did not expect them to sweep the Rams.Uh, no-These types of myopic 9'ers fans are in for a tough 2 or 3 years. To begin with- Carter blows and will likely be gone. There was talk that they would release him mid-season. What a huge 1st round bust. Smith is an average LB on a crappy D. Peterson is coming off a huge injury and will likely be gone. Is this team really going to pay him Ray Lewis money after that injury? ####### agent passed on a nice contract and got the franchise tag. Well, we know what happened next. 7 out!Obviously he has some good players, Smith, Parrish, Carter, Peterson to name a few on D...
This team has the WORST talent in the NFL and their salary cap situation sucks. I feel sorry for Nolan. He will be gone in 2 years after they go 3-13 and 5-11. Lucky for them that the NFC West blows. Maybe they can sneak in at 5-11.
Peterson thought he was in the same league as Ray Lewis (in his prime) and wanted a contract to reflect that inflated value. He is certainly not a top 10 LB and should not be paid like one. The 9'ers will not be investing $40 million on this guy. No way. He will be gone next year.why don't you like Peterson?
I'd give him a C as the CoachLike you said, not much to work with but at least he swept the Rams and the team did not quit on himWhat's the grade on Nolan?
I ripped him a bit last year to say the least...
I do realize he had little to work with.