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This is a very good hire for San Fran. Norv will get this team running and take the pressure off of Smith. Great sleeper potential now more than ever for Barlow or Gore. Whoever gets that job could be tough. Turner has a way making descent running games top ten fantasy running games.
Right. Nolan was DC in Washington from 1997-1999 when Turner was HC.
I think you have actually made a contribution to this thread *if* you can answer the following question:What non-retread coaches (and I don't even care about race here) would you have suggested get shots at these jobs? Answer remembering that their current teams don't have to give position assistants permission to interview for coordinator positions.
Caldwell in INDYLofton in SD has had his name bounced around the last couple of weeks.
My thanks to you for the list. I am honestly not bugged by the hiring of Norv in this position because I think he is worthy of the shot based on what he has done as an OC (a position he has been successful at), but I just know somebody we all object to is going to get a retread shot. It's nice having a starting point for a list, and you have given us that.I totally agree about the officials as well. Make them full time employees, and train the crap out of them. Send them to boot camp every summer during training camp. You'll lose a number of good guys this way, so I'm sure you can't do this all at once. Still, any new officials should be full time hires. As part timers retire, bring in full timers to replace them.
Come on. Are you serious? Why can't we get some more white rb's in the game today and maybe a couple of corners. While we're at it why not get a couple of guards in the NBA. I don't see the NFL making teams have to draft a white rb or a white corner. I'm not coming down on you MCJC4 I just hear this compliant all the time and it has no legs to stand on. Not wanting to HIJACK but just had to day something.
White guards??? C'mon. You never heard of White Chocolate? Sheesh
What does drafting the best player avaliable to PLAY, and the rehiring of millionare friends over and over again? I am pretty sure living here in AZ that if the Suns cut Steve Nash he would find a spot on someones bench in the NBA. These same coaches keep getting big paying jobs after repeat failures. Now their continued failures have kept them around long enough for their young asst's to give them jobs. Lucky them.Forget color for a moment, I would just like to see some fresh faces and new ideas get the OC and DC positions. At some point someone will realize the league has figured out Norv Turners offensive tendencies. Hell, I would venture to believe with his results that last several years they figured it out awhile ago.
good posting..I don't think Haslett has a clue either..he is lousy.so is Mornhiweg, Sean Payton, Mike Nolan, Gunther Cunningham, Mike Sherman, Mularkey, Mora Jr., et al...but I don't remember Ray Rhodes or Art Shell or Herm Edwards setting the world on fire as head coaches either, and for that matter, I don't recall Tony Dungy every winning a championship game, or many playoff games at all, as he is 4-7 lifetime in the postseason..great regular season coach, poor postseason coach, just like Shottenheimer. Let me ask you, how does Herm Edwards get a $12 mil deal to be HC in KC?!?! he has a 38-41 lifetime HC record..so just HOW did he get that job?!?!? it goes both ways..Rhodes is a re-tread DC, as is Ted Cotrell..same with Dave Wannstedt, who thankfully is coaching in college, not in the NFL any more...Cleveland will learn in a year or two, that they've hired the best coach in the NFL, Romeo Crennel..he is fantastic! and, they'll also realize that they have one of the best Oc's in the game, Maurice Carthon..also, what about Pepper Johnson, he'll get a shot someday soon, as will Mike Singletary, and Ron Rivera has done wonders with the Bears Defense.
His RB's stats as an OC and Head CoachDAL 91: 1500+ and 13 total TDs
You could be right, you could be wrong. But what about Romeo Crennel leads you to believe he's a better hire than any of the other coaches who got jobs in the last two or three years?To play Devil's Advocate:
Jamal Lewis might be available
I would guess that the Barlow days are over in Frisco. Potential only goes so far and his hasrun out in my opinion. He is the west coast version of Micheal Pittman, appears to have all the tools to carry the load but never gets it done. If the price is right why not take a flyer on an A. Green or Onterio Smith type guy? Smith has obvious issues and Green maybe a little past his prime,but potential upside for either player should out way the cap cost for either one. Just a thought..
Same type of guy that screams that he wants perks based upon the color of skin, then complains when it happens (but not in his favor). Ignorant on so many levels.Quit trying to drive a stake between colors (promoting racism)... promote the melting pot theory of America.PS - Norv Turner has proven multiple times to do well, not fail, with working effectively with offensive lines and running backs. You know, a problem that the team that just hired him has. Seems like a common sense move to me.
Oh, come on. Jordan was always a stud -- it had nothing to do with Norv.
I would be surprised if Nolan brings in a free agent RB of ANY significant cost, with so many other holes needing to be filled. My money would be on Gore getting the shot, and Barlow being traded away to someone desperate enough for RB help to part with a 2nd day draft pick for him.
IMHO, the 49ers leading rusher in 2006 isn't currently on the roster.
We shall see, but I think Barlow = gone, and my confidence in Gore certainly doesn't supercede my belief that the 49ers can and will draft at least one rookie who has as good a shot at being the team's top runner.
Same old same old. Instead of recycling these black guys why not bring in a Alstott or even a Travis Jervey? Hey, you never now if they don't get a chance.
just having some fun with youSame old same old. Instead of recycling these black guys why not bring in a Alstott or even a Travis Jervey? Hey, you never now if they don't get a chance.
Got it, thanks. Never noticed I did that before.
When the NFL instituted its "must interview a black candidate" policy, there were two black head coaches. Now there are six--and three of those are the top three vote-getters for Coach of the Year. Would that have been true if not for the threat of lawsuit and the hiring policy change? Tough to say, of course, but societies don't tend to change themselves.Equality will have been reached not when a top black coach gets hired instead of a top white coach, but when a failed black chump gets as many chances as a failed white chump.
Brian Billick
Billick is one of only seven active coaches to have won a SB. (Parcells, Gibbs, Shanahan, Holmgren, Belichick, Gruden)
I don't think you can judge Norv fairly by judging his time in Miami. DW in his wisdom overrode Norv's calls and hamstrung him with Jay Fiedler, perhaps one of the worst QB matches for that offense ever. I will say that I would have expected Norv to run an offense that would actually work given those constraints or to not remain in that job, but that apparently isn't Norv. If he has talent that matches up with his offense and an opportunity to call the plays he wants to play (which includes him forgetting the run from time to time), his offense looks pretty good. Look at his time in Washington as HC. He was a failure of an HC there, but he got a fair chance to at least implement his offense.
I don't think I got to see a single Raiders game this year (even the one with my beloved Dolphins), so I have no idea what went wrong there. It's beyond apparent that Fiedler isn't the type of QB who is cut out for Norv's offense, though. Clearly, the likes of Trent Green and Brad Johnson work pretty well as QB's in Norv's system. Ironically, so did Gus Frerotte, the Dolphins QB I can't wait to be sacked.
He had one very good year in Washington, that's it.What was the excuse for what happenned last year?
