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Not so good 2009, but Great 2010? (1 Viewer)

No Way Jose

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Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....

Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.

Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian Foster

B. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starter

TJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.

Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.

Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.

C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.

Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it fun

Anyone you would like to add?

 
Megatron will be too highly rated by next year to be a value pick. I do think highly of Matt Ryan.

I'd go with Chaz Schilens, provided he doesn't get hurt in preseason again.

Keep a close eye on where Caddilac goes. If he leaves the Bucs and goes somewhere he can be the starter he could be very impressive in a decent offense. Great burst and power.

 
I'm hoping like hell that 2009 was a fluke for Eddie Royal, he looked so darn good (and I don't just think it was Cutler, he really looked like a good NFL WR) in 2008. Even if he comes back to a mix of the two years, it'd be a big leap in the right direction.

 
No Way Jose said:
Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian FosterB. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starterTJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it funAnyone you would like to add?
Cooley and Davis will cancel each other out a bit unless Cooley gets dealt. I don't think Ryan and Calvin come at much of a discount. I hope I'm in your league if you target Slaton, Housh, Jacobs, and especially Roy. I'm sure there are bargain players but I don't think you've hit on them. Slugs are slugs for a reason ... and you lost me with Housh and Roy.
 
Couple of TEs:

Greg Olsen - many expected for him to make that huge leap, and while he lacked consistency, he did make some strides. The inconsistent offense and poor play by Cutler didn't help matters, but I think having had the year to build chemistry will pay off even more next year.

John Carlson - asked to block a ton more with the poor OL. Providing they beef up the OL, I think he becomes a bigger part of the passing game - already a force in the red zone. Housh doesn't scare anyone, Branch probably on the way out, and Burleson (even if he returns) is above average at best.

 
Cooley and Davis will cancel each other out a bit unless Cooley gets dealt.
You honestly think Davis impacts Cooley much? Just seems like a case where a player filled a position fairly well while the starter was out but won't impact the starter. I suppose if I thought more of the Skins WRs I'd see where Cooley might not be as much of a stud but as it stands, he's still the best receiver they have.
 
No Way Jose said:
Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian FosterB. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starterTJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it funAnyone you would like to add?
I think you are wrong on Jacobs and Slaton. Jacobs is a pound fatter, a step slower, and falling off the cliff. Bradshaw was the better back this year and will be the better back next year. I would put Bradshaw on this list before Jacobs.Slaton could reinvent himself. You are betting more on his personality than his talent - will he devote himself to working out like DeAngelo did before 2008? With Kubiak back, chances are he will fall into a 3rd down back role and split carries with any warm body they can find.I think you are underestimating the value on Calvin and Ryan. Calvin is still almost untouchable. Ryan will still be valued as a QB1.
 
The number 2 WR in Dallas (no not Witten) will be an interesting postion to watch. Crayton may get another shot or an outside opportunity for Ogletree. I don't think Hurd has starting talent right now.

I also agree with the Eddie Royal statement above. He is a special player that had a down year.

Kevin Walter had a down year but Houston likes to sling the ball. Would like to see him bounce back.

I am going watch for Steve Breaston with all the uncertainty around the Arizona WR situation. Not so much that he had a bad year but he produced well for a 3rd WR in 2009 but could be great in 2010.

 
No Way Jose said:
Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....

Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.

Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian Foster

B. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starter

TJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.

Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.

Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.

C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.

Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it fun

Anyone you would like to add?
Cooley and Davis will cancel each other out a bit unless Cooley gets dealt. I don't think Ryan and Calvin come at much of a discount. I hope I'm in your league if you target Slaton, Housh, Jacobs, and especially Roy. I'm sure there are bargain players but I don't think you've hit on them. Slugs are slugs for a reason ... and you lost me with Housh and Roy.
Feel free to add names instead of just criticizing mine...kthanksbai :thumbup: :bow:

 
In no order:

RBs:

Knowshon Moreno, RB, DEN

Pierre Thomas, RB, NOS

Donald Brown, RB, IND

Derrick Ward, RB, TB

WRs:

Johnny Knox, WR, CHI

Michael Crabtree, WR, SF

Hakeem Nicks, WR, NYG

Donnie Avery, WR, STL

Jarrett Dillard, WR, JAX

TEs:

Jared Cook, TE, TEN

Chase Coffman, TE, CIN

Zach Miller, TE, JAX

Some of these guys won't come cheap (Crabtree, Nicks, etc.), but i think it's the cheapest you will ever be able to get them.

Some of these guys you can prob leave on your waiver wire til the season begins, and then once they show anything at all you can pounce on them then.

 
No Way Jose said:
Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....

Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.

Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian Foster

B. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starter

TJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.

Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.

Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.

C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.

Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it fun

Anyone you would like to add?
I think you are wrong on Jacobs and Slaton. Jacobs is a pound fatter, a step slower, and falling off the cliff. Bradshaw was the better back this year and will be the better back next year. I would put Bradshaw on this list before Jacobs.

Slaton could reinvent himself. You are betting more on his personality than his talent - will he devote himself to working out like DeAngelo did before 2008? With Kubiak back, chances are he will fall into a 3rd down back role and split carries with any warm body they can find.

I think you are underestimating the value on Calvin and Ryan. Calvin is still almost untouchable. Ryan will still be valued as a QB1.
You could be right, I'm not talking about trading anyone that particularly good for these guys. However, many backs get hurt and have bad years. Slaton was solid when he was healthy. Bradshaw is ok, but he gets hurt on every run. I just think its easy to say people suck after one bad year, but thats not always the case. (Deangelo Williams)

Ryan is gettable btw, cause I got him in a dynasty league.

 
In no order:

RBs:

Knowshon Moreno, RB, DEN

Pierre Thomas, RB, NOS

Donald Brown, RB, IND

Derrick Ward, RB, TB

WRs:

Johnny Knox, WR, CHI

Michael Crabtree, WR, SF

Hakeem Nicks, WR, NYG

Donnie Avery, WR, STL

Jarrett Dillard, WR, JAX

TEs:

Jared Cook, TE, TEN

Chase Coffman, TE, CIN

Zach Miller, TE, JAX

Some of these guys won't come cheap (Crabtree, Nicks, etc.), but i think it's the cheapest you will ever be able to get them.

Some of these guys you can prob leave on your waiver wire til the season begins, and then once they show anything at all you can pounce on them then.
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No Way Jose said:
Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian FosterB. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starterTJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it funAnyone you would like to add?
How about Dwayne Bowe? Not sure what the status is on Chambers and how another camp will help the chemistry between Cassle and Bowe. Any thoughts on DB playing for another team in '10?
 
Kenny Britt

Gage and Washington are mediocre at best. Britt has shown some skills this year and will have the opportunity.

The main drawback is that the Titans will almost certainly, for obvious reasons, remain a run-first offense that could limit receiving opportunities.

 
Kenny BrittGage and Washington are mediocre at best. Britt has shown some skills this year and will have the opportunity.The main drawback is that the Titans will almost certainly, for obvious reasons, remain a run-first offense that could limit receiving opportunities.
I doubt that Britt owners would part with him that cheap for the reasons you state. Dynasty owners drafted him looking at '10 and beyond. But I agree he's an emerging talent.
 
I'll give 2 per position...

QB:

Vince Young-He didn't have a down year, but he's a guy who I think can be gotten very cheaply in dynasty leagues, and will be undervalued in redrafts. The Titans are a lot closer than commonly believed to having a top offense. I also think people underestimate guys who played well, but didn't begin the season as the starter and the work they missed in the offseason that they will get the following year. Along those same lines I present...

Alex Smith-I think a full offseason as a a starter to work with Davis and Crabtree will work wonders for the former #1 pick. I think he'll be a top-15 QB and its not unreasonable at all he'll be a top-10 guy. Kind of a poor man's Rivers.

RB:

Pierre Thomas-Probably my favorite value player. He disappointed a bit this year, but it was mostly due to a logjam at the position and because the Saints were almost too good at the beginning of the year. Thomas was the #1 RB in the NFL in DVOA and his problems stemmed merely from a lack of touches and rumor has it that Bush could be on the way out and Bell is a FA. I think the only thing preventing Thomas from being a top-10 RB is his own durability, if he gets that worked out, he'll be a solid RB1.

Donald Brown-Does anyone else see how similar Addai/Brown is to Parker/Mendenhall a year ago? I think brown will have that job before 2010 is up and barring Addai suffering a major injury in the playoffs, Brown likely isn't going to be considered to be much more than a flier or handcuff pick. I think he'll be a top-20 guy next year at the very least, and I don't think top-10 is out of the question at all, especially since Addai has a pretty spotty track record when it comes to staying healthy.

WR:

Percy Harvin-He wasn't a disappointment by normal standards, but there were many who thought he'd have a Chris Johnson-like impact. Well I think those people weren't really wrong, they were just a year early. I think Harvin will be a solid WR2 next year and could flirt with top-10 status.

Josh Morgan-There was a lot of hype around him this past offseason and he never really panned out, even before Crabtree entered the fold. I really like the direction the 49ers are taking and I think they will be right up there with the best offenses(and teams in general) in the NFL next year. There is room for Crabtree-Davis and Morgan to all co-exist. I see Morgan as a good WR3 would could be available at the very end of drafts next year.

TE:

Jared Cook-Crazy talent and athleticism, he just didn't get enough of a shot this year. Perhaps he never fully recovered from his injury late in the preseason. Scaife may or may not be brought back and Young likes to look for the TE. Could be the Jermichael Finley of 2010.

Zach Miller-No, not that one. The Jaguar. Jacksonville needs someone to step up beside Mike Sims-Walker and I don't see any WR that'll do it. So I submit Miller, he's already a better receiver than Lewis and could take that job this offseason. I could see him being the Steve Smith(NY) of Zach Miller's.

 
In no order:RBs:Knowshon Moreno, RB, DENPierre Thomas, RB, NOSDonald Brown, RB, INDDerrick Ward, RB, TBWRs:Johnny Knox, WR, CHIMichael Crabtree, WR, SFHakeem Nicks, WR, NYGDonnie Avery, WR, STLJarrett Dillard, WR, JAXTEs:Jared Cook, TE, TENChase Coffman, TE, CINZach Miller, TE, JAXSome of these guys won't come cheap (Crabtree, Nicks, etc.), but i think it's the cheapest you will ever be able to get them.Some of these guys you can prob leave on your waiver wire til the season begins, and then once they show anything at all you can pounce on them then.
:) I agree with most of those
 
The number 2 WR in Dallas (no not Witten) will be an interesting postion to watch. Crayton may get another shot or an outside opportunity for Ogletree. I don't think Hurd has starting talent right now.

I also agree with the Eddie Royal statement above. He is a special player that had a down year.

Kevin Walter had a down year but Houston likes to sling the ball. Would like to see him bounce back.

I am going watch for Steve Breaston with all the uncertainty around the Arizona WR situation. Not so much that he had a bad year but he produced well for a 3rd WR in 2009 but could be great in 2010.
The Arizona receiver to get is Early Doucet......not Breaston.......will come cheaper now and be better soon
 
The number 2 WR in Dallas (no not Witten) will be an interesting postion to watch. Crayton may get another shot or an outside opportunity for Ogletree. I don't think Hurd has starting talent right now.

I also agree with the Eddie Royal statement above. He is a special player that had a down year.

Kevin Walter had a down year but Houston likes to sling the ball. Would like to see him bounce back.

I am going watch for Steve Breaston with all the uncertainty around the Arizona WR situation. Not so much that he had a bad year but he produced well for a 3rd WR in 2009 but could be great in 2010.
The Arizona receiver to get is Early Doucet......not Breaston.......will come cheaper now and be better soon
I hope they find room for him, my only fear is that Leinart will be throwing him the ball.
 
QBS:

E.Manning

J.Flacco

C.Palmer

M.Ryan

RBS:

p.thomas

a.bradshaw

s.slaton

f.jones

l.white

TE:

Pettigrew

 
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Couple more....

WR...Greg Jennings.....not a bad year, but I expected a little more from him.

WR...S. Moss............new regime in Washington, could be soild ppr guy

RB....Len Dale White.......Only if he signs elsewhere

RB....Ronnie Brown.........Some people have short memories and this guy is good when healthy(could be with different team)

TE....*Cornelius Ingram* remember this guy? if he ever gets healthy and the way Mcnabb spreads the ball, should be on most WW

TE....Witten....Did not have a Wittenesqe season even though it was still pretty good. I think his numbers will be better next year.

QB....Matt Moore....I would get on this train early

QB....Cassel......This team is improving and he will have a better season next year

 
QB: Vince Young (might be tough but you did ask about the whole year), Matt Cassel (I see KC improving next year)

RB: MarShawn Lynch (he does have talent), Reggie Bush (as does he, just not typical RB talent)

WR: Justin Gage (WR3 anyway), Dwayne Bowe (suspension, see Cassel)

TE: Chris Cooley (mostly due to injury), Jason Witten (2 TDs on the year while his QB threw 26?)

 
Matt Forte- reports are that he sprained his mcl in week 3, while battling his hammy for most of the year. Also, did u see that oline? He could be a great value.
There's going to be lots of surprised folks next season. This guy is primed for a big comeback. He's simply a talented RB (with no competition) in what should be a vastly improved offense. As a comparison, I believe it's a virtual lock Forte will outperform Steven Jackson in PPR leagues in 2010 (as things stand now). That could change if the Rams get a capable QB, but Jackson will be overdrafted unless that happens.
 
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Now that the Fantasy season is over and trading has been reinstated, who are you going after in your Dynasty leagues? I like to try to look for guys that maybe had a mediocre season, but have proven in the past that they are beaststuds. Hopefully you can find an owner that is just fed up with them. A few that I have been thinking about.....Calvin Johnson......Will always be a beast, maybe just needs a year to get comfortable with Stafford and new staff.Steve Slaton......I'm not ready to give this job to Arian FosterB. Jacobs..........This guy is too big and strong not to be a starterTJ Housh..........Just throw him the ball, or get someone to throw him the ball.Roy Williams.......I know this sounds crazy, he just needed a year(slow learner) very talented.Matt Ryan..........Off and on injuries this year, I think he can be a top 5 QB next year.C. Cooley...........was injured, should bounce back.Of course by doing this, it could backfire. But thats what makes it funAnyone you would like to add?
How about Dwayne Bowe? Not sure what the status is on Chambers and how another camp will help the chemistry between Cassle and Bowe. Any thoughts on DB playing for another team in '10?
I said it in the Bowe thread but since he keeps coming up I'll say it again: I don't trust this guy. He looks like a guy on Roids, was suspended for using a masking agent to hide roids, and guys who stop using Roids usually suffer a significant decline in production IMO. He reminds me of David Boston or Javon Walker.
 
Jeremy Maclin seems to be flying under the radar. I expect him to be drafted behind Crabtree and Harvin even though he is in a better situation.

 

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