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If you read the topic, it says respect HERE, on these boards. As quickly as I post the topic, someone comes in here and makes excuses for the Colts or clots as you put it and their wins. they have beaten everyone on their schedule and soundly!I am looking for respect for them on THESE boards!
I thought you wanted a real answer...so I gave mine. It would be an "excuse" if I was just coming up with it now...but clearly, I'm not.They're a good team...they're the best team in the NFL. Are they as good as the hype? Not until they win a big game away from Indy, IMO...which right now means win a Super Bowl.
Because I respect the football knowledge of most of the posters on this board, is why. It is one thing to hate on a team or be a homer for your team, but it is nice to see some love for good football!If you read the topic, it says respect HERE, on these boards. As quickly as I post the topic, someone comes in here and makes excuses for the Colts or clots as you put it and their wins. they have beaten everyone on their schedule and soundly!
At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
but the Colts are 11-0 
Yes, yes they are. They're the best team in the NFL. (And this is coming from a Broncos homer...the only team with a shot at claiming that.) I'm not disputing that. I don't think anyone else is either.But, they're being hailed as so much more than that right now...and I don't think that's right. They haven't proven *that* much.Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
Ahha, at Seattle, which is currently 9-2 is not considered a tough game?Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
I don't anticipate Seattle using their starters for that game. I think it'll be meaningless at that point.But yes, if both teams still have something to play for at that point, then yes, that counts. Good defense, good team...we agree there.Ahha, at Seattle, which is currently 9-2 is not considered a tough game?Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
It could be but it likely won't because one if not both teams should be set for the playoffs with a win improving nothing. I can't name a team I consider great that never even went to a Super Bowl. They are playing very well right now, better than anyone else. But there is football left to be played and the clots have fallen short of expectations a few times before.Ahha, at Seattle, which is currently 9-2 is not considered a tough game?Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
I'm sorry but any point(s) you try making lose a lot of credibility when you keep calling them the clots. You may like or dislike a team but when you make little bashes like that in an otherwise objective post it makes you come across as nothing more than a biased hater.It could be but it likely won't because one if not both teams should be set for the playoffs with a win improving nothing. I can't name a team I consider great that never even went to a Super Bowl. They are playing very well right now, better than anyone else. But there is football left to be played and the clots have fallen short of expectations a few times before.Ahha, at Seattle, which is currently 9-2 is not considered a tough game?Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
But I am a biased hater.I'm sorry but any point(s) you try making lose a lot of credibility when you keep calling them the clots. You may like or dislike a team but when you make little bashes like that in an otherwise objective post it makes you come across as nothing more than a biased hater.It could be but it likely won't because one if not both teams should be set for the playoffs with a win improving nothing. I can't name a team I consider great that never even went to a Super Bowl. They are playing very well right now, better than anyone else. But there is football left to be played and the clots have fallen short of expectations a few times before.Ahha, at Seattle, which is currently 9-2 is not considered a tough game?Baltimore and NE are awful this year. Big games come against good teams. Cincy and KC don't have tough defenses, which have been the Colts' problem.And yes, I qualify it that way, since outside the JAX game, they don't have a tough game away from Indy left on the schedule. And Jacksonville lost its best offensive player.At KC last year? At NE this year? At Cincy this year? At Baltimore in week 1 this year?I see your point about the Colts not able to win a big game on the road...
But, since you clearly don't want a serious discussion, I'll step aside.
And, now you qualify it that the only way they get your respect is to win the Superbowl....geesh!
Take or leave my point as you will.
And if they run the table and win the Super Bowl they'll be almost universally considered the best team ever. Heck, even a 15-1 or 14-2 regular season and a Super Bowl win puts they way up there. But it all comes down to the postseason which has been the problem in the past for the cl... team from indy. A lot of people will be slow to jump on the bandwagon because the team has under-performed in the post season.They are playing awesome football right now. But the question originally was related to them not getting respect. I think they are getting about as much respect as is possible for a team in week 12 that has never gone to the Super Bowl. And they deserve every bit of it.
Now that's an all around
.The Colts right now look like a team for the ages. Problem is, they looked unstoppable last year as well. They no longer get unlimited respect just for LOOKING unstoppable-they can't actually get stopped this year. If they win the Super Bowl all but a few dopes will give them credit.
This typifies how this board works. When your team is on top, everybody wants to talk bad about your team. Now that the Colts are clearly the best team in football, they are being insulted here just like the Pats were for the past four years.CONGRATULATIONS Colts on being totally dominant this year.
I was making that exact same point, only in a different way.
Is this now Peyton's biggest win ever? 
No, they don't.The goal is to win the game at the end.
This has always been my argument.Hasn't changed since game 1 this year...I didn't care about the Patriots game, and said many times before last night's game that this would be a whole different ball of wax if it was in Pittsburgh.
Lets be realistic here. I'm a huge Steeler fan but location would not have seriously altered the outcome of that game. The Colts are head and shoulders above the Steelers and the rest of the league. If you couldn't see that from last night, you have blinders on. The team can only play who is on their schedule and the Colts keep winning convincingly. So if they end up winning the superbowl this year, will they earn respect? With homefield advantage throughout the playoffs, they won't have any "tough" road games. If this team goes 16-0 or even 15-1 and wins the superbowl, they have to be considered one of the best teams ever.
Anyone who thinks a 2nd round playoff winat Arrowhead over a 13-3 Chiefs team that was extremely widely predicted to make the Super Bowl, was not "winning a big game on the road"...Well... they are either displaying an extreme ignorance about football, or they are letting bias override their objectivity.
Head and shoulders? Yet to be seen. Are they the best team in football? If you read my earlier posts in this thread, I have confirmed that.
No, but once again, if you read more than just my one post in this thread...I've posted several times that Indy will get all the respect they ever wanted if they win the Super Bowl.
Not disputing that, either. You're taking my statement and twisting it until you make it look ridiculous. I never argued that.
Well, if you look into my argument on the previous page...that wasn't my entire argument. The argument was "on the road, against a good team with a good defense." Indy has typically struggled in *those* situations.The argument above got to the gist of my actual argument, but missed that point. I'm not ignorant to the importance of that win, as Peyton took the game into his own hands, there. He's a HOF quarterback, already. I never argued that wasn't a big game, either. If KC was a 13-3 team with a great defense instead of a great offense, I wouldn't even be talking still.
I won't be one of them.IF the Colts go on to win the SuperBowl, with Home Field throughout the Plyoffs and in the Dome for The SuperBowl the Naysayers will be out in full force saying...
"nice they won it, but come on, they won because it was in a Dome, I'd like to see them win outside before I believe in them"
I don't know, but I wouldn't have said that. I would've said that they lost a game they should've won. I think we've had enough discussions to where you know this isn't the case.You're lumping me in with a bunch of five-digiters who argue inane stuff all the time, and while justified normally, it's not fair in this circumstance. I've owned up *plenty* of times when I've been wrong about my predicitons/assumptions.
I tend to agree with that statement. Not a joke or fishing. Its a factor of the modern salary cap NFL. However, without a doubt they're the best team so far this season. I still have major doubts about their defense. They came out last night very jacked up. It was the best I've seen from them so far.
And with this argument, I raise the white flag.I just can't compete with this logic. Flawless.Last nite at the game I watched that defense play great and James run very hard
I love watching this team play 53 guys giving it all they got.
Go Colts
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LOL, most teams would struggle in those situations. Bottomline, the skeptics won't be satisfied this year since the Colts will have homefield throughout and won't have to face anyone on the road. All they can do is play who is on their schedule and most of the games, last night included haven't been close. The Colts are the best team in the league and are getting respect from all corners but as many have mentioned the regular is the regular season now they need to take the next step in the playoffs....
