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Now what is Michael Turner's "market value"? (1 Viewer)

Wilbur Wood

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Interested in Shark Pool opinion about where Michael Turner is racked and stacked amongst 2008 RBs in Redraft leagues now that we've seen both ends of the spectrum.

Week 1 shows that Atlanta has more offensive firepower and upside than 2007

Week 2 shows that they have rookie QB and may struggle on the road and when doing so the running game will "KC-like".

In one $$ league that I'm in I just saw that Turner was traded even up for Cris Chambers, which I think is somewhat of a "steal" for the guy getting Turner, but again I have too much of Week 1 burned into my brain, so maybe the deal wasn't so one-sided after all.

What do folks here think about Turner for the balance of the year? Top 10 RB?? I tend to rate him behind guys like Addai and Lynch but ahead of RBs like Matt Forte, McFadden, Chris Johnson and Edge.

 
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Week 3 they play the Chiefs, who gave up 300 yards rushing. Seems like another chance at raising that value.

 
Wilbur Wood said:
Interested in Shark Pool opinion about where Michael Turner is racked and stacked amongst 2008 RBs in Redraft leagues now that we've seen both ends of the spectrum.

Week 1 shows that Atlanta has more offensive firepower and upside than 2007

Week 2 shows that they have rookie QB and may struggle on the road and when doing so the running game will "KC-like".

In one $$ league that I'm in I just Turner traded even up for Cris Chambers, which I think is somewhat of a "steal" for the guy getting Turner, but again I have too much of Week 1 burned into my brain, so maybe the deal wasn't so one-sided after all.

What do folks here think about Turner for the balance of the year? Top 10 RB?? I tend to rate him behind guys like Addai and Lynch but ahead of RBs like Matt Forte, McFadden, Chris Johnson and Edge.
I think you got robbed.
 
Wilbur Wood said:
Interested in Shark Pool opinion about where Michael Turner is racked and stacked amongst 2008 RBs in Redraft leagues now that we've seen both ends of the spectrum.

Week 1 shows that Atlanta has more offensive firepower and upside than 2007

Week 2 shows that they have rookie QB and may struggle on the road and when doing so the running game will "KC-like".

In one $$ league that I'm in I just Turner traded even up for Cris Chambers, which I think is somewhat of a "steal" for the guy getting Turner, but again I have too much of Week 1 burned into my brain, so maybe the deal wasn't so one-sided after all.

What do folks here think about Turner for the balance of the year? Top 10 RB?? I tend to rate him behind guys like Addai and Lynch but ahead of RBs like Matt Forte, McFadden, Chris Johnson and Edge.
I think you got robbed.
he didn't make the trade, someone else did.
 
Shipped off Turner for McFadden and a 2nd round rookie pick next year in a dynasty league after week 1, looks to be a shark move so far =)

 
The fact of the matter is that the Falcons don't have a good offensive line. It's why I stayed away from him in drafts and am not among the people trying to deal for him now. He makes a fine plug-and-play guy for the right matchups, though...I could see him being a RB2 in total point production but not in week-to-week consistency.

 
He'll likely be up and down all year, as he's on a young team with a rookie QB and a questionable O-Line. He's a guy that I'm pretty high on long-term, but in a redraft league, I'd be looking to move him after he has another big week. His playoff schedule this year doesn't look good, with games against TB (who just shut him down this week) and Minnesota in weeks 15 and 16.

 
The fact of the matter is that the Falcons don't have a good offensive line. It's why I stayed away from him in drafts and am not among the people trying to deal for him now. He makes a fine plug-and-play guy for the right matchups, though...I could see him being a RB2 in total point production but not in week-to-week consistency.
:thumbdown:
 
Shipped off Turner for McFadden and a 2nd round rookie pick next year in a dynasty league after week 1, looks to be a shark move so far =)
While McFadden will face a real NFL defense for the first time of his career on Sunday, Turner gets his crack at the Chiefs.Not so fast.
 
Shipped off Turner for McFadden and a 2nd round rookie pick next year in a dynasty league after week 1, looks to be a shark move so far =)
While McFadden will face a real NFL defense for the first time of his career on Sunday, Turner gets his crack at the Chiefs.Not so fast.
Turner is good for 100 and a TD this week minimum IMO.
:violin: Turner is good for 150-2 (with upside) unless the Falcons decide to give Norwood some love inside the 20 (which I wouldn't mind as a Norwood owner).
 
The fact of the matter is that the Falcons don't have a good offensive line.
This is simply not true. Judging this years O'line off of last years results, is a mistake I see a lot of people making.Moving back into the 1st round to draft Baker, acquiring two good blocking TE's in Hartsock & Peele + already having a fine existing blocking TE in Milner, the O'line starters actually being on the field healthy this year (knock on wood I didn't just jinx them), ditching Petrino's disastorous offensive blocking scheme from last year & bringing back to elements of the zone blocking Alex Gibbs installed which propelled the Falcons to the NFL's #1 ranked rushing offense for 3 years in a row has greatly enhanced their effectiveness.

Now is the Falcons O'line in the studly status? No

But the Falcons O'line is certainly nowhere near as bad as last years injury depleted & ineptly offensively schemed unit.

I'd say this O'line is middle of the road overall & probably a lower top 10 run blocking O'line.

 
Any ankle concerns? Never thought id picture the Falcons being up big, but if KC is that bad will we see Norwood in the 2nd half?
Without a doubt.But don't worry about that affecting Turner's production. He'll get his before they turn to Norwood.

 
I just traded Matt Forte & Reggie Brown for Michael Turner & Chris Perry.

The other owner was higher on Forte than Turner, thus I was able to extract another starting RB out of the deal, albeit a very marginal one at this stage in Perry.

I think Forte is the safer pick, I think that Turner has more upside which is why I made the deal.

 
The fact is ATL just played the Tampa Bay D with a rookie QB which Kiffin feasts on.

Most RBs don't run that well vs a solid D...esp when they have a rookie QB behind them

If u want another example of this watch for the egg that Forte lays when they dare Orton to try and beat them with the pass.

 
Any ankle concerns? Never thought id picture the Falcons being up big, but if KC is that bad will we see Norwood in the 2nd half?
Without a doubt.But don't worry about that affecting Turner's production. He'll get his before they turn to Norwood.
Sure about that? I don't recall them sitting Turner against Detroit. Of course, he was knocking on a record, but still, I wouldn't automatically assume that.
 
Any ankle concerns? Never thought id picture the Falcons being up big, but if KC is that bad will we see Norwood in the 2nd half?
Without a doubt.But don't worry about that affecting Turner's production. He'll get his before they turn to Norwood.
Sure about that? I don't recall them sitting Turner against Detroit. Of course, he was knocking on a record, but still, I wouldn't automatically assume that.
True, The difference here is that Turner sprained his ankle against TB so that may give them reason to get Norwood touches.
 
Any ankle concerns? Never thought id picture the Falcons being up big, but if KC is that bad will we see Norwood in the 2nd half?
Without a doubt.But don't worry about that affecting Turner's production. He'll get his before they turn to Norwood.
Sure about that? I don't recall them sitting Turner against Detroit. Of course, he was knocking on a record, but still, I wouldn't automatically assume that.
True, The difference here is that Turner sprained his ankle against TB so that may give them reason to get Norwood touches.
I think the ankle is a non-issue, but I hope to find out if I'm wrong or right (cause that will mean we have a big lead).
 
Plus if he hadn't sprain that ankle there is a good chance they would have ran the ball from the 5 yard line instead of passing it.

 
Plus if he hadn't sprain that ankle there is a good chance they would have ran the ball from the 5 yard line instead of passing it.
Where have you heard that? Everything I've read indicates it was not even really known til after the game. Smith certainly didn't say anything about it.
 
Plus if he hadn't sprain that ankle there is a good chance they would have ran the ball from the 5 yard line instead of passing it.
Bump.Would like to know if there's a source for this, or speculation by the poster.ETA: Turner not on injury report.
 
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I think last week was very beneficial for the education of Matt Ryan, and the good news is he did not wilt under withering pressure. From everything I've seen, the players and coaching staff have excellent relationships, so I'm looking forward to this week's matchup, to follow the growth of this offense.

 
I think last week was very beneficial for the education of Matt Ryan, and the good news is he did not wilt under withering pressure. From everything I've seen, the players and coaching staff have excellent relationships, so I'm looking forward to this week's matchup, to follow the growth of this offense.
That's a very good observation.
 
He can't play the Lions every week.

My personal view is that he will be very up and down and is on a team that still is not very good. I think at season end barring injury he will settle in around RB#15 to RB#20 and will have a lot of good games and a lot of not so good games.

 
I think it will even out as the offense settles in and Matt progresses. My guess is that by week 6, most people will expect Turner's weekly floor to be 90 and a TD. Really, it almost depends more on the defense than the offense at this point. A lot of youth on that side of the ball.

 
He can't play the Lions every week.My personal view is that he will be very up and down and is on a team that still is not very good. I think at season end barring injury he will settle in around RB#15 to RB#20 and will have a lot of good games and a lot of not so good games.
true,but he gets the Chiefs this week.
 
Looked at the next couple of weeks and I forgot who but no favorable games coming up.

Especially with a rookie qb, and some ok/tough defenses coming up, I'm trying to unload him.

I already have AP, Barber, Chris Johnson and Turner. Turner WILL NOT see the starting line up for me at all as long as AP and Barber are healthy.

I'm trying to trade him for Calvin Johnson, but the Johnson owner says he's giving up too much for Turner.

So I'm not sure

 
I think it will even out as the offense settles in and Matt progresses. My guess is that by week 6, most people will expect Turner's weekly floor to be 90 and a TD. Really, it almost depends more on the defense than the offense at this point. A lot of youth on that side of the ball.
No RB in the league has a weekly floor of 90 and a TD. Anyone who expects that from Turner on a terrible team is foolish.
 
sterjs said:
I think it will even out as the offense settles in and Matt progresses. My guess is that by week 6, most people will expect Turner's weekly floor to be 90 and a TD. Really, it almost depends more on the defense than the offense at this point. A lot of youth on that side of the ball.
No RB in the league has a weekly floor of 90 and a TD. Anyone who expects that from Turner on a terrible team is foolish.
You assume it's a terrible team. It's not, IMO. It's an average, young team, with potential. Perhaps I'm too high on the floor for a number 2 RB, but that seems to be what's in most predicted stats I see, but I don't do projections, so I guess I'm guessing wrong. So, I'll just say I think he'll be a solid RB2 all season and leave it at that.
 
I think his seasonal value is fairly high and I don't see too many "tough" matchups to make me want to trade him away. Sure he will play solid Defenses at some point but plug and play with other backs should be an option for most that drafted him in the 5th round or so. If he can help get your team to the playoffs, you should be able to piece together another startable RB2/RB3 to help against Tampa and Minny. Remaining schedule below (bold means better than avg matchups):

21-Sep Kansas City

28-Sep @Carolina

5-Oct @Green Bay

12-Oct Chicago

Week 7 BYE

26-Oct @Philadelphia

2-Nov @Oakland

9-Nov New Orleans

16-Nov Denver

23-Nov Carolina

30-Nov @San Diego

7-Dec @New Orleans

14-Dec Tampa Bay

21-Dec @Minnesota

28-Dec St. Louis

 
I think his seasonal value is fairly high and I don't see too many "tough" matchups to make me want to trade him away. Sure he will play solid Defenses at some point but plug and play with other backs should be an option for most that drafted him in the 5th round or so. If he can help get your team to the playoffs, you should be able to piece together another startable RB2/RB3 to help against Tampa and Minny. Remaining schedule below (bold means better than avg matchups):

21-Sep Kansas City

28-Sep @Carolina

5-Oct @Green Bay

12-Oct Chicago

Week 7 BYE

26-Oct @Philadelphia

2-Nov @Oakland

9-Nov New Orleans

16-Nov Denver

23-Nov Carolina

30-Nov @San Diego

7-Dec @New Orleans

14-Dec Tampa Bay

21-Dec @Minnesota

28-Dec St. Louis
Missed one?
 
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i think you're overvaluing the two games against the saints. yes, they may have a weak defense. but their offense figures to light up atlanta and tgeh falcons will be playing from behind.

 
rockalum said:
i think you're overvaluing the two games against the saints. yes, they may have a weak defense. but their offense figures to light up atlanta and tgeh falcons will be playing from behind.
Depends on how it starts out, really. If we can get to Brees early and force some turnovers, get off to a quick start, we can keep it close and have a chance. If they come out successfully slinging the ball around and get up quickly, it'll be over. Don't forget that it's a divisional game, so don't look to closely at the records, both teams step it up for these games.Personally, I'd look for a solid game in the November time frame, and look to seel him for someone with a tastier playoff schedule. Minny in wk16 is not a good matchup for your fantasy superbowl.
 
THe best offer I can get right now for Turner is Houshmandzadeh.

I haven't taken the offer yet. Gonna make a pitch at Steve Smith and Fitzgerald first to see if it's possible to get them.

 

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