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*** Number 2 Draft Pick Strategy *** (1 Viewer)

AtomicDogg97

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I figured someone should create an official thread for the number 2 draft pick in this year's drafts. So, for everyone drafting second this year.......what are your thoughts and strategies about the pick?

Is Adrian Peterson a lock for the #2 overall pick? Or can you make a case for Steven Jackson and Brian Westbrook? Is the second pick too high for Tom Brady? What about your strategy for the second and third round? Do you go WR-WR or RB-WR?

Discuss amongst yourselves.......

 
Just found out I'm drafting 2nd and figured I'd bump this up with brief thoughts:

I have no idea who goes #1, but my top two guys in a PPR redraft are LT and Westbrook. AP needs to show me a full season under his belt for me to take him this early, i'll pass on the SJax situation, i would rather grab Palmer in the 4th than Brady in the 1st, and that's about all i'd really consider here.

if LT is taken 1, i take Westbrook 2. otherwise i take LT at 2.

in the 2/3 turn, i'll consider who is available. i like Colston, Fitz @ WR ... McGahee (despite surgery he's now paired with Cam Cameron who turned Ronnie Brown into a stud), Lewis @ RB ... Manning or Romo @ QB ... but if someone slides i'll probably nab them.

the 4/5 turn will depend on what i took at the 2/3 turn. not considering a TE here at all or until at least the 6/7 turn if someone drops.

 
I have the #2 pick in a .5 PPR league and I am also leaning towards Westbrook at the pick unless LT falls. The big question for me is what to do in the second and third round. I am tempted to go WR-WR with those picks and landing two studs. However, I am worried that there might be noo decent RB's left when I draft again in the late fourth.

If I do go RB in round 2 or 3, it would only be for Jamal Lewis, Ryan Grant, or Willie McGahee.

 
We start 2 RB, 2 WR, TE & no flex. I expect to be taking AP with 1.2 in a fourteen team league. We keep one, mine is Santonio Holmes in exchange for losing my 6th, and about eight pretty decent WRs will be kept.

At the 2/3 is where I'm having a problem. Most of the quality RBs will be gone. With the keepers, a lot of WRs will be gone. Barring exceptional value, I'm looking at crappy RB2 at 2 and a decent WR (Holt, Burress, Chad Johnson) at 3.

I'm actually planning on taking Chester Taylor at the 4.13 regardless of whether or not I have AP. The RBs in the 5th all have question marks. The guy picking at 4.14 & 5.1 took Michael Turner last year at 5. I don't put it ahead of him to take Taylor at 5. I want to avoid that. Maybe it's too early, but I'd like some security, and if I have to pass on Chris Cooley to do it, then I will.

 
12 team league, no ppr, flex and 1 keeper. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, K, D and 1 flex (RB, WR, TE)

Mine happens to be AP. At the 2/3 turn I watch for just what QB's or RB's slide to me. Should Brees/Romo fall there I pass them, and take leftover in 3rd. If only 1 falls, grab him. If both are gone Drew/Lewis should reach me in the 2nd. If I can get a top 4 QB I do, otherwise I pass on QB till late. I need 2 running backs out of the first 3 rounds.

Round 4/5-assuming that you have 1 QB and 2 RB you must go WR/WR. This position gets thin quickly, moreso than RB's. While the studs are now likely gone decent value is here. For me, I like Bowe/Roddy here. They are both the teams #1's on teams needing to pass. Pick 2 you like.

Round 5/6-This is the hardest part currently for me. Having AP requires you to go w/Chester at this point-he will NOT make it back to you in round 8, plus he is an acceptable flex as needed.I want the insurance as well. His value is at the point that someone will nab him reguardless of being a non AP owner. So that leaves 1 pick to play with. You can still grab a WR as a Galloway/Curtis type are around, but for me (today) Chris Johnson is my choice. Hope the hype calms down. Odds are 50/50 he doesn't make it back to you. (I say 20/80, but thats me)

Round 8/9-This is where a QB must be taken using my strategy. Defenses also disappear at this point. In my league, D's score very well, so if SD/Minn (Those are my top 2) are there I pass them and again take the leftover and go QB. There are still decent choices remaining if you didn't get a top 4. Schuab maybe Cutler. If you have your QB then TE is the pick. Another position that I find very deep. Crumpler, Scheffler seem to be available as well as LJ Smith, Keller, Olsen.

Round 10/11-Right now these are picks that I want to either add that 3rd WR or take a flyer. I like Rice/Pierre here. Mason, Hardy types can be had as well.

Thats my strategy currently with hopefully this result-

QB-Brees/Romo/Peyton (Just 1)

RB-AP, Drew or Lewis, Chester, Chris Johnson, Rice and Pierre

WR-Bowe/Roddy/ Meachem (Late rounder), Mason? Booker? Obomanu?

TE-Crumpler or Scheffler

D-SD or Minn

K-Prater (Last round) Weak at WR but I feel confident in finding these guys on the wire.

My thoughts

 
after doing some mocks last night from the 2 slot, i'm fairly certain i'm going to go RB/WR/WR in rounds 1-3

the difference in RB talent available at the 2/3 turn is not all that different from the 4/5 turn but there is a significant WR talent dropoff

i'm looking at hopefully going:

1.02 LT or Westbrook

2.11 Colston or Fitz or AJ

3.02 Holt or CJ

4.11 McFadden or Turner or Thomas Jones or similar if someone falls

5.02 we'll see ... maybe a QB

 
I would think if you only start 2 WR I'd pick 1 wr at the 2/3 turn and seriously pick RBs with the rest... Supply and demand. Avoid the RBBC and take some risks. Target Kevin Curtis and your #2 WR and in round 6-7 and you'll look like this:

1-1-RB1 ADP/Westie (PPR dependent)

2-29-RB2 Reggie Bush etc. ---or WR1

3-25-WR1 Colston would be swelll ----or RB2

4-44--RB3 Edgerrin James

5-45--RB4 Thomas Jones would be nice or Rudi

6-63-RB5 Selvin Young or WR if they're going...

7-70S-WR2 (Cotchery/Chambers/Driver esp if PPR)

TRADE YOUR WAY TO A CHAMPEENCHIP...

 
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This is what I am looking at in a 16 team league (start QB, RB RB, WR WR WR, TE, DT, PK) - all TD's 6 points pretty standard scoring...

I formulated the below using last year's draft as a guide (i.e. how many per each position went prior to my pick, using ADP to figure out what sort of players would be available to me). Do you see any reaches?

(# Selected Prior|Average Draft Position)

QB: Garrard (12|16)

RB: ADP (1|2); SYoung (25|34); JNorwood (40|44)

WR: RWayne (1|2); CaJohnson (18|19); TGinn (44|>52)

TE: Gates (2|1)

Pr = # of that position selected prior to this pick

Draft Pr Po Name

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1.02 01 RB ADP

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2.15 25 RB SYoung (will take Brees or Moss if they fall to me)

3.02 01 WR RWayne

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4.15 18 WR CaJohnson (if no RB at 2.15 then my RB options are of the likes of DWilliams/RMendenhall/JNorword/Taylor(!))

5.02 02 TE Gates

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6.15 40 RB JNorwood

7.02 12 QB Garrard

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8.15 44 WR TGinn

Taking Chester Taylor at 4.15 (after 33 RB's are off the board) would be an interesting pairing with ADP (from 1.02)

 
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I just think going RB-WR-WR is a big risk because there may not be a decent RB left when you get to 4.11.

Guys like Thomas Jones, Edgerrin james, etc will probably all be gone by then. You might be stuck with someone like Lendale White or Selvin Young.

 
Interesting that so many people are leaning towards Westbrook over AP. I thought AP was almost a lock at the #2 spot - even in PPR leagues given the Westbrooks injury concerns. Im personally scared of taking Westbrook at 2 for that reason.

Care to discuss? Are others leaning towards AP?

 
This is what I am looking at in a 16 team league (start QB, RB RB, WR WR WR, TE, DT, PK) - all TD's 6 points pretty standard scoring...

I formulated the below using last year's draft as a guide (i.e. how many per each position went prior to my pick, using ADP to figure out what sort of players would be available to me). Do you see any reaches?

(# Selected Prior|Average Draft Position)

QB: Garrard (12|16)

RB: ADP (1|2); SYoung (25|34); JNorwood (40|44)

WR: RWayne (1|2); CaJohnson (18|19); TGinn (44|>52)

TE: Gates (2|1)

Pr = # of that position selected prior to this pick

Draft Pr Po Name

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1.02 01 RB ADP

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2.15 25 RB SYoung

3.02 01 WR RWayne

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4.15 18 WR CaJohnson

5.02 02 TE Gates

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6.15 40 RB JNorwood

7.02 12 QB Garrard

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8.15 44 WR TGinn
Wayne at 3.02 in a 16 team league is VERY optimistic
 
This is what I am looking at in a 16 team league (start QB, RB RB, WR WR WR, TE, DT, PK) - all TD's 6 points pretty standard scoring...

I formulated the below using last year's draft as a guide (i.e. how many per each position went prior to my pick, using ADP to figure out what sort of players would be available to me). Do you see any reaches?

(# Selected Prior|Average Draft Position)

QB: Garrard (12|16)

RB: ADP (1|2); SYoung (25|34); JNorwood (40|44)

WR: RWayne (1|2); CaJohnson (18|19); TGinn (44|>52)

TE: Gates (2|1)

Pr = # of that position selected prior to this pick

Draft Pr Po Name

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1.02 01 RB ADP

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2.15 25 RB SYoung

3.02 01 WR RWayne

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4.15 18 WR CaJohnson

5.02 02 TE Gates

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6.15 40 RB JNorwood

7.02 12 QB Garrard

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8.15 44 WR TGinn
Wayne at 3.02 in a 16 team league is VERY optimistic
Last year's draft went like this after 33 picks:QB: 5

RB: 27

WR: 1

Remember it is a start 2 RB and all TD's are 6 pts (non-ppr), things could go differently this year and if that is the case I snag a top QB like Brees and settle for a guy like Owens, Edge or Willie Parker if fewer RB's go this year.

 
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Interesting that so many people are leaning towards Westbrook over AP. I thought AP was almost a lock at the #2 spot - even in PPR leagues given the Westbrooks injury concerns. Im personally scared of taking Westbrook at 2 for that reason.Care to discuss? Are others leaning towards AP?
You think AP is LESS of an injury risk than Westbrook?
 
Interesting that so many people are leaning towards Westbrook over AP. I thought AP was almost a lock at the #2 spot - even in PPR leagues given the Westbrooks injury concerns. Im personally scared of taking Westbrook at 2 for that reason.Care to discuss? Are others leaning towards AP?
I'm a not fan of either guy at #2, but I'd take Westbrook over ADP at this point in that spot if I had to pick between the two..ADP just lost McKinnie for 4 games.. :confused:
 
I will give you the results from my 10 team draft last night for those interested in 10 teamers. Starting reqs - 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1flex rb or wr, 1te, 1k, 1d

.5 ppr, 4 pt pass tds and 1 per 10 yds, 6 pt rush and rcv tds, 1 per 10 yds.

I went into this draft knowing i was going RB/WR/WR in the first three rounds unless someone of great value dropped.

1.2 - ADP

2.9 - TO (unreal value imo)

3.2 - Fitz

4.9 - S Smith (again he slid too far)

5.2 - Graham ( others avail - s young, r brown, edge, t jones)

6.9 - R Brown

7.2 - Calvin Johnson

8.9 - Hasselbeck

9.2 - C Taylor

10.9 - Minn D (We get big pts for d)

11.2 - R Williams

12.9 - Sheffler

13.2 - Campbell

So without dwelling on my picks, I think the #2 and #3 spots in 10 or 12 teamers present a lot of value picks. You can go conservative and lock up rbs or take BPA at any position and do ok..

Every mock I have seen from the #2 spot can vary widely but usually rounds 2-5 see someone falling that shouldnt. Sometimes LJ made it to the 2.9, mcgahee fell to me in the 4th in one mock. Wayne, Fitz, Edwards usually fell to the 2nd and occassionally manning.

 
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I just think going RB-WR-WR is a big risk because there may not be a decent RB left when you get to 4.11.Guys like Thomas Jones, Edgerrin james, etc will probably all be gone by then. You might be stuck with someone like Lendale White or Selvin Young.
If I had AD, Colston and Chad Johnson, I'd be very comfortable with any two of Lendale White, Rudi Johnson, Julius Jones, Selvin Young or Matt Forte as my RB2/3.
 
I have the #2 pick in a .5 PPR league and I am also leaning towards Westbrook at the pick unless LT falls. The big question for me is what to do in the second and third round. I am tempted to go WR-WR with those picks and landing two studs. However, I am worried that there might be noo decent RB's left when I draft again in the late fourth. If I do go RB in round 2 or 3, it would only be for Jamal Lewis, Ryan Grant, or Willie McGahee.
I'm in the same spot, with the same scoring. I'm going ADP then probably wr/wr. I know Grant will be gone and I'm pretty sure McGahee will be also. Nobody is considering MJD at this spot? I don't want to reach just to get some rb depth.
 
I will give you the results from my 10 team draft last night for those interested in 10 teamers. Starting reqs - 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1flex rb or wr, 1te, 1k, 1d.5 ppr, 4 pt pass tds and 1 per 10 yds, 6 pt rush and rcv tds, 1 per 10 yds.I went into this draft knowing i was going RB/WR/WR in the first three rounds unless someone of great value dropped. 1.2 - ADP2.9 - TO (unreal value imo)3.2 - Fitz4.9 - S Smith (again he slid too far)5.2 - Graham ( others avail - s young, r brown, edge, t jones)6.9 - R Brown7.2 - Calvin Johnson8.9 - Hasselbeck9.2 - C Taylor10.9 - Minn D (We get big pts for d)11.2 - R Williams12.9 - Sheffler13.2 - CampbellSo without dwelling on my picks, I think the #2 and #3 spots in 10 or 12 teamers present a lot of value picks. You can go conservative and lock up rbs or take BPA at any position and do ok..Every mock I have seen from the #2 spot can vary widely but usually rounds 2-5 see someone falling that shouldnt. Sometimes LJ made it to the 2.9, mcgahee fell to me in the 4th in one mock. Wayne, Fitz, Edwards usually fell to the 2nd and occassionally manning.
Wow I would love that team.... I don't see that happening in my league though unless I am not up on the draft this year.Calv John in the 7th? Chester in the 9th? Graham in the 5th? I gotta research the ADP real quick but they seem odd. I'd love to go RB/stud wr/stud wr but we will see what falls. Also - I'm torn between Bwest and AP. As an Eagles fan who drafted Bwest at #10 last year and rode him to the super bowl I am scared to tempt fate and go with Bwest again....Quick Update - Graham ADP per FBG should be in the 30's...
 
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strange on McGahee. some people are VERY down on him due to the surgery so close to the start of the season and reports he showed up out of shape. coupled with Ray Rice sitting behind him ...

I was high on McGahee getting paired with Cam Cameron, but now I'm not sure I'd take him 2.11 or 3.02 when there are less risky values out there

 
Any thoughts of taking Joseph Addai at #2 over both Peterson and Westbrook?

Addai should continue to be a powerhouse in the Indy system even if he loses a few carries to Dominick Rhodes.

This may be a pick or two higher than where you'd like to take him, but you don't have to worry about the injury risks that Peterson (especially) and Westbrook could bring.

 
Any thoughts of taking Joseph Addai at #2 over both Peterson and Westbrook?Addai should continue to be a powerhouse in the Indy system even if he loses a few carries to Dominick Rhodes.This may be a pick or two higher than where you'd like to take him, but you don't have to worry about the injury risks that Peterson (especially) and Westbrook could bring.
I don't think this is a terrible idea, but realize you're definitely limiting the upside. Addai just barely broke 1000 yards rushing last year. I see more of the same, perhaps with less goal-line opportunities than last year. I've got him at about 1400 total yards, 14 total TDs this year -- which is solid, but not spectacular.
 
I just mocked out of the 2 spot (10 teamer)

QB(Romo-2nd, Rogers- 13th)

RB(AP- 1st, Maroney- 4th, S Young- 7th, Chris Johnson-9, Felix Jones- 12, Kenny Watson- 14)

WR(C Johnson- 3rd, Chambers- 6th, R White- 8th, V Jackson- 10th)

TE (Witten- 5th)

Def( Dallas - 11th)

K (Folk- 15th)

I would love to go into my 10 team league with that.

 
Any thoughts of taking Joseph Addai at #2 over both Peterson and Westbrook?Addai should continue to be a powerhouse in the Indy system even if he loses a few carries to Dominick Rhodes.This may be a pick or two higher than where you'd like to take him, but you don't have to worry about the injury risks that Peterson (especially) and Westbrook could bring.
I don't think this is a terrible idea, but realize you're definitely limiting the upside. Addai just barely broke 1000 yards rushing last year. I see more of the same, perhaps with less goal-line opportunities than last year. I've got him at about 1400 total yards, 14 total TDs this year -- which is solid, but not spectacular.
Agreed - it's more of a safe pick, and it definitely does not have the upside of a healthy Adrian Peterson.
 
As of right now, I am taking ADP. But tomorrow I could be on Westy...
Lol I'm still waivering a bit after looking more closely at Westy's numbers.Last year was Westy's best season statistically, and by a wide margin. 20+ more receptions, more carries and rushing yards, etc. I'm no longer as certain as I was about taking Westy if LT is off the board in a 0.5PPR league. I think Westy doesn't have higher upside than his last seasons totals, and is still an injury risk.
 
Posted this in a recent thread:

I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.
In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.
In the other thread, people responded to generally say they were uncomfortable waiting until the 6th for RB2. So let me make one point on that: Last year, I went RB-WR-WR to start from the third draft position, and took Foster at 4.14 as my RB2, then QB in the 5th. I could have had Witten/Winslow at TE in the 4th/5th, and only 1 RB was taken between my Foster pick and my 6.14 pick. So in retrospect I would have been better off waiting on RB2. Of course, that was last year...I made a spreadsheet to analyze a number of different combinations in the first 7 picks, based on last year's draft (i.e., what was available at each pick). If I want to avoid getting the 18th QB taken as my first QB, then I have to take QB by the 5th. Using FBG projections with no tweaks, it turns out that this route projects the most points:QB1 - BradyRB23 - e.g., ParkerWR6 - e.g., EdwardsWR20 - e.g., CotcheryTE2 - e.g., WinslowRB34 - e.g., Chester TaylorThis lineup yields a great QB, TE, and set of WRs at the expense of RB. When I did this analysis last week, this group would produce 1117 points (FBG projections).However, I'm not sure I'm comfortable taking Brady at 1.2. The next best solution was this:RB2 - presumably APWR5 - e.g., Andre JohnsonWR6 - e.g., EdwardsRB32 - e.g., MendenhallTE2 - e.g., WinslowQB18 - e.g., RodgersThis group has much better RBs, carried by the AP choice, even better WRs, and the same strong TE... at the expense of the drop from Brady to Rodgers. This group would produce 1106 points (FBG projections).Another alternative is almost identical:RB2 - presumably APWR5 - e.g., Andre JohnsonWR6 - e.g., EdwardsTE2 - e.g., WinslowQB12 - e.g., Derek AndersonRB34 - e.g., Chester TaylorThis group would produce 1105 points (FBG projections).If I'm not comfortable taking Brady at 1.2, I have to decide whether or not I'm comfortable waiting until QB18 or so to get my starting QB. Note that we have only a 5 man bench, so I do not want to carry 3 QBs for a QBBC approach... 2 QBs in a committee may work, though.All that said, I am just trying to explore options, and I will definitely adjust as the draft unfolds.
 
If Bush is sitting there late in RD2, would you gobble him up or go for the WR? This is a PPR league.
If Bush is there with my second pick (PPR league) I really don't think I could pass on him there. The way that receivers have been gobbled up in the second round is worrisome, but a Westbrook/Bush then best receiver available (Chad Johnson?) start would be something I think I would be pretty comfortable with.
 
I dont like the idea of all the WRs starting to go in RD2. From AJ,Colston,Edwards. But I guess that leaves Rbs dropping in late Rd2 and early 3rd. How about J.Lewis late in Rd2? PPR.

 
Just for reference, I drafted out of the 2 spot 2 weeks ago in a 10 team 1 ppr league. 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1flex wr/rb, 1flex wr/te, te, k, def, 2 D players. passing td's-6 -- Here were my first 11 rds

1- B.West

2-A.Johnson

3-B.Edwards

4-T.Holt

5-A.Boldin

6-Edge

7-B.Jacobs

8-McNabb

9-J.Shockey

10-M.Bulger

11-J.Stewart

 
I am good friends with the guy drafting 1.01 (I have 1.02). He offered a first round swap in exchange for fantasy dollars (we get 1k for WW pickups). 16 team league start 2 RB's. I was originally looking at ADP but not so sure right now, I think it might be worth 100 fantasy dollars for LT2. It would be near impossible to handcuff Chester Taylor to ADP without using a late 4th round or very early 5th round on him.

Thoughts?

 
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I drafted last night out of the 2 spot in a 10 team no PPR league. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR , 1 TE, K, D The #1 pick actually went Westy! So while my 1st pick will be quite different than many if not all of you, you can see how the rest of the draft shook out.

1.02 LT

2.09 Romo (Brees was there but I am very confident Romo will have the better year and thus didn't want to leave it for chance)

3.02 AJ (Graham and Jamal were there, but felt that by my next pick, elite receivers would be gone

4.09 Boldin - the guy after had gone RB RB QB so I thought I could let RB slip by here and tag it on the way back..wrong he went Maroney and now I had a decision to make

5.02 Ronnie Brown: Selvin, Bush, Forte and Parker were all still there

6.09 Lee Evans

7.02 Edge, This time passing on the RB worked and I picked up a solid RB3

8.08 Galloway

9.02 D. Williams

10.09 Cooley (Steal)

11.02 R. Williams (glad I did that)

12.09 Rivers

13.02 Hightower (not the big dude from Police academy)

14.09 Jags D

15.02 Fargas

16.09 Z. Miller

17.02 Dawson

QB: Romo, Rivers

RB: LT, Brown, Edge, D. Williams, R. Williams, Fargas, Hightower

WR: AJ, Boldin, Evans, Galloway

TE: Cooley, Miller

K: Dawnson

D: Jags

I went for 4 solid WR's and then just horded RB's hoping the Miami situation clears up so I can start one at RB2 with confidence.

I could have easily let Romo pass, MJD went right after him and got Brees on the way back or just pushed QB off till later and done MJD and then AJ.....hmmm....maybe ........nah......

 
I am good friends with the guy drafting 1.01 (I have 1.02). He offered a first round swap in exchange for fantasy dollars (we get 1k for WW pickups). 16 team league start 2 RB's. I was originally looking at ADP but not so sure right now, I think it might be worth 100 fantasy dollars for LT2. It would be near impossible to handcuff Chester Taylor to ADP without using a late 4th round or very early 5th round on him.Thoughts?
To be honest, when my 1st pick when westy I was so geeked to get LT there but also to know I wasn't going to need to secure chester, that said he didn't go till the 10th and not to the schmuck that got AP....I say make the deal
 
for reference, here is how i drafted my omega team at the 2 spot (12-team league, PPR, start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE,no flex)

some of the options available at the first few rounds notes

ADP (passed on Westbrook)

Bush (passed on Burress, Housh, Jamal Lewis)

Chad Johnson (passed on Steve Smith, Holt)

Turner (passed on Thomas Jones, Gates)

Harrison (passed on Dwayne Bowe, Lav Coles)

Big Ben (passed on Derek Anderson)

Driver

Chester

Mendenhall (passed on Felix Jones)

Schaub (passed on Delhomme)

McAllister

Mark Clayton

DJax

NY Giants DEF

Kevin Boss

TB Bucs DEF

Donald Lee

Eddie Royal

edit to add: well, it looks like within 3 hours of drafting him, Chad Johnson might be seriously hurt ......... great way to start off the season!

 
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Thinking I was going WR-Wr. I was hoping for Colston and Fitz, but that probably not gonna happen. How about Housh and Welker. If not really like Brees...

 
Spiderman said:
wolfeman said:
I was goign RB-WR-WR, but may have to change the plan. Probably go for RB2, then WR or QB?
Who do we expect to be left at the end of the 2nd round, early 3rd round in a 12 person league ?
RB-Drew POSSIBLY, Lewis (likely), Bush (Unless PPR) McGahee (depending on injury status)WR-Chad, TJ Hozie, S. Smith, Marshall, Welker and MAYBE ColstonQB-Brees most likely of the top 4 (Sometimes Romo), PalmerThat is why in my original post I thought it was imperitive to get 2 RB's in your first 3 picks.
 
I am good friends with the guy drafting 1.01 (I have 1.02). He offered a first round swap in exchange for fantasy dollars (we get 1k for WW pickups). 16 team league start 2 RB's. I was originally looking at ADP but not so sure right now, I think it might be worth 100 fantasy dollars for LT2. It would be near impossible to handcuff Chester Taylor to ADP without using a late 4th round or very early 5th round on him.Thoughts?
To be honest, when my 1st pick when westy I was so geeked to get LT there but also to know I wasn't going to need to secure chester, that said he didn't go till the 10th and not to the schmuck that got AP....I say make the deal
I offered him 10% of my dollars, 100 out of 1000 and he accepted. We only swapped 1.01 for 1.02 so I still get to pick before him the 2nd round. I am guessing he was high on ADP and was considering taking him #1 overall but figured it would be smarter for him to trade down.
 
for reference, here is how i drafted my omega team at the 2 spot (12-team league, PPR, start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE,no flex)some of the options available at the first few rounds notesADP (passed on Westbrook)Bush (passed on Burress, Housh, Jamal Lewis)Chad Johnson (passed on Steve Smith, Holt)Turner (passed on Thomas Jones, Gates)Harrison (passed on Dwayne Bowe, Lav Coles)Big Ben (passed on Derek Anderson)DriverChesterMendenhall (passed on Felix Jones)Schaub (passed on Delhomme)McAllisterMark ClaytonDJaxNY Giants DEFKevin BossTB Bucs DEFDonald LeeEddie Royaledit to add: well, it looks like within 3 hours of drafting him, Chad Johnson might be seriously hurt ......... great way to start off the season!
Thats a pretty good draft out of the two spot (assuming Chad isnt injured too badly). The only questionable pick in my opinion was taking Turner in round four after already having secured ADP and Bush in the first two rounds. Gates would have rounded out your team nicely. In general, though, I think you did extremely well for yourself.
 
for reference, here is how i drafted my omega team at the 2 spot (12-team league, PPR, start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE,no flex)some of the options available at the first few rounds notesADP (passed on Westbrook)Bush (passed on Burress, Housh, Jamal Lewis)Chad Johnson (passed on Steve Smith, Holt)Turner (passed on Thomas Jones, Gates)Harrison (passed on Dwayne Bowe, Lav Coles)Big Ben (passed on Derek Anderson)DriverChesterMendenhall (passed on Felix Jones)Schaub (passed on Delhomme)McAllisterMark ClaytonDJaxNY Giants DEFKevin BossTB Bucs DEFDonald LeeEddie Royaledit to add: well, it looks like within 3 hours of drafting him, Chad Johnson might be seriously hurt ......... great way to start off the season!
Thats a pretty good draft out of the two spot (assuming Chad isnt injured too badly). The only questionable pick in my opinion was taking Turner in round four after already having secured ADP and Bush in the first two rounds. Gates would have rounded out your team nicely. In general, though, I think you did extremely well for yourself.
Thanks for the feedback Native, although I wasn't trying to solicit it. I think that ADP and Bush are a risky pair, which forced my hand in taking Turner when he was there late. This ended up making my WRs pretty weak.I think that if you are in a start 2RB/3WR league with no flex like I was, you should try to wind up with 2 WRs by round 4 if you value the position (I do in a PPR setup). There seems to be more depth at RB than WR this year.
 
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I have the second pick in a 16 team draft (no PPR, start 1/2/3/1/1/1). 16 teams makes the value thin out a lot faster, with 28 picks between my odd and even round picks. I plan to go RB at 1.2 and get at least one WR at 2.15 and 3.2, with the other spot best available RB/WR. After that, I'll just go best available.I like the benefit of an early pick in terms of getting LT/AP, but I think this position tends to be the beneficiary of less sliding value players, since there aren't enough picks between even and odd picks for value to develop and there are so many picks between odd and even picks that it is less likely a value pick will slide all the way back. Also, it is sometimes necessary to take a position earlier than you might normally be inclined to do so (e.g., QB, TE, D/ST) to avoid being frozen out of a position run.
In case anyone cares, I did some strategizing about this tonight, and I'm seriously considering the following plan:1.2 - LT/AP2.15 - WR1 (last year only 4 WRs were gone at this point, compared to 22 RBs)3.2 - WR24.15 - QB1 or TE, based on needs of the team at 1.15.2 - TE or QB1, whichever I didn't take at 4.15Notes: last year, by pick 6.15, 17 QBs were gone, so I feel forced to avoid getting frozen out at the position; meanwhile, last year, only 1 RB went between 5.2 and 6.15, and only 1 TE was taken by 5.2.6.15 - RB27.2 - RB38.15 - QB2 or WR3, based on needs of the team at 1.19.2 - WR3 or QB2, whichever I didn't take at 8.1510.15 to 14.15 - RB4, WR4, K, D/ST, and best value in some order determined by valueOh yeah, only 14 rounds. By foregoing RB2 until 6.15, I should be able to get 2 top 6-8 WRs, a top 2 TE, and a solid QB to go with LT/AP.
In the other thread, people responded to generally say they were uncomfortable waiting until the 6th for RB2. So let me make one point on that: Last year, I went RB-WR-WR to start from the third draft position, and took Foster at 4.14 as my RB2, then QB in the 5th. I could have had Witten/Winslow at TE in the 4th/5th, and only 1 RB was taken between my Foster pick and my 6.14 pick. So in retrospect I would have been better off waiting on RB2. Of course, that was last year...I made a spreadsheet to analyze a number of different combinations in the first 7 picks, based on last year's draft (i.e., what was available at each pick). If I want to avoid getting the 18th QB taken as my first QB, then I have to take QB by the 5th. Using FBG projections with no tweaks, it turns out that this route projects the most points:QB1 - BradyRB23 - e.g., ParkerWR6 - e.g., EdwardsWR20 - e.g., CotcheryTE2 - e.g., WinslowRB34 - e.g., Chester TaylorThis lineup yields a great QB, TE, and set of WRs at the expense of RB. When I did this analysis last week, this group would produce 1117 points (FBG projections).However, I'm not sure I'm comfortable taking Brady at 1.2. The next best solution was this:RB2 - presumably APWR5 - e.g., Andre JohnsonWR6 - e.g., EdwardsRB32 - e.g., MendenhallTE2 - e.g., WinslowQB18 - e.g., RodgersThis group has much better RBs, carried by the AP choice, even better WRs, and the same strong TE... at the expense of the drop from Brady to Rodgers. This group would produce 1106 points (FBG projections).Another alternative is almost identical:RB2 - presumably APWR5 - e.g., Andre JohnsonWR6 - e.g., EdwardsTE2 - e.g., WinslowQB12 - e.g., Derek AndersonRB34 - e.g., Chester TaylorThis group would produce 1105 points (FBG projections).If I'm not comfortable taking Brady at 1.2, I have to decide whether or not I'm comfortable waiting until QB18 or so to get my starting QB. Note that we have only a 5 man bench, so I do not want to carry 3 QBs for a QBBC approach... 2 QBs in a committee may work, though.All that said, I am just trying to explore options, and I will definitely adjust as the draft unfolds.
I am in a 16 teamer as well with the same starting requirements, how much are passing TD's? (they are 6 in our league)Here was our breakdown for the first 4 rounds last year for comparison (when drafting from the 2 spot)
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R# QB-RB-WR-TER1 00-01-00-00R2 04-25-01-00R3 05-27-01-00R4 10-33-19-02
I think the best I could come up with doing something similar was starting off like...R1: ADPR2: Brees (if he is there), otherwise SYoung, otherwise RWayneR3: RWayne (or TO), if we took a WR at R2 then best RBR4: CaJohnson (if he is there)It leaves you scrambling for RB's in these next few rounds but gives you a good core to build from, I think based on the above data, you could even look to get someone like Gates or Winslow at 5.02 if you really want to roll the dice on RB's in rounds 6 or later. If you go with a strat like this which banks heavily on Brees and CaJohnson falling, you can always take best available RB in those spots.
 
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I just finished drafting in a 12 team non ppr league from the number two and came away with this:

1. ADP

2. Andre Johnson

3. TJ Houshmanzadeh

4. Kellen Winslow

5. Jonathan Stewart

6. Kevin Smith

7. Lee Evans

8. Vikings D

9. Ahmad Bradshaw

10. Marc Bulger

11. Jake Delhomme

12. Reggie Brown

13. Vincent Jackson

14. Steve Slaton

15. Donald Lee

16. Matt Prater

I'm pretty happy with my draft considering I didn't draft a second running back till round 5. It was a very RB top-heavy first 2 or 3 rounds, so I didn't really feel there was good value to draft a RB in rounds 2-4. When Stewart fell to 5 and Smith was still there at 6, I couldn't have been more pleased. Hopefully, someone will break through via the waiver wires, but overall, I'm pleased with my draft.

 
I just finished drafting in a 12 team non ppr league from the number two and came away with this:1. ADP2. Andre Johnson3. TJ Houshmanzadeh4. Kellen Winslow5. Jonathan Stewart6. Kevin Smith7. Lee Evans8. Vikings D9. Ahmad Bradshaw10. Marc Bulger11. Jake Delhomme12. Reggie Brown13. Vincent Jackson14. Steve Slaton15. Donald Lee16. Matt PraterI'm pretty happy with my draft considering I didn't draft a second running back till round 5. It was a very RB top-heavy first 2 or 3 rounds, so I didn't really feel there was good value to draft a RB in rounds 2-4. When Stewart fell to 5 and Smith was still there at 6, I couldn't have been more pleased. Hopefully, someone will break through via the waiver wires, but overall, I'm pleased with my draft.
I was drafting at 1.01 in this draft and there was NO value at RB in rounds 2-3. Very good draft....to bad we are in the same division :goodposting:
 
I would like to WR-WR in rds 2-3. Maybe a Brees or Romo falls into late Rd2, instead. Then RB2. Then bang out the WRs. When is Marshall generally going?

 
Does this seem a little too risky?

Value drop after the | is how many season fantasy points lost by not taking that position

Tomlinson (RB1) -- traded up from 1.02 for 10% of my fantasy WW dollars

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Wayne (WR2) | -66 --- Last year 1 WR taken after 30 picks (25 RB's, 4 QB's)

Owens (WR3) | -57

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Winslow (TE2) | -41 --- Last year 1 TE taken after 62 picks (33 RB's, 18 WR's, 10 QB's, 0 DT's)

Vikings (DT1) | -29 (tied with WR drop)

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Garrard (QB7) | -20 (WR drop at -22, DT drop at -24) --- Last year 12 QB's taken after 94 picks (40 RB's, 30 WR's, 7 TE's, 5 DT's)

Norwood (RB35) | -9 (smallest drop of the 5 positions)

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Value...

16 team league all TD's 6pts

start: QB, RB RB, WR WR WR, TE, PK, DT

drop chart looks like this - got a better angle to take from this position?

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QB	RB	WR	TE	DTRD2	42	34	66	 5	 0RD4	10	19	29	41	29RD6	20	 9	22	15	24
 
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