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Oakland Out of Culpepper Sweepstakes? (1 Viewer)

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Raiders searching for Collins' successor

Oakland cuts QB on the same day it drops out of the Culpepper sweepstakes

By Steve Corkran CONTRA COSTA TIMES

The Raiders released veteran quarterback Kerry Collins on Friday afternoon in a move that freed up much-needed salary-cap room but also left them without a proven starting quarterback.

For now, anyway. The Raiders explored the possibility of trading for disgruntled Minnesota Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper but found the asking price and risk too steep for their liking, a person in the front office said.

A prohibitive 2006 salary led to the Raiders' releasing Collins, 33. He was slated to earn $6 million in base salary next season, in addition to a $2.5 million roster bonus due him Wednesday. The Raiders pared almost $9.2 million from their 2006 salary cap by cutting Collins.

They also put themselves in an uneasy situation. That is, they are without a proven starter for the first time since they returned to Oakland for the 1995 season. Marques Tuiasosopo has started only two games in his five NFL seasons. Andrew Walter did not play at all his rookie season last year.

Collins started 28 games during his two-year stint with the Raiders. They won only seven of those games. As a result, Raiders fans turned on Collins. That, along with his $12.6 million cap figure and inconsistent play, makes his return unlikely.

Still, it remains a possibility, the front office person said, that the Raiders will re-sign Collins between now and the start of the season. They have agreed to speak in the coming days.

The likelihood of Collins' return increased once the Raiders dropped out of the Culpepper sweepstakes Friday night. However, Collins awakens today free to negotiate a contract with any of the league's 32 teams, Numerous teams are in need of a legitimate starting quarterback. It's a safe bet to assume that Collins' name just got added to the list of many of those teams. The Baltimore Ravens reportedly are interested in reuniting Collins with offensive coordinator Jim Fassel.

Fassel coached a New York Giants team that reached the Super Bowl at the end of the 2000 season with Collins at quarterback.

Collins offered the Raiders the most convenient option, if not the cheapest, to fill their quarterback spot. He is familiar with most of the players, spent the past two seasons with the Raiders, and was respected as an on-field and off-the-field leader.

His signing elsewhere would leave the Raiders in a quandary. Do they entrust the reins to Tuiasosopo or Walter? Do they gamble on a free agent such as Drew Brees, Brian Griese, Jon Kitna or Josh McCown? Or do they select a quarterback in the NFL draft and rush him into action? New coach Art Shell and managing general partner Al Davis aren't tipping their hand. Ultimately, they decided that gambling on Culpepper involved too much downside.

For instance, Culpepper still is in the midst of rehabilitating from surgery to repair the damage he sustained from three torn ligaments in his right knee in a game Oct. 30.

He reportedly is ahead of schedule in his rehabilitation, though it remains uncertain whether he will be cleared to play in time for the regular-season opener six months or so from now.

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Welcome to Oakland Mr. Brooks. You can throw the deep ball as well as anybody and you are no worse than Culpepper.

 
I still beleive Culpepper will end up a Raider, Just for free, not a conditional draft pick. Time will tell. Patience will be needed on this one to develop.

 
I talked to Duante's mom this morning at the food bank where we both do charity work, she said don't be surprised to see Duante wearing a star on his helmet next year.

 
I talked to Duante's mom this morning at the food bank where we both do charity work, she said don't be surprised to see Duante wearing a star on his helmet next year.
You mean this one?Very ineffective :fishing: when you can't spell his name correctly.

 
I talked to Duante's mom this morning at the food bank where we both do charity work, she said don't be surprised to see Duante wearing a star on his helmet next year.
good one :lmao: :thumbup:
 
Welcome to Oakland Mr. Brooks. You can throw the deep ball as well as anybody and you are no worse than Culpepper.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
You can laugh all you want but these two match up fairly evenly from an atheletic performance stand point. Everybody says Brooks is not very bright but I don't see Culpepper building any rockets in the near future, unless the launching pad is going to be between some strippers breast..
 
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Welcome to Oakland Mr. Brooks. You can throw the deep ball as well as anybody and you are no worse than Culpepper.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
You can laugh all you want but these two match up fairly evenly from an atheletic performance stand point. Everybody says Brooks is not very bright but I don't see Culpepper building any rockets in the near future, unless the launching pad is going to be between some strippers breast..
:loco:
 
I still beleive Culpepper will end up a Raider, Just for free, not a conditional draft pick. Time will tell. Patience will be needed on this one to develop.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9298528"A Raiders official said Oakland never made an offer to Minnesota, even though the two sides spoke. The Raiders official said the team is absolutely out of the Culpepper sweepstakes. "

 
Welcome to Oakland Mr. Brooks. You can throw the deep ball as well as anybody and you are no worse than Culpepper.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
You can laugh all you want but these two match up fairly evenly from an atheletic performance stand point. Everybody says Brooks is not very bright but I don't see Culpepper building any rockets in the near future, unless the launching pad is going to be between some strippers breast..
POTD :D
 
Your missing the whole point. Raiders never jumped in the sweepstaes because they know they will get him for free down the road when he is released.

Or maybe Minny is keeping him around even long enough to organize and lead Korean on the loveboat 2006. :excited:

:banned:

 
Why is everyone laughing about Brooks in Oakland? He's really no worse than Collins, and could actually be a decent improvement.

Yeah, he sucks, but Collins sucks a lot worse.

 
Why is everyone laughing about Brooks in Oakland?  He's really no worse than Collins, and could actually be a decent improvement.

Yeah, he sucks, but Collins sucks a lot worse.
I was not laughing at Brooks in Oakland. I was laughing at this statement.
... I don't see Culpepper building any rockets in the near future, unless the launching pad is going to be between some strippers breast..
 
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Right, Brooks is better than Culpepper. Can we just forget Culpepper's year last year and move on? The O line was so bad the first few games he was getting pancaked by defensive tackles every other play. The D at the beginning of the year was horrendous which hurt just as much.

OK, 2004, had Peyton not had the unreal year, who would have won the NFL MVP award? Aaron Brooks? I think not.

If Pepper has a fault it's that he goes a little Favre when his team gets down by a lot of points and forces the issue. Still, I'd rather have either of these guys over Brooks or whatever scrubs Oakland has on its roster (tui Walter).

We forget QB is 1 position on the field. Team does poorly its the QB's fault. Team wins Super Bowl and its all the QB.

To me, the most important thing about Pepper is his return from injury. He's the same QB who would have won MVP in 2004 (in any other year) and posted like the 2nd or 3rd highest passer ratings in NFL history and is also an awesome running QB. He didn't suddenly forget how to play football in one year.

When Brooks or any of these lesser QB's throws 39 TD's in a season (twice) I'll start calling them half the QB Daunte is.

 
Now that C-Pep to Miami's a done deal, let's talk about Andrew Walter.

Is he now the front-runner for the job? :popcorn:

 
Paging Matt Schaub.... Paging Matt Schaub....
No one's talking about it, but Ramsey's still out there too . . .
As is McCown
And Brooks. And the ability to pick a QB high in the draft.It's still way up in the air until Oak either makes a move or announces a commitment to Walter. Without such an announcement, odds of him starting at this point still aren't great. As a Walter dynasty owner I'd love to see it, but I'm not holding my breath.

 
Barring trades into the top picks, Vince Young will be a Raider.

And look damn good doing it. Davis needs another "splash" player, and Young is it.

1. Houston - Bush

2. New Orleans - Ferguson

3. Tennessee - Leinart

4. NYJ - Mario

5. GB - Hawk

6. SF - Vernon Davis

7. Oak - Young

 
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Barring trades into the top picks, Vince Young will be a Raider.

1. Houston - Bush

2. New Orleans - Ferguson

3. Tennessee - Leinart

4. NYJ - Mario

5. GB - Hawk

6. SF - Vernon Davis

7. Oak - Young
Which means, if true, that Andrew Walter will be the starter going into this year.
 
Barring trades into the top picks, Vince Young will be a Raider.

1. Houston - Bush

2. New Orleans - Ferguson

3. Tennessee - Leinart

4. NYJ - Mario

5. GB - Hawk

6. SF - Vernon Davis

7. Oak - Young
Which means, if true, that Andrew Walter will be the starter going into this year.
Giving way to Tuiasssoooossssosooppopo in week 3 who gives way to Young in week 6.
 
Barring trades into the top picks, Vince Young will be a Raider.

1. Houston - Bush

2. New Orleans - Ferguson

3. Tennessee - Leinart

4. NYJ - Mario

5. GB - Hawk

6. SF - Vernon Davis

7. Oak - Young
Which means, if true, that Andrew Walter will be the starter going into this year.
I bet in this scenario Tuiasosopo gets the first crack at it ahead of Walter. If I'm Randy Moss, I am not please about who will be throwing to him. Young, too raw to be effective right away IMO. Tui likes to run more than pass, so he's Young less 80%. Walter is not ready to make an impact. Moss = another down year.
 

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