Obama releases 5 gitmo detainees (1 Viewer)

[quickhands]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

 

[Fennis]

I'm about a big of supporter of shutting down Gitmo as you can find, but the timing is stupid and counterproductive.

 

[squistion]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I guess this means he can't count on your vote.

 

[skol asylum]

What you don't know is he tagged them secretly and is going to drone strike their asses when they inevitably meet up with the bad guys.

 

[GoBirds]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

 

[flapgreen]

Had to look it up. Sounds more like they were transferred somewhere else than allowed to stroll out the front gate. Did I read it wrong?

 

[Rove!]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I guess this means he can't count on your vote.

Wow...is that all you ####### care about? I'm guessing yes....at some point we have to shed this tribal bull#### and start thinking for ourselves. This is why 95% of those who bother to vote will end up voting for some deplorable candidate....

 

[squistion]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I guess this means he can't count on your vote.

Wow...is that all you ####### care about? I'm guessing yes....at some point we have to shed this tribal bull#### and start thinking for ourselves. This is why 95% of those who bother to vote will end up voting for some deplorable candidate....

 

[timschochet]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I guess this means he can't count on your vote.

Wow...is that all you ####### care about? I'm guessing yes....at some point we have to shed this tribal bull#### and start thinking for ourselves. This is why 95% of those who bother to vote will end up voting for some deplorable candidate....

To me, this means not accepting this headline at face value. It means finding out the why of it before we make a judgment call.

 

[timschochet]

MIAMI (AP) — Five men who have been held for more than 13 years at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been released and sent to the United Arab Emirates, the Pentagon said Sunday.

The five Yemeni men were accepted for resettlement in the Persian Gulf nation after U.S. authorities determined they no longer posed a threat, the Defense Department said in a statement. Their release brings the Guantanamo prison population to 107.

The released men, who arrived in the UAE on Saturday, were identified as Ali Ahmad Muhammad al-Razihi, Khalid Abd-al-Jabbar Muhammad Uthman al-Qadasi, Adil Said al-Hajj Ubayd al-Busays, Sulayman Awad Bin Uqayl al-Nahdi, and Fahmi Salem Said al-Asani.

None of the men had been charged with a crime but had been detained as enemy combatants. They could not be sent to their homeland because the U.S. considers Yemen too unstable to accept prisoners from Guantanamo. These are the first prisoners accepted by the UAE for resettlement.


President Barack Obama has reduced the number of prisoners by more than half since he took office. He had sought to close the detention center but faced opposition to Congress. The administration is now seeking to move detainees to the United States amid intense opposition.

 

[GoBirds]

Why not? Anyone who belongs to the religion of peace has got to be a good guy.

From what I've read in here they are actually all great people except for 1, maybe 2 of them tops.

 

[cstu]

I'm about a big of supporter of shutting down Gitmo as you can find, but the timing is stupid and counterproductive.

Timing could be better.

 

[tommyboy]

I'm about a big of supporter of shutting down Gitmo as you can find, but the timing is stupid and counterproductive.

Not if you're Obama. His timing is perfect.

 

[tommyboy]

He also said Isis was contained the day before Paris.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/politics/obama-isis-contained-decapitated-abc-news/

 

[skol asylum]

He also said Isis was contained the day before Paris.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/politics/obama-isis-contained-decapitated-abc-news/

How much territory did ISIS capture in Paris? Stupid politically motivated connection.

 

[Fennis]

He also said Isis was contained the day before Paris.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/politics/obama-isis-contained-decapitated-abc-news/

I believe it when he says ISIS is contained in Iraq and Syria. If anything I wonder why it took so long.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Vince McMahon writes less obvious heel turns.

 

[quickhands]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I guess this means he can't count on your vote.

No I'll vote for him. What's he running for? Dog catcher?

 

[Skoo]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

 

[RBM]

Hope they were adequately water boarded in their time there.

 

[krsone21]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Tim, is that you?

 

[Skoo]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

 

[lod01]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

Can't argue with a lot of that but he needs to wake up and not only call out for the absolute destruction of the Daesh locusts but start the assault or we will find someone to run this country that will....like Trump.

 

[tommyboy]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved (not really)

Stock Market = Vastly improved WIN!

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved WIN!

Kept us safe thus far WIN!

Got us out of Iraq total failure, bad decision and having all sorts of negative consequences, ie ISIS

ACA total failure

Gay Marriage Legalized WIN!

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

 

[FUBAR]

MIAMI (AP) — Five men who have been held for more than 13 years at the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been released and sent to the United Arab Emirates, the Pentagon said Sunday.

The five Yemeni men were accepted for resettlement in the Persian Gulf nation after U.S. authorities determined they no longer posed a threat, the Defense Department said in a statement. Their release brings the Guantanamo prison population to 107.

The released men, who arrived in the UAE on Saturday, were identified as Ali Ahmad Muhammad al-Razihi, Khalid Abd-al-Jabbar Muhammad Uthman al-Qadasi, Adil Said al-Hajj Ubayd al-Busays, Sulayman Awad Bin Uqayl al-Nahdi, and Fahmi Salem Said al-Asani.

None of the men had been charged with a crime but had been detained as enemy combatants. They could not be sent to their homeland because the U.S. considers Yemen too unstable to accept prisoners from Guantanamo. These are the first prisoners accepted by the UAE for resettlement.


President Barack Obama has reduced the number of prisoners by more than half since he took office. He had sought to close the detention center but faced opposition to Congress. The administration is now seeking to move detainees to the United States amid intense opposition.

we release convicted criminals too. And these guys aren't a threat.

in all seriousness, we should not keep these guys forever.

Even as a registered Republican (I'm more libertarian but haven't changed affiliation), I'll take Obama over Bush easily.

 

[FUBAR]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

Can't argue with a lot of that but he needs to wake up and not only call out for the absolute destruction of the Daesh locusts but start the assault or we will find someone to run this country that will....like Trump.

FWIW http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/13/army-3-star-mass-resignations-if-trump-bombs-the-s-out-of-isis-video/

 

[whoknew]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

 

[Meatwad Reloaded]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

You can't be this dumb, right? The rich are richer than ever, the poor are expanding and our middle class is becoming extinct. I guess this seems good if you are in the 1%.

 

[squistion]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

One could assume that without anything presented to the contrary.

 

[Hang 10]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

 

[whoknew]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

Well, yea. In that they should have been released a long time ago.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

Can't argue with a lot of that but he needs to wake up and not only call out for the absolute destruction of the Daesh locusts but start the assault or we will find someone to run this country that will....like Trump.

what? you do realize that the US has launched the most air strikes against ISIS to date, oh wait yeah they don't post that on foxnews so maybe you don't know.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034

that lazy Obama

 

[FUBAR]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

Well, yea. In that they should have been released a long time ago.

sure. but they weren't. So what was the rush?

 

[whoknew]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

Well, yea. In that they should have been released a long time ago.

sure. but they weren't. So what was the rush?

That's kind of a weird logic. The rush is that we are imprisoning people who shouldn't be there. So we should release them ASAP.

Justice shouldn't be delayed because there are islamophobic/prejudicial/biased (?) people out there.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

 

[RBM]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

More Americans out of work than ever before.....check

More Americans on food stamps than ever before.....check

Debt has tripled under him.....Yahtzee.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

They will be very soon now.

 

[FUBAR]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

Well, yea. In that they should have been released a long time ago.

sure. but they weren't. So what was the rush?

That's kind of a weird logic. The rush is that we are imprisoning people who shouldn't be there. So we should release them ASAP.

Justice shouldn't be delayed because there are islamophobic/prejudicial/biased (?) people out there.

I'm not arguing against release. But the timing does look... questionable.

The timing looks calculated to show his support for those imprisoned. He's too intelligent, as are his advisers, to think this was just poor timing.

 

[timschochet]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

It's quite an honor to be equal to Obama in terms of convincing you.

 

[RBM]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

It's quite an honor to be equal to Obama in terms of convincing you.

In ineptitude.

I'm also hearing much of the same. Obama has angered alot of people who voted for him.

 

[the moops]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

It's quite an honor to be equal to Obama in terms of convincing you.

In ineptitude.

I'm also hearing much of the same. Obama has angered alot of people who voted for him.

Yea, I'm sure your circle of friends contains a lot of Obama voters

 

[Courtjester]

I think we can all agree that at some point if were not going to charge people, then they need to ultimately be released. These guys were detained as enemy combatants for 13 years without charges.

But I think what a lot of people are focusing on is the timing. We just saw a terrible incident in Paris and the bodies aren't even cold yet and we're releasing enemy combatants? It doesn't matter what political affiliation you are, the optics on this look bad. I mean they've been there 13 years what would one more week or two matter at this junction?

 

[timschochet]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

It's quite an honor to be equal to Obama in terms of convincing you.

In ineptitude.

I'm also hearing much of the same. Obama has angered alot of people who voted for him.

Come on now RBM, I'm sure a lot of the New Jersey Italian types you hang out with were big time Obama fans.

ETA- I see the Moops beat me to it.

 

[timschochet]

I think we can all agree that at some point if were not going to charge people, then they need to ultimately be released. These guys were detained as enemy combatants for 13 years without charges.

But I think what a lot of people are focusing on is the timing. We just saw a terrible incident in Paris and the bodies aren't even cold yet and we're releasing enemy combatants? It doesn't matter what political affiliation you are, the optics on this look bad. I mean they've been there 13 years what would one more week or two matter at this junction?

No question that the optics look bad.

But I disagree about the one to two weeks. That would have looked equally as bad. The coincidence is ugly, but the paperwork was there, so I don't see the point in delaying it. Might as well just get it over with and swallow the poor optics.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I say this jokingly "Obama again shows he loves the Muslims more than the Christians"...but really in some circles that is how it will play out. Not that we should care what those circles think.

 

[RBM]

Was a registered Republican, got tired during the Iraq war years under Bush. Changed to "No Party Affiliation". Voted for Obama (term one). Happy to say between Obama, Tim and Tobias I am going to officially register Republican again.

It's quite an honor to be equal to Obama in terms of convincing you.

In ineptitude.I'm also hearing much of the same. Obama has angered alot of people who voted for him.

Yea, I'm sure your circle of friends contains a lot of Obama voters

I know a few. My mother has never voted for a Republican believe it or not.

 

[quickhands]

This guy's timing is spectacular.

I don't get why this is bad timing. Were these guys ISIS members who helped plan the Paris attacks?

Or were they just guys who were held for 13 years with no trial, no attorney, and dubious evidence? And if its the latter, shouldn't we release them sooner rather than later, regardless of what else is going on in the world?

Or do we just want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush and say keep them all locked up? Is that the argument?

You really don't get why the timing is bad?

Well, yea. In that they should have been released a long time ago.

Ever hear the term "tone deaf" cuz you and the president have it.

 

[quickhands]

Next president shoukd have fun cleaning up his mess. What a clown.

Which mess are we talking about?

The one where he brought the unemployment rate way down or the one where he brought the stock market way up?

Fox News really has done a number on you guys. I realize you've been told otherwise on a daily basis, but history will look very favorably on Obama's presidency.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh this morning.

I realize in South Dakota that probably does sound pretty funny, at least until you look at the facts.

Unemployment = Vastly Improved

Stock Market = Vastly improved

Value of the dollar = Vastly improved

Kept us safe thus far

Got us out of Iraq

ACA

Gay Marriage Legalized

Again, I realize you may not think these are all good things or that Obama deserves credit for them all. But like it or not, the big things a President are judged on is the economy and foreign policy. While both could be better, both are also a huge improvement over the previous POTUS.

Can't argue with a lot of that but he needs to wake up and not only call out for the absolute destruction of the Daesh locusts but start the assault or we will find someone to run this country that will....like Trump.

what? you do realize that the US has launched the most air strikes against ISIS to date, oh wait yeah they don't post that on foxnews so maybe you don't know.

How many? I mean like compared to when we bombed Bagdad?