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Americans are safer under Obama than they were under Bush, Bush or Reagan. That's just a fact.
TGunz is a lot of things, but "far left" isn't one of them....that requires standing FOR something and blazing a new path. He's good with the mediocrity of the hear and now as long as his guy is at the wheel.
Anyone who doesn't put GWB at the top of a worst presidents list has an incorrect list. His entire administration from the deficit, starting wars, the economy, American citizens loss of privacy, etc. etc etc. was a freaking train wreck.
At his address today, Obama said, "We are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre." What a disgrace.
What does the ethnicity or the sexual orientation of the victims have to do with whatever point you are making?
Yeah, I'm sure tougher gun laws, including banning automatic weapons wouldn't have made a difference. Just blame Obama, it fits into your narrative.
Or never blame him for anything and praise every action he takes. Fits your narrative.
Dude, why did he specifically mention the ethnicity and sexual orientations of the victims?
Actually, find one post where I've ever praised him...? He deserves blame on other issues, but I don't see how you can pin this on him. The gunman was a US citizen from birth. Keeping Muslims out wouldn't have helped in the slightest. 'Murica! #### yeah!
I mean I suppose to the extent that liberals would expect that laws be applied without racial bias or profiling, which doesn't seem like a particularly unreasonable expectation.
He didn't say "We are to blame" - the NY Post is reporting that, but that was not in the speech I heard, nor can I can find it anywhere in any links but the Post article and they don't have a direct quote of him saying this.
Actually no, it isn't. Asking all Americans to have compassion (or pray for) for those killed and injured would be.
Thanks for reminding me that radical Islam invented terrorism. Now I hate Obama too!
You are such an ###. This is about people dying first and foremost. We have plenty of time to plan a counter-attack, though in this case, there doesn't appear to be a target does there?
Interesting. A lot of posters in this thread seem to disagree. Maybe they'll come back and clarify.
There was an implication when he said we should be more tolerant, but he was talking about being tolerant of gays, not of Islam.
Also posted in the other thread on the massacre:
Please make sure you call me out when we move past "compassion" and "prayer" and get to solving the problem. I'm sure Wayne Lapierre is ready with some constructive solutions.
Chet is posting bull#### about politicians he cannot even vote for?
Alright Munny, Chet has already checked in and admitted that he made a fool out of himself by quoting this article. Now it's your turn.
The problem is that the speaker has a (D) after his name, which means that whatever he said is not what he should have said.
He never said he'd build a wall, deport millions of people who had nothing to do with the act or call anyone a childish name. Obviously, the man has no idea of how to lead.
Quite the opposite for me GB, I lost respect for Obama today because he did say this was somehow related to ISIL, he uses that term where most say ISIS but whatever. He opened with that and talked about the LGBT community a little but not enough IMO.
I did not see that in the transcript. Did he say this afterwards, MoP? I went out at lunchtime for a quick bite and one of the local conservative talk show host was complaining that Obama called it a hate crime and refused to identify the shooter as an Islamist terrorist.
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Thanks for the link. I think Obama said the right things here, especially when he says that at the moment we still don't know for sure.
It's not that hard to get. Obama is a democrat. He could cure cancer and certain people would complain that he wasn't wearing an American flag pin on his lapel when he made the announcement.
Or, conversely, we could just praise him to the heavens day in and day out irregardless.
I think he stated the guy had pledged allegiance to ISIL (among other things he may have said to the 911 dispatcher).Ministry of Pain said:
Who is doing that?
