Obedience and the Rise of Authoritarianism (1 Viewer)

[LawFitz]

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force."

-Ayn Rand

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Some additional thought food before (and for when) you all rightfully consume your hot dogs, beers and fireworks this weekend...

https://youtu.be/zOJLGpfnX34

Happy Independence Day, my friends and neighbors.

Stay free.

 

[GordonGekko]

Excellent topic LawFitz

Something for everyone to consider is that our Founders, had they lost the Revolutionary War, would have been cast aside in human history as terrorists. Civil order can only be achieved through perspective and perspective only exists within the context of actual empathy. This is the first red flag of the current radical left - It doesn't matter if you apologize or surrender, they won't stop coming for you because there is no rehabilitation nor empathy in their minds and hearts, only an endless purge of the non pure.

The greatest betrayal of any authoritarian regime is to those who were the most complicit but without status or cannot benefit from nepotism. Those zealots ( think the radical left in today's terms) have been fooling themselves that they are immune from the "cancel list" No one is immune. Some people just have their names written a little further down.

 

[Captain Cranks]

I must have missed your concern over this topic from 2017 - 2020.

 

[pinkham13]

I must have missed your concern over this topic from 2017 - 2020.

The 3 letter agencies were in control most of that time attacking our executive’s every move. Communism sucks. How you people don’t see the writing on the wall is beyond me.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The 3 letter agencies were in control most of that time attacking our executive’s every move. Communism sucks. How you people don’t see the writing on the wall is beyond me.

You must really hate living in this country.  

 

[jon_mx]

The left is also fond of using corporations to implement fascism.  

 

[tymarsas]

If you want to stop authoritarianism, I'd recommend voting against anyone that tried to prevent the democratic transfer of power. Here's a list: https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/07/954380156/here-are-the-republicans-who-objected-to-the-electoral-college-count

 

[dozer]

If you want to stop authoritarianism, I'd recommend voting against anyone that tried to prevent the democratic transfer of power. Here's a list: https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/07/954380156/here-are-the-republicans-who-objected-to-the-electoral-college-count

Good thread, and great posting! Glad to see our Trump supporting friends come around.
 

Trump, Trumpism, and authoritarianism must be stopped for democracy to survive.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I live in Florida where the Governor respects the constitution and cares about not cutting children’s bodies parts off. The exact opposite of the satan worshipping communist left baby killers.

Awesome.  Glad you found a little safe space where you can at least avoid the Satanic pedophiles while you hate on the rest of the country.  

 

[pinkham13]

If you want to stop authoritarianism, I'd recommend voting against anyone that tried to prevent the democratic transfer of power. Here's a list: https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/07/954380156/here-are-the-republicans-who-objected-to-the-electoral-college-count

They cheated and got caught. https://freedomrockradio.co/news/langlade-county-wisconsin-joins-texas-and-maricopa-county-arizona-to-unanimously-reject-the-results-of-2020-election/  

Stop watching fake news and get a clue.
 

 

[pinkham13]

Awesome.  Glad you found a little safe space where you can at least avoid the Satanic pedophiles while you hate on the rest of the country.  

I just hate evil. Baby killers suck. https://www.christianpost.com/voices/abortion-is-satanic-worship.html

 

[moleculo]

They cheated and got caught. https://freedomrockradio.co/news/langlade-county-wisconsin-joins-texas-and-maricopa-county-arizona-to-unanimously-reject-the-results-of-2020-election/  

Stop watching fake news and get a clue.
 

Hahaha hahaha!  The Republican Party of Langlade County, WI (population 19k) rejects the 2020 election because they watched a propaganda movie.

Honestly that says more about Langlade County than anything else.

 

[tymarsas]

They cheated and got caught. https://freedomrockradio.co/news/langlade-county-wisconsin-joins-texas-and-maricopa-county-arizona-to-unanimously-reject-the-results-of-2020-election/  

Stop watching fake news and get a clue.
 

Can I get a list of non-fake news websites that I should read? I already got Freedom Rock Radio on the list (great name and motto). Thanks.

 

[pinkham13]

Hahaha hahaha!  The Republican Party of Langlade County, WI (population 19k) rejects the 2020 election because they watched a propaganda movie.

Honestly that says more about Langlade County than anything else.

Hahaha you hate people from small towns. Typical prejudiced city folk. Don’t need people from the country until something breaks or the grocery store runs out of product.

 

[moleculo]

Hahaha you hate people from small towns. Typical prejudiced city folk. Don’t need people from the country until something breaks or the grocery store runs out of product.

I'm from a small town.

 

[pinkham13]

Can I get a list of non-fake news websites that I should read? I already got Freedom Rock Radio on the list (great name and motto). Thanks.

It wouldn’t matter you have a proven inability to recognize truth.

 

[Prinefan]

The 3 letter agencies were in control most of that time attacking our executive’s every move. Communism sucks. How you people don’t see the writing on the wall is beyond me.

The wall you reference is miles past the wall we see.

 

[Prinefan]

I live in Florida where the Governor respects the constitution and cares about not cutting children’s bodies parts off. The exact opposite of the satan worshipping communist left baby killers.

Knew it was either FLA or TX.

 

[Prinefan]

They cheated and got caught. https://freedomrockradio.co/news/langlade-county-wisconsin-joins-texas-and-maricopa-county-arizona-to-unanimously-reject-the-results-of-2020-election/  

Stop watching fake news and get a clue.
 

Really funny.  That's what I was going to mention to you. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'm from a small town.

Me too-  our town is a whopping 2400 people.  

 

[dozer]

Really funny.  That's what I was going to mention to you. 

“2000 Mules” was the latest blow to the stolen 2020 Presidential Election. Massive evidence of illegal ballot trafficking and a coordinated nationwide election fraud ring was presented by True the Vote and Dinesh D’Souza.

Is this a Qanon fantasy thing that people still believe this movie presented real evidence?

I used to feel sorry for these delusional folks, but the level of denial is dangerous…

 

[dozer]

I hate authoritarianism!

Also,

I want the candidate who lost the election to be unquestioned leader!

 

[pinkham13]

I hate authoritarianism!

Also,

I want the candidate who lost the election to be unquestioned leader!

I didn’t like ole warp speeder myself but you guys worship the Trump  “vaccine”

 

[Prinefan]

“2000 Mules” was the latest blow to the stolen 2020 Presidential Election. Massive evidence of illegal ballot trafficking and a coordinated nationwide election fraud ring was presented by True the Vote and Dinesh D’Souza.

Is this a Qanon fantasy thing that people still believe this movie presented real evidence?

I used to feel sorry for these delusional folks, but the level of denial is dangerous…

Yeah, been dangerous for a while.  Everything presented by his folks gets debunked.  I do think he's losing some luster on a daily basis now.  (Actually never had a lot of luster to any real folks).  On my street (NC) there's a number of retired military (3-4) who voted for him both times but have since recognized that his way is not the Democratic way.  One even apologized a few weeks ago for arguing with me about the insurrection shortly after it happened.  Gratefully when we had our argument he didn't have any guns or spears on him.

 

[jon_mx]

Damn those Communist Fascist Satan worshipping bastards! 

Pretty much.  When they stop trying to control every aspect of free speech, I will stop calling them for what they are.   You have no love for free speech, so I get it.  

 

[pinkham13]

Yeah, been dangerous for a while.  Everything presented by his folks gets debunked.  I do think he's losing some luster on a daily basis now.  (Actually never had a lot of luster to any real folks).  On my street (NC) there's a number of retired military (3-4) who voted for him both times but have since recognized that his way is not the Democratic way.  One even apologized a few weeks ago for arguing with me about the insurrection shortly after it happened.  Gratefully when we had our argument he didn't have any guns or spears on him.

You guys are so clueless. It was entrapment all the way. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/jan-6-defense-attorney-makes-bombshell-claim-says-federal-agent-provocateurs-involved-in-entrapment-at-capitol-siege/

https://www.nationandstate.com/2022/06/29/jan-6-electronic-surveillance-unit-was-illegal-says-rep-gohmert-attorney-suggests-entrapment/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/judge-finds-jan-6-defendant-not-guilty-after-he-argued-police-let-him-through

Communist tyrants owned by China in the White House and you still have blinders on. Supporting the CCP sucks!https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chinese-elite-have-paid-some-31m-to-hunter-and-the-bidens/

 

[Prinefan]

Pretty much.  When they stop trying to control every aspect of free speech, I will stop calling them for what they are.   You have no love for free speech, so I get it.  

And yet he's (loving) and using his right to free speech.  

 

[Prinefan]

You guys are so clueless. It was entrapment all the way. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/jan-6-defense-attorney-makes-bombshell-claim-says-federal-agent-provocateurs-involved-in-entrapment-at-capitol-siege/

https://www.nationandstate.com/2022/06/29/jan-6-electronic-surveillance-unit-was-illegal-says-rep-gohmert-attorney-suggests-entrapment/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/judge-finds-jan-6-defendant-not-guilty-after-he-argued-police-let-him-through

Communist tyrants owned by China in the White House and you still have blinders on. Supporting the CCP sucks!https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chinese-elite-have-paid-some-31m-to-hunter-and-the-bidens/

Back on ignore.

 

[pinkham13]

Back on ignore.

Adults can have conversations with people who have views backed up by facts. Keeping your head in the sand as the communists take over isn’t helping the nation get back on track. The Biden’s are owned by China lock stock and barrel. Too bad many of you in here are allergic to the truth. https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chinese-elite-have-paid-some-31m-to-hunter-and-the-bidens/

 

[jon_mx]

And yet he's (loving) and using his right to free speech.  

Using one's own free speech is not impressive.  Allowing for others you disagree with to exercise their free speech is.  I am easily the most reported, attacked, suspended poster on this forum.  The leftist fascist use every tool possible to shut the other side up.  Shouting down, violent intimidation, deplatforming, protesting, fining, firing, imprisonment.  That is not how you respect free speech.  

 

[timschochet]

I'm from a small town.

Well good you you, Mellencamp. 

 

[timschochet]

Using one's own free speech is not impressive.  Allowing for others you disagree with to exercise their free speech is.  I am easily the most reported, attacked, suspended poster on this forum.  The leftist fascist use every tool possible to shut the other side up.  Shouting down, violent intimidation, deplatforming, protesting, fining, firing, imprisonment.  That is not how you respect free speech.  

Ehh, I’m pretty sure I get reported and attacked as much as you do. As far as suspended I don’t know, but I’ve deserved all of the suspensions I’ve received and I suspect you have as well, Stop playing the victim all the time. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

Adults can have conversations with people who have views backed up by facts. Keeping your head in the sand as the communists take over isn’t helping the nation get back on track. The Biden’s are owned by China lock stock and barrel. Too bad many of you in here are allergic to the truth. https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chinese-elite-have-paid-some-31m-to-hunter-and-the-bidens/

Many adults can and do have conversations in here.   Right here in your post you are saying only people who agree with have the facts and truth, and that doesn't even include the immediate jump to conclusions that you make about other posters.  

It's amusing that the most close minded people on the boards complain about the lack of conversation while 90% of the board seems to be able to have many conversations in these same threads around them.

 

[dozer]

Yeah, been dangerous for a while.  Everything presented by his folks gets debunked.  I do think he's losing some luster on a daily basis now.  (Actually never had a lot of luster to any real folks).  On my street (NC) there's a number of retired military (3-4) who voted for him both times but have since recognized that his way is not the Democratic way.  One even apologized a few weeks ago for arguing with me about the insurrection shortly after it happened.  Gratefully when we had our argument he didn't have any guns or spears on him.

Yeah man, I’ve lost friends and had family relationships damaged because of The Big Lie, and all the fallout as it’s clearly proven that the only “election stealing” has been by Trump sycophants.

Trumpism has been tragic for our county.

 

[dozer]

Stop playing the victim all the time. 

Don’t get your hopes up…

 

[timschochet]

Many adults can and do have conversations in here.   Right here in your post you are saying only people who agree with have the facts and truth, and that doesn't even include the immediate jump to conclusions that you make about other posters.  

It's amusing that the most close minded people on the boards complain about the lack of conversation while 90% of the board seems to be able to have many conversations in these same threads around them.

You’re attempting to educate a guy who uses phrases like “Satan worshipping Communist Fascist baby-killers” about adult conversations. I don’t think you will get very far. 

 

[pinkham13]

Many adults can and do have conversations in here.   Right here in your post you are saying only people who agree with have the facts and truth, and that doesn't even include the immediate jump to conclusions that you make about other posters.  

It's amusing that the most close minded people on the boards complain about the lack of conversation while 90% of the board seems to be able to have many conversations in these same threads around them.

I am not the one putting people on ignore. I never have. The satanists agree with your opinions on abortion though so you are in great company  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/6/satanists-sue-for-religious-right-to-ritual-aborti/

 

[Zow]

Many adults can and do have conversations in here.   Right here in your post you are saying only people who agree with have the facts and truth, and that doesn't even include the immediate jump to conclusions that you make about other posters.  

It's amusing that the most close minded people on the boards complain about the lack of conversation while 90% of the board seems to be able to have many conversations in these same threads around them.

I was typing out a post to say essentially what you did here. But you’ve said it better than I was going to say it. 

 

[Zow]

I am not the one putting people on ignore. I never have. The satanists agree with your opinions on abortion though so you are in great company  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/6/satanists-sue-for-religious-right-to-ritual-aborti/

You really think you can have a meaningful adult conversation by calling people who are pro-choice “satanic baby-killers”?

 

[pinkham13]

Yeah man, I’ve lost friends had family relationships damaged because of The Big Lie, and all the fallout as it’s clearly proven that the only “election stealing” has been by Trump sycophants.

Trumpism has been tragic for our county.

We would have voted for anyone who said they would stop you globalists. He didn’t drain the swamp they fought him every step. In the end he she showed his true colors with warp speed and funding Gavi. He is controlled opposition nothing more.

 

[roadkill1292]

I knew it was the dirty commie Antifas all along.

 

[sho nuff]

Hahaha hahaha!  The Republican Party of Langlade County, WI (population 19k) rejects the 2020 election because they watched a propaganda movie.

Honestly that says more about Langlade County than anything else.

Complains about fake news…posts nothing but links to conspiracy sites…this one about a county that believed in actual fake news to conclude an election was cheated.

But he is showing the point a bit…the authoritarian behavior of someone who proudly stated only he could be believed and trusted.  Anything negative about him was fake news.   And inspired millions to question anything not based on the merits of the story…but based on if it was nice to him.

 

[pinkham13]

You really think you can have a meaningful adult conversation by calling people who are pro-choice “satanic baby-killers”?

You think killing babies is inclusive? Why not just take the pill use a condom or close your legs. 60 million dead since Row isn’t womens health. It’s killing for convenience because someone was to lazy to use contraceptives. Why would anyone think pulling a child limb from limb and crushing their heads isn’t Satanic? How disgustinghttps://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/6/satanists-sue-for-religious-right-to-ritual-aborti/

 

[KarmaPolice]

I am not the one putting people on ignore. I never have. The satanists agree with your opinions on abortion though so you are in great company  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/6/satanists-sue-for-religious-right-to-ritual-aborti/

I've found out over the years a lot of pedophiles and abusers agree with your views on religion as well.  Doesn't take away from the group as a whole for you, does it? 

I would also be shocked if you could accurately post what my opinions on abortion are.  

 

[pinkham13]

Complains about fake news…posts nothing but links to conspiracy sites…this one about a county that believed in actual fake news to conclude an election was cheated.

But he is showing the point a bit…the authoritarian behavior of someone who proudly stated only he could be believed and trusted.  Anything negative about him was fake news.   And inspired millions to question anything not based on the merits of the story…but based on if it was nice to him.

Haha keep supporting your communist Biden crime family. Agenda 2030 is openly planned and you still think it’s a qanon thing. So indoctrinated. 

 

[sho nuff]

Haha keep supporting your communist Biden crime family. Agenda 2030 is openly planned and you still think it’s a qanon thing. So indoctrinated. 

You seem to be more about authoritarian and obedience than anyone.  We can iy believe your sources and so on.

But your conspiracy theories and wild accusations fall flat every time.  They lack facts and truth. 
It is not me who is indoctrinated.

 

[pinkham13]

I've found out over the years a lot of pedophiles and abusers agree with your views on religion as well.  Doesn't take away from the group as a whole for you, does it? 

I would also be shocked if you could accurately post what my opinions on abortion are.  

 They don’t agree with my views on anything if they are pedophiles. The Bible does not support it either. Creepy Joes daughter says he is probably more than just a sniffer/groper of children.

 

[pinkham13]

I've found out over the years a lot of pedophiles and abusers agree with your views on religion as well.  Doesn't take away from the group as a whole for you, does it? 

I would also be shocked if you could accurately post what my opinions on abortion are.  

Pedophiles don’t agree with me or the Bible on anything. You support Roe right? Of course you do. Creepy Joes daughter thinks he inappropriatelyshowered with her as a child and has been a documented groper. But you support him all the way? Gross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-PkGl3-Tec

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Something for everyone to consider is that our Founders, had they lost the Revolutionary War, would have been cast aside in human history as terrorists. Civil order can only be achieved through perspective and perspective only exists within the context of actual empathy. This is the first red flag of the current radical left - It doesn't matter if you apologize or surrender, they won't stop coming for you because there is no rehabilitation nor empathy in their minds and hearts, only an endless purge of the non pure.

I want to congratulate you for the purity of your rhetoric and for your eloquence.  I remain convinced that your perspective is frightening and delusional.  Enjoy your day.

 

[Prinefan]

Using one's own free speech is not impressive.  Allowing for others you disagree with to exercise their free speech is.  I am easily the most reported, attacked, suspended poster on this forum.  The leftist fascist use every tool possible to shut the other side up.  Shouting down, violent intimidation, deplatforming, protesting, fining, firing, imprisonment.  That is not how you respect free speech.  

Curious...  When were you imprisoned by the leftist fascists for exercising your free speech?  Strictly asking as a leftist fascist.  Seems like we all appreciate it.