Odd League Format - Roster Strategy (1 Viewer)

[Grond]

I'm in a dynasty league with an odd format:

* Start any 7 players, no matter what position (offensive positions only: QB/RB/WR/TE/K)

* The annual draft is rookies-only (with one caveat, next item)

* If a player is dropped, he can only be picked up during the annual draft

* Trading can only be done in the offseason. Current players or picks in the upcoming draft

* Scoring is fairly standard. No PPR, point milestones for 50/75/100 receiving/rushing, 200/250/300 for passing. 3/passing TD, 6/rushing or receiving TD

* Rosters are 20 deep

* Eight team league

With the requirement to draft players as rookies and only have them active if they're rostered, plenty of quality players have slipped through the cracks over the years: Priest, Warner, Tiki Barber (dropped after his rookie season), etc.

The starting seven from the four top teams of 2005 (assume all eight teams have mediocre-to-top notch players for their starting seven):

Team 1

QB Harrington

RB S. Alexander

RB Tomlinson

RB R. Brown

WR T. Holt

WR R. Moss

WR Lee Evans

(bench depth: 2 players)

Team 2

QB C. Palmer

QB Leftwich

RB Lamont Jordan

RB Cadillac

WR S. Moss

K Josh Brown

K Kaeding

(bench depth: 3 players)

Team 3

QB Manning

QB Rothlesberger

RB S. Jackson

WR Harrison

K Rackers

K Lindell

K Dawson

(bench depth: 8 players)

Team 4

QB Kerry Collins

QB McNabb

RB L. Johnson

RB C. Martin

WR Chris Chambers

WR T. Owens

WR Reggie Wayne

(bench depth: 1 players)

Last year's order of finish: Team 2, Team 3, Team 1, Team 4.

Obviously, an Alexander/Larry J/Tomlinson/Manning/Fitz type team would be the best, but not putting faces to names, what would be the best starting seven positions.

This isn't an AC WDIS or WDID; what you would consider the theoretical ideal starting seven positions in leagues with open position requirements?

Thoughts?

 

[Musesboy]

I'm in a dynasty league with an odd format:

* Start any 7 players, no matter what position (offensive positions only: QB/RB/WR/TE/K)

* The annual draft is rookies-only (with one caveat, next item)

* If a player is dropped, he can only be picked up during the annual draft

* Trading can only be done in the offseason. Current players or picks in the upcoming draft

* Scoring is fairly standard. No PPR, point milestones for 50/75/100 receiving/rushing, 200/250/300 for passing. 3/passing TD, 6/rushing or receiving TD

* Rosters are 20 deep

* Eight team league

With the requirement to draft players as rookies and only have them active if they're rostered, plenty of quality players have slipped through the cracks over the years: Priest, Warner, Tiki Barber (dropped after his rookie season), etc.

The starting seven from the four top teams of 2005 (assume all eight teams have mediocre-to-top notch players for their starting seven):

Team 1

QB Harrington

RB S. Alexander

RB Tomlinson

RB R. Brown

WR T. Holt

WR R. Moss

WR Lee Evans

(bench depth: 2 players)

Team 2

QB C. Palmer

QB Leftwich

RB Lamont Jordan

RB Cadillac

WR S. Moss

K Josh Brown

K Kaeding

(bench depth: 3 players)

Team 3

QB Manning

QB Rothlesberger

RB S. Jackson

WR Harrison

K Rackers

K Lindell

K Dawson

(bench depth: 8 players)

Team 4

QB Kerry Collins

QB McNabb

RB L. Johnson

RB C. Martin

WR Chris Chambers

WR T. Owens

WR Reggie Wayne

(bench depth: 1 players)

Last year's order of finish: Team 2, Team 3, Team 1, Team 4.

Obviously, an Alexander/Larry J/Tomlinson/Manning/Fitz type team would be the best, but not putting faces to names, what would be the best starting seven positions.

This isn't an AC WDIS or WDID; what you would consider the theoretical ideal starting seven positions in leagues with open position requirements?

Thoughts?

The theoretical ideal would be to start one of the elite few RBs if you have one and as many QBs as possible as they score the most points of any position on average, and have longer careers.

 

[tomarken]

The theoretical ideal would be to start one of the elite few RBs if you have one and as many QBs as possible as they score the most points of any position on average.

I totally agree. In your format you're not looking for value so much as just points. In most leagues RB's are valued higher than QB's, even though QB's score more points. In your league, the fact that QB's score more points is what makes them more valuable.Quick question - do QB's get points for passing yards under 200, or do they get zero unless they pass the 200/250/300 marks?

If you can grab a top RB that would definitely help, but think about this: Just glancing quickly at David Dodds's projections, Alex Smith (QB SF) should average the same amount of points per game as Ronnie Brown. You might have to tweak those to fit your scoring system, but you get the idea...

 

[tomarken]

The starting seven from the four top teams of 2005 (assume all eight teams have mediocre-to-top notch players for their starting seven):

Team 1

QB Harrington

RB S. Alexander

RB Tomlinson

RB R. Brown

WR T. Holt

WR R. Moss

WR Lee Evans

(bench depth: 2 players)

Team 2

QB C. Palmer

QB Leftwich

RB Lamont Jordan

RB Cadillac

WR S. Moss

K Josh Brown

K Kaeding

(bench depth: 3 players)

Team 3

QB Manning

QB Rothlesberger

RB S. Jackson

WR Harrison

K Rackers

K Lindell

K Dawson

(bench depth: 8 players)

Team 4

QB Kerry Collins

QB McNabb

RB L. Johnson

RB C. Martin

WR Chris Chambers

WR T. Owens

WR Reggie Wayne

(bench depth: 1 players)

Last year's order of finish: Team 2, Team 3, Team 1, Team 4.

I wasn't even really paying attention to this part of your post, but I think it helps illustrate the point (bold emphasis added).Interesting with the kickers on the top two teams, also, although that can be kind of hit-or-miss. QB's will still outscore K's every week.

 

[Grond]

I totally agree. In your format you're not looking for value so much as just points. In most leagues RB's are valued higher than QB's, even though QB's score more points. In your league, the fact that QB's score more points is what makes them more valuable.Quick question - do QB's get points for passing yards under 200, or do they get zero unless they pass the 200/250/300 marks?

200 is the basement for QB passing. Points are incrimented for every 50 above 200 for passing or 25 above 50 yards for receiving/rushing. Thus, 125 yards receiving is 4 points.The strategy I've used for years is K and QB are equally as valuable over time. PK's have a longer average shelf life with a lower points per year ceiling, plus they usually contribute right away while most QB are dead weight until roughly their third season.With a limited number of roster spots, development time is a key factor, I think. I've given up on drafting *any* WR unless great value drops to me (Fitz @ 1.8 in 2004, example)