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Oddsmaker Week 3 (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

Footballguy
Week 3 is here already. We took a big jump in people that joined the Oddsmaker thread this past week. This thread is actually an anti-betting thread if you have not figure it out already. We will see close to the same percentages as we did last week. I do the thread a little tongue and cheek but you are going to find that very few of our posters are going to be able to stay over 50% for any length or period of time. And any service that claims that they are 80% ATS or 10-1 on their locks of the year are for the most part liars! Don’t believe them and for sure don’t give them your money.

So far I have offered a little insight into the weekend games but this week I will focus on some stats that I think are quite important and those are the rushing yds allowed by the defenses and the ypc allowed as well. Sometimes you see a rushing defense that allows 100+ yds on the ground but only 3.1 ypc, and that’s the sign of a pretty good run defense. Other times you might see a team that only gives up 70 yards on the ground but 4.5 ypc, so the numbers can be deceiving sometimes. Let’s jump to the games and I will post the results after as well.

Jax at NYJETS (-2.5) (35): The Jets are allowing 5.1 ypc on the ground and Jax is avg 123 rushing and 4.5 ypc on offense. If the Jags simply run the ball and do it consistently they have a great shot to win the game. The Jags rush defense is a little suspect but the Jets only manage 2.7 ypc on offense! Add that CuMart is injured and I have a hard time seeing how the Jets are going to win this game. Take the Jags and the points.

JAX 20…NYJets 16

Tennessee at ST.LOUIS (-6.5) (46): The Rams are only giving up 58 yds rushing and Tennessee has 2 RB that are not really seizing the starting role. The Rams will pass at will in their home opener.

St. Louis 31…Tennessee 20

Oakland at PHILLY (-8) (46.5): This game could be a little closer than some might think. Philly is vulnerable a bit on the ground although SF could never exploit that on Sunday. Oakland is only giving up 3 ypc however Philly does not rush the ball all that much so it sort of makes a non factor. I probably pass on the game.

Philly 27….Oakland 21

Cincinnati (-3) at CHICAGO (39): The Bengals are rushing for 157 and are close to the top of the league. The fact they can pass opens those rushing lanes for the talented RB in their stable. Chicago was impressive last week in their opener however they haven’t seen an offense like the one that will take the field on Sunday. Cinci is 2-0 ATS this season. The Bengals are only giving up 86 yds rushing but they are yielding 5.4 ypc…that’s awful! Chicago is going to run all day on Sunday…and I think they can pull the upset here by shortening the game.

Chicago 21…Cincinnati 20

New Orleans at MINNESOTA (-4) (44): People are still betting on the Vikes? Apparently so. The Vikes rush defense is putrid right now giving up 4.5 ypc and 156 yds per game. I guess teams want to watch CPep sitting on the bench and are controlling the clock…smart. The Saints are avg 55 yds on the ground right now…that’s not very good. My gut says the Saints will win on Sunday but I have no stats to support this so I pass the game.

NO 26…Minnesota 23

Carolina (-3.5) at MIAMI (36.5): Both teams are allowing around 70-80 on the ground and 3.o ypc on defense…expect LOW SCORING imo. They both run between 110-120 yds per game on offense. Miami should really be favored as the home team. Take Miami and the points or pass the game. Miami did play OK last week and were down only 10-7 going into the 4th with the Jets. They did not fall nearly as bad as teams like the Niners.

Miami 16….Carolina 13

Cleveland at INDY (-13.5) (47): Believe it or not the Colts are giving up almost 4.6 ypc…teams need to try and keep running on them. I think the Colts have a great pass rush and a better secondary than many think so teams eventually are going to just lineup and run right at them…Cleveland isn’t one of them though.

INDY 38…Cleveland 14

Atlanta at BUFFALO: OFF THE BOARD

Tampa Bay (-3.5) at GREEN BAY (38): The Bucs have enough thru the air to make Green Bay loosen up on the ground. The Pack are giving up an unbelievable 2.9 ypc and only 78 yds per game. I attribute that to mostly the fact teams want to pass on them. Cleveland had no problem doing it. The Bucs are leading the NFC with 168 yds per game on the ground…and they look good doing it. I thought their OL was supposed to be horrendous this year. If the Bucs were playing at home they might be 7 point favorites. For right now you have to respect their defense which allows only 40 yds on the ground per game. They shutdown Willis McGahee completely. And their pass defense is among the best too.

Tampa Bay 24…Green Bay 10

Arizona at SEATTLE (-6.5) (42): The Cards cannot run the ball and Seattle can. The Seahawks are avg 4.9 ypc and the Cardinals are giving 4.9 ypc from their defense. I expect this to be a blowout for Seattle.

Seattle 37…Arizona 14

New England at PITTSBURGH (-3) (42): Usually I just say how much I’ll enjoy watching it and pass…however, the Pats seem unable to run the ball right now. 2.4 ypc! YUCK! The Steelers however are giving almost 4.3 ypc…that’s right, the AMAZING STEELER DEFENSE! I think I’ll pass but I do expect Pittsburgh to try and seek revenge for last year.

Pittsburgh 20…New England 17

Dallas (-6.5) at San Fran (40.5): Pass

Dallas 28…San Fran 21

NYGiants at SAN DIEGO (-6) (42.5): The Bolts are only giving up 3.5 ypc on the ground even thought they are giving up over 100 per game. The Giants have not given up much rushing at all and I expect them to cover even if they do not win the game. Why is SD favored by 6? I might have to walk thru that trapdoor.

San Diego 16…NY Giants 14

KC at DENVER (-2.5) (48): Wow…the Chiefs are the dogs here? KC is giving up only 64 yds on the ground and Denver has been mustering 87 yds on offense, rushing. KC has racked an avg of 161 per week and I think Oakland was a little better at stopping the run than people think…I can’t find a reason not to like the Chiefs on Monday Night…

KC 27…Denver 17

Here are the results from last week. Repeaters will have their results in parentheses however I want to point out that many folks declined to try again…I understand…it’s tough to hang yourself out there in front of the entire FBG community. Also many people took the SD-Den game and since the line was 3 I counted both sides as losses as I am not keeping track of pushes…they’re losses on most tickets in the gambling world anyways.

3-0 :clap:

Angry Beavers (4-2)…way to rebound

CYUNVme

Dhamon Shadowhawk

Shomethemoney

Winning IS Everything

8% of the predictors got a perfect 3-0

2-1

MOP (4-2)

4xChamps (4-2)

Abrecher

Bass N Brew (5-1)

Bloom (5-1)

Boot to the Head

Coachg-ride

Dude

Isotopes (4-2)

Jeremyx13

JWVDCW (3-3)

Kclien (4-2)

Ko-Jack

Leo2228

Marklot

NapoleanD (3-3)

Napolean Dynamite

Oaktown

Pimpin Aint Easy

RobertPedro22

RumForlt

Rzrback77 (3-3)

Steelers4Life (4-2)

Zigg

24 out of 63 made it to 66% ATS this week. That’s 38% of the FBG posters which is actually pretty good. Had these been played as parlays however they would have all lost.

1-2

Abiding Dude

Alonso De Cordoba (2-4)

Bankerguy (2-4)

Chase Stuart

Chihawk

Fatness

Gamblor (2-4)

Gigantor (2-4)

Hamster13

Homer J Simpson (3-3)

Hutchins929

IanTucker

Iwannabeacowboy!

J3r3m3y (2-4)

Jpeace121

Mandersen1 (2-4)

Mapmaker (1-5)

Norseman

Packer7 (3-3)

Pizzatyme

Raidersfan

Reg

Scoobus

SuperWade2

Tackling Dummies

Tecumseh (2-4)

Unlucky

Wannabee

And finally our 0-3 group. :bag:

Benherover00

David Yudkin (0-6)…please keep posting…if you can keep going 0-3 we may have something here.

Kirby

Makwaloon (2-4)…rough week

Urinal Mint (0-6)…see Yudkin…you two may need your own talk show.

Wheelhouse (1-5)…much better at Dynasty League Football

Disqualified because of time deadline or edited the spreads I put up…Fenwah and everyone that posted after #79…no biggie…I am going to extend the deadline this week a few hours.

My top 3 will be posted b4 the 8:00PM Deadline Friday Night. I am extending the deadline from 3:00 till 8:00 so that should help everyone. Have fun with this and remember...always protect your unit!

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4-0 so far against Vegas! I took Pitt -3.5/Houston & KC-1.5/OAK. this past Sun. Not bragging, just wondering when the wheels will run off, LOLSEATTLE-6.5/Arizona-----Seattle is a better team then they have showed anyone this year so far, with lots of weapons on offense, & a fair defense, along with playing at home. Arizona may improve before the year is out, but they won't do it this weekend.KC+2.5/Denver-----You always gotta be wary of Denver at home, but Elway is long gone, Shanahan is doin the iny, miny, miney, moe thing with the runnin backs, & their best cover man isn't 100%. KC seems to have a better defense, & a two-headed monster running game on offense. I love getting KC & points.INDY-13.5/Cleveland-----Boy! Isure wish I'd pulled the trigger quicker & grabbed the Indy defense for my fantasy team! The scary thing is, I think they're gonna get a lot better! Dilfer won't have a lot of time to throw, & the Cleveland running game won't be much good cause they will be playin catch-up all day. I hate giving this many points, but I have a feeling the Indy offensive machine goes into overdrive in this one.

 
Keep in mind - I'm 1-5 so far. :X The bad part is, you can't think the opposite of my picks, because the law of averages says I should improve on my record very soon. Will it be this week??? Who knows?!?! :lmao: Miami +3.5KC +2.5CIN -3

 
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5 Members: Ministry of Pain, Angry Beavers, Dhamon ShadowHawk, Scottish Rebel, Bankerguy

Dhamon, you had an interesting post last week as you seemed to just wing it but went 3-0. I would like to see a little analysis from your picks this week, I'm interested so please share, thanks and good luck.

 
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Can someone let me know the lines on the NE/Pitt game.

TIA.
Done...sorry bankerguy, good luck...be careful of that Pittsburgh game.
Agreed.....it's a pass game for me.I still like to make a selection on all games to track my success rate. I am trying to come with a set of rules to help with the pick I play.

My overall picks are fine (Although not last week) I just have struggles choosing the right games.

Thanks for updating :thumbup:

 
three faves this week:stl -6.5 (a system play - see gambling thread)sd -5.5 - NYG travel x-country after winning on monday night; no way sd starts 0-3and ..........seattle -6.5 - just because arz is very susceptible to the run; - i am not crazy about this game but ya gotta pick three

 
GB +3.5Second home game in a row. They were favored last week vs Cleveland and lost. They are underdogs this week to TB at Lambeu. I think they show their fans something this week and play alot closer game than many think. The line started at +2.5 and has now moved to +3.5. It wouldn't surprise me to see it move further in that direction as bettors are hanging GB out to dry. The contrarian play is GB for sure.

 
Yudkin and myself know how to pick 'em. Time to get streaky the other direction.

Who I like this week:

KC +2.5 @ DEN - I think KC and SD are very similar teams (strong rush, all-world TE, above average defense, weak WRs). I just don't think Denver sneaks out this week with the late FG winner.

NYG +6 @ SD - I think the Chargers win, but the margin will be only 3 or 4.

IND -13.5 vs. CLE - Do the Browns have the defensive line to pressure Manning and allow 7-8 into coverage?

 
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MOP, I have that I was 2-1 last week. I was 2-1 in week 1 so that should make me 4-2. Below was my post from week 2. NE lost, St. Louis won, and KC and Oakland stayed below 53.5 points. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I should be 4-2. ThanksNew England (-3) at CAROLINA (43) - I'll take NE in this matchup. It's a road game and Carolina is coming off a loss, but with Jenkins going down I think the Panthers D will not be as good. I like the Pats to win 24-13.St Louis at Arizona (Pk'Em) (44.5) - I'll take St. Louis here. It's a virtual no-brainer. No way does St. Louis lose this one. It's an MnMer. St. Louis will win 35-20. They'll be extra angry after losing to San Fran.KC (-1.5) at OAKLAND (53.5) - I'll take neither team here, but I'll go with the over/under 53.5 and take the under. It looks, on paper like a shoot out, but they don't play games on paper. KC will score probably 28 points with Oakland holding at 21 or 24. Shoot-outs like this usually don't materialize on Sunday. Love the under.

 
New Orleans over Min (Taking the 4 points, brooks seems to be on)Over 36.5 Carolina at Miami (hopefully offenses will get that)Under 48 KC at Denver (pure guess)

 
Sorry I missed last week after going 3-0 in Week 1. Want to go ahead and get my picks in for Week 3. Really like this week's card, and I feel real good about these three.

St Louis-6.5 St Louis is a different team at home on their turf. Tennessee got scorched through the air against Big Ben in Week 1 and I expect more of the same from Bulger in this matchup. I don't feel that the Titans have the offensive personnel to keep up in this one. Rams 34 Titans 20[/b]

Seattle-6.5 Seattle should be able to pound the ball at the Cards. Another matchup where the opposing team won't have enough offense to stay within the number. And another home team laying less than a TD. I'll take it. Hawks 27 Cards 16

Indianapolis-13.5 The Colts have yet to hit their stride offensively as they have played two outstanding defenses in Baltimore and Jacksonville. Well, Cleveland is no where near these two. The Colts should have a field day against this defense and Cleveland's passing game will not enjoy the same type of game they had against Green Bay. Cleveland does not have the personnel to exploit Indy's one weakness, run defense. Plus I have a feeling they will be passing a little more once they are down 14-17 points. BLOWOUT!!! Colts 38 Browns 13

 
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MOP, I have that I was 2-1 last week. I was 2-1 in week 1 so that should make me 4-2. Below was my post from week 2. NE lost, St. Louis won, and KC and Oakland stayed below 53.5 points. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I should be 4-2.

Thanks

New England (-3) at CAROLINA (43) - I'll take NE in this matchup. It's a road game and Carolina is coming off a loss, but with Jenkins going down I think the Panthers D will not be as good. I like the Pats to win 24-13.

St Louis at Arizona (Pk'Em) (44.5) - I'll take St. Louis here. It's a virtual no-brainer. No way does St. Louis lose this one. It's an MnMer. St. Louis will win 35-20. They'll be extra angry after losing to San Fran.

KC (-1.5) at OAKLAND (53.5) - I'll take neither team here, but I'll go with the over/under 53.5 and take the under. It looks, on paper like a shoot out, but they don't play games on paper. KC will score probably 28 points with Oakland holding at 21 or 24. Shoot-outs like this usually don't materialize on Sunday. Love the under.
I'll check it tonight. 63 legal entries last week and a few swashbucklers...hard to keep track of everyone...doing my best. I will check it and make corrections if that was the case...sorry.
 
Sorry I missed last week after going 3-0 in Week 1. Want to go ahead and get my picks in for Week 3. Really like this week's card, and I feel real good about these three.

St Louis-6.5 St Louis is a different team at home on their turf. Tennessee got scorched through the air against Big Ben in Week 1 and I expect more of the same from Bulger in this matchup. I don't feel that the Titans have the offensive personnel to keep up in this one. Rams 34 Titans 20[/b]

Seattle-6.5 Seattle should be able to pound the ball at the Cards. Another matchup where the opposing team won't have enough offense to stay within the number. And another home team laying less than a TD. I'll take it. Hawks 27 Cards 16

Indianapolis-13.5 The Colts have yet to hit their stride offensively as they have played two outstanding defenses in Baltimore and Jacksonville. Well, Cleveland is no where near these two. The Colts should have a field day against this defense and Cleveland's passing game will not enjoy the same type of game they had against Green Bay. Cleveland does not have the personnel to exploit Indy's one weakness, run defense. Plus I have a feeling they will be passing a little more once they are down 14-17 points. BLOWOUT!!! Colts 38 Browns 13
Interesting...I haven't revealed my top3 but these are close to them. Great stuff Clark!
 
I guess I missed the deadline last wk, its a shame since i went 2-1, but I'll consider it a moral victory. I like 2 games this wkNO +4KC +2.5My third game is Indy -13.5

 
Here are my 3 picks this week. Not doing so hot with spread (5-11) last week :eek: . Sticking to Over/Under's 20-12 this year.Sorry not time for commentary this week...although after posting a 2-4 record for this constest, I'm sure no one cares what I have to say. I wouldn't. Jac/NYJ (35) I'll take the UNDER.Ari/Sea (42) OVERNYG/SD (42.5) UNDERGood luck all.

 
MOP, I have that I was 2-1 last week.  I was 2-1 in week 1 so that should make me 4-2.  Below was my post from week 2.  NE lost, St. Louis won, and KC and Oakland stayed below 53.5 points.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I should be 4-2. 

Thanks

New England (-3) at CAROLINA (43) - I'll take NE in this matchup. It's a road game and Carolina is coming off a loss, but with Jenkins going down I think the Panthers D will not be as good. I like the Pats to win 24-13.

St Louis at Arizona (Pk'Em) (44.5) - I'll take St. Louis here. It's a virtual no-brainer. No way does St. Louis lose this one. It's an MnMer. St. Louis will win 35-20. They'll be extra angry after losing to San Fran.

KC (-1.5) at OAKLAND (53.5) - I'll take neither team here, but I'll go with the over/under 53.5 and take the under. It looks, on paper like a shoot out, but they don't play games on paper. KC will score probably 28 points with Oakland holding at 21 or 24. Shoot-outs like this usually don't materialize on Sunday. Love the under.
I'll check it tonight. 63 legal entries last week and a few swashbucklers...hard to keep track of everyone...doing my best. I will check it and make corrections if that was the case...sorry.
No Problem man. Just wanted to verify. Thanks for doing this it's really fun. I don't actually bet on games, but it's fun to see what I could do.
 
KC +2.5 seems like taking candy from a baby.........I am 2-4 though........I like SD -6. They're better than they've looked so far.I also like DAL -6 1/2. I think the Boys are a playoff team.KC(+2.5), SD(-6), Dal(-6.5)

 
Ok, this is my first week. I've quickly browsed this thread, and I notice a lot of people taking St. Louis. I personally don't want a repeat of Week 1, where I and many others in my Survivor league took the Rams, and we're now eliminated. Fool me once ...My picks.Jax +2.5 Indy -13.5 KC +2.5

 
St. Louis -6 1/2

Minny - 4(I think)

San Diego -6
Intertops has Minny at -3 1/2 and the Chargers at -5 1/2.Which leads me to my question...are you basing these on the spreads at game time, or at the time we enter them?
Going back to week 1. I am posting the lines from Vegasinsider, they post for the major sportsbooks. What I post at the time of the thread is what the lines are...I can't keep changing the lines and keep track...so what I put in post #1...is THE WORD! :D

 
KC +2.5 seems like taking candy from a baby.........I am 2-4 though........

I like SD -6. They're better than they've looked so far.

I also like DAL -6 1/2. I think the Boys are a playoff team.

KC(+2.5), SD(-6), Dal(-6.5)
I hav refrained from challenging anyone but I have to ask...with all the great games on board...why why why would you mess with the Cowboys/49ers.
 
SD: Not really scientific, I just don't believe in Eli, and the Chargers will not let Tiki beat them.Cleve: Too many points for an NFL game. Plus, Cleveland's short passing game and ability to shorten the game will keep it reasonable.Seattle: AZ blows.

 
Billy Ball is going to start playing along.. I will go 3-0 this weekI like a followsSeattleKC Cincy ( this is my five star delux play) Bet as much as your willing to lose on this game, but I don't recon you will lose.

 

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