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2 more failed tests?PFT speculated earlier today that he might NEVER play again
I read that but there was nothing with any meat in it at all about "ever playing again" part. There are lots of people buzzing that he's done for the year though.PFT speculated earlier today that he might NEVER play again
Absolutely. I still remember when Lewis went in with guns blazing and got rid of Dillon and Spikes because they weren't "onboard" with him and weren't "team players." Sounds like Lewis has done a tremendous job of bringing in guys that are solid character guys and will buy into the team concept. Good job Marvin. I bet you're not sorry at all that Spikes is no longer a Bengal.That's weird. I was convinced Marvin Lewis had a special knack for getting turds to fly straight.
This is the result when your team has zero standards.
All of these rumors are unsubstantiated. There have been "off-the-record" sources that have reported anything from he "missed a couple tests" to "he's on meth and lost 40lbs and will never play again".Bengal beat writer Mark Curnutte (see July 28 entry) has reported that Thurman is at 240 pounds. I've been holding out hope that the drug rehab rumors were only rumors with the recent talk that Thurman could (and likely would) participate in camp. His absence and the flavor of Marvin Lewis' comments are certainly cause for concern.
When I first read about him getting suspended, I was kind of happy because i have pollack but after seeing that, i feel kind of bad about it now. Meth is some nasty stuff. A family member just got caught with that stuff a few months back. Using and dealing. Lost her kids & house. Completely lost everything. I hope to god he's not on that stuff.
although i wish that emoticon didn't have a smile. just a simple nodding "yes" would be good.
Brian Simmons is currently assuming the MLB gig, but you're right, Johnson will assume a starting job as the WLB.If Ahmad Brooks proves himself anything like the 2004 UVA version of himself, he may walk right into the MLB and start on opening weekend. It's more of a longshot than Thurman doing the same thing last year, but don't rule it out completely. If Thurman is indeed out for the entire season, the chances of Brooks assuming a MLB/ILB role permanently are high.
If Brooks would take over at MLB would Landon stay in at weakside or would Simmons move there? Which guy would be on the bench?
Simmons will start in any scenario. Just spitballin' though. Landon Johnson is an awful good player and Brooks would have to be at least as competent as Thurman was last summer to start for a team that sees itself as a playoff contender.
Join reality my friend. Marvin Lewis can not on any level stop bad things from happening. The only thing he can do is cut players who make mistakes thus trying to scare the crap out the next player who "might," do something wrong.The problem with that is a player like Odell Thurman is going to do what he's going to do anyway. This isn't a DUI or a handgun charge. Seems Thurman has bigger problems than that in which there's nothing Lewis was going to be able to do anyway.That's weird. I was convinced Marvin Lewis had a special knack for getting turds to fly straight.
This is the result when your team has zero standards.
Excuse me, but the team drafting Odell Thurman, Chris Henry, Frostee Rucker, A.J Nicholson, Matthais Askew and now Ahmad Brooks, while everyone else is removing them from draft boards, is who needs to join reality.And Lewis is going to cut guys to teach others players lesson? What rock have you been hiding under? Lewis came out and said that his hands are tied and he can't cut guys for being bad people. He then blamed attention of these recent criminal acts on "the media" and looks really, really pathetic when he and Mike Brown sing a rendition of "presumtion of innocence" in two part harmony for guys who, you know, leave their blood behind at a burglary scene. Lest those signals/lessons be misinterpreted by Bengals players, Lewis then drafted yet another known drug user with bad character using yet another 2nd round pick. Boy, I'll bet everyone in the lockerroom is changing their shorts over those scare-the-crap signals.Join reality my friend. Marvin Lewis can not on any level stop bad things from happening. The only thing he can do is cut players who make mistakes thus trying to scare the crap out the next player who "might," do something wrong.The problem with that is a player like Odell Thurman is going to do what he's going to do anyway. This isn't a DUI or a handgun charge. Seems Thurman has bigger problems than that in which there's nothing Lewis was going to be able to do anyway.That's weird. I was convinced Marvin Lewis had a special knack for getting turds to fly straight.
This is the result when your team has zero standards.
You're kidding yourself if you think if not for the Bengals those players wouldn't have been drafted. Because they all would have. As I said the only thing Lewis could do was threaten. I didn't say it would work. I think what you saw from Odell last year was the reward. This year was the risk.But for every bad apple you name me I can name you a player who had questions on draft day and turned out to be not bad guys. Warren Sapp... Corey Dillon... Cris Carter... Lamont Jordan...
Cris Carter is a bad example. He admits that Buddy Ryan and the Eagles did him a favor by cutting him. He was out of control and getting cut really shook him straight.
I think his main point is shown with your sample. One team, led by Lewis, is drafting bad apples on a consistent basis. Sure they are finding "value" in the draft by taking these players the rest of the NFL won't draft as high as the players talent should dictate. I happen to agree with his take, especially when you watch Lewis speak on these matters. I don't think I see denial in Lewis' face (as in a parent in denial over charges against their children) I think I see a man becoming real good at putting out defense lawyer type sound bites.Edited to state that I do believe people deserve chances in life to turn things around. Sure these guys would be in the NFL somewhere outside of the Bengals. It's just a consistent pattern in Lewis' tenure to date to take these players with what seems little regard to their character.
It's not a bad example. It's an example of a guy had a mark against him making right. The reasons why are not important. Just the reason it happened is.
I really don't think you are getting the point. In fact, you're running from the point almost as fast as Marv Lewis does. I never said drafting risky players on occasion can't be a good move. That's what front offices are for... to dig through hundreds of prospects and make conclusions as to who can help the team. But frankly, it appears the Bengals M.O. is to avoid good guys who are good players, and to try to get value focusing on unsavory players. It's like scouring the used car lot and hoping you can avoid the lemons instead of targetting a new car, and it is obviously imbedded in their draft mentality at this point. Perhaps its wishful thinking, and at worst this organization is seriously delusional or thinks Marvin has a magic wand. You can't expect to burn 8 draft picks on turds and have everything work out.
Unless Brooks recovers his studly UVA form (and maybe not even then), Thurman is the best LB on the Bengal roster. If he's eligible and in playing shape, he's starting in the middle.No reason to give Thurman any significant reps in the preseason when you're trying to evaluate Brooks and Nicholson while getting Simmons re-acclimated to the middle.Bengals have a Week 5 bye, so Thurman will have two weeks to practice. His training camp should be spent conditioning and getting back into shape.
If that's true, then wow. Unbelievable.
MKB4 keep up the good work. You have been keeping a lot of us posted on many topics; and, I thank you.
Talk about pissing on a lottery ticket.
