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Off-season Bills rumors - Levy and Losman (1 Viewer)

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My friend works at the Hyatt in downtown Buffalo, which is pretty much the only hotel in town, so whenever anything happens, it happens there. He works in Room Service/Banquets, and overheard Marv Levy talking to something else.

He said that Levy wasn't happy with Losman. Losman has been spending way too much time in bars, and has been hanging out with John Rzeznik of the Goo Goo Dolls, who lives in Buffalo.

Levy would like to trade Losman to move up in the first round to take Leinart. The other QB Levy likes is Reggie McNeal.

Personally, I don't think Losman's trade value is much more than a 5th rounder, so we'll see how this shakes out

 
My friend works at the Hyatt in downtown Buffalo, which is pretty much the only hotel in town, so whenever anything happens, it happens there. He works in Room Service/Banquets, and overheard Marv Levy talking to something else.

He said that Levy wasn't happy with Losman. Losman has been spending way too much time in bars, and has been hanging out with John Rzeznik of the Goo Goo Dolls, who lives in Buffalo.

Levy would like to trade Losman to move up in the first round to take Leinart. The other QB Levy likes is Reggie McNeal.

Personally, I don't think Losman's trade value is much more than a 5th rounder, so we'll see how this shakes out
He'd still fetch a first day value. Hes a first round talent with no discernable personality issues who isnt owed any big money on his contract.
 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.

 
I don't think I'll ever be able to get the first play of Losmans NFL career out of my head. He was flushed out of the pocket to his right and he threw a 2 or 3 yard pass to the defender right in front of him. There was no Bill's player in sight... just the defender who Losmas must of thought was his teamate?

Go Marv, Go Marv... ditch the bum!

Marv will turn this ship around!

 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
Not a chance. His value went down a good bit this past season with his poor performance.I think it's a pipe dream to think they can move into the top 3-5 this season...

 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
Not a chance. His value went down a good bit this past season with his poor performance.I think it's a pipe dream to think they can move into the top 3-5 this season...
Thats certainly inaccurate.With a 2nd rounder and 2 3rds, as well as their 2007 picks, they easily have the ammo to move up should they choose to.

 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
Yes, there is the Adams Mark and the Marriot in Amherst, but the Hyatt gets all the business from the NFL, NHL, music acts, etc. Hampton Inn is more of a motel, isn't it?I agree Losman and the 8th pick isn't enough for top 3, but maybe Losman would be a good fit in New Orleans, or maybe Leniart drops. Personally, I'm happy that Levy isn't drinking the Cutler Kool-Aid, assuming all of this isn't a charade.

 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
Yes, there is the Adams Mark and the Marriot in Amherst, but the Hyatt gets all the business from the NFL, NHL, music acts, etc. Hampton Inn is more of a motel, isn't it?I agree Losman and the 8th pick isn't enough for top 3, but maybe Losman would be a good fit in New Orleans, or maybe Leniart drops. Personally, I'm happy that Levy isn't drinking the Cutler Kool-Aid, assuming all of this isn't a charade.
Losman did play his college ball in New Orleans so there's a connection there, but I don't think the Saints would pass up on Leinart unless they got Losman and a whole lt more. With Aaron Brooks getting benched last year, they need a QB badly and it would be pretty tough to sell that fan base on Losman after the way he played for most of 2005. The Bills would probably have to overpay by quite a bit to get the #2 pick. Regardless, if they were looking to trade up, I'd rather see them try to land D'brickashaw Ferguson. He could likely be had much easier and would fill a glaring need on the team.
 
only hotel in town?

Adams Mark down? Hampton Inn?

btw, I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
Yes, there is the Adams Mark and the Marriot in Amherst, but the Hyatt gets all the business from the NFL, NHL, music acts, etc. Hampton Inn is more of a motel, isn't it?I agree Losman and the 8th pick isn't enough for top 3, but maybe Losman would be a good fit in New Orleans, or maybe Leniart drops. Personally, I'm happy that Levy isn't drinking the Cutler Kool-Aid, assuming all of this isn't a charade.
I see you read my draft LOL... Cutler Kool-Aid :D
 
Bills | More about quarterback situationSat, 25 Feb 2006 06:19:03 -0800Allen Wilson, of the Buffalo News, reports Buffalo Bills general manager said the third quarterback the team is looking to add to compete with current QBs J.P. Losman and Kelly Holcomb won't be a high draft pick or a high-profile free agent like QB Drew Brees. "There may be a young one out there," Levy said during a visit with the media at the NFL Combine. "Is there one or two in free agency that's not necessarily a blow-you-away guy? Not necessarily a Drew Brees, for instance. And if he can come in and compete, great." Levy hasn't ruled out using a mid- to late-round draft pick on a passer, but the team wouldn't mind a young veteran with experience. Levy says the Bills' interest in acquiring another quarterback does not mean they have lost confidence in Losman. Levy said Losman has the physical tools to be an outstanding player. Head coach **** Jauron added that someone will go into minicamp penciled in as the starter. Based on last season's performance, Holcomb might be the choice.
Interesting. Levy is looking at a 2nd tier rookie QB or "a young veteran with experience." What are the chances that Tim Rattay could be available?
 
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I would love to see this happen but I don't think Losman would be enough to move up to the top-3 of the draft.
:no: Losman and JESSICA ALBA wouldn't get them into the top 3.
Well, it would be the 8th pick and Losman, and maybe another pick. Probably not enough still, but it might be tempting if a team liked Losman and didn't like Leinart.
 
My question is "Why is Levy in a hotel"?
I think it was a banquet for some kind of charity event. Its not like he was renting a room by the hour and calling escorts from the backpages of Art Voice.
 
Bills | More about quarterback situation

Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:19:03 -0800

Allen Wilson, of the Buffalo News, reports Buffalo Bills general manager said the third quarterback the team is looking to add to compete with current QBs J.P. Losman and Kelly Holcomb won't be a high draft pick or a high-profile free agent like QB Drew Brees. "There may be a young one out there," Levy said during a visit with the media at the NFL Combine. "Is there one or two in free agency that's not necessarily a blow-you-away guy? Not necessarily a Drew Brees, for instance. And if he can come in and compete, great." Levy hasn't ruled out using a mid- to late-round draft pick on a passer, but the team wouldn't mind a young veteran with experience. Levy says the Bills' interest in acquiring another quarterback does not mean they have lost confidence in Losman. Levy said Losman has the physical tools to be an outstanding player. Head coach **** Jauron added that someone will go into minicamp penciled in as the starter. Based on last season's performance, Holcomb might be the choice.
Interesting. Levy is looking at a 2nd tier rookie QB or "a young veteran with experience." What are the chances that Tim Rattay could be available?
Josh McCown...
 
I think it was a banquet for some kind of charity event. Its not like he was renting a room by the hour and calling escorts from the backpages of Art Voice.
I'm glad to see Marv finally gave up that lifestyle. There's a time in life to just put things aside, even for a hound dog like Marv. ;)
 
My question is "Why is Levy in a hotel"?
I think it was a banquet for some kind of charity event. Its not like he was renting a room by the hour and calling escorts from the backpages of Art Voice.
I thought thats what Fort Erie was for...All kidding aside, interesting tidbit.Thanks for passing it along.

 
I wouldn't be surprised by a move like that, however, I'm pretty confident Marv is putting his "be professional" stamp on this team. He's not the coach but no one within the organization will knock him for telling a player as such.

 
Meetings notebook: Bills looking to deal Losman

By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports

March 29, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. – Teams in search of a quarterback on the trade market could be in line for yet another young talent in the coming weeks: J.P. Losman.

Two league sources indicated Tuesday that Losman hasn't gained the confidence of the Buffalo Bills' new regime. Both sources expect the team to put the former first-round pick on the trade block before the start of the 2006 season – if he isn't already there.

Bills general manager Marv Levy declared the quarterback position an open race last week after signing Craig Nall to a three-year contract, and it was widely believed the former Green Bay Packers reserve QB would compete with Losman for starting duties. But one personnel man familiar with the situation said he expects Levy to put out trade feelers for Losman in the coming weeks.

"I think it's going to be something that boils down to Nall as the No. 1 and (Kelly) Holcomb as the backup," he said. "If you went through the locker room and people were honest, (there would be) a lot of people who aren't sold on Losman as a leader."

When asked if Losman could still win the support of Levy and teammates in the coming weeks, the source painted the situation as "doubtful."

"The biggest advocates of (Losman as a starter) are gone, but he's still a guy who has trade value," he said. "If Nall ends up being the starter and Holcomb is a solid backup you can rely on, why would you have Losman sitting at the bottom (of the depth chart) when you can still get something out there for him?"

The advocates that were mentioned are ex-general manager Tom Donahoe and ex-head coach Mike Mularkey. Interestingly, Mularkey is now the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins – a team that is actively seeking a backup quarterback and exploring a possible trade for the Detroit Lions' Joey Harrington. However, the Dolphins also are looking for a veteran backup who has a generous amount of starting experience, and Losman doesn't seem to fit the profile.

If there is any inclination to move Losman, the Bills haven't shown it publicly – outside of bringing Nall in to vie for starting honors. New head coach **** Jauron has been supportive and complimentary of Losman so far, and said Tuesday he's hoping Nall's acquisition will spur some healthy competition.

"(Losman has) had two years now to develop," Jauron said. "He had to play a lot last year. It was thrown on him early. It was a difficult situation to be in for a young guy. So he's got a real chance (to improve in his third year). He's got all that physical talent. He can run. He's got a strong arm. He's a smart guy. He's not afraid to work. He's got a lot of upside to him. We've got to give him a chance to get it out. Hopefully those other guys competing will force the hand a little bit and make them all better."

"(Nall) obviously doesn't have a lot of playing time. But when he's played he's performed well. He's been accurate with the football. He's a good decision maker. He's got experience. We're not teaching the guy how to play. All he has to do is transfer information. He should be able to step up and compete. He's got good size (6-foot-3, 230 pounds). I like his size – his height in the pocket. I like his demeanor. I like the way he handled himself in interviews. He's a very competitive guy. He believes he can be a starter and should be a starter."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-m...=yhoo&type=lgns

 
I think Marv's biggest problem is the whole Goo Goo Dolls angle. Maybe Losman should have dinner with Paul Anka. That should smooth thing over.

 
I think Marv's biggest problem is the whole Goo Goo Dolls angle. Maybe Losman should have dinner with Paul Anka. That should smooth thing over.
Losman isn't dumb, Lets see I'll hang out with John Rzeznik of the Goo Goo Dolls and bang all the chicks that come along since im hanging out with a rockstar.
 
Sadly, Losman reminds me of Harrington to a degree. Just doesn't seem like an on-the-field or off-the-field team leader, or even a team "player", so to speak.

 
Sadly, Losman reminds me of Harrington to a degree. Just doesn't seem like an on-the-field or off-the-field team leader, or even a team "player", so to speak.
He reminds me of Harrington because he is surrounded by top shelf receivers but cant seem to complete a pass.
 
Losman always had talent but seriously lacked leadershipin college. He was never well liked in the locker room.

Nall will succeed in the NFL. I would compare him to Delhomme, stayed in the league and studied the game and will seize the opportunity to be the starter. He is pretty accurate but is one of those 'gametime' players that just turns it on.

 
mewelde moore seemed like a smart, well-rounded guy... he spoke very poorly about losman's leadership during their stint together at tulane... maybe where there is smoke there is fire... as a losman owner in dynasty league i inherited last season, i am concerned... but since he doesn't have much value (sounds like it might be even less soon :) ), i'll hang on to him & hope his head catches up with his physical skills... he isn't entirely devoid of talent... the transition from college to pro has not been as smooth for him as it was for some of the more successful QBs from recent classes...

 
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He'd still fetch a first day value.  Hes a first round talent with no discernable personality issues who isnt owed any big money on his contract.
If a franchise trades up to draft the guy and is interested in unloading him prior to giving him a fair shot; that is a personality issue.The only way the Bills could get maximum value for Losman is if somebody contacted them and they pretended that trading him 'hurt'.

 
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I think Marv's biggest problem is the whole Goo Goo Dolls angle. Maybe Losman should have dinner with Paul Anka. That should smooth thing over.
Losman isn't dumb, Lets see I'll hang out with John Rzeznik of the Goo Goo Dolls and bang all the chicks that come along since im hanging out with a rockstar.
Throw away millions of dollars and the fame that comes with it to nail groupies and bar sluts? That's pretty dumb IMHO.Instead of acting like a rock star, try acting like an NFL QB. I bet they do just fine with the ladies.

 
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What are the chances that Tim Rattay could be available?
:X Rattay is horrible. :X
How is Rattay horrible? He has never had a chance to play with any talent around him. Joe Montana would have sucked on those 49ers teams.
:lmao: Sure thing, chief.

Go watch the dude on tape. He's a loser who cracks under the smallest amount of pressure, not to mention his well documented 4th quarter meltdowns.

He's a big downgrade from Holcombe or JP.

 
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:wall: Now Craig Nall is supposed to be the answer?
I personally really like Nall. Id like to see them have a better alternative option, but I think Nall can become a decent starter in this league. I see alot of Jake Delhomme in him.
 
Don't even know why Miami was floated as an option - what team trades a first-round QB to a division rival?

I could see Dallas being interested - seems like Quincy Carter but without the nose sugar.

Any idea what it would take to get him? My guess is a 2nd-rounder.

 
:wall: Now Craig Nall is supposed to be the answer?
I personally really like Nall. Id like to see them have a better alternative option, but I think Nall can become a decent starter in this league. I see alot of Jake Delhomme in him.
I hope you're right. I just think if he had any real chance of becoming a solid starter in the league, Green Bay wouldn't have burned a 1st round pick on Aaron Rodgers when they were trying to get Brett another shot at a Super Bowl.
 
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With what Bills fans have had to endure over the last decade, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Losman was traded and, just like like his favorite QB Brett Favre, became an MVP. Not because I really think Losman is the next Brett Favre, but because that's the kind of thing that seems to happen to Bills fans.

 
Any idea what it would take to get him? My guess is a 2nd-rounder.
I have no idea what kind of demand there is for him right now. A lot of teams have added QBs already and a bunch more will be drafted.
 
:wall: Now Craig Nall is supposed to be the answer?
I personally really like Nall. Id like to see them have a better alternative option, but I think Nall can become a decent starter in this league. I see alot of Jake Delhomme in him.
I hope you're right. I just think if he had any real chance of becoming a solid starter in the league, Green Bay wouldn't have burned a 1st round pick on Aaron Rodgers when they were trying to get Brett another shot at a Super Bowl.
Just depends I suppose. If the Pack had Rodgers rated as a top 5-10 pick on their board, and he falls to #24, I think they take him no matter who else they have or whether or not they are a SB caliber team.
 
Don't even know why Miami was floated as an option - what team trades a first-round QB to a division rival?

I could see Dallas being interested - seems like Quincy Carter but without the nose sugar.

Any idea what it would take to get him? My guess is a 2nd-rounder.
When you think that Patrick Ramsey could only draw a 6th, it's pretty hard to picture JP going for more than a 4th...
 
I could see Dallas being interested - seems like Quincy Carter but without the nose sugar.

Any idea what it would take to get him? My guess is a 2nd-rounder.
Bills should ask for Julius Jones, Marcus Spears, Sean Ryan and a release of Bledsoe for him.
 
Don't even know why Miami was floated as an option - what team trades a first-round QB to a division rival?

I could see Dallas being interested - seems like Quincy Carter but without the nose sugar.

Any idea what it would take to get him? My guess is a 2nd-rounder.
When you think that Patrick Ramsey could only draw a 6th, it's pretty hard to picture JP going for more than a 4th...
Bit of a difference. Ramsey has two more years of experience, during which he got beat out by Mark Brunell twice. He was also the alst pick of the first round, not a mid-rounder. And finally, everyone knew Ramsey was out of Washington, with no chance to compete for the job. Losman, OTOH, is the presumed starter for the Bills (even with all this Nall talk... ) and is entering his 3rd year. Brett Favre was traded for a 1st-rounder (19th overall after being taken 33rd overall) without having thrown 5 passes in his rookie year. AJ Feely was traded for a 2nd rounder. Mark Brunell was traded for a 3rd+5th. Aaron Brooks was traded for a 3rd, and he hadnt' seen any starting time either. Given that Buffalo is not over a barrel and doesn't HAVE to trade him, I don't think they'd give him up for less than 2nd-rounder. Maybe Dallas or Baltimore?
 
:wall: Now Craig Nall is supposed to be the answer?
I personally really like Nall. Id like to see them have a better alternative option, but I think Nall can become a decent starter in this league. I see alot of Jake Delhomme in him.
I hope you're right. I just think if he had any real chance of becoming a solid starter in the league, Green Bay wouldn't have burned a 1st round pick on Aaron Rodgers when they were trying to get Brett another shot at a Super Bowl.
Just depends I suppose. If the Pack had Rodgers rated as a top 5-10 pick on their board, and he falls to #24, I think they take him no matter who else they have or whether or not they are a SB caliber team.
:goodposting: IIRC there was some article posted here after the draft in which someone in the Green Bay front office said that. He fell so far that we had to take him.

 
What are the chances that Tim Rattay could be available?
:X Rattay is horrible. :X
How is Rattay horrible? He has never had a chance to play with any talent around him. Joe Montana would have sucked on those 49ers teams.
:lmao: Sure thing, chief.

Go watch the dude on tape. He's a loser who cracks under the smallest amount of pressure, not to mention his well documented 4th quarter meltdowns.

He's a big downgrade from Holcombe or JP.
Regardless of what anyone here thinks of Rattay, Gruden traded FOR him, reportedly likes him, and has little else behind Simms. Unless the Bucs draft or trade FOR a QB, Rattay won't be leaving Tampa.
 
the post about losman not being dumb about hanging around with rzeznik and banging the rockstar chicks was

:sarcasm:

Found this in a counting crows msg board, this is who the goo goo dolls are:

Iris-I was at this show and they performed in the worst rainstorm buffalo has ever seen. I was standing in rain up to my knees(no lie)

http://www.warnerreprise.com/asx/googoodol...video_300-v.asx

cuz you're gone -not a hit but prb one of the fan favorites

here is gone-storytellers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jahZ7S0ah8Y...o%20goo%20dolls

sympathy-storytellers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8JNZYCH0yE...o%20goo%20dolls

concert of new york

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZSoQ8NMgkM...o%20goo%20dolls

leno skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA9BJrrUJmU

 
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