Off the rader RBs (1 Viewer)

[angman]

Just wanted to hear some thoughts from the Shark Pool on who they see as RBs who are off the radar right now, but can be monsters from Weeks 11-16 or so, ala Pierre Thomas 2008. While not an exact science as nobody can really predict the future, who are some candidates?

Off the top of my head I've got Danny Ware and Shonn Greene. Others?

 

[sho nuff]

Just basically guys that need an injury to break out.

The only one I can think of...and he is not too off the radar...is Beanie. As a runner he has looked better than Hightower. But I don't see them ever giving him enough carries to pull a PT.

 

[davearm]

I'm curious about what Jennings could do if MJD were to go out.

 

[zamboni]

Bernard Scott if Benson goes down

 

[PatsChowder]

I would have loved to have said Sammy Morris here, but after the Fred Taylor injury I think almost everyone has gotten on board.

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

 

[zamboni]

I would have loved to have said Sammy Morris here, but after the Fred Taylor injury I think almost everyone has gotten on board.Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Except if LJ does sit, it could be Kolby Smith, not Charles, that gets a shot if Kolby gets activated off the PUP.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Seconded.I also think Brandon Jackson has a shot at being relevant (though maybe not 'big'). Grant's excuses are gone - so he should hope Jackson doesn't dramatically outperform him again.

 

[sho nuff]

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Seconded.I also think Brandon Jackson has a shot at being relevant (though maybe not 'big'). Grant's excuses are gone - so he should hope Jackson doesn't dramatically outperform him again.

Jackson needs to stay healthy enough first...he is just now practicing and might finally play a game this year.

 

[Church of Iggy Pop]

Bernard Scott if Benson goes down

I'll second that nomination.Scott has been taking advantage of his extremely limited touches so far, averaging 4.5 yards on his 10 carries. With every Bengals game going down to the last :30, there has been precious little garbage time carries to work in backups, but Scott will get his soon.

That said, the Bengals are one of the few NFL teams to eschew RBBC, so it will probably take an injury to Cedric Benson to get Scott "on the radar", at which he will be the "hot waiver wire pickup of the week". Roster him now before that happens.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Would rather have Wynn than BJax - either probably does about the same as Grant is doing now

Lynell Hamilton - both Bell and Pierre are dinged, so it's not out of the realm of possibility, and any RB in NO will be gold.

Garrett Wolfe - the bad AP is gimpy, Kevin Jones is on IR, if something happens to Forte I think he averages 5-6 receptions a game and gets carries. Sort of like Fred Jackson's value first 3 weeks.

 

[MCguidance]

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Seconded.I also think Brandon Jackson has a shot at being relevant (though maybe not 'big'). Grant's excuses are gone - so he should hope Jackson doesn't dramatically outperform him again.

Again? When was the first time? Not being a jerk, just wondering. I thought Grant beat him out?

 

[sho nuff]

Would rather have Wynn than BJax - either probably does about the same as Grant is doing now Lynell Hamilton - both Bell and Pierre are dinged, so it's not out of the realm of possibility, and any RB in NO will be gold.Garrett Wolfe - the bad AP is gimpy, Kevin Jones is on IR, if something happens to Forte I think he averages 5-6 receptions a game and gets carries. Sort of like Fred Jackson's value first 3 weeks.

Wynn has shown absolutely nothing and is now hurt.Jackson and Grant are simply better than Wynn will ever be.

 

[sho nuff]

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Seconded.I also think Brandon Jackson has a shot at being relevant (though maybe not 'big'). Grant's excuses are gone - so he should hope Jackson doesn't dramatically outperform him again.

Again? When was the first time? Not being a jerk, just wondering. I thought Grant beat him out?

He did...and despite the thoughts of some, Jackson was not dramatically outperforming him last year either.

 

[strong]

I'd predict that the RBs likely to outperform their current value the rest of the year, regardless of injury status to the starter in front of them are:

Wells

Donald Brown

Mike Bell

McCoy

Shonne Green

McFadden

Forsett

Essentially, many of these guys are rostered so this becomes a buy low list. I think that each of these guys are decent buys right now. Forsett is probably the only one that can be had for merely a bag of chips, but they each are in situations in which they could be regular fantasy starters down the stretch.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Again? When was the first time? Not being a jerk, just wondering. I thought Grant beat him out?

They didn't give the ball to Jackson much last year, but when they did he looked the better runner. Last year we heard how it was because Grant was hurt, because he missed training camp, and etc. But Grant has looked exactly the same this year. If Jackson averages two yards/carry more than Grant again this year you have to believe at some point they'd at least think about giving him more opportunities.YMMV

 

[dmac37]

Forsett

Charles

B Jackson

Many guys can have value because of injuries, these guys could take over because of the lack of talent ahead of them.

 

[LittlePhatty]

IF Chris Johnson were to be injured they might give Javon Ringer a go, especially since some people think LenDale will not be a Titan next year.

As a CJ owner, I hope he never gets the chance though.

The Titans have the Rams in week 14 and the Chargers in week 16.

 

[That Little Voice]

IF Chris Johnson were to be injured they might give Javon Ringer a go, especially since some people think LenDale will not be a Titan next year.

As a CJ owner, I hope he never gets the chance though.

The Titans have the Rams in week 14 and the Chargers in week 16.

Good points all here Phatty. I might try to find the roster space. Ringer looked decent in preseason.

 

[On The Rocks]

Count me on the Forsett bandwagon...I tucked him away a couple of weeks ago and I expect he will be my Pierre Thomas from last year. Maybe not put up the same numbers Thomas put up the final 8 weeks in 2008 - but as long as Hasselbeck remains upright, he should be ok.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I would have loved to have said Sammy Morris here, but after the Fred Taylor injury I think almost everyone has gotten on board.

Instead I will say, Jamal Charles. Kansas City cannot allow Larry Johnson to continue to be this horrific all season long. They're going to have to hand the reigns over once they realize they are done this year.

Except if LJ does sit, it could be Kolby Smith, not Charles, that gets a shot if Kolby gets activated off the PUP.

There have been some blurbs that hint that Charles may be close to wearing out his welcome. He's been inactive a game or two while Haley has actually been consistently complimentary of Johnson's attitude and effort. Haley seems to be putting the blame squarely on the O-line...which IMHO is where it belongs. While Charles has a better ypc than Johnson, you'll also see that his higher average comes from getting carries late in the game when KC is 9+ points behind. That smells a lot like draws vs. a prevent D to me. He's getting some nice touches in the passing game, but it looks to me like he's a niche back with limited bellcow potential.

"Adam Teicher, of The Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles' time to prove his worth to the team could be running out. RB Kolby Smith (knee) is eligible to be activated later in October, and Smith could become the team's No. 2 running back ahead of Charles. RB Dantrell Savage is another option to become the primary backup to RB Larry Johnson. Charles could still figure into the team's plans. If the Chiefs don't view him as a regular, then he could still be used as a spot player capable of causing matchup problems for opposing defenses."

" Coach Todd Haley has not guaranteed that Charles will be active for Sunday's game against the Cowboys, the Kansas City Star reports. "We'll talk about that as the week progresses," Haley said. Analysis: Charles' fumble on the opening kickoff last week is driving Haley mad and prompting him to consider using the less explosive (but more reliable) Dantrell Savage in Charles' place. We don't recommend it, but if you're considering Charles as a flex play this week, make sure to check back Sunday morning to be sure that he's active."

OP's note: Charles was active last week, but the threat of being inactive is still disturbing since Haley did in fact deactivate Charles earlier in the year - so it's not an idle threat or an insincere motivational ploy.

 

[Cleat Spike]

By time Week 11 rolls around one would think that something will happen to either Morris or Maroney opening the door for BJGE to do what he did last year for a stretch. Higher % of this if Morris goes down over Maroney.

 

[Fallerjw]

Jerome Harrison

 

[Tong Po]

I'd predict that the RBs likely to outperform their current value the rest of the year, regardless of injury status to the starter in front of them are:

Wells

Donald Brown

Mike Bell

McCoy

Shonne Green

McFadden

Forsett

Essentially, many of these guys are rostered so this becomes a buy low list. I think that each of these guys are decent buys right now. Forsett is probably the only one that can be had for merely a bag of chips, but they each are in situations in which they could be regular fantasy starters down the stretch.

McFadden? Really? He was doing absolutely NOTHING before he tore cartilage in his knee.What makes you think he'll have any kind of value moving forward? Just curious.

 

[duaneok66]

By time Week 11 rolls around one would think that something will happen to either Morris or Maroney opening the door for BJGE to do what he did last year for a stretch. Higher % of this if Morris goes down over Maroney.

excellent post . . . thanks for stealing my thunder . . . I was going to post this . . .

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

 

[just_want_2_win]

I'd predict that the RBs likely to outperform their current value the rest of the year, regardless of injury status to the starter in front of them are:

Wells

Donald Brown

Mike Bell

McCoy

Shonne Green

McFadden

Forsett

Essentially, many of these guys are rostered so this becomes a buy low list. I think that each of these guys are decent buys right now. Forsett is probably the only one that can be had for merely a bag of chips, but they each are in situations in which they could be regular fantasy starters down the stretch.

Mike Bell - Saints O, decent schedule, PT always leaving the door cracked being dinged up, Saints using 3 RBs at times last year. Hardly under the radar, though.Danny Ware - He's in the position Bradshaw was last year behind Jacobs and Ward.

Justin Forsett - JJ doing nothing much, Edge washed up pretty much.

Kolby Smith - LJ is miserable and Charles can't even displace that, so maybe Smith can recapture some magic from his pre-PUP days.

Bernard Scott - Cinci run game is good; Scott probably wouldn't be as good as Benson but still could provide nice numbers.

Shonn Greene - Needs an injury.

Chris Wells - AZ hardly runs but he did have a couple more carries than Hightower last game.

Brandon Jackson - Always hoping for something but doesn't usually deliver.

Chester Taylor - As always, big if AP is out, but usually sits rotting on fantasy benches otherwise. Not exactly under the radar but not always thought of immediately, either.

J. Norwood - Has to stay healthy and needs a Turner injury.

Melwelde Moore - Would need a continually-hobbled FWP and Mendy to go down.

And now some really off the radar guys ...

Michael Bennett -- Not that great but LT can't stay healthy and Sproles hasn't been able to supplant LT so far.

Chris Henry (Tex) - Chris Brown doesn't do anything but GL carries and doesn't do that well, Slaton is doing ok but probably needs someone to spell him a bit, Moats really isn't the guy, and Henry flashed some potential with Tenn.

BJGE - Needs Maroney and Morris to get dinged, which is possible.

Samkon Gado - Needs a SJax injury.

Peyton Hillis - Would take Moreno and Buckhalter injuries but showed he can do something if the opportunity arises.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

x2

 

[strong]

I'd predict that the RBs likely to outperform their current value the rest of the year, regardless of injury status to the starter in front of them are:

Wells

Donald Brown

Mike Bell

McCoy

Shonne Green

McFadden

Forsett

Essentially, many of these guys are rostered so this becomes a buy low list. I think that each of these guys are decent buys right now. Forsett is probably the only one that can be had for merely a bag of chips, but they each are in situations in which they could be regular fantasy starters down the stretch.

McFadden? Really? He was doing absolutely NOTHING before he tore cartilage in his knee.What makes you think he'll have any kind of value moving forward? Just curious.

I don't think anyone should give up much for McFadden--just that he represents some value:Reasons to think McFadden will have value heading forward:

The Raiders are committed to giving him a real shot. I expect he'll receive the majority of carries once he's 100%. He can be had dirt cheap in redrafts and pretty cheap in dynasties at the moment--and can be had for fairly low risk--which isn't bad for a back that will likely see 15-20 touches after week 10. Also, the chance exists that Russell gets benched/hurt at some point this year--in which case McFadden's value should jump significantly. And last, I think the Raiders may begin to use some Wildcat stuff once he returns. It won't be the Fins offense, but it could boost his value a little as well.

Reasons to think McFadden won't have value heading forward:

The Raiders can't move the ball. McFadden can't break a tackle. Yadda Yadda... all the things you know and saw and that resulted in McFadden's unproductive early games.

For a bye week filler for another team, it might be worth it.