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Early-to-mid 2nds are worth a lot. I think there are probably 18 names I like before things start going to hell this year. Of course, given differences of opinion, I suppose there's still a pretty good chance that one of those 18 will still be around by pick 24.
Amarro, Bryant, a couple of the QBs, Richardson, west, and most IDPs could be available at the 24. Not a bad group.
West/Bryant/Amaro aren't particularly exciting to me, especially when players like Robinson and Hill are going just a few picks earlier. I do like Richardson, who is fairly consistently available, although I don't know if that ADP holds up forever. And you're right on in an IDP- that deep third tier extends a whole lot further than 18 names once you start adding in defenders.
Assuming you have roster space to keep the prospect, dropping from Sankey to Hyde and adding West seems like a solid move.
I am not an IDP guy, but I would rather have Martin than Reed, so I think you are fine there.
I don't play IDP but assuming there's not much difference between the IDP's you got the good end of the deal.
I did a deal like that last year...the pick would have been (and was) Stacy.
I've had AD on the block for over a year now. RBs aren't worth as much in this league as in others. Older RBs are worth a lot less than in most other leagues. Maybe I could have gotten more in season, but that didn't pan out last year.
Assuming LBs have decent value, that's a great deal.
Not as cut and dried as some of the previous posters seem to think...In PPR I actually would take Shorts, although if I was really roster deficient at RB, then I might go with the underwhelming Ridley.
Marquis Lee, Allen Robinson and Ace Sanders are the competition - two rookies and a player that has shown very little. Not that much Shorts has to compete with - too many mouths would imply serious immediate competition and I don't see that - maybe 1-2 years down the road but as a Shorts owner, not that concerned in 2014.
That's just crazy. Cobb's a FA in 2015 and with all the WR talent they've got they might not even retain him.
I think that's good value for cobb. I think the difference between cruz and cobb may be situation which might change next year for cobb
I'll take Cruz and company. Not too high on Cobb, as his value could drop if he leaves Green Bay.
Right but this is about dynasty not just this year. I doubt they spent those picks on guys they see as number 2 & 3 receivers in the long run. Next year shorts could be the 3rd or 4th WR option. As the 1 I like him as the 3 not so much. Question marks about Ridley too but he's shown he can carry the load when he doesn't fumble.
Based on FBGs consensus rankings, it's RB26 vs. WR51. DLF has it as RB28 vs. WR45. FantasyPros has it as RB20 vs. WR44. Rotoviz consensus has it as RB29 vs. WR45. The June Mocks had Ridley at RB31 (108 overall) and Shorts at WR52 (113 overall). And I'm pretty sure all of these rankings assume PPR, and most of them assume WR-friendly lineups (1/2/3/1 + flex). Any deviations in scoring only serve to skew the comparison more to Ridley.
Isnt shorts in a contract yr? If the rooks are legit they probably let him go (hopefully to a team with a better qb). I traded for shorts, but interesting discussion
I think so. They are trying to resign him. Given his inability to stay healthy I would expect him to resign rather than run the risk of either being outplayed by the rooks or getting hurt again.
Would you define a stud as a WR1? I would. He's being drafted as a WR1 and he plays like one in PPG as well (right around 12 or 13 or so last year in PPR). Granted he has yet to put together a WR1 season. If he could only stay healthy..
Given settings probably a good deal both sides. Miller should be serviceable. Khiry has a low floor in that Saints offense, but his ceiling is probably higher as i think they'll let ingram walk. Saints should find out what they have in this kid
That is fine, I am tempted to quote the estimable EBF on the value (or lack thereof) of consensus rankings, but IMO Ridley is way overrated and I tend to agree with the Rotoworld blurb quoting ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Reiss who "expects Shane Vereen to handle a majority of New England's running back snaps this season". http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6445/shane-vereen And that is just my opinion.
Is Vereen even that good of a between the tackle runner?
Yeah, I absolutely see why the rebuild squad did it, upside wise Robinson is definitely the play, especially since he already owned Ingram. If one gets injured, the other one is probably startable no matter what happens otherwise. As for me, I have Ball and hopefully his handcuff at RB, only need to start 1, and have absolutely no intention of ever starting more than 1 RB in this league (my WR corps is stacked).
ESPN's Mike Reiss seems to think that he is good enough to project that he will handle a majority of the RB snaps.
I might think about trading Bell for Floyd depending on my situation. Actually not a big reach at all imo and I might take Floyd more often than not given that choice
I agree, and if not deficient at RB and fat at WR I would not have considered this trade. As for dynasty rankings they are pretty close.
Yeah, obviously I'm not going to go defending consensus thought to the death or anything. I've got plenty of places where I'm pretty happy to disagree with pretty much every other ranker out there. Just in this case, I think the consensus has it right and that most people underrate just how good of a runner Ridley really is.
In PPR that's not great. Its Shonn Greene level production (if only Shonn Greene's name rhymed with Mendoza). Lower cost players provide more upside. Given Bolden and presumably White are more trusted as receivers, you're looking at 2014 upside as stopgap RB2 or modest flex play.
Ridley is a good RB and his upside would be higher anywhere other than NE (or NO). But how often does the Gerhart scenario happen really? And with the rookie class next year how many starting positions are available? It's a nice dream to have, but you have to be satisfied with a LeGarrette Blount or Donald Brown situation.
