****OFFICIAL 2008 Washington Redskins Thread**** (2 Viewers)

[DCThunder]

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Dec. 11, 2005: Against Arizona RB J.J. Arrington at Sun Devil Stadium.

"I remember another play when we went to Arizona in 2005. It was a fourth-down play and it was a toss play to running back J.J. Arrington. They needed that play and Sean had put so many of those violent collisions on film that J.J. went down to get away from the hit that he knew was coming from Sean on that play. And he was short on the play, and he did not make an attempt to make that gain, because of the intimidation that he had already seen on him."

That was a must-win game for the Redskins that December, when they won five in a row to finish 10-6 and earn a playoff berth.

I remember this one. Arrington just melted into the ground rather than absorb the hit. The Cardinals really needed that play but Arrington's self-preservation instincts just took over.Man I wish Taylor was still alive. And playing. There are very few times in a lifetime when you get to watch football like he played it. Even if they were losing by 28 points, if he was on the field it was a riveting game because you knew you might see something you'd never seen before.

I pointed out that play on this board just after it happened in a thread about Arrington. That pretty much ended the discussion about him ever being a good player.And on the rest. You didn't have to watch Taylor play for very long to realize that you were watching greatness. It's a pretty rare athlete and player that can stand out like he did, especially on defense, among an entire league filled with supremely gifted players.

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

 

[dgreen]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).As you say, the flaws were part of his greatness. While I obviously don't condone spitting on an opponent, it was that type of attitude that made him who he was on the field. I'll take his attitude and one spitting incident over no spitting incident and a different attitude. He was going to get you however he could. I think he spit because he wanted to do something to Pittman without being caught. He was an intimidator. I think he would have preferred to punch Pittman, but that would have been fairly obvious and was more of a risk to get ejected. The main thing I didn't like about that whole event was that he lied to Greggggg and said he didn't spit, leading Greggggg to go in front of the media and say Sean didn't do that.My favorite "dumb play" by Taylor was in his rookie season when he sent a forearm to T.O.'s mouth on a play on the opposite side of the field. Yes, T.O. scored a TD on the drive, but T.O. also spent every game avoiding Taylor after that.As for the tape and facemask, I think that's just piling on. If he wants to pay the fine, so be it. If the team isn't going to make him change, so be it. I was at that sock game. When they came out for warmups, my friend points and yells, "Oh my gosh, look at those socks. That is AWESOME!"

 

[dgreen]

I think I'm going to spend the rest of my last day of work this week watching Taylor videos.

 

[buster c]

He was really short on one against Dallas I believe.

Yep. From about the same distance.Takes me back to Eddie Murray coming up short in back-to-back weeks from about 40 yards in 2000. Those ended up getting Norv fired.

and for that, I always remember Eddie in my Thanksgiving Day prayer before dinner and send him a Christmas card.

 

[buster c]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).

not before he scored the TD that provided the winning margin.

 

[fatness]

I think I'm going to spend the rest of my last day of work this week watching Taylor videos.

Can I get hired to do that too?

 

[Bankerguy]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

There are a number of DLs and LBs that are dinged up. Most likely making room for an addition there.Portis, Betts and Cartwright are "healthy" so Alexander was expendable.

 

[T Bell]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

It means two things: 1) Betts is healthy again, and 2) they need to sign a DL.

 

[dgreen]

I think I'm going to spend the rest of my last day of work this week watching Taylor videos.

Can I get hired to do that too?

Two words: Federal Government

 

[dgreen]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).

not before he scored the TD that provided the winning margin.

 

[cstu]

Saying it now. Redskins don't even make the playoffs. There. Deal with it.

It's very possible. SEA, SF, and CIN should all be wins, if they can beat one of PHI, NYG or BALT that takes them to 10-6 of course I'm not completly sold that either Washington or Dallas will be in the playoffs this year. Both teams have a very small margin of error the last 6 games.

The Redskins have the Giants, @Ravens, Eagles, @49ers and @Bengals left.The Cowboys have the Giants, Ravens, @Eagles, Seahawks and @Steelers left.If the Redskins and Cowboys end up tied, then the Redskins have the conference wins tiebreaker. They also have the lead on the tie-breaker with the Falcons, which the Cowboys do not. Even if the Redskins go 3-2 they should end up in the playoffs at 10-6.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins could be short-handed at defensive tackle against the New York Giants on Sunday at FedEx Field. Cornelius Griffin (shoulder) needed a cortisone injection in order to complete Sunday's 20-17 victory over Seattle at Qwest Field and Kedric Golston played despite the pain of a bone spur in his foot. Reserve defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery has sat out a few games because of an Achilles's tendon injury, though he could return this week, Coach Jim Zorn said. Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, and his staff have moved to bolster the position with Boschetti, who was released on Aug. 30.

To make room for Boschetti or another defensive lineman on the 53-man roster, the Redskins could have cut defensive end Erasmus James, who has not been active recently and is not expected to contribute this season, Blache said, or rookie defensive end Rob Jackson. Instead, Washington released Alexander, who has gained only 24 yards on 11 rushes (a 2.2-yard average) in five games with the team.

JLC

 

[fatness]

Banged up. Link

The Redskins' biggest injury concern ahead of the game against the New York Giants is middle linebacker London Fletcher, someone essentially irreplaceable in this defense. Fletcher is scheduled to get intense treatment much of today, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, for his sprained foot. His teammates are hoping the ligament responds well, as are the coaches.

Fletcher gutted it out against the Seahawks but was not nearly as active as usual. Tomorrow will be a key day in his recovery. If he is on the field at least watching practice - Fletcher and end Andre Carter (foot), are not scheduled to actually participate in the session - the team will be encouraged. If Fletcher is watching on the sidelines and communicating with teammates, that's a very positive sign.

 

[fatness]

Zorn, talking about Portis

Portis injured his rib cage in the win, adding to his knee, ankle, leg and hip woes. But he may be able to practice this week, Zorn said.

"He really is interesting because I told him, 'You did so well, but you don't like to practice,'" Zorn said. "He said, 'Coach, I love to practice.' But he really is injured and is really listening to what his body is saying, and the trainers have got it in high gear with his treatments."

After the Seattle game I don't remember the exact words, but Zorn came as close as he'll ever come to calling someone a hero when he talked about Portis.

 

[Marvelous]

Well, they certainly had a few plays called for Kelly. He was clearly the first read on some passes and some of them were actually more than 5 yards downfield. Hopefully he can get better and better each week and help some more.

I think Kelly is ahead of Thomas in terms of his understanding of the game, so if he avoids injury I'd expect to see him out there more.

It looked like Kelly was out there on a number of plays. I only saw Thomas on offense a couple of plays. So they are definately trying to work Kelly into the mix.

 

[Marvelous]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).As you say, the flaws were part of his greatness. While I obviously don't condone spitting on an opponent, it was that type of attitude that made him who he was on the field. I'll take his attitude and one spitting incident over no spitting incident and a different attitude. He was going to get you however he could. I think he spit because he wanted to do something to Pittman without being caught. He was an intimidator. I think he would have preferred to punch Pittman, but that would have been fairly obvious and was more of a risk to get ejected. The main thing I didn't like about that whole event was that he lied to Greggggg and said he didn't spit, leading Greggggg to go in front of the media and say Sean didn't do that.My favorite "dumb play" by Taylor was in his rookie season when he sent a forearm to T.O.'s mouth on a play on the opposite side of the field. Yes, T.O. scored a TD on the drive, but T.O. also spent every game avoiding Taylor after that.As for the tape and facemask, I think that's just piling on. If he wants to pay the fine, so be it. If the team isn't going to make him change, so be it. I was at that sock game. When they came out for warmups, my friend points and yells, "Oh my gosh, look at those socks. That is AWESOME!"

Taylor also grew up a lot during his career. He was having an outstanding season in 2007 and I don't think he had any silly or stupid moments. The turn around in both his personal life and professional life were very evident. He really was on the verge of greatness.

 

[Marvelous]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

There are a number of DLs and LBs that are dinged up. Most likely making room for an addition there.Portis, Betts and Cartwright are "healthy" so Alexander was expendable.

After watching the game, I don't think you can call Portis healthy. And during the game, you saw Sellers get some carries from the TB position. I think Alexander just didn't have it and they need the roster spot.

 

[Marvelous]

The Redskins could be short-handed at defensive tackle against the New York Giants on Sunday at FedEx Field. Cornelius Griffin (shoulder) needed a cortisone injection in order to complete Sunday's 20-17 victory over Seattle at Qwest Field and Kedric Golston played despite the pain of a bone spur in his foot. Reserve defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery has sat out a few games because of an Achilles's tendon injury, though he could return this week, Coach Jim Zorn said. Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, and his staff have moved to bolster the position with Boschetti, who was released on Aug. 30.

To make room for Boschetti or another defensive lineman on the 53-man roster, the Redskins could have cut defensive end Erasmus James, who has not been active recently and is not expected to contribute this season, Blache said, or rookie defensive end Rob Jackson. Instead, Washington released Alexander, who has gained only 24 yards on 11 rushes (a 2.2-yard average) in five games with the team.

JLC

What is the deal with Erasmus James? If he wasn't expected to contribute this season, couldn't they put him on IR at the beginning of the season? Seems silly to rush him back and carry him as an inactive all season long.

 

[fatness]

Taylor also grew up a lot during his career. He was having an outstanding season in 2007 and I don't think he had any silly or stupid moments. The turn around in both his personal life and professional life were very evident. He really was on the verge of greatness.

Very true; it was a pretty compelling turnaround for him.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

There are a number of DLs and LBs that are dinged up. Most likely making room for an addition there.Portis, Betts and Cartwright are "healthy" so Alexander was expendable.

After watching the game, I don't think you can call Portis healthy. And during the game, you saw Sellers get some carries from the TB position. I think Alexander just didn't have it and they need the roster spot.

That's why I used the quotes. He's dinged up and less than 100% for sure. But even with all his bumps, bruises, strains and pains he can play on Sundays, and play at an elite level. I agree Alexander didn't have it. With the return of Betts, all that makes Alexander expendable.

 

[DCThunder]

Released Alexander.....interesting.

There are a number of DLs and LBs that are dinged up. Most likely making room for an addition there.Portis, Betts and Cartwright are "healthy" so Alexander was expendable.

After watching the game, I don't think you can call Portis healthy. And during the game, you saw Sellers get some carries from the TB position. I think Alexander just didn't have it and they need the roster spot.

That's why I used the quotes. He's dinged up and less than 100% for sure. But even with all his bumps, bruises, strains and pains he can play on Sundays, and play at an elite level. I agree Alexander didn't have it. With the return of Betts, all that makes Alexander expendable.

And they could always use Mike Sellers at tailback in a real pinch. I'd love to see Sellers get 15 carries, especially if they ran a sweep and let Lorenzo Alexander play fullback and lead him around behind Samuels. If Brandon Jacobs can play tailback at 265 lbs, why can't Sellers?

 

[fatness]

If Brandon Jacobs can play tailback at 265 lbs, why can't Sellers?

"Oh no! Mike’s in there!"

 

[sinatravolta]

Saying it now. Redskins don't even make the playoffs. There. Deal with it.

It's very possible. SEA, SF, and CIN should all be wins, if they can beat one of PHI, NYG or BALT that takes them to 10-6 of course I'm not completly sold that either Washington or Dallas will be in the playoffs this year. Both teams have a very small margin of error the last 6 games.

The Redskins have the Giants, @Ravens, Eagles, @49ers and @Bengals left.The Cowboys have the Giants, Ravens, @Eagles, Seahawks and @Steelers left.If the Redskins and Cowboys end up tied, then the Redskins have the conference wins tiebreaker. They also have the lead on the tie-breaker with the Falcons, which the Cowboys do not. Even if the Redskins go 3-2 they should end up in the playoffs at 10-6.

I don't think it's that simple. Let's say the Cowboys beat the Giants, Eagles and Seahawks but lose to the Steelers and Ravens. And the Redskins beat the Ravens, 49ers and Bengals but lose to the Giants and Eagles. Both are 10-6. Cowboys would beat the Redskins based on superior division record - even for a wildcard spot. So ultimately - I think the key for the Redskins is they've got to win their last 3 games. Now if they can beat the Giants that's a huge bonus and the Ravens are somewhat of a bonus - but that Eagles game will be key. Of course if the 'skins can go 4-1 then they're pretty certain of making the playoffs.

 

[fatness]

"We can talk about wanting to be a championship team and wanting to be in the palyoffs. But if we can’t beat one of the better teams at home, then we don’t deserve to be there. We've stumbled at home the last couple times. We have to defend our homefield and win this ballgame. Let’s be honest, if we don’t win, we are what we are and probably don’t’ deserve to win the division or necessarily be in the playoffs."

Greg Blache

 

[T Bell]

"We can talk about wanting to be a championship team and wanting to be in the palyoffs. But if we can’t beat one of the better teams at home, then we don’t deserve to be there. We've stumbled at home the last couple times. We have to defend our homefield and win this ballgame. Let’s be honest, if we don’t win, we are what we are and probably don’t’ deserve to win the division or necessarily be in the playoffs."

Greg Blache

He's right. It's been a long time since this team won a big late season or postseason game against a superior team that was not struggling with personnel problems of one form or another (injuries, suspensions, etc.). That's the next step that they have to take, and along those lines I was NOT encouraged by what I saw against Dallas or Pittsburgh.

 

[buster c]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).As you say, the flaws were part of his greatness. While I obviously don't condone spitting on an opponent, it was that type of attitude that made him who he was on the field. I'll take his attitude and one spitting incident over no spitting incident and a different attitude. He was going to get you however he could. I think he spit because he wanted to do something to Pittman without being caught. He was an intimidator. I think he would have preferred to punch Pittman, but that would have been fairly obvious and was more of a risk to get ejected. The main thing I didn't like about that whole event was that he lied to Greggggg and said he didn't spit, leading Greggggg to go in front of the media and say Sean didn't do that.My favorite "dumb play" by Taylor was in his rookie season when he sent a forearm to T.O.'s mouth on a play on the opposite side of the field. Yes, T.O. scored a TD on the drive, but T.O. also spent every game avoiding Taylor after that.As for the tape and facemask, I think that's just piling on. If he wants to pay the fine, so be it. If the team isn't going to make him change, so be it. I was at that sock game. When they came out for warmups, my friend points and yells, "Oh my gosh, look at those socks. That is AWESOME!"

Taylor also grew up a lot during his career. He was having an outstanding season in 2007 and I don't think he had any silly or stupid moments. The turn around in both his personal life and professional life were very evident. He really was on the verge of greatness.

he would have retired as the best safety in NFL history. 1st ballot. crushing loss on many levels

 

[T Bell]

I love Sean Taylor as much as the next Redskins fan and mourn his loss every Sunday, but he could (and did) do some dumb things that get overlooked in the eulogies. Remember the Spitting Incident in Tampa Bay in the playoffs of '06 that got him suspended for the Seahwaks game (or was he thrown out of the Hawks game for something elese, I forget)? He also had that silly issue with the tape on the facemask and his socks not matching.So let's remember the good plays, but not overlook the flaws. It makes him an even better football player.

He was kicked out of the Bucs game and played the whole Seattle game (he may have left early with an injury).As you say, the flaws were part of his greatness. While I obviously don't condone spitting on an opponent, it was that type of attitude that made him who he was on the field. I'll take his attitude and one spitting incident over no spitting incident and a different attitude. He was going to get you however he could. I think he spit because he wanted to do something to Pittman without being caught. He was an intimidator. I think he would have preferred to punch Pittman, but that would have been fairly obvious and was more of a risk to get ejected. The main thing I didn't like about that whole event was that he lied to Greggggg and said he didn't spit, leading Greggggg to go in front of the media and say Sean didn't do that.My favorite "dumb play" by Taylor was in his rookie season when he sent a forearm to T.O.'s mouth on a play on the opposite side of the field. Yes, T.O. scored a TD on the drive, but T.O. also spent every game avoiding Taylor after that.As for the tape and facemask, I think that's just piling on. If he wants to pay the fine, so be it. If the team isn't going to make him change, so be it. I was at that sock game. When they came out for warmups, my friend points and yells, "Oh my gosh, look at those socks. That is AWESOME!"

Taylor also grew up a lot during his career. He was having an outstanding season in 2007 and I don't think he had any silly or stupid moments. The turn around in both his personal life and professional life were very evident. He really was on the verge of greatness.

he would have retired as the best safety in NFL history. 1st ballot. crushing loss on many levels

I'm convinced that he was headed there, and essentially would have been remembered as the LT of the safety position, a guy whose athleticism and violent, intimidating style of play redefined his position. We only got a few hints of what he was going to become, and I do still miss watching him play.

 

[cstu]

Saying it now. Redskins don't even make the playoffs. There. Deal with it.

It's very possible. SEA, SF, and CIN should all be wins, if they can beat one of PHI, NYG or BALT that takes them to 10-6 of course I'm not completly sold that either Washington or Dallas will be in the playoffs this year. Both teams have a very small margin of error the last 6 games.

The Redskins have the Giants, @Ravens, Eagles, @49ers and @Bengals left.The Cowboys have the Giants, Ravens, @Eagles, Seahawks and @Steelers left.

If the Redskins and Cowboys end up tied, then the Redskins have the conference wins tiebreaker. They also have the lead on the tie-breaker with the Falcons, which the Cowboys do not. Even if the Redskins go 3-2 they should end up in the playoffs at 10-6.

I don't think it's that simple. Let's say the Cowboys beat the Giants, Eagles and Seahawks but lose to the Steelers and Ravens. And the Redskins beat the Ravens, 49ers and Bengals but lose to the Giants and Eagles. Both are 10-6. Cowboys would beat the Redskins based on superior division record - even for a wildcard spot. So ultimately - I think the key for the Redskins is they've got to win their last 3 games. Now if they can beat the Giants that's a huge bonus and the Ravens are somewhat of a bonus - but that Eagles game will be key.

Of course if the 'skins can go 4-1 then they're pretty certain of making the playoffs.

EDIT: I think you meant conference record - division record is only considered if there's a 3-way tie.However, you're right that he Cowboys would win the tie-breaker with an 8-4 conference record (currently 5-4) over the Redskins (currently 6-3) if they win all 3 conference games and the Redskins lose 2 of 3.

The 49ers and Eagles are must wins for the Redskins since I don't expect them to beat the Giants.

 

[southeastjerome]

Does anyone know if they are going to show the Sean Taylor pregame stuff on Fox?

 

[Swing 51]

Does anyone know if they are going to show the Sean Taylor pregame stuff on Fox?

I don't know about live but there should be video later.

Jason La Canfora reports that at the 50-yard-line, instead of the usual Redskins symbol, a No. 21 is painted inside the gold circle.

 

[fatness]

Jason La Canfora reports that at the 50-yard-line, instead of the usual Redskins symbol, a No. 21 is painted inside the gold circle.

 

[Swing 51]

For the locals in DC area CSN seems to be showing parts of the ceremony

 

[fatness]

I've been thinking this all week and I'll just come out and say it. The Redskins have next-to-no-chance at winning this game. The Giants are stronger than they are on both lines of scrimmage. The Redskins also have injuries among the O-line and D-line, London Fletcher is out, Golston is out, Portis is still hurt. Those things all point to a 20-point Giant win. The only things on their side are the cold, the rain, and inspiration from honoring Sean Taylor today.

We'll see how it plays out. Go Skins.

 

[fatness]

Live Broadcast of pre-game ceremonies on Redskins.com

 

[southeastjerome]

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk..._Event_1644.jsp

 

[southeastjerome]

 

[DA RAIDERS]

there's d hall keepin' it real. enjoy wash.

 

[T Bell]

I've been thinking this all week and I'll just come out and say it. The Redskins have next-to-no-chance at winning this game. The Giants are stronger than they are on both lines of scrimmage. The Redskins also have injuries among the O-line and D-line, London Fletcher is out, Golston is out, Portis is still hurt. Those things all point to a 20-point Giant win. The only things on their side are the cold, the rain, and inspiration from honoring Sean Taylor today. We'll see how it plays out. Go Skins.

I've had the same thoughts, and so far the game has played out about the way I thought it would, the only difference being that the Giants had to settle for FG's a couple of times. We'll see if that comes back to haunt them.

 

[Ripleys]

good call fatness. Skins and Giants have the exact opposite lines on both sides of the ball. Giants have great depth, and a fantastic pass rush. Skins have almost NO pass rush. Campbell has pressure in his face almost every passing play. Eli usually has great protection. The skilled positions may be the sexiest in football, but if your lines are weak, you just can't dominate. I think the Giants could put almost any NFL RB, WR, or QB behind those lines and still be a good team.

 

[fatness]

there's d hall keepin' it real. enjoy wash.

He's been an unexpected bright spot. The guy has a nose for the ball and has (I think) won a starting cornerback spot already since he seems to be on the field on most defensive plays. I'm happy they signed him, he's been no trouble so far and has played unexpectedly well.

 

[buster c]

For the locals in DC area CSN seems to be showing parts of the ceremony

not really. the cameras would occasionally showing some pre-game action on the field, but ash-clown Chick Hernandez was hosting a pregame show that did not pick up the live ceremony. I was able to hear it on the radio.what's the purpose of the CSN pregame show? did little Danny want exclusivity for his radio station?

 

[T Bell]

there's d hall keepin' it real. enjoy wash.

He's been an unexpected bright spot. The guy has a nose for the ball and has (I think) won a starting cornerback spot already since he seems to be on the field on most defensive plays. I'm happy they signed him, he's been no trouble so far and has played unexpectedly well.

So far so good. Given the relatively benign nature of his past sins, I'm willing to give him a chance to succeed, and he seems grateful for the opportunity to not only play again, but to play for what amounts to his hometown team.

 

[dgreen]

there's d hall keepin' it real. enjoy wash.

He's been an unexpected bright spot. The guy has a nose for the ball and has (I think) won a starting cornerback spot already since he seems to be on the field on most defensive plays. I'm happy they signed him, he's been no trouble so far and has played unexpectedly well.

So far so good. Given the relatively benign nature of his past sins, I'm willing to give him a chance to succeed, and he seems grateful for the opportunity to not only play again, but to play for what amounts to his hometown team.

His play has certainly been solid. He appears to be CB1 right now since he was the only CB on the field when the Giants had only 1 WR on the field. Rogers had a rough game. He was consistently beat on slants. I will say, though, that Rogers kept looking over to the sideline and putting his hands up when he was beat on slants as if to say, "I'm doing what I'm told. Maybe we shouldn't give them that route?" I just can't believe Hixon would routinely beat Rogers that much.I heard on the postgame show that a player was in the lockerroom after the game saying he was pleased with his own performance. The 980 beat reporter, Frank Hanrahan, wouldn't out the player but mentioned it and said that kind of attitude is obviously a problem. My first thought was he was talking about Hall.

 

[{Syrus}]

Said it before, will say it again...Redskins dont make playoffs.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

there's d hall keepin' it real. enjoy wash.

He's been an unexpected bright spot. The guy has a nose for the ball and has (I think) won a starting cornerback spot already since he seems to be on the field on most defensive plays. I'm happy they signed him, he's been no trouble so far and has played unexpectedly well.

the pick/s? have been thrown directly to him. that 15 yard penalty & getting burned continuously is what you should come to expect.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Jordan Gross, UFA, Carolina Panthers

A first round pick in 2003, Gross earned a starting role in his rookie season and held that role as a tackle for the entire season. His ability to step in and play well right away paid off for the Panthers, as the team put together a run to an NFC Championship. He’s continued being a starter since that rookie season and is a solid player. Carolina slapped the franchise tag on him for this season, and chances are he will be another team come ’09.

Karlos Dansby, UFA, Arizona Cardinals

Dansby is becoming a consistent linebacker in the NFL. In his last three full seasons, he has tackle totals of 89, 82, and 99. He has also tallied at least three sacks in each of his five seasons as a pro. His three interceptions last season tied a career high and Dansby is young and athletic. So far in ’08, he has made a pair of picks, has three sacks, and has made 70 tackles. He isn’t in the same class as some of the linebackers on this list, but he may eventually be pretty close. Dansby will appeal to several teams because of his age, size, and potential

A couple of free agents I would like to see in here.

 

[fatness]

Losing to the Chiefs will make you bitter.

 

[T Bell]

Said it before, will say it again...Redskins dont make playoffs.

How are those "Super Bowl favorites" of yours doing? As I said in the Crygirls thread, our team has exceeded our expectations even if they don't make the playoffs. Yours hasn't. Hey, at least you have Wade and Jerruh to guide you out of the wilderness.

 

[TankRizzo]

Springs is hurt again and we have the beginnings of a QB controversy brewing. All is well in DC