***Official 2009 New Orleans Saints Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Maik Jeaunz]

I didn't see one of these, so...who dat!

what we know (or don't know) so far:

Gregg Williams signed a 3 year contract as DC. big time signing!
we most likely won't have a lot of cap room and can't expect to sign any marquee free agents. a couple mid-level FA's are probably all we will get.
can Vilma be resigned?
David Patten is the first offseason cut. who's next? will Deuce stay or go?
the state contractually owes the Saints approximately $23 million before this summer; renogiation of the contract could make this moot.
Dan Morgan and his 8 remaining brain cells want to try and play this season.
who will we target, and who will we land, in the draft? OLB and FS are our biggest needs. many people think trading down is the right play, and I think I agree with them.
what's up with Reggie? are he and Pierre enough to carry the load if Deuce is gone? does Payton gameplan to use Reggie differently this year?now you go.

 

[SproutDaddy]

We have to resign Vilma!!!

Deuce will probably stay on as a role player, but he will probably have to restructure his contract. I'd hate for them to cut him.

Considering our secondary woes, I'd love to see us sign someone like Brian Dawkins. I think he's a FA. He might be old, but we need leadership like what he brings on D. Mike Brown would look good in a Saints uni as well, IF tha Bears cut him.

I really wish we had that 2nd rounder that we gave for Shockey. He sux!! Miller and Campbell are adequate in that offense. I can't believe we traded for that headcase!

 

[SproutDaddy]

I was wrong about Deuce.

Does anyone know how much $ we have for free agents?

Any chance we get Vilma signed and have enough left to go after Gibril Wilson?

 

[The Man With No Name]

I was wrong about Deuce.Does anyone know how much $ we have for free agents?Any chance we get Vilma signed and have enough left to go after Gibril Wilson?

Looks like Darren Sharper will be one of the very first free agent signings- and the Saints are the team he will sign with.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Darren Sharper doesn't excite me very much.

 

[massraider]

Vilma re-signed, per Shefter. 5 years, 34 million.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Vilma re-signed, per Shefter. 5 years, 34 million.

Cha-ching!!

 

[ChuckLiddell]

How do the Saints fans feel about Robert Meachem?

I though he showed flashes last year. Been hanging onto him in a dynasty league with high hopes. With Patten gone, and Henderson possibly on the way out, I am still bullish on him. I would love to hear some homer opinions.

 

[valhallan]

How do the Saints fans feel about Robert Meachem?

Slow, whimpy, and lazy, in my opinion. Not a guy I'm targeting at all.

 

[myhousekey]

How do the Saints fans feel about Robert Meachem?

I'm looking more forward to seeing how Adrian Arrington looks this year.

 

[Gadabout]

Vilma re-signed, per Shefter. 5 years, 34 million.

You guys do realize we're gonna win the Superbowl within the next three years, right?

 

[Gadabout]

Jabari Greer

It's gonna be a good year, guys.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

resign Vilma? check.

sign a top cover CB? check.

we still need some help at FS, OLB, and C, but signing Greer gives us a lot more flexibility. we might be in a good position to trade back and pick up more picks.

 

[psychobillies]

I don't see any mention of resigning Stinchcomb. Behind Vilma, I think this was our biggest signing. I also love that we brought Devery back. I think the light went on for him last year.

I am really starting to warm up to the idea of Jenkins falling to us at 14, and playing him at FS. Porter, Greer, Jenkins, and Harper sounds like a pretty good secondary.

 

[SproutDaddy]

resign Vilma? check.sign a top cover CB? check.we still need some help at FS, OLB, and C, but signing Greer gives us a lot more flexibility. we might be in a good position to trade back and pick up more picks.

Trading down might be a good thing, but I wouldn't mind getting Cushing or Jenkins at 14. If Jenkins falls that far we could possibly try him at safety. Still, I wouldn't mind picking up a 2nd rounder.

 

[SproutDaddy]

If Henderson has been resigned does that mean Moore is likely gone? That would give us a pick in round 2, right?

 

[saintfool]

If Henderson has been resigned does that mean Moore is likely gone? That would give us a pick in round 2, right?

apparently, we have tendered him a fairly inexpensive offer. i expect that we will make cuts to get him back, if necessary. i'm not overly excited by devery re-signing. he's improved but he's still wildly inconsistent. i would rather see them make the investment in meachem and keep lance.imo, jenkins is a luxury at this point. i don't think you draft a guy to switch him. it's not something you do when you have a small window to make a SB run. honestly, i think we are going to trade down. if we can nab a guy like matthews and score a 2/3rd rounder in the process then i would be very pleased.

 

[Gadabout]

I don't see any mention of resigning Stinchcomb. Behind Vilma, I think this was our biggest signing. I also love that we brought Devery back. I think the light went on for him last year.I am really starting to warm up to the idea of Jenkins falling to us at 14, and playing him at FS. Porter, Greer, Jenkins, and Harper sounds like a pretty good secondary.

After all these years, I'm still not sure as to how I feel about Devery. That said, his ability to get his route down the field in a hurry is something that's nice to have, even though he may be too fast for Breesus' arm. And you're right, re-signing Stinch was huge. Haven't the slightest clue as to what we'll do with the 14.

 

[saintfool]

After all these years, I'm still not sure as to how I feel about Devery. That said, his ability to get his route down the field in a hurry is something that's nice to have, even though he may be too fast for Breesus' arm.

my problem with devery is the "stonehands" that he's good for at least once a game. he has superb straightaway speed but he's never willing to lay out for a catch. certainly doesn't catch in traffic. fight and/or jump for the catch? ha. he does one thing and one thing alone. it compliments colston well, however.

 

[Doug B]

Any of you guys hear Mike Golic's opinion this morning that the Saints were the best fit for Terrell Owens?

I don't know ... I just don't know. I can't bring myself to say "no way".

 

[TheFanatic]

Any of you guys hear Mike Golic's opinion this morning that the Saints were the best fit for Terrell Owens?I don't know ... I just don't know. I can't bring myself to say "no way".

I heard that and honestly, it seems to be the best place for him. Strong willed QB that can probably handle TO for a season, maybe two. Strong HC personality. Strong chance to make the playoffs. Pass happy team. Not the strongest D which leads to more passing. That could change overnight but that remains to be seen.

 

[saintfool]

Any of you guys hear Mike Golic's opinion this morning that the Saints were the best fit for Terrell Owens?I don't know ... I just don't know. I can't bring myself to say "no way".

no freakin way. he's going to the raiders or bengals, i think. siberia, essentially.

 

[Gadabout]

Any of you guys hear Mike Golic's opinion this morning that the Saints were the best fit for Terrell Owens?I don't know ... I just don't know. I can't bring myself to say "no way".

no freakin way. he's going to the raiders or bengals, i think. siberia, essentially.

I could think of a couple of positives with TO being in our offense.I could think of a lot more negatives. Must admit that I certainly would love to see Breesus rip him a new one on the sidelines like he did to Shockey.

 

[SproutDaddy]

After bringing in Shockey whom I hate, I would jump ship and quit watching football if they brought TO in. There aren't enough balls to keep his b?@* ### happy!

 

[psychobillies]

I honestly can't think of anything that the Saints need less than TO. He would be a completely unnecessary distraction.

 

[GregR_2]

Question for you Saints fans... should the Jabari Greer signing change all the mock drafts that have the Saints taking Vontae Davis in the 1st round?

 

[Zigg]

Question for you Saints fans... should the Jabari Greer signing change all the mock drafts that have the Saints taking Vontae Davis in the 1st round?

I would say yes. They now have MM, Gay, Porter and Greer at CB. Not a bad group at all. I think BPA on defense or O-Line, so pretty much anything is possible, including Vontae. With their lack of picks, trading down should be a possibility as well.In a nutshell, without an obvious FS, it's a very tough pick to mock.

 

[psychobillies]

Question for you Saints fans... should the Jabari Greer signing change all the mock drafts that have the Saints taking Vontae Davis in the 1st round?

Maybe. Mickey Loomis has always tried to fill in areas of need before the draft so that they won't have to press to take a certain position. Of course DT was still an area of "need" to some extent last year, but had we not been able to trade up we would have been fine taking Rivers or Mayo instead of Ellis. I'm thinking a guy like Cushing would be the absolute best case scenario now, but if there is a DB they like a lot more, they won't hesitate to take him.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

Wow!!! Great signing, and I agree with you. I can't see us possibly taking a back in the draft after this.

 

[saintfool]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

i think he's going to offer some flexibility to the running game. he has better hands than karney too. i don't necessarily think it spells the end of karney as FB but it does mean he's got to step up. he can he a wrecking ball, if he's motivated.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

i think he's going to offer some flexibility to the running game. he has better hands than karney too. i don't necessarily think it spells the end of karney as FB but it does mean he's got to step up. he can he a wrecking ball, if he's motivated.

Espn reported earlier today that Karney was released.

 

[saintfool]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

i think he's going to offer some flexibility to the running game. he has better hands than karney too. i don't necessarily think it spells the end of karney as FB but it does mean he's got to step up. he can he a wrecking ball, if he's motivated.

Espn reported earlier today that Karney was released.

i got a text from a buddy that broke the news to me. tells you how much the guy was loved by fans when you get a text at 9pm that tells you the news. kind of sad. one of my favorite saints memories is with karney actually.

 

[ratbast]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

I'm a Pats fan and a Pierre Thomas owner and I am happy Evens was signed. He has scored a total of 3 rushing TDs and 1 receiving TD since his rookie year, 2001. All 3 of his rushing TDs came in 2007.

 

[ratbast]

I think he was a great signing, just not a TD vulture. He's a gamer and will be missed in NE.

Anyone heard anything about Colston's surgery?

 

[PranksterJD]

Question for you Saints fans... should the Jabari Greer signing change all the mock drafts that have the Saints taking Vontae Davis in the 1st round?

I would say yes. They now have MM, Gay, Porter and Greer at CB. Not a bad group at all. I think BPA on defense or O-Line, so pretty much anything is possible, including Vontae. With their lack of picks, trading down should be a possibility as well.In a nutshell, without an obvious FS, it's a very tough pick to mock.

It gets easier when your mock allows them to trade down.

 

[Gadabout]

Saints just signed Heath Evans. He is a good fit as short yardage back that can lead the way for Pierre and Bush. Also, imo, this signing might indicate that the Saints' won't bring in another big back. Evans should be looked upon as a vulture.

i think he's going to offer some flexibility to the running game. he has better hands than karney too. i don't necessarily think it spells the end of karney as FB but it does mean he's got to step up. he can he a wrecking ball, if he's motivated.

Espn reported earlier today that Karney was released.

i got a text from a buddy that broke the news to me. tells you how much the guy was loved by fans when you get a text at 9pm that tells you the news. kind of sad. one of my favorite saints memories is with karney actually.

The 3-TD game against Dallas? I know he's had other "moments" and all, but that was his biggest on-the-field achievement.The Hammer of God was one of my favorite Saints. The last couple years he seemed to be missing something and I'm not sure what it was. What makes matters worse was that tonight was his wedding rehearsal. The Carnivore is gonna be missed.

Since such things are life, I can say that Evans will prolly bring more to the table and I can't wait to see him in action.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

the Cowgirls signed Sensabaugh this morning, so we must not have tried real hard to sign him. G3 coached him last year in JAX, so he must know something. I think we will try to sign Sharper for now, and then probably draft a safety that G3 can work with for the future.

 

[saintfool]

Saints agree to terms with SharperNEW ORLEANS (AP)—The New Orleans Saints have agreed to terms on a contract with veteran free-agent safety Darren Sharper.The 33-year-old Sharper has been selected four times to Pro Bowls during his 12-year career. He spent his first eight seasons in Green Bay and the past four in Minnesota, racking up 54 career interceptions, more than any active player.“Darren is an accomplished veteran player that brings a wealth of knowledge and ability to our secondary and has always possessed outstanding instincts and playmaking skills,” Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said.Terms of Sharper’s contract were not released.The Saints also announced that they have signed veteran free-agent tight end Darnell Dinkins to a one-year contract.Dinkins has spent his eight-year career with the New York Giants, Baltimore Ravens and Cleveland Browns, with 25 career receptions for 228 yards and three touchdowns. He also has experience on special teams.Sharper started all 16 regular-season games for the Vikings in 2008 as well as their playoff game. He finished with 79 tackles, an interception, five passes defended and two fumble recoveries.The Saints needed another safety after allowing Josh Bullocks to leave in free agency. Bullocks signed with Chicago.The Saints were looking for a defender who can make big plays. Sharper has returned eight interceptions for touchdowns during his career, and has scored twice on fumble recoveries.

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

 

[saintfool]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

i'm really not a fan of grabbing another CB in R1 this year. it's just not a pressing need for us, especially considering the questions we have at LB, DT and S. Talk of converting Jenkins to S is just silly, imo.my guess is that we trade down because at 1.14 we're in a prime location for a deal. we can get value later in the round without overpaying and get a R2 or 3 pick in the process.

 

[SproutDaddy]

All these defensive signings do worry me a little. If they go offense without trading down for more picks, I will be dissapointed.

 

[SproutDaddy]

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2009/03/re...saints_cut.html

Mike McKenzie has been cut.

 

[Gadabout]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

You tryin to say that Shanle can't tackle or somethin?

 

[saintfool]

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2009/03/re...saints_cut.html

Mike McKenzie has been cut.

interesting. i had expected a restructuring of his contract. he was in the last year of it and i thought he might be interested in playing longer in NOLA (even at a reduced price). he was a so-so CB. he seemed to prefer the INT instead of actually covering and defending against the pass.david might be next. most fans would welcome the release but he kind of came on down the stretch.

 

[saintfool]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

You tryin to say that Shanle can't tackle or somethin?

i think he actually played better than fujita last year. yeoman's effort despite limited abilities.

 

[Gadabout]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

You tryin to say that Shanle can't tackle or somethin?

i think he actually played better than fujita last year. yeoman's effort despite limited abilities.

Both had down years, but I can't stand seeing Shanle trying to make a tackle out in the open.I'm 30, white, and a smoker, but I guarantee you I can juke #58 out his cleats.

Dan Morgan = Comeback Player of the Decade

 

[saintfool]

looks like the Saints have upgraded substantially. even better news is that it gives us tremendous flexibility going into the draft. BPA now seems like obvious strategy but i'm hoping it is OLB, regardless.

I think if Jenkins is there at 14, then we grab him. if not, we should probably trade back, grab some extra picks, and still be able to draft an OLB and a S.

You tryin to say that Shanle can't tackle or somethin?

i think he actually played better than fujita last year. yeoman's effort despite limited abilities.

Both had down years, but I can't stand seeing Shanle trying to make a tackle out in the open.I'm 30, white, and a smoker, but I guarantee you I can juke #58 out his cleats.

Dan Morgan = Comeback Player of the Decade

i desperately want morgan to contribute meaningfully. the saints might be the only team in the league where a guy like shanle is a starter. unless crabtree falls to 1.14, i cannot see any reason to draft anyone other than a LB. it's the position we are thinnest and weakest at.

 

[Gadabout]

No doubt about Shanle. There's definitely some loyalty towards the guy.

LB should be addressed first, but history tells me we'll just end up picking something like a DE or RB. It'll definitely be interesting.

As long as Payton and Drew are still there, I'm not a fan of selecting any WR before the 5th round.

 

[saintfool]

No doubt about Shanle. There's definitely some loyalty towards the guy.

LB should be addressed first, but history tells me we'll just end up picking something like a DE or RB. It'll definitely be interesting.

As long as Payton and Drew are still there, I'm not a fan of selecting any WR before the 5th round.

i can see DT maybe but not DE. i don't see RB either. evans or bell could be the short yard specialist that the saints want.maybe CB now that mckenzie is gone but i think the depth is there to make it less a priority. Safety, sure, but no one is a good value at 1.14. OLB is the position of obvious need.