***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

I don't think McIntosh's problems are on the field. I think they're his knee (or knees?). He had a serious injury from what I recall, and there was some speculation that he'd soon be unable to play due to a chronic condition I believe. Having an average or above-average young LB on field is a definite plus for the team, and I'd like to see him here over the years. But his knees may not permit that, and I would not lock up a ton of money in risky knees.

 

[dgreen]

I don't think McIntosh's problems are on the field. I think they're his knee (or knees?). He had a serious injury from what I recall, and there was some speculation that he'd soon be unable to play due to a chronic condition I believe. Having an average or above-average young LB on field is a definite plus for the team, and I'd like to see him here over the years. But his knees may not permit that, and I would not lock up a ton of money in risky knees.

He had the ACL injury at the end of the 2007 season. Amazingly, he was ready at the start of '08 and hasn't missed a game since then. I'm no doctor, but it seems like he's ok.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

It's hard for me to get enthusiastic about a positive player rating when he's nearly invisible on the field. Seriously, what big/impact play has Rocky made this year? Is the fact that he's one of the rare guys in the defensive back seven who doesn't suck out loud mean that he's getting positive ratings?

I think in Rocky's case the positive rating simple indicates he's a solid WLB in the 'Skins system. They aren't just rating big play ability. His rating is simply a reflection of the fact that he's one of the top tacklers on the team and he doesn't get beat/burnt often by the opposition.ETA: Although, having an INT, a couple forced fumbles and a couple PDs, in addition to his tackle numbers, in just a half a season of play is pretty decent. IMO, the reason he's "invisible" is because he's doing what he's supposed to be doing during a season when everyone is so focused on everything that's wrong.ETA2: For all the grief we give the front office, it's probably only fair to point out that McIntosh appears to be one of the draft picks they got right (insert blind squirrel joke, if you want). He's a player, still on his rookie contract, that has been drafted and developed by the team and is a solid starter. He provides quality production without the exorbitant FA money generally thrown around by this team. Of course, if they want to continue to "get it right" they should be looking to extend him cheaply right about now.

I certainly don't hate Rocky, and I think I have enough cred in this thread for you to realize that I'm not going to trash things Redskin just for the sake of doing it. I do agree that that was a well-used draft pick, contrary to what many were saying at the time BTW. There's just not much to look to as a positive. I'll admit that I didn't know he'd put up those non-tackle numbers, so that's better than I thought.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I don't think McIntosh's problems are on the field. I think they're his knee (or knees?). He had a serious injury from what I recall, and there was some speculation that he'd soon be unable to play due to a chronic condition I believe. Having an average or above-average young LB on field is a definite plus for the team, and I'd like to see him here over the years. But his knees may not permit that, and I would not lock up a ton of money in risky knees.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Jason Campbell has been relatively efficient in the red zone.

Seven of his nine touchdowns have come inside the 20-yard line, and for the year Campbell is 15-for-26 for 104 yards and no interceptions (156.6 rating).

Opposing quarterbacks are 11-for-20 for 70 yards, four touchdowns and no interceptions (129.2 rating).

Link

So 7 of his 9 TDs are in the redzone. Those 2 other TDs are two long TDs by Moss (DET, TB). The problem is the in-between stuff. Even Tom Brady only has 2 TDs over 50 yards. He has 8 redzone TDs. So far, pretty even. But, he also has 6 TDs from 21-50 yards. Flacco has 7 redzone TDs and only 1 50+. He has 4 from 21-50. Matt Ryan? 7 redzone, 2 50+, 4 from 21-50. I know, I know. Campbell's no Brady, Flacco, or Ryan. But still.This team has many, many problems and one of those problems is the ability to score TDs any other way than being really close to the endzone or having your fastest guy get a really long TD. I think this is created by Campbell's unwillingness to try certain throws and the lack of playmakers. Well, duh, we've all known that about this team. But, it's just another stat.

See, this is where we start having huge disconnects on Campbell. Recently, people were criticizing Campbell as the leader of an offense that could move between the 20's but stalled in the red zone.

Now, with these stats, Campbell's being criticized for "only" being efficient in the red zone but not hitting big plays between the 20's.

Regardless, I'd still like to hear how in the hell someone is supposed to take advantage of Moss's speed by hitting pass plays of 20+ yards (in the air) when they're getting crushed even on three-step drops.

Again, Campbell's an easy scapegoat, but this offense has much bigger problems than him.

 

[dgreen]

Again, Campbell's an easy scapegoat, but this offense has much bigger problems than him.

Obviously the OL is the #1 problem. I didn't think that needed to be said. After that, I mentioned two issues: Campbell and the lack of playmakers. Many of these types of TDs are the result of a playmaker catching a 15-yard pass and getting 20 YAC and getting to the endzone. We don't have that. But, we also don't have a QB (or maybe it's the playcalling) who attacks the endzone when they're in range. Last year, when Campbell had good protection for at least part of the season, Campbell had zero TDs from that 21-50 range. He had two bombs and 11 redzone TDs. Again, that's on the playmakers too. Nobody on this team can catch a quick slant and score from 30 yards out.Speaking of QBs getting pounded, the Packers have no problems producing these type of TDs. They have some bigtime OL problems, but they've still produced 7 redzone TDs, 6 from 21-50 yards, and 3 50+ yard TDs. Rodgers has some attributes Campbell doesn't and they have better playmakers.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I certainly don't hate Rocky, and I think I have enough cred in this thread for you to realize that I'm not going to trash things Redskin just for the sake of doing it. I do agree that that was a well-used draft pick, contrary to what many were saying at the time BTW. There's just not much to look to as a positive. I'll admit that I didn't know he'd put up those non-tackle numbers, so that's better than I thought.

Sorry. I wasn't intending any of that to take any shots at you, GB. I'm just trying to keep one of the few positive aspects of this organization (IMO) from getting lost in the lake of crap.I think 12-18 months ago, the knee issues were a legitimate concern. I'm not convinced they still should be given how he returned last year and how he's playing now. I agree with dgreen here, in that I wouldn't mind a bit if Rocky were still plugging away at WLB for the 'Skins 3-4 years from now.

 

[Sidewinder16]

So did anyone else get "the survey"? I just filled one out.

 

[dgreen]

So did anyone else get "the survey"? I just filled one out.

No. I want one.

 

[dgreen]

I heard the line for this week moved from WAS +5 to WAS +3.5. Is there actually a chance for an upset this week?

 

[Sidewinder16]

I heard the line for this week moved from WAS +5 to WAS +3.5. Is there actually a chance for an upset this week?

Charlie Casserly said he thinks there's a chance (he did a bit on CSN earlier this week). His reasoning was because of the recent problems Denver has been having on offense. I think their front 7 eat the 'Skins OL alive, though. It might be a 3-0 game. Or maybe even 2-0.

 

[fatness]

3-0

December 11 at RFK Stadium: Jets 3 - Redskins 0

That is not a misprint. The Jets got a 45-yard field goal from Cary Blanchard in the first quarter and that was it for the scoring. Blanchard almost attempted another one late in the first half, but the snap hit holder Louie Agular in the head. As it turned out, Agular made the game-saving play by tackling Johnny Thomas, who had picked up the loose ball. You could make the case that this was the worst game in the history of the NFL.

Worst game in the history of the NFL.

 

[dgreen]

3-0

December 11 at RFK Stadium: Jets 3 - Redskins 0

That is not a misprint. The Jets got a 45-yard field goal from Cary Blanchard in the first quarter and that was it for the scoring. Blanchard almost attempted another one late in the first half, but the snap hit holder Louie Agular in the head. As it turned out, Agular made the game-saving play by tackling Johnny Thomas, who had picked up the loose ball. You could make the case that this was the worst game in the history of the NFL.

Worst game in the history of the NFL.

I remember watching that game. It was on a Saturday, IIRC. Good times. I definitely remember the FG snap going off the holder's head. I'm pretty sure he was looking back at the kicker when the ball was snapped.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I heard the line for this week moved from WAS +5 to WAS +3.5. Is there actually a chance for an upset this week?

Charlie Casserly said he thinks there's a chance (he did a bit on CSN earlier this week). His reasoning was because of the recent problems Denver has been having on offense. I think their front 7 eat the 'Skins OL alive, though. It might be a 3-0 game. Or maybe even 2-0.

Jason La Canfora's storyline:Washington might be stuck on two wins for quite some time, and the empty-seats ratio will likely soar as the temperature drops. Kyle Orton returns to the place of his first-ever start. Washington's pass protection issues are epic and the Broncos could win this game without scoring an offensive point. Once Elvis (Dumervil) enters this building, you're going to have a heck of a time getting him to leave against the worst set of tackles in the NFL.

 

[jbz]

Again, Campbell's an easy scapegoat, but this offense has much bigger problems than him.

Indeed, but Campbell has zero ability to try to mask those problems and raise the level of play of the O in general. Big Ben was under duress a lot last year on the way to another Super Bowl win. Aaron Rodgers is constantly getting sacked but still putting up big numbers. I'm not expecting Campbell to be a HOF QB, but he needs things to be set up pretty perfectly in order for him to succeed. And even when they are, he still has either no balls or no vision to do so. Again, I'll point out the non-throw to Moss on the pump and go vs Philly. To make matters worst, he checked down to ARE across the middle who was also wide open and missed him too. He is horrible

 

[dgreen]

I heard the line for this week moved from WAS +5 to WAS +3.5. Is there actually a chance for an upset this week?

Charlie Casserly said he thinks there's a chance (he did a bit on CSN earlier this week). His reasoning was because of the recent problems Denver has been having on offense. I think their front 7 eat the 'Skins OL alive, though. It might be a 3-0 game. Or maybe even 2-0.

Jason La Canfora's storyline:...the empty-seats ratio will likely soar as the temperature drops....

Supposed to be upper 60s and partly cloudy Sunday. Perfect weather. The question is: Should I wear my Champ Bailey jersey to the game?

 

[Dexter Manley]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.

1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR

2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.

My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

 

[Marvelous]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

I do see a lot of other teams with issues on the Oline, but they still have an offense. Even with Thomas and Samuels, the run blocking was not good. The pass blocking has become attrocious once those two were injured.

 

[fatness]

Supposed to be upper 60s and partly cloudy Sunday. Perfect weather. The question is: Should I wear my Champ Bailey jersey to the game?

No, wear your "Sell The Team" shirt.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

Um, and then there's the small issue of the receivers. James Jones would be a WR2 on the 'Skins. He's vying with Jordie Nelson for WR3 in Green Bay. Just as with Roethlisberger, you can pontificate all you want about poor o-lines and taking sacks, but Campbell has only crap to throw to, and even when they are getting separation they're dropping everything.

 

[jbz]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

So what was the excuse for JC when the OL was playing well? He still was average at best. Too conservative, can't read the D, won't take chances with the ball.

 

[jbz]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

Um, and then there's the small issue of the receivers. James Jones would be a WR2 on the 'Skins. He's vying with Jordie Nelson for WR3 in Green Bay. Just as with Roethlisberger, you can pontificate all you want about poor o-lines and taking sacks, but Campbell has only crap to throw to, and even when they are getting separation they're dropping everything.

Chicken or the egg right here. How can any of us truly evaluate these WRs with the poor OL/QB play? Is it the WRs are bad or the QB is bad? Santana Moss has several big seasons under his belt so it can't be just him turning into a bad WR. I'm sure if we swapped the Skins WRs with Green Bay's or Pittsburgh's, that they would look better and those WRs would struggle here.

 

[Sebowski]

Just saw this on ES

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=308001

Redskins nation just a few minutes ago, had a segment with Sam Huff and they were talking about the hit Landry gave Ryan and the scuffle on the sidelines.

They showed a locker room interview with Laron that happened yesterday. Someone asked him if the team needs to go back to the basics of tackling and he said somewhere along the lines of:

"No we dont, its all about attitude. You have hitters and you have tacklers."

Some guy asked him which one are you and his response:

"I'm a little bit of both. You know, I'm a smart tackler... let's put it that way."

I don't know whether to or

 

[PantherPower]

roids aren't good for the brain Laron...

 

[Marvelous]

Just saw that Portis is out and Rinehart is probably starting at RG.

Link

 

[Sebowski]

Just saw that Portis is out and Rinehart is probably starting at RG.

Link

And Betts barely practiced. I hope the defense shows up Sunday. I just put some money on Under 37

 

[fatness]

And Betts barely practiced. I hope the defense shows up Sunday. I just put some money on Under 37

# of minutes the defense will be on the field?

 

[fatness]

Karl Swanson, Dan Snyder's guard

Interesting article. It goes a long way to explain why (besides losing a lot) the Redskins suck at public relations.

Dave McKenna, a writer for the Washington City Paper (and a contributor of music reviews to The Post), has seen Swanson at his most aggressive. After the City Paper published McKenna's list of what he termed Snyder's biggest mistakes as Redskins owner in 2002, Swanson disputed the accuracy of each of the 70 items. He spelled out his objections in a lengthy document that included a demand for a series of corrections. The paper stood by McKenna's reporting.

McKenna, who has written critically about Snyder for years, says he found it "bizarre" that "the right-hand man of a billionaire owner of a huge organization [was] using up all these resources to go after a reporter for an alternative weekly."

Over the years, Swanson's approach to media relations has alienated some of the Redskins' own public relations staff. The team has had seven directors of communications during Snyder's 11-year ownership, a rate that exceeds the turnover in the head coaching job (Swanson has overall responsibility for communications, but the day-to-day promotion is handled by a team PR executive).

One of the former PR directors, John Konoza, lasted three days. His replacement, John Maroon, lasted a year.

"Simply put, I left because we had a difference of philosophy about how to deal with the press," says Maroon, who runs a public-relations agency in the Baltimore area. "I have always believed in the notion of building relationships in a spirit of cooperation. . . . If you think you hold all the cards, then by all means don't bother. But it will come back to bite you."

Swanson's colleagues describe him as a constant presence at the team's headquarters at Redskins Park, and in his case, this may be literally true. According to public records, Swanson lists Redskins Park as his home address. One co-worker said Swanson keeps an air mattress at his office to sleep on, and stores some clothes on a rack in his car.

vroom vroom

 

[fatness]

Sally Jenkins's long article on John Riggins, a vastly interesting guy.

To his listeners Riggins is a truth teller, a voice-of-the-revolution and, as he puts it, "a little bit of a radical." To critics he's just an opportunist out to build the audience for his WTOP radio show, "The Riggo Report." He pleads guilty to all charges -- and he has no intention of hitting mute.

"I certainly can be diplomatic if I want to, but the chances are that I probably don't really want to, 'cause it takes too much energy," he says.

In the course of a conversation he references Robert Frost, Che Guevara and Crazy Horse. He comes across as scathing, literate -- he's an accomplished actor who performed Shakespeare on stage in New York to decent reviews -- and an equal mix of self-serving and self-mocking. Only rarely does he regret what he says.

When Lisa Marie first met Riggins in the late 1980s, he was living in a warehouse and using his trophies as doorstops. She gaped at the scuffed, dented awards. Riggins had unscrewed all the plates with his name on them. When she asked him why, he said, "I don't want people to walk in here and think I'm trying to say, 'Look what I've done.' "

The New York Jets liberated him in 1971, drafting him in the first round out of the University of Kansas. He arrived in New York a half-resentful hayseed, 6 feet 2 and 230 pounds of bullishness with a tendency to carouse to cover up his insecurities. "Truthfully I was extremely lucky. There ain't many guys with my physical talent ever played, that's just a hard cold fact," he says. "I was a jerk-off, lazy, didn't practice, probably drank too much."

 

[dgreen]

Karl Swanson, Dan Snyder's guard

Interesting article. It goes a long way to explain why (besides losing a lot) the Redskins suck at public relations.

Dave McKenna, a writer for the Washington City Paper (and a contributor of music reviews to The Post), has seen Swanson at his most aggressive. After the City Paper published McKenna's list of what he termed Snyder's biggest mistakes as Redskins owner in 2002, Swanson disputed the accuracy of each of the 70 items. He spelled out his objections in a lengthy document that included a demand for a series of corrections. The paper stood by McKenna's reporting.

McKenna, who has written critically about Snyder for years, says he found it "bizarre" that "the right-hand man of a billionaire owner of a huge organization [was] using up all these resources to go after a reporter for an alternative weekly."

Over the years, Swanson's approach to media relations has alienated some of the Redskins' own public relations staff. The team has had seven directors of communications during Snyder's 11-year ownership, a rate that exceeds the turnover in the head coaching job (Swanson has overall responsibility for communications, but the day-to-day promotion is handled by a team PR executive).

One of the former PR directors, John Konoza, lasted three days. His replacement, John Maroon, lasted a year.

"Simply put, I left because we had a difference of philosophy about how to deal with the press," says Maroon, who runs a public-relations agency in the Baltimore area. "I have always believed in the notion of building relationships in a spirit of cooperation. . . . If you think you hold all the cards, then by all means don't bother. But it will come back to bite you."

Swanson's colleagues describe him as a constant presence at the team's headquarters at Redskins Park, and in his case, this may be literally true. According to public records, Swanson lists Redskins Park as his home address. One co-worker said Swanson keeps an air mattress at his office to sleep on, and stores some clothes on a rack in his car.

vroom vroom

Oof.

 

[dgreen]

Just saw that Portis is out and Rinehart is probably starting at RG.

Link

So, Vinny's upset that everyone has labeled Rinehart a bust and he must now show him off like he did with Mike Williams?

 

[fatness]

Just saw that Portis is out and Rinehart is probably starting at RG.

Link

So, Vinny's upset that everyone has labeled Rinehart a bust and he must now show him off like he did with Mike Williams?

You have to give Vinnie credit. Nobody drafts or signs turnstiles like he does.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I keep seeing people pointing out how Aaron Rodgers puts up great #'s behind a bad oline. 2 things need to be pointed out.1) JC isn't in the same stratosphere as AR2) As bad as Green Bay's oline is, it's still light years better than the Redskins. Seriously, would Rabach or Dockery even start on Green Bay's line? I know none of the other Redskins starters would even make Green Bay's team.My point: Just stop with the comparison's of our oline to other teams that have bad olines, because there is no comparison. Right now I would contend this is one of the worst olines in the history of the league. It's that bad.

So what was the excuse for JC when the OL was playing well? He still was average at best. Too conservative, can't read the D, won't take chances with the ball.

I completely agree. Look at the first half of last season. It's pretty clear to me that's his ceiling. I'll admit I was wrong when I had previously thought that he would develop into solid qb.

 

[Sidewinder16]

You can tell this season really sucks. It's Saturday afternoon and none of us are talking about this weekend's game. We know what's coming.

Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I've noticed that I've become more and more numb to what is going on in Redskinsland. I know it is not that I don't care because I do, but I can't get up in arms about anything either. I think I'm just numb to all! Anyone else there or getting there?

I guess I'm trying to make sure that I'm not the only one rowing this boat.

 

[fatness]

So now Portis still has ringing in his head, and might be out for several games. Or maybe the season.

Betts will fill in just fine, though. Oh, wait, he's hurt.

Cartwright will fill in just............................................................

 

[fatness]

I've noticed that I've become more and more numb to what is going on in Redskinsland. I know it is not that I don't care because I do, but I can't get up in arms about anything either. I think I'm just numb to all! Anyone else there or getting there?I guess I'm trying to make sure that I'm not the only one rowing this boat.

We're going to need a bigger boat.

 

[fatness]

In last week's 31-17 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, Betts provided a spark in the running game rarely seen in the Redskins' past 16 games. After relieving top back Clinton Portis, who suffered a concussion in the first quarter, Betts rushed for a team-high 70 yards (he had a 4.7-yard average) and his first touchdown. He tied Portis and punter Hunter Smith for the team lead in rushing touchdowns.

Link

 

[fatness]

Reported on ESPN980, the Sports Reporters:

Vinnie, on his morning show today, told Mel Kiper he was going himself to scout the Pitt/Notre Dame game this weekend. Vinnie asked Kiper if he was going, Kiper replied that he had a radio show to do at that time. Vinnie offered to call Kiper's show from the game.

Seriously.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I've noticed that I've become more and more numb to what is going on in Redskinsland. I know it is not that I don't care because I do, but I can't get up in arms about anything either. I think I'm just numb to all! Anyone else there or getting there?

Been that way for weeks now. I don't even worry about checking the score. I accept the fact they have lost and, when I'm done doing stuff around the house, running errands, visiting family, whatever, I come home and catch the score during whatever game may be on to confirm what I already know. I live in San Antonio. The two Dallas weeks will be unbearable. Not due to ribbing or anything, my wife and others know that even during a good season, I don't take credit for wins or accept credits for losses. I just watch the game and what happens, happens. But listening to them yell and cheer every time Dallas hangs another score, it will just be eardrum shattering.

 

[buster c]

3-0

December 11 at RFK Stadium: Jets 3 - Redskins 0

That is not a misprint. The Jets got a 45-yard field goal from Cary Blanchard in the first quarter and that was it for the scoring. Blanchard almost attempted another one late in the first half, but the snap hit holder Louie Agular in the head. As it turned out, Agular made the game-saving play by tackling Johnny Thomas, who had picked up the loose ball. You could make the case that this was the worst game in the history of the NFL.

Worst game in the history of the NFL.

I remember watching that game. It was on a Saturday, IIRC. Good times. I definitely remember the FG snap going off the holder's head. I'm pretty sure he was looking back at the kicker when the ball was snapped.

I was at RFK for this classic. I used to give an usher at the gate a 10-spot for non-ticketed entry and sit at the top of the stairway of the upper deck, 40 yd line or so. No pat downs, so a pint of hooch kept me warm on cold days. '93 was a bad team, but not the hopelessness that defines the era of the very little man and

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I've noticed that I've become more and more numb to what is going on in Redskinsland. I know it is not that I don't care because I do, but I can't get up in arms about anything either. I think I'm just numb to all! Anyone else there or getting there?I guess I'm trying to make sure that I'm not the only one rowing this boat.

We're going to need a bigger boat.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Vinnie, on his morning show today, told Mel Kiper he was going himself to scout the Pitt/Notre Dame game this weekend. Vinnie asked Kiper if he was going, Kiper replied that he had a radio show to do at that time to wash his hair. Vinnie offered to call Kiper's show from the game.

Fixed.

 

[fatness]

Broncos!

What you gonna do when Rinehart-O-Mania runs wild on you?

 

[southeastjerome]

Over/Under on Dumervil sacks today: 2.5

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Over/Under on Dumervil sacks today: 2.5

Starting him in IDP. I'd put the limit on 6 sacks for him, just out of sheer exhaustion.

 

[TxBuckeye]

WASHINGTON -- The Washington Redskins are doing an about-face on preventing fans from bringing any signs to home games.

NFC East blog

The Redskins issued a news release about 2½ hours before Sunday's game against the visiting Denver Broncos to say they "revised" their stadium sign policy.

Owner Dan Snyder said in the statement that he understands that "some fans want to express their feelings with signs and they should do so, as long as they stay within the boundaries of good taste and don't block the view of other fans."

Last month, the team banned spectators from carrying any signs or banners into its stadium, citing fan security and comfort. That policy had coincided with an increase of signs critical of Snyder and front office chief Vinny Cerrato.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

issued a news release about 2½ hours before Sunday's game

They never miss a trick.

 

[dgreen]

issued a news release about 2½ hours before Sunday's game

They never miss a trick.

Saw several of those Dumb and Dumber shirts and one group in the section right in front of Snyder's suite had a long "Worst Owner Ever" sign that they unveiled in final few minutes of the game.

 

[Sebowski]

You can tell this season really sucks. It's Sunday afternoon after beating a 6-2 team and none of us are talking about this weekend's game. We know what's coming.

Fixed.