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**** OFFICIAL 2010 San Diego Chargers Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Interesting weekend for the Chargers. I'm sure most of you have read Acee's take on the 1st 2 preseason games, but here it is for discussion purposes.

Midway through the preseason ...

By Kevin Acee, UNION-TRIBUNE

Sunday, August 22, 2010 at 7:12 p.m.

The preseason is halfway over. The Chargers play their next two games on the road, beginning Friday in New Orleans in about as highly anticipated a game as any preseason tilt could be.

Of course, they're playing Drew Brees and the defending Super Bowl champions. More important, training camp wraps up Monday, and the Chargers will treat the lead-up to Friday and the game itself as a virtual regular-season game.

They did the same thing to positive effect for last year's third preseason game in Atlanta.

The practice and meeting schedule will be the same as a short game week. Starters and key reserves will play three quarters.

And while not to the extent they would for the regular season, coaches will devise an actual game plan based on their scouting of the Saints. Coaches met Sunday and began that work, in addition to breaking down Saturday's game against the Dallas Cowboys.

Here are some of the things to take out of the 16-14 loss to Dallas and also some insight based on observations and conversations I've had over the past couple days:

• The Chargers can run. Excluding the three carries inside the 5-yard line by Ryan Mathews and Philip Rivers and Legedu Naanee's eight-yard loss on an end around, the Chargers rushed 18 times for 76 yards while the first-team offensive line and the Cowboys' first-team defense was in. That's a 4.2-yard average, almost a full yard improvement over last year's regular-season average.

• Rookie receiver Jeremy Williams has plateaued. Not only has he been underwhelming after impressing everyone all spring and to start training camp, he should have prevented Cletis Gordon's interception of Jonathan Crompton by coming back to break up the underthrown pass. Despite being in a good portion of the game, he didn't have any receptions. While fellow undrafted rookie Seyi Ajirotutu has stepped up in practice and games (3-for-71 Saturday), Williams has leveled off.

• Provided Buster Davis remains healthy, it could a three-man race for the final wide receiver spot -- between veteran Josh Reed, Ajirotutu and Williams. That's right, the Chargers could keep just four receivers. They have pass-catchers and excellent runners in tight ends Antonio Gates, Randy McMichael and Kris Wilson, and they might need to make room for an extra linebacker, defensive back and/or defensive lineman.

• Another place the Chargers could trim is at tailback. Curtis Brinkley didn't get in the game at all. Shawnbrey McNeal and Marcus Mason are not separating themselves. With Mike Tolbert looking so strong as a runner, the Chargers could keep just Mathews, Darren Sproles and fullbacks Jacob Hester and Tolbert.

• You have to like Antonio Garay as the starter at nose tackle. He is strong and quick. Signed off the New York Jets' practice squad late last season, if he can avoid the injuries that have plagued him in his career, he could be one of the big surprises of this season. That said, rookie Cam Thomas performed well again on Saturday. He's just not as experienced as Garay.

• No, the Chargers didn't get any sacks. But Tony Romo got the ball out quick after the first series -- as in, after he got leveled by Stephen Cooper as he let fly a pass that would be intercepted by safety Eric Weddle. Excellent game by Weddle, by the way.

• Rookie safety Darrell Stuckey, playing in the second half, wasn't good and wasn't horrible. He missed almost two weeks. Norv Turner said it wouldn't make a big difference, and it probably won't long-term. But it did on Saturday.

• Don't count on Shawne Merriman being back to work Monday or playing in Friday's game. The Chargers are trying to make sure when he comes back he doesn't have to take a practice off every few days (or worse). So they'll wait until they're convinced the Achilles' that has sidelined him since Wednesday is calmed down enough to

• Inside linebacker James Holt could be out for New Orleans after leaving Saturday's game with what I think was a leg bruise. However, Brandon Siler should be back after X-rays Sunday showed his foot is OK.

• Yes, "senior executive" Randy Mueller was at the Seattle Seahawks' home game against the Green Bay Packers on Saturday. Certainly, he was assessing Seahawks players. But before too many lines are drawn, understand that Mueller lives in Seattle and this game has been on his docket for weeks. Furthermore, unless Jackson's camp comes down in dollars and/or years, that trade is never happening. The Chargers have not even officially given the Seahawks any requirements for trade. The second-round pick I reported is what I heard the Seahawks were floating around league circles.
I think Ajirotutu has looked much better than his competition for WR4.Interesting take on the NT situation with Garay. I hope he can play this week to get a better look at him.

Rivera was dialing up some interesting blitzes, but it seemed like it was taking too many guys to get not enough pressure. Had Romo been more accurate things would have gone worse for the Charger D.

Cason looks better as a tackler and run stopper than a coverage guy so far - like the opposite of Cromartie, or a Jammer lite.

Could be a big year for Weddle.

Tolbert looked surprisingly good at tail back. I think he'll actually steal a few more carries from Matthews (who also looks good - not great) than I thought. Especially if Matthews is going to experience the kind of massive failure he displayed pass blocking Saturday - that hit he allowed on Rivers may mean he's not going to be seen in passing situations much.

Naanee and Gates have great hands (I know - newsflash). For FF I think I'd rather have Naanee than any of the other WR.

The o line held up better than I expected and seemed to be opening up more/larger gaps in the run game than last year.

 
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Hey SD homers,

Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?

They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.

 
Hey SD homers,Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.
I don't know that I'd want to depend on them as an every week start at D until I see more from them. Tons of question marks all over the place. Depending on your league scoring they'd be a good defense to play match ups with, but I don't know that they'll end up near the front of the league in sacks/turnovers for the season.
 
Hey SD homers,Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.
I don't know that I'd want to depend on them as an every week start at D until I see more from them. Tons of question marks all over the place. Depending on your league scoring they'd be a good defense to play match ups with, but I don't know that they'll end up near the front of the league in sacks/turnovers for the season.
Their problems in the past few years have been pressure on the QB and tackling. I haven't seen much in the first two preseason games that indicates major progress in those areas. So IMO, you won't be getting may sacks from the D and they will continue to give up too many points.
 
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Gr00vus said:
NajehHejan said:
Hey SD homers,Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.
I don't know that I'd want to depend on them as an every week start at D until I see more from them. Tons of question marks all over the place. Depending on your league scoring they'd be a good defense to play match ups with, but I don't know that they'll end up near the front of the league in sacks/turnovers for the season.
Their problems in the past few years have been pressure on the QB and tackling. I haven't seen much in the first two preseason games that indicates major progress in those areas. So IMO, you won't be getting may sacks from the D and they will continue to give up too many points.
Thanks for the insight
 
Hey SD homers,Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.
I don't know that I'd want to depend on them as an every week start at D until I see more from them. Tons of question marks all over the place. Depending on your league scoring they'd be a good defense to play match ups with, but I don't know that they'll end up near the front of the league in sacks/turnovers for the season.
Their problems in the past few years have been pressure on the QB and tackling. I haven't seen much in the first two preseason games that indicates major progress in those areas. So IMO, you won't be getting may sacks from the D and they will continue to give up too many points.
Thanks for the insight
Just watched the first half against the saints. I continue to be very concerned about the pass rush. Even with the blitz they only had pressure on brees twice: once was a penalty for roughing the passer and the other was a sack that brees should have read and avoided by dumping the ball. Thankfully the sd offense looks solid. They are going to need a lot of points even against the soft schedule.
 
Hey SD homers,Are the Chargers a decent Defense to pick up for fantasy purposes?They have a fairly easy schedule. Wondering how their secondary is looking and if they’re going to be able to get any pressure up front.
I don't know that I'd want to depend on them as an every week start at D until I see more from them. Tons of question marks all over the place. Depending on your league scoring they'd be a good defense to play match ups with, but I don't know that they'll end up near the front of the league in sacks/turnovers for the season.
Their problems in the past few years have been pressure on the QB and tackling. I haven't seen much in the first two preseason games that indicates major progress in those areas. So IMO, you won't be getting may sacks from the D and they will continue to give up too many points.
Thanks for the insight
Just watched the first half against the saints. I continue to be very concerned about the pass rush. Even with the blitz they only had pressure on brees twice: once was a penalty for roughing the passer and the other was a sack that brees should have read and avoided by dumping the ball. Thankfully the sd offense looks solid. They are going to need a lot of points even against the soft schedule.
I completely agree with you. I was hoping English would be having some impact by now. People seem really worried about what happens to Merriman but until I see different he's just "a guy" out there. People even considering the franchise tag on him must be smoking something. I'd rather use English in a rotation with Merriman/Phillips to evaluate if they need to go out and get a pass rusher next year and abandon them both.It's a bad sign when you have little to no pass rush and you are adding CB's off the waiver wire. I have a sinking feeling people that are patting themselves on the back for getting rid of the problem child Cromartie are going to find out we didn't really have enough help in the secondary and couldn't afford to lose him.The only positive I see for the defense this year is the team seems to be saying all the right things about the running game and hopefully the defense won't be on the field as much. Hopefully the combination of schedule and young legs by Mathew can take the air out of the ball with some of those favorable matchups.
 
Just watched the first half against the saints. I continue to be very concerned about the pass rush. Even with the blitz they only had pressure on brees twice: once was a penalty for roughing the passer and the other was a sack that brees should have read and avoided by dumping the ball. Thankfully the sd offense looks solid. They are going to need a lot of points even against the soft schedule.
I completely agree with you. I was hoping English would be having some impact by now. People seem really worried about what happens to Merriman but until I see different he's just "a guy" out there. People even considering the franchise tag on him must be smoking something. I'd rather use English in a rotation with Merriman/Phillips to evaluate if they need to go out and get a pass rusher next year and abandon them both.
Yes. Merriman can't be counted on; Phillips is pretty ordinary without Merriman at his best; and while Larry English reportedly looked great early in training camp, he didn't make an impact in any of the preseason games. The only rush the Chargers are getting is by blitzing the ILBs or safeties. That's not a good sign.
It's a bad sign when you have little to no pass rush and you are adding CB's off the waiver wire. I have a sinking feeling people that are patting themselves on the back for getting rid of the problem child Cromartie are going to find out we didn't really have enough help in the secondary and couldn't afford to lose him.
I think the team is much better off without Cromartie. Jammer, Cason, and Strickland are solid. Vasher has been disappointing as the fourth CB, but I think he'll hurt the team (if he makes it) less than Cromartie.
 
Think Brinkley makes the squad? He's looked very good so far this preseason. Do they have room for a 5th rb? I think he plays ST, right?

Not happy with the offensive line. I think we may have stayed at the party too long with Dielman and Hardwick - 2006 really looks like a fluke for those guys.

I think this'll be a down year for the squad. Still favored to win the division, but I don't think they're very far ahead of the other AFC West teams right now (their biggest advantage is the other 3 teams don't have anyone close to Rivers's at QB) and I don't see this team making much noise in the playoffs.

I think Tolbert is going to get more carries than most people are counting on. He's looked really good running the ball.

 
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The Chargers are keeping just 2 QBs, 4 RBs, and 4 WRs. They're skimping at all those positions, releasing QB Crompton, RBs McNeal and Brinkley, WRs Ajirotutu and Williams.

OLB Brandon Lang made the team. That's good news.

Eight defensive linemen made the team. (I'm glad Alphonso Boone and Travis Johnson made it. If they were going to cut anybody, I wanted it to be Cesaire.)

I really hope they can sign Ajirotutu to the practice squad. Crompton, too. And Williams. And Brinkley.

They'll probably pick up another OT after the other teams have all made their cuts.

 
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The Chargers are keeping just 2 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 WRs, and 3 CBs. They're skimping at all those positions, releasing QB Crompton, RBs McNeal and Brinkley, WRs Ajirotutu and Williams, and CB Vasher. (Vasher looked done, so that's not much of a surprise.)
That's just shocking to me.I'm not saying Cromartie was a choir boy, just that they didn't have the depth to get rid of him. We'll see. They want to get through the AFC and Indy in particular with three CB's when everyone is healthy? Good luck with that AJ.

I'm not that surprised about WR since Norv has mentioned he'd like to use more 2-TE sets(which I'm all for). RB is a position you can pick up a FA and plug in if there's an injury. If Rivers goes down the season is over anyway so I'm not worried too much about the 2 QB's either.

I think you really need three starting caliber CB's in todays game that's all about finding mismatches in the secondary. SD has three on their roster, and only one is proven. Until a year or so ago even that guy seemed to get burned or penalized at the most inopportune times.

 
Gotta believe there are some FA signings coming.
They signed Fred Bennett but even if they add another guy how long will it be until these guys are up to speed? It's not entirely unheard of for two guys at the same position to get injured during a game.
 
53 man roster. Note there are six CBs (and 5 S) on the roster - not 3.

Quarterbacks (2)

Philip Rivers; Billy Volek

Running backs (4)

Ryan Mathews; Jacob Hester; Darren Sproles; Mike Tolbert

Tight ends (3)

Antonio Gates; Randy McMichael; Kris Wilson

Wide receivers (4)

Patrick Crayton; Buster Davis; Malcom Floyd; Legedu Naanee

Offensive line (8)

Jeromey Clary; Kris Dielman; Brandyn Dombrowski; Tyronne Green; Nick Hardwick; Scott Mruczkowski; Ryan Otterson; Louis Vasquez

Defensive line (8)

Alfonso Boone; Luis Castillo; Jacques Cesaire; Antonio Garay; Travis Johnson; Vaughn Martin; Ogemdi Nwagbuo; Cam Thomas

Linebackers (10)

Antwan Applewhite; Kevin Burnett; Stephen Cooper; Larry English; James Holt; Brandon Lang; Shawne Merriman; Shaun Phillips; Brandon Siler; Jyles Tucker

Cornerbacks (6)

Fred Bennett; Antoine Cason; Dante Hughes; Brandon Hughes; Donald Strickland; Quentin Jammer.

Safeties (5)

Steve Gregory; Paul Oliver; C.J. Spillman; Darrell Stuckey; Eric Weddle

Punter

Mike Scifres

Kicker

Nate Kaeding

Long snapper

Dave Binn
 
Chargers sign OT and fill their practice squad.

Chargers add tackle, sign eight to practice squad

By Kevin Acee, UNION-TRIBUNE

Sunday, September 5, 2010 at 12:43 p.m.

The Chargers have added veteran Adam Terry to the mix at offensive tackle and have released rookie Ryan Otterson.

Terry has been plagued by injuries during his career and did not play in 2009 following microfracture (knee) surgery.

He signed with the Indianapolis Colts this offseason after not receiving a restricted free agent tender from the Baltimore Ravens, who drafted him in 2005. The Colts cut him on Friday.

Terry (6-8, 335) made 18 starts for the Ravens. He can play on both sides and will be a backup, along with Tyronne Green, to left tackle Brandyn Dombrowski and right tackle Jeromey Clary.

The Chargers also signed running back Curtis Brinkley, quarterback Jonathon Crompton, tight end Dedrick Epps, guard Jeff Hansen, tackle Nick Richmond, linebacker Kion Wilson and wide receivers Seyi Ajirotutu and Richard Goodman to the practice squad.
Good to see they managed to hold on to Brinkley, Crompton and Ajirotutu. I imagine Hansen and Richmond might see some time on the 53 man roster at some point this year.
 
Is Crayton starting at this point?
No. As of today, he's backing up Craig Davis as the slot receiver. 2-3 weeks from now, he may be the starting slot guy, though I think Davis is a very good receiver when healthy and may surprise.Crayton's value to the Bolts is that he adds depth; he's not an upgrade over any of the 3 starting WRs IMO. With Floyd and Davis' injury histories, and Naanee's being untested over 16 games, Crayton keeps the Bolts from having to rely on an UFA in the likely event that one of the top 3 WRs is injured/nicked and misses time.
 
The Chargers are keeping just 2 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 WRs, and 3 CBs. They're skimping at all those positions, releasing QB Crompton, RBs McNeal and Brinkley, WRs Ajirotutu and Williams, and CB Vasher. (Vasher looked done, so that's not much of a surprise.)
That's just shocking to me.
You caught that before my edit. I was brain-dead when I wrote that.
Glad it was a mis-type, though I'm not really familiar enough with the last three to differentiate them from FA's on the waiver wire anyway.I think this final cut day underscores the difference in talent on the team from 3 years ago or so. Non-Charger fans may forget that it wasn't long ago that Darren Sproles was a guy that was on the bubble to make the team. Now he's getting paid ~$10mil as a "franchise player". Entirely different talent level with this roster imo.

 
The Chargers are keeping just 2 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 WRs, and 3 CBs. They're skimping at all those positions, releasing QB Crompton, RBs McNeal and Brinkley, WRs Ajirotutu and Williams, and CB Vasher. (Vasher looked done, so that's not much of a surprise.)
That's just shocking to me.
You caught that before my edit. I was brain-dead when I wrote that.
Glad it was a mis-type, though I'm not really familiar enough with the last three to differentiate them from FA's on the waiver wire anyway.I think this final cut day underscores the difference in talent on the team from 3 years ago or so. Non-Charger fans may forget that it wasn't long ago that Darren Sproles was a guy that was on the bubble to make the team. Now he's getting paid ~$10mil as a "franchise player". Entirely different talent level with this roster imo.
Just as we weren't sure about Sproles's ability to play in the NFL back then, we don't know how many of these newer guys are going to work out. So I can't discern how different the talent level is with this roster right now. I don't think it's as good, but I can't say it's entirely different moreso than it's just unknown/unproven.
 
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