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***Official 2011 Bengals off/pre-season/season/postseason! Thread (1 Viewer)
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Yet they still signed him and guaranteed him 10 milly. Most in the shark pool with no 1st hand knowledge of the knee could have predicted what a bad move it was at the time.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Anyhow, one of two things happened:
1) The doctors gave a pass on Bryant's knee (or at least too rosy a prognosis) when they shouldn't have and the Bengals acted on that misdiagnosis.
2) The doctors warned the Bengals about the knee but Mikey Boy ignored the advice and signed him anyway.
It seems like the first scenario might be closer to the truth - especially when considering he was cleared for that one practice (massive mistake) and some of the other things that have been said about the med staff in the past. That doesn't necessarily clear Mikey Boy as maybe he got a sweetheart deal for the services of these guys and didn't want to spend more money for someone of a higher pedigree.
They did hire new doctors btw, not sure what the background is of them however. Maybe one of the FBGs had a knee done by one of the new guys?
Reedy reported that Reggie Kelly is probably not coming back. This is too bad and I'd like to see him end up as a coach if that's the case (assuming he doesn't catch on elsewhere as a player of course).
According to Hobson it looks like the Bengals are not going to use the franchise tag on J Jo (or Benson, but I didn't think it was realistic that they would use it on Ced). It seems they are gambling that they can get a lower price under the new CBA. I'm pretty nervous about this game of poker. Obviously CB would way up on the needs list if we lost Joseph
-QG
1) The doctors gave a pass on Bryant's knee (or at least too rosy a prognosis) when they shouldn't have and the Bengals acted on that misdiagnosis.
2) The doctors warned the Bengals about the knee but Mikey Boy ignored the advice and signed him anyway.
It seems like the first scenario might be closer to the truth - especially when considering he was cleared for that one practice (massive mistake) and some of the other things that have been said about the med staff in the past. That doesn't necessarily clear Mikey Boy as maybe he got a sweetheart deal for the services of these guys and didn't want to spend more money for someone of a higher pedigree.
They did hire new doctors btw, not sure what the background is of them however. Maybe one of the FBGs had a knee done by one of the new guys?
Reedy reported that Reggie Kelly is probably not coming back. This is too bad and I'd like to see him end up as a coach if that's the case (assuming he doesn't catch on elsewhere as a player of course).
According to Hobson it looks like the Bengals are not going to use the franchise tag on J Jo (or Benson, but I didn't think it was realistic that they would use it on Ced). It seems they are gambling that they can get a lower price under the new CBA. I'm pretty nervous about this game of poker. Obviously CB would way up on the needs list if we lost Joseph
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Had to be nosy to see what Falcons fans were saying about the Brat hire
Again I wish him well, but I'm a bit surprised that the fan base so easily sees him as their next OC and perhaps sooner than later. Then again things are always different when you're outside an organization looking in I suppose. It's also interesting what a small sample will do as they remember the crazy comeback we had against the Falcons last season and thus see Brat as one who adjusts at halftime. Time will tell.
-QG
Again I wish him well, but I'm a bit surprised that the fan base so easily sees him as their next OC and perhaps sooner than later. Then again things are always different when you're outside an organization looking in I suppose. It's also interesting what a small sample will do as they remember the crazy comeback we had against the Falcons last season and thus see Brat as one who adjusts at halftime. Time will tell.
-QG
Drink G2
Footballguy
Maybe, do they work for Wellington Sports in cincy? They looked at my knee a couple years back...Anyhow, one of two things happened:
1) The doctors gave a pass on Bryant's knee (or at least too rosy a prognosis) when they shouldn't have and the Bengals acted on that misdiagnosis.
2) The doctors warned the Bengals about the knee but Mikey Boy ignored the advice and signed him anyway.
It seems like the first scenario might be closer to the truth - especially when considering he was cleared for that one practice (massive mistake) and some of the other things that have been said about the med staff in the past. That doesn't necessarily clear Mikey Boy as maybe he got a sweetheart deal for the services of these guys and didn't want to spend more money for someone of a higher pedigree.
They did hire new doctors btw, not sure what the background is of them however. Maybe one of the FBGs had a knee done by one of the new guys?
Reedy reported that Reggie Kelly is probably not coming back. This is too bad and I'd like to see him end up as a coach if that's the case (assuming he doesn't catch on elsewhere as a player of course).
According to Hobson it looks like the Bengals are not going to use the franchise tag on J Jo (or Benson, but I didn't think it was realistic that they would use it on Ced). It seems they are gambling that they can get a lower price under the new CBA. I'm pretty nervous about this game of poker. Obviously CB would way up on the needs list if we lost Joseph :(
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Link to article with the names of the 2 new doctors-QGMaybe, do they work for Wellington Sports in cincy? They looked at my knee a couple years back...Anyhow, one of two things happened:
1) The doctors gave a pass on Bryant's knee (or at least too rosy a prognosis) when they shouldn't have and the Bengals acted on that misdiagnosis.
2) The doctors warned the Bengals about the knee but Mikey Boy ignored the advice and signed him anyway.
It seems like the first scenario might be closer to the truth - especially when considering he was cleared for that one practice (massive mistake) and some of the other things that have been said about the med staff in the past. That doesn't necessarily clear Mikey Boy as maybe he got a sweetheart deal for the services of these guys and didn't want to spend more money for someone of a higher pedigree.
They did hire new doctors btw, not sure what the background is of them however. Maybe one of the FBGs had a knee done by one of the new guys?
Reedy reported that Reggie Kelly is probably not coming back. This is too bad and I'd like to see him end up as a coach if that's the case (assuming he doesn't catch on elsewhere as a player of course).
According to Hobson it looks like the Bengals are not going to use the franchise tag on J Jo (or Benson, but I didn't think it was realistic that they would use it on Ced). It seems they are gambling that they can get a lower price under the new CBA. I'm pretty nervous about this game of poker. Obviously CB would way up on the needs list if we lost Joseph :(
-QG
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Carson Palmer to the Browns? I agree with Sapp here.
Telling that this on Bengals.com - skip to 3:00 or so for Sapp's comments
-QG
Telling that this on Bengals.com - skip to 3:00 or so for Sapp's comments
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bump as we're getting to draft week. I really hope we hold off on drafting a WR. I think if Gabbert is there at 4, I wouldn't mind us taking him. In a perfect world, somebody likes him or another QB better and we are able to trade back to like the late teens and get Dalton or Ponder. My gut says, though, that Mikey Boy will insist on Green which would be a mistake IMO. It stinks that Dalton and Ponder both improved their stock probably too much to last until the top of round 2. The nightmare of course would be Green at #4 and then getting Mallet at #35 - I wouldn't like that at all.
Any other Bengal Brothers and Sisters have any thoughts?
-QG
Any other Bengal Brothers and Sisters have any thoughts?
-QG
I don't want a QB in the 1st. I think one will fall to the 2nd. The problem though is that everyone knows the Bengals will take a QB in the 2nd and someone might trade up to grab one in the early 2nd. I can't see Mikey don't anything to stop that.I know the Bengals won't do it but I'd rather see them grab a defensive player in the 1st. There isn't anyone who will instantly fix the offense at 1.04 so they might as well build a stronger defense.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I'm with you on the defensive desire with the pick. Peterson would be a great pick - even if it basically would be throwing the white flag on Joseph, in the real world I give us no better than a 40% chance of keep JJ.
There's only 3 QBs I would want to see us take: Gabbert, Dalton, or Ponder. I'd rather we go past the top 7 for a deep cut guy if it comes to it and go stop gap after the work stoppage.
-QG
There's only 3 QBs I would want to see us take: Gabbert, Dalton, or Ponder. I'd rather we go past the top 7 for a deep cut guy if it comes to it and go stop gap after the work stoppage.
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
If he ended up at Safety (and we somehow kept JJ) I'd be down with that. A nice athletic secondary would be a big boost.I know that last year we were all so predictable with Gresham, but I really have a funny feeling that we will get a curve ball this year and go either defense with Peterson or even do something incredible like actually trade down.If they actually let teams trade players in the hours before this draft, things may suddenly get interesting
but I'm sure Mikey Boy will rain on that parade.I must be the only person that thinks that WR is way down on our list of priorities - and I'm coming at it from the perspective that Ocho is gone. I really think the 3 kids are the deal and the way we should go. Get a guy later and let him develop slowly. Why add a high profile WR who's bound to give us a diva at the position yet again. One thing's for sure - we won't be boring.-QG
cheese
Footballguy
This is what scares me as a fan. We know how this team operates. Picking Peterson gives them a reason to let JJO walk. Even if they keep him, what a strange team makeup. You could argue our best 3 playeres would all be CBs or at least DBs.If he ended up at Safety (and we somehow kept JJ) I'd be down with that. A nice athletic secondary would be a big boost.I know that last year we were all so predictable with Gresham, but I really have a funny feeling that we will get a curve ball this year and go either defense with Peterson or even do something incredible like actually trade down.
If they actually let teams trade players in the hours before this draft, things may suddenly get interesting
I must be the only person that thinks that WR is way down on our list of priorities - and I'm coming at it from the perspective that Ocho is gone. I really think the 3 kids are the deal and the way we should go. Get a guy later and let him develop slowly. Why add a high profile WR who's bound to give us a diva at the position yet again.
One thing's for sure - we won't be boring.
-QG
Postradamus
Footballguy
Pretty sure JJos is only a restricted free agent in the offseason, and considering a team would have to sign him a big deal AND give up a first would make the Bengals the likely team to resign him. I think Peterson would be an awesome pick anyway and stick him at FS.
I'd love to see the Bengals trade down, grab a veteran QB via trade or wait to see who's available after cuts. A rookie QB in the 2nd or 3rd isn't a good idea IMO. If they make their defense the #1 priority and can run the ball, this is a playoff team this season. I'd love Fairley or Peterson ideally in the top 10 somewhere and get another pick.
I'd love to see the Bengals trade down, grab a veteran QB via trade or wait to see who's available after cuts. A rookie QB in the 2nd or 3rd isn't a good idea IMO. If they make their defense the #1 priority and can run the ball, this is a playoff team this season. I'd love Fairley or Peterson ideally in the top 10 somewhere and get another pick.
Postradamus
Footballguy
Armand Binns is in this thing right? Dude is a gamer, I'd love to grab him in the 4th-5th if possible. AJ Green isn't going to help us immediately without a QB in place. They need to focus on making one thing their strength (defense or Oline IMO) in the first round, then see who's there.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
They really need to address OL, DT and safety today.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I think it's now or never with Cannon. If they don't take him here, then they simple didn't like what they saw on all that TCU tape they were watching. My gut feeling is here's the guy at 4.
Is there a small-college RB out there we might try to pull a Bernard Scott with in round 6?
-QG
Is there a small-college RB out there we might try to pull a Bernard Scott with in round 6?
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Figured I'd bump this ahead of what I'm sure will be a lighting-fast response to free agency by our heroes :eyeroll:
Any even mile optimism I've had has been crushed with the way the lockout has come down and the recidivism that has occurred (woulda been nice if Father Flanagan Brown had been there perhaps to help keep some of these guys from screwing up yet again. Anyhow.
The Gradkowski era is likely upon us.
Actually anyone with experience not named Palmer playing a year or so in front of Dalton is a good thing IMO. Assuming we get this guy we'll have the bonus of not criminally giving away a game to him for like the 100th time. I'm a little contrary in that absent a decent price I'd just as soon see Palmer pout and stay home and file the papers. Let me wait a year and get traded. If we can get like a 2nd round pick for him, I say go to town, but Mikey doesn't roll like that.
At RB we are pretty much screwed now. Of course it's possible that the NFL won't be able to suspend him (or other miscreants) without a fight. Still, absent him we're likely looking at ugly options here. Feeling bad about the running game.
At WR my gut tells me we won't trade/cut Ocho which is a massive mistake at this point. The good example of his excellent work habits would be great to have. The potential that he'll infect the young wideouts with a case of me-itis is kinda scary. I'm also a Caldwell proponent and this would be about the final nail for a guy who has deserved a better opportunity.
Gotta hope they wake up and give Livings the guard spot. Somehow I think they'll screw it up. The success of the O-Line really rides on Andre Smith at this point and that pretty much sums it up.
The Pacman situation is a disaster. He's still hurt it seems and there's that little old arrest thing. Since I think it's like 1000% that we'll screw up and lose JoJo, we're pretty much screwed in an area that should've been a strength.
At least we have Huber!
Anyhow, feel free to free verse any thoughts you have about the guys in Stripes and what we might do in this FA period. Haven't been this pessimistic since the Shula days though. I just know we're gonna get caught flat-footed next week.
Who Dey.
-QG
Any even mile optimism I've had has been crushed with the way the lockout has come down and the recidivism that has occurred (woulda been nice if Father Flanagan Brown had been there perhaps to help keep some of these guys from screwing up yet again. Anyhow.
The Gradkowski era is likely upon us.
Actually anyone with experience not named Palmer playing a year or so in front of Dalton is a good thing IMO. Assuming we get this guy we'll have the bonus of not criminally giving away a game to him for like the 100th time. I'm a little contrary in that absent a decent price I'd just as soon see Palmer pout and stay home and file the papers. Let me wait a year and get traded. If we can get like a 2nd round pick for him, I say go to town, but Mikey doesn't roll like that.At RB we are pretty much screwed now. Of course it's possible that the NFL won't be able to suspend him (or other miscreants) without a fight. Still, absent him we're likely looking at ugly options here. Feeling bad about the running game.
At WR my gut tells me we won't trade/cut Ocho which is a massive mistake at this point. The good example of his excellent work habits would be great to have. The potential that he'll infect the young wideouts with a case of me-itis is kinda scary. I'm also a Caldwell proponent and this would be about the final nail for a guy who has deserved a better opportunity.
Gotta hope they wake up and give Livings the guard spot. Somehow I think they'll screw it up. The success of the O-Line really rides on Andre Smith at this point and that pretty much sums it up.
The Pacman situation is a disaster. He's still hurt it seems and there's that little old arrest thing. Since I think it's like 1000% that we'll screw up and lose JoJo, we're pretty much screwed in an area that should've been a strength.
At least we have Huber!
Anyhow, feel free to free verse any thoughts you have about the guys in Stripes and what we might do in this FA period. Haven't been this pessimistic since the Shula days though. I just know we're gonna get caught flat-footed next week.
Who Dey.
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Where are all my Bengal Brothers (and Sisters) at?
At least Mikey Boy has owned up to the fact Carson will never wear the #9 for us again. Still pretty angry about how Carson went about it (mainly because there was no chance we could even trade him when he did his whole power play - it was stupid). Be interesting what kind of offers Mikey will turn down.
Wouldn't surprise me if a year from now they go ahead an trade his rights, but who knows. A lot depends on if Carson decides to pull a Favre and show up and try to force the issue.
-QG
At least Mikey Boy has owned up to the fact Carson will never wear the #9 for us again. Still pretty angry about how Carson went about it (mainly because there was no chance we could even trade him when he did his whole power play - it was stupid). Be interesting what kind of offers Mikey will turn down.
Wouldn't surprise me if a year from now they go ahead an trade his rights, but who knows. A lot depends on if Carson decides to pull a Favre and show up and try to force the issue.
-QG
cheese
Footballguy
Hobson says the initial targets are DWill, JJo, Gallery, Benson as well as some minor names of our own like Fanene and Brandon Johnson. Gradkowski and Sorgi according to other reports. Sounds like we may be in a bidding war with Detroit for JJo.
I guess this means the end for Dhani that he isn't on this list. Also, if Fanene is coming back, Odom has to be cut right?
Things finally starting to take shape a LITTLE bit.
I guess this means the end for Dhani that he isn't on this list. Also, if Fanene is coming back, Odom has to be cut right?
Things finally starting to take shape a LITTLE bit.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
DWill - I honestly think this is Mets-style lip-service pretend interest. That is they called, found out DWill's price tag and said "Moving On"J Jo - I hope to hell they really are doing everything to sign him. They have to spend the money and the guy is totally worth it. They need to lock him up sooner than later, preferably while Asomugha is still unsigned.Gallery - We need a guard since they totally and stupidly botched things up with Mathis. Gallery is capable but this smells like an Antonio Bryant deal waiting to happen - overpay him and he gets hurt. Scares me.Benson - we have to be the entire market for him at this point. Obviously he fits but the legal stuff is more than a little trivial at this point. If we could get a guy who can be the every down guy I'd probably prefer him to Benson. Brandon Jackson is not that answer. If Benson's legal stuff is cleared up he's probably the best alternative we can realistically get. Wouldn't mind see us look at Snelling. Keeping Fanane and Brandon Johnson would be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing a replacement for Dhani if that's what they choose to do. Perhaps Muckleroy is ready?Sorgi doesn't excite me one bit. Gradkowski at least knows Gruden's system inside and out. I'd be okay with him as a stopgap.Really would rather see Leonard resigned than Brandon Jackson.-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Hope he's gone one way or the other. Can't believe they want him in camp. *sigh*-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Mikey Boy killin' it in free agency with the signing of Bruce Gradkowski!
All kidding aside, he's at least a guy with starting experience who is well versed in the Bengals new offense. He should be a good mentor to Dalton. He's also the Bengal QB to draft in fantasy this year if you are in a league where every starting QB gets drated.
-QG
All kidding aside, he's at least a guy with starting experience who is well versed in the Bengals new offense. He should be a good mentor to Dalton. He's also the Bengal QB to draft in fantasy this year if you are in a league where every starting QB gets drated.
-QG
cheese
Footballguy
AJ Green is one of the first rookies to get on board in the entire NFL. Good for the Bengals. There is no reason to haggle over contracts with the rookie wage scale, and the guaranteed money isn't really relevant either. At these prices, there is basically no scenerio where they would want to cut Green anyway no matter how he plays.
I can only assume Dalton will be right behind him now. Between that and possible JJO and Oline news today, it could be getting more exciting soon.
:fingerscrossed:
I can only assume Dalton will be right behind him now. Between that and possible JJO and Oline news today, it could be getting more exciting soon.
:fingerscrossed:
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I like the Ocho trade. Mainly because I think our receiver corps will be fine without him, there will be no distraction, and hopefully it's another $3.5m that they can give to JoJo.
Think the locker room atmosphere is going to improve this year at least even if it takes a couple years for it to show up on the field.
-QG
Think the locker room atmosphere is going to improve this year at least even if it takes a couple years for it to show up on the field.
-QG
netnalp
Footballguy
Won't the Carson Palmer situation make up for Ocho in the distraction department?Seems the most successful franchises have the attitude 'if you don't want to be here, then we don't want you.' I can't recall these kinds of standoffs benefiting the team. Let him go or trade him, and move on to building a franchise that's at the top of player's wish list to play for.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Carson's not gonna be in the locker room, so actually I don't think he'll be a distraction.-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bengals looking at some "big" names to compensate for the loss of Joseph:
Per bengals.com:
They are probably going to delve back into free agency for guys like a Carlos Rogers or Kelly Jennings. The top three options on the club are a pair of young guys _ Morgan Trent and Brandon Ghee - as well as a journeyman in Jonathan Wade.
-QG
Per bengals.com:
They are probably going to delve back into free agency for guys like a Carlos Rogers or Kelly Jennings. The top three options on the club are a pair of young guys _ Morgan Trent and Brandon Ghee - as well as a journeyman in Jonathan Wade.
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
More like a lock for Nate Clements at too many $ or something similar.-QG
notdarkyet
Footballguy
What a train wreck. The Bengals are going to have trouble getting to the cap minimum.One way ticket back to the dark ages, no return flights scheduled.
haha, we have a better chance of Mikey inventing a cloning machine and bringing us a mid 90's Deion Sanders.'cvnpoka said:
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notdarkyet
Footballguy
Mike Brown, is that you?
Having a top 5 corner would be pretty awful. The only way you are better off without that investment is if you allocate that money to multiple areas of need with realistic meaningful contributors. There isn't a huge market for GOOD outsiders to come to this franchise, so protecting your own is critical. They lost out on J-Jo and there are barely any even startable replacements out there.
There was one thing and one thing only that could have prohibited this being a disaster offseason, and they allowed that opportunity to leave.
I like lists, so here is one:
QB - Small school rookie (success this season very unlikely) and a small school QB who is 6 and 14 as a starter (two of those wins against.... the Bengals)
RB - B. Scott. I actually like B. Scott, but they need another starter here. It will likely be Benson, because he will come cheap after beating the tar out of that dude.
WR - Lots of potential here, though they need someone to throw the ball to them. 1 rookie, 1 guy with huge hands and limited time on the field, also a small school guy, one nice slot guy.
TE - I like Gresham, hopefully he becomes what they envisioned.
OL - Train. Wreck.
DL - Some young talent here. Need Michael Johnson to be fulltime DE where he belongs. Dunlap showed signs of being good too. DT's arent too bad, but not game changing.
LB - Underperforming across the board
CB - Leon Hall. Pacman (with lingering neck injury. Ooooof.
S - Disaster
So we only have questions at QB, RB, OL, LB, CB, S.
Su-per-bowl!!!!
Having a top 5 corner would be pretty awful. The only way you are better off without that investment is if you allocate that money to multiple areas of need with realistic meaningful contributors. There isn't a huge market for GOOD outsiders to come to this franchise, so protecting your own is critical. They lost out on J-Jo and there are barely any even startable replacements out there.
There was one thing and one thing only that could have prohibited this being a disaster offseason, and they allowed that opportunity to leave.
I like lists, so here is one:
QB - Small school rookie (success this season very unlikely) and a small school QB who is 6 and 14 as a starter (two of those wins against.... the Bengals)
RB - B. Scott. I actually like B. Scott, but they need another starter here. It will likely be Benson, because he will come cheap after beating the tar out of that dude.
WR - Lots of potential here, though they need someone to throw the ball to them. 1 rookie, 1 guy with huge hands and limited time on the field, also a small school guy, one nice slot guy.
TE - I like Gresham, hopefully he becomes what they envisioned.
OL - Train. Wreck.
DL - Some young talent here. Need Michael Johnson to be fulltime DE where he belongs. Dunlap showed signs of being good too. DT's arent too bad, but not game changing.
LB - Underperforming across the board
CB - Leon Hall. Pacman (with lingering neck injury. Ooooof.
S - Disaster
So we only have questions at QB, RB, OL, LB, CB, S.
Su-per-bowl!!!!
cheese
Footballguy
Like the Howard signing, but we still need to spend on the defense. There are other options out there at CB, but we need to get one of them. Like everyone else, I hope they at least tried to offer big money to JJo. He may be getting slightly overrated in the discussion this week, but if they're going to spend big money on a CB (and I still think its likely), you might as well give it to a guy who's done well here and never been a problem. I would've probably gone as high as 5/55 if I'm Cincy.
I would still be fighting for a DE and a safety as well. If its an option, I wouldn't mind bringing Odom back at a smaller salary. I was never his biggest fan, but I doubt there is much of a market for him and he could still help us. Safety is a glaring need IMO.
Addai/RBrown is still an option or at least bring back Ced.
I'll make my own list.
QB-Dalton/Grad/others... Open battle in preseason makes 4 games of semi-exciting tv. No changes coming
RB- Gonna get someone. Probably overpay, but I can see us getting a legit starter from FA.
WR- Basically set. Possible depth signings.
TE- Starter is set. Possible depth signings.
OL- Opinions vary here. We could use help on the interior for sure. Don't know enough about the FA options, but we need someone.
DL- Need a DE one way or another. If they don't spend in other areas, they could spend big here (Edwards?). If not, someone cheap for the rotation
LB- Howard helps. BJohnson coming back? Dhani must be gone, so Rey only has to beat out Muck for MLB
CB- We have a hole now. I do think the scheme can hide a shaky corner, but the lack of a pass rush and no good safeties will make that hard.
S- Awful. Need someone now. Interested in MHuff, but I'll take anyone. I'd like to spend on one legit starter here and then bring back Ndukwe for depth. Crocker looked way better in 2010.
I would still be fighting for a DE and a safety as well. If its an option, I wouldn't mind bringing Odom back at a smaller salary. I was never his biggest fan, but I doubt there is much of a market for him and he could still help us. Safety is a glaring need IMO.
Addai/RBrown is still an option or at least bring back Ced.
I'll make my own list.
QB-Dalton/Grad/others... Open battle in preseason makes 4 games of semi-exciting tv. No changes coming
RB- Gonna get someone. Probably overpay, but I can see us getting a legit starter from FA.
WR- Basically set. Possible depth signings.
TE- Starter is set. Possible depth signings.
OL- Opinions vary here. We could use help on the interior for sure. Don't know enough about the FA options, but we need someone.
DL- Need a DE one way or another. If they don't spend in other areas, they could spend big here (Edwards?). If not, someone cheap for the rotation
LB- Howard helps. BJohnson coming back? Dhani must be gone, so Rey only has to beat out Muck for MLB
CB- We have a hole now. I do think the scheme can hide a shaky corner, but the lack of a pass rush and no good safeties will make that hard.
S- Awful. Need someone now. Interested in MHuff, but I'll take anyone. I'd like to spend on one legit starter here and then bring back Ndukwe for depth. Crocker looked way better in 2010.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I have to say as a long-time Bengals fan (that grew up elsewhere), the negative of this fan base is not to be underestimated! It was the one thing that struck me when I went to the playoff game in '09. I do agree that it is a fair point to consider whether it would be worth it to have 1/6 of the salary cap tied up in just 2 CBS ($10m + $10m for Hall presumably). I've been think about doing a generic pole on this subject in fact
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Funny thing is that I think if we win the LHUCKStakes, er Luckstakes there's an excellent chance that we deal away that pick. Given the new CBA and the fact that it makes the contracts much more reasonable, a huge haul could be expected to be had.-QGHi Andy Dalton... meet Andrew Luck.
Antwan Odom released
Sirius Reporting the release of Odom, which is not at all surprising given Michael Johnson and and the kid from Florida-Dunlap.....
What is surprising, is they are now reportedly 49 million under the cap.
Who are they gonna spend 90% of their cap on? I have never seen a team mismanage rosters and and money
more than the Bengals
Sirius Reporting the release of Odom, which is not at all surprising given Michael Johnson and and the kid from Florida-Dunlap.....
What is surprising, is they are now reportedly 49 million under the cap.
Who are they gonna spend 90% of their cap on? I have never seen a team mismanage rosters and and money
more than the Bengals
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bet a good chunk of that goes to extending guys they already have.For example Leon Hall makes just a hair over $3 million this year.Given the contract Joseph got and the fact they preferred Hall it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get a deal in that $9m-$10m range. That's $7m right there.They'll hold back $ for a Carson power play just in case and then past week 10 they'll dump that $ into extending others.Obviously it won't be just that, but I'm saying that I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of that $49m is already earmarked.-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bengals signed Nate Clements, formerly of the 49ers today (who cut him in a salary cap move - dude had a humongous congract).
He'll be 32 in December, but he's a solid addition. Not at J Jo's level, but pairing him with Hall gives us a good CB combo and he's guy who fits the system.
Be interested to see what the value of the contract is.
-QG
He'll be 32 in December, but he's a solid addition. Not at J Jo's level, but pairing him with Hall gives us a good CB combo and he's guy who fits the system.
Be interested to see what the value of the contract is.
-QG
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