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***Official 2011 Bengals off/pre-season/season/postseason! Thread (1 Viewer)
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QuizGuy66
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I agree, that's a very reasonable deal. Hopefully we can put the leftover money into an OLB or a LG. That it's only a 2 year deal protects them if he has declined and allows them time to draft a new CB in next year's draft.-QG
cheese
Footballguy
Good to see they are staying active even if they aren't landing the top tier guys. The Clements deal could be a bargain.
If they can finalize Whitner, that will fill a huge hole. Sounds like they are still talking to linebackers as well. I could see them bringing back Brandon Johnson if they can't land anyone better. We know they're at least looking at OG because of the Lutui situation. Its been ugly, but they may end up doing OK in this scramble. If nothing else, they're at least TRYING for a legit plan at each position, which I was starting to doubt.
If they can finalize Whitner, that will fill a huge hole. Sounds like they are still talking to linebackers as well. I could see them bringing back Brandon Johnson if they can't land anyone better. We know they're at least looking at OG because of the Lutui situation. Its been ugly, but they may end up doing OK in this scramble. If nothing else, they're at least TRYING for a legit plan at each position, which I was starting to doubt.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
LOL - almost forgot this one - have to take a 
here:
I called Chad to the Pats 2 years ago
True it was a trade, but pretty much knew he'd end up with Belichick.
-QG
here:I called Chad to the Pats 2 years ago
True it was a trade, but pretty much knew he'd end up with Belichick.
-QG
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QuizGuy66
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Bengals release first preseason depth chart (which Marvin says isn't worth the paper it's printed on and it's only 'cause he has to do it).
Anyway, highlights are that Dalton is #1 on depth chart and Andre Smith is #1 on the RT depth chart.
Um, oh and apparently Quan Cosby is now a #1 WR
They updated the site. Simpson is #1 opposite Green.
Anyway here you go:
Linky
-QG
Anyway, highlights are that Dalton is #1 on depth chart and Andre Smith is #1 on the RT depth chart.
Um, oh and apparently Quan Cosby is now a #1 WR
They updated the site. Simpson is #1 opposite Green.Anyway here you go:
Linky
-QG
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QuizGuy66
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3rd-round pick LB Dontay Moch broke his foot in the preseason game at Detroit and will miss at least 8 weeks they are saying.
Please, NFL, I'm begging you, can you stop giving us preseason games at Detroit? We always get our draft picks injured before they even have a chance :(
(see Kenny Irons and Ki-Jana Carter)
-QG
Please, NFL, I'm begging you, can you stop giving us preseason games at Detroit? We always get our draft picks injured before they even have a chance :(
(see Kenny Irons and Ki-Jana Carter)
-QG
QuizGuy66
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Naturally, the Bengals are attending Pryor's workout...
Yeah, coulda bet money on this one - via cincy jungle
-QG
Yeah, coulda bet money on this one - via cincy jungle
-QG
QuizGuy66
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Andre's deal will now end after the 2012 season. The crazy this is that he's slimmed way down to 335 and is having a good camp. There were only a couple plays in the Detroit game where he looked bad and he was in good enough condition that he played the entire half without tapping out for a single play. I was intrigued by how they were using him - on a lot of the running plays he was moving around a lot (i.e. moving forward into the 2nd level to block guys for example). Now that the Bengals have declined to pick up his option, he's going to totally go off and be like a Pro Bowl caliber player :(
Link to cincyjungle article
-QG
Link to cincyjungle article
-QG
QuizGuy66
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According to Schefter's twitter, Linky the Bengals traded an undisclosed draft pick the the 49ers for Taylor Mays. True the 49ers had issues with him, but if the Bengals gave up something like one of the picks they got in the Ocho deal I have to say I like this. The kid is seen as a tweener, it is true, but he seemed like a good fit ahead of the draft last year for the Who Deys in terms of Zimmer's style and he's been known to work magic before.
-QG
-QG
QuizGuy66
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The Bengals cut RunPee! I guess the big question might be whether they choose to roster just 2 QB as LeFevour didn't play in the 3rd preseason game at all. Hobson mentioned the possibility of the Bengals keeping an extra o-lineman instead. I'll throw my own speculation in that perhaps the Bengals have their eye on a likely cut from another team as a 3rd QB. Though who that would be I have no idea.
I feel a bit bad for Jordan Palmer getting caught in the middle of things but at the same time I tend to think his brother was the main reason he ever got on the roster in the first place. It'll be interesting to see if he's given anything resembling a chance elsewhere or perhaps even ends up in the UFL.
-QG
I feel a bit bad for Jordan Palmer getting caught in the middle of things but at the same time I tend to think his brother was the main reason he ever got on the roster in the first place. It'll be interesting to see if he's given anything resembling a chance elsewhere or perhaps even ends up in the UFL.
-QG
QuizGuy66
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Bumped for me to look at later and also on the news that Mike Brown has actually done something right!
What looked like the biggest clusterfudge of an off-season at the beginning is now turning to gold.
Clements coming in for 1/2 the price of Joseph has been worth it - he's made some big plays. (He's not at the level of JoJo but overall having him and Hall for $15m is probably more sound in terms of budget that going $20m with Hall and Joseph).
Can't say enough good things about Dalton. to myself as he's the guy I wanted them to get all along.
Still think that we're looking at 7 or 8 wins this year (I'll stay cautiously pessimistic) but come 2013 I think they'll be bustin' up the league big time
-QG
What looked like the biggest clusterfudge of an off-season at the beginning is now turning to gold.
Clements coming in for 1/2 the price of Joseph has been worth it - he's made some big plays. (He's not at the level of JoJo but overall having him and Hall for $15m is probably more sound in terms of budget that going $20m with Hall and Joseph).
Can't say enough good things about Dalton.
to myself as he's the guy I wanted them to get all along.Still think that we're looking at 7 or 8 wins this year (I'll stay cautiously pessimistic) but come 2013 I think they'll be bustin' up the league big time
-QG
QuizGuy66
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Fun with my first reaction to Palmer trade demand...
-QGDoes retirement threaten the cap going forward (assuming a new CBA with a cap commences?)We've got the room to absorb and hit and actually can get some extensions now with the albatross contract gone
Is there really a team out there that is willing to pay him THAT contract?!? Affirmative
Many things can be said about Mike Brown, but one thing that cannot be said is that he hasn't been anything but good to Carson Palmer. Guess we can change all our mock drafts to Cam Newton now...Fortunately that didn't happen. And I stand by that - even with as great as Newton has been for Carolina he wouldn't have worked for us. We'd have ruined him.
I actually hope they make him retire. I mean what kind of pick can we expect to get for him at this point? A 7th-rounder? Enjoy retirement I say. Glad to see we got slightly more than a 7th-rounder
On a side note, guess this is all the confirmation we need that Brat is back, eh? I've never been happier to be so wrong
On a 2nd side note, is it even possible to trade players right now given the situation with the CBA? Pretty sure teams can't sign anybody right now (excepting the 4 still playing). This was true, basically, except for that tiny window where the lockout was briefly lifted. This did not prevent a million posts and articles about the Bengals needing to trade Carson right away.
-QG
cheese
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Such a huge week and we could be getting Rey, Pacman, and Gresham all back for this one.
With a 6-2 record, we do have some margin for error, but I'm thinking this week is our best chance out of the 4 games with Pitts/Balt. We're as healthy as we've been all year and the confidence has to be higher than ever. I think we probably match up better with Pitts than Baltimore too, just based on our defensive line. We should be able to exploit their offensive line and get to Ben a LOT. Pacman being back for this one would be huge. Another nickle-back TD last week with him out. Probably Clements/Safety on Wallace, leaving Hall and Pacman to deal with Brown and Ward.
On offense, the balance has been awesome so far, but the defensive competition goes up the next 5 weeks big time. Can the run game remain productive against the Steelers? Can we keep staying on schedule for first downs? I'm not sure that Pitts or Baltimore has anyone that can cover AJ 1 on 1, but we will need to give Dalton time if we're going to throw down the field like we have been.
I feel like this is a 50/50 game this week that will determine a lot.
With a 6-2 record, we do have some margin for error, but I'm thinking this week is our best chance out of the 4 games with Pitts/Balt. We're as healthy as we've been all year and the confidence has to be higher than ever. I think we probably match up better with Pitts than Baltimore too, just based on our defensive line. We should be able to exploit their offensive line and get to Ben a LOT. Pacman being back for this one would be huge. Another nickle-back TD last week with him out. Probably Clements/Safety on Wallace, leaving Hall and Pacman to deal with Brown and Ward.
On offense, the balance has been awesome so far, but the defensive competition goes up the next 5 weeks big time. Can the run game remain productive against the Steelers? Can we keep staying on schedule for first downs? I'm not sure that Pitts or Baltimore has anyone that can cover AJ 1 on 1, but we will need to give Dalton time if we're going to throw down the field like we have been.
I feel like this is a 50/50 game this week that will determine a lot.
QuizGuy66
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Absolutely, cheese. I think this week is gonna tell us where we're at. Very excited to see how it turns out and really stoked about this team either way. I think the play of the respective defensive lines is going to tell the tale. I'm hoping that Roethlisberger isn't able to pull his usual Houdini stuff when we are able to get pressure on him.
Clements has been an awesome addition. It was tough to lose JoJo but $20m tied up in the top two CB would've been a lot tougher to deal with. I hope we can hang onto Nate after this year.
And thanks for bumping this thread
Who Dey!
-QG
Clements has been an awesome addition. It was tough to lose JoJo but $20m tied up in the top two CB would've been a lot tougher to deal with. I hope we can hang onto Nate after this year.
And thanks for bumping this thread
Who Dey!
-QG
http://www.bengals.com/stadium/food-beverage.html
Sorry, while looking at seats for this weekends game, I just had to post how the Bengals were able to update the beverages available on their website.
Any chance we can get that typed up?
Sorry, while looking at seats for this weekends game, I just had to post how the Bengals were able to update the beverages available on their website.
Any chance we can get that typed up?
QuizGuy66
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QuizGuy66
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Looked at it a little more and TECHNICALLY the Bengals can't get eliminated but if SD and Oakland both win and the Bengals lose we would need them to tie each other in week 17 to have a chance 
Obviously the simple scenario is for the Bengals to win 2 and have the Jets lose 1.
We still do have a chance to make it if both teams win out but we'd need a lot of help to get the strength-of-victory tiebreaker on our side. I mean a lot of help.
Now, if San Diego and Oakland both lose next week, a Bengals loss isn't as damaging if the Jets win. Basically we'd be in a scenario where we need a win and a Jets loss in the finale. (We'd get through on better conference record. Even if Tennessee made it a 3-way tie, the Jets would get knocked out in the conference record tiebreaker and then we win over Tennessee based on head to head).
Still nice that it can be talked about at all
-QG
Obviously the simple scenario is for the Bengals to win 2 and have the Jets lose 1.
We still do have a chance to make it if both teams win out but we'd need a lot of help to get the strength-of-victory tiebreaker on our side. I mean a lot of help.
Now, if San Diego and Oakland both lose next week, a Bengals loss isn't as damaging if the Jets win. Basically we'd be in a scenario where we need a win and a Jets loss in the finale. (We'd get through on better conference record. Even if Tennessee made it a 3-way tie, the Jets would get knocked out in the conference record tiebreaker and then we win over Tennessee based on head to head).
Still nice that it can be talked about at all
-QG
notdarkyet
Footballguy
I would love to see this team just finish off an opponent.
I hate Benson.
If this defense plays the way they did the first 3 qtrs, they will be tough to beat. The pressure they were getting on the QB was impressive.
It's all simple now. Win and you keep playing. Week 17 is a playoff game. So nice to have relevant football at the end of the season.
I hate Benson.
If this defense plays the way they did the first 3 qtrs, they will be tough to beat. The pressure they were getting on the QB was impressive.
It's all simple now. Win and you keep playing. Week 17 is a playoff game. So nice to have relevant football at the end of the season.
ya this
Yenrub
Footballguy
What happened with Benson yesterday? The stats say he lost 2 fumbles.Does he typically fumble a lot?
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Mike Brown has burned this fanbase enough that they figure this is a mirage once again. Well if the people that call into local sports talk shows are any indication. This game will sell out though.
cheese
Footballguy
The worst managed team in sports has crushed the season ticket base. It's really hard to sell out a whole stadium on single game sales. Even harder on holidays where most people have annual plans. The players and coaches deserve a sellout though.
QuizGuy66
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This.Cincy is a town that passed a referendum funding the stadium when the team was completely awful (to save the team and also because there was the promise that better revenue would bring more 
spent on the team). This is a promise that people feel was broken. In spite of this, the teams sold out for a number of years starting in the Marvin era - really if you look at the team's record in most of those years the support has been quite remarkable. As a side note, you'll notice that very few stadiums get to a referendum these days because even in the so-called best football markets they often have trouble passing. Throw on top of that a very troubled local economy and it's very expensive for fans to take in a game - people just don't have the spare benjamins to go. People also resent the sweetheart deal the Bengals have gotten and their extreme reluctance to east terms when it is crushing the county budget. (Side note - the Brown family is doing well enough to buy out the other 30% of the team for cash - they have $100m lying around to do this). Add to that the Charlie (Mikey) Brown effect where it looks like things are turning the corner and at the last minute the football seems to get pulled away. People don't want to be fooled again and even with better times appearing on the horizon the memory of the worst press conference ever (the one announcing Marvin's return where basically Mikey pretty much said nothing would change) and it's just been hard.Does someone living in Cincy know what the ratings have been for the road games for the Bengals have been? I bet they are the strongest in years. It's a unique situation unlike other teams that have attendance issues.-QG
QuizGuy66
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Congrats to the long-suffering Bengals fans on the board.
Both of you.
I actually give you a GREAT shot of heading to the second round. Anything can happen then.
Both of you.
I actually give you a GREAT shot of heading to the second round. Anything can happen then.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Where are all the "experts" that said the Bengals would be 0-16?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Still on TV and radio where they always are
"Andrew Luck, welcome to Cincinnati" 
-QG
Reaper
Footballguy
Congrats QG......Seems like you're in the Jets role this year so, Cincy will hopefully go out, beat some teams and take it to the Championship Game - I had a BLAST the past 2 years holding playoff parties and being the underdog fan.
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Thanks'Reaper said:Congrats QG......Seems like you're in the Jets role this year so, Cincy will hopefully go out, beat some teams and take it to the Championship Game - I had a BLAST the past 2 years holding playoff parties and being the underdog fan.'QuizGuy66 said:
Hope it goes more '10 Packers or '07 Giants - but that'd be greedy 
-QG
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Call me a sucker, but I actually think the Bengals should win this game. Being picked by the pundits to finish dead last to start the season, there should be virtually no pressure on the Bengals. The season is already a huge success from my viewpoint, a very young team gaining valuable "important game" experience is awesome, a win is pure upside. Combine this with getting the extra first rounder this year, and another 2nd next year and things are looking bright in Bengaldom. I think this is a much more stable locker room than what we saw the last time this team was looking good and is more likely to be built for long term success. 
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