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From what I learned last year:- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all. - RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
I agree with a lot of this. Especially the part about loving the contest and taking it a little (or a lot) too far. Good luck!
 
The two bolded lines seem a bit contradictory to me. I think 3 QB's is the way to go.
Have to disagree with this. The last several years the winning rosters have had 2 QBs. Typically it's a stud plus a mid-tier upside. If you're smart, you'll drop the 3rd QB and add more kickers. ;)
 
My last and final revision (I'm away from internet access until after the deadline)

2 QBs - Stud and potential, $41

5 RBs - Mid top tier guy, 2 tier 2/3s, and 2 potential; $68

7 WRs - Stud, three moderate stars, 3 potential; $86

3 TEs - 3 low TE1 or high TE2s; $33

4 PKs - the $3 variety; $12

3 TDs - the $4 or $3 variety; $10

24 Players $250

My worst week has 6 on a bye, 3 from 2 different teams. But most of those are backups.

 
The two bolded lines seem a bit contradictory to me. I think 3 QB's is the way to go.
It's the Finley owners from last year who want more TE's. I'm sure most of those who had Stafford as their #2 QB last year probably think 3 QB's is the way to go.
 
I've got a buck to spend and just don't see anywhere I'd like to upgrade.

Looks like 30 players and $249 for me.

 
I've got a buck to spend and just don't see anywhere I'd like to upgrade.Looks like 30 players and $249 for me.
I almost did this yesterday. For some reason I just couldn't do it though. Had flashbacks of the "junk" rosters discussions. Eventually I found a satisfying way to spend the extra $1.
 
Some of you said you were putting your team in DD. What is DD? What I think it is will not hold a list of football players... :)

I planned my team, 18 players and want to make changes. The more I think of it, I realized I have no idea how I look on bye weeks, etc...

 
Some of you said you were putting your team in DD. What is DD? What I think it is will not hold a list of football players... :)I planned my team, 18 players and want to make changes. The more I think of it, I realized I have no idea how I look on bye weeks, etc...
Draft Dominator program available here at FBG with the membership
 
This is off topic but how do you copy & paste these columns into Excel?

I keep getting the checkboxes pasted next to the names of the players and it takes up the first 4 digits of the names?

A) how do I get rid of those boxes? (tried formatting cells but no luck)

B) Is there a way to copy & paste without copying the checkboxes?

TIA

Q :popcorn:

 
I have several friends who are casual football fans who aren't interested in Fantasy Football because of the time commitment. I think a league like this is perfect since they only have to pick their team once. Is there anywhere on the net that you can run your own contest of this type? I'd be willing to pay...

 
I have several friends who are casual football fans who aren't interested in Fantasy Football because of the time commitment. I think a league like this is perfect since they only have to pick their team once. Is there anywhere on the net that you can run your own contest of this type? I'd be willing to pay...
Create this exact contest on an MFL league. Have a $20 entry fee and you will probably get more than 50 entries if you ask in this thread.
 
Here is my 2011 TeamQB 2 ($32)= 12.8%RB 8 ($84)= 33.6%WR 9 ($96)= 38.4%TE 5 ($26)= 10.4%PK 3 ($6) = 2.4%TD 3 ($6) = 2.4%30 Man Roster = $250From what I learned last year:- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all. - RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
Here's my team summary:QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]Total - 30 players, $250 salaryMy team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.Good luck to all.
 
Here is my 2011 Team

QB 2 ($32)= 12.8%

RB 8 ($84)= 33.6%

WR 9 ($96)= 38.4%

TE 5 ($26)= 10.4%

PK 3 ($6) = 2.4%

TD 3 ($6) = 2.4%

30 Man Roster = $250

From what I learned last year:

- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)

- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch

- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all.

- RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.

- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.

- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.

- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.

That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
Here's my team summary:QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]

RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]

WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]

TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]

K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]

D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]

Total - 30 players, $250 salary

My team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.

IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.

Good luck to all.
eaglezzz: "I'll take FBG contest startegy for $100 Alex"Alex: "Bal @Pit @Ari @Bal"

eaglezzz: "What is MCCoy's schedule when the money is on the line?"

Are you playing to cash or playing just to last? If McCoy outscores your two primary QBs, you didn't chose the right primary QBs. McCoy's 15-20 points aren't going to help you when you opponents down the stretch have Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, Ben, Romo hanging monster numbers. Do yourself a favor and turn your 15-20 TD QB and 25 TD QB into a 30-40 TD QB for the same cost.

I ran an analysis based on adding Flaco's contributions to Brees last year and as I recall it was less than 30 points including the bye week. If you really believe in the 3 QB strategy, get three QBs the you expect to produce at a similiar level for the year and then reap the bb aspects.

A crummy QB performance is still going to net you 10-15 points. A crummy WR or RB performance nets you 3 points.

 
This is off topic but how do you copy & paste these columns into Excel?I keep getting the checkboxes pasted next to the names of the players and it takes up the first 4 digits of the names?A) how do I get rid of those boxes? (tried formatting cells but no luck)B) Is there a way to copy & paste without copying the checkboxes?TIAQ :popcorn:
Paste Special. It should then ask HTML or Text. Text is the answer.
 
Interesting to read several folks that are "locked in". For whatever reasons, I have only barely looked at this contest thus far this season. I plan to spend quite a bit of time on Sunday and Monday entering and revising my team line-up. Since the local weather forecast is calling for extended rain from the tropical storm in the gulf, this should be a nice distraction from the dismal weekend weather.

 
Interesting to read several folks that are "locked in". For whatever reasons, I have only barely looked at this contest thus far this season. I plan to spend quite a bit of time on Sunday and Monday entering and revising my team line-up. Since the local weather forecast is calling for extended rain from the tropical storm in the gulf, this should be a nice distraction from the dismal weekend weather.
Agree with what you're saying. I had a period of constant tweaking when the contest first opened and then I've not really moved it around since then, I'll go back in just before the deadline and make a few more changes at that point.
 
Here's my team summary:

QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]

RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]

WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]

TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]

K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]

D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]

Total - 30 players, $250 salary

My team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.

I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.

IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.

Good luck to all.

Driver thanks for the response. Interesting team as well. I have since been switching things up once again. I like your idea of only going 2 Kickers, and Grabbing a 3rd QB. I have been toying with it but still haven't pulled the trigger. The 6 Pts per Passing TD is a huge deal, along with the TE 1.5 pts per catch. I am now thinking of a QB/WR (or TE) duo x2 that I could rely on as well to help me hit some big weeks. Say a Rivers/VJax $50, Stafford/Calvin $49, Romo/Dez $46, Kolb/Fitz $43 or a lesser degree Bradford/Kendricks $23, Freeman/Williams $39. I also like the idea of taking Manning and going 3 QBs. Say 2 of the following Kolb/Sanchez/MCoy/McNabb and once Manning is healthy you might be one of few teams to actually own him down the stretch.

 
I think I'm locked in now. 27 players, $250. I was actually at 27 players, $249, and had no idea what to do with the extra $1. I was just going to submit it as-is but I finally found a spot to upgrade, and it also relieved a little pressure on one of my bye weeks. Pretty happy with this team, and honestly don't plan on changing it, barring some freak injuries next week or something.
OK, just made one tweak. Still at 27/$250, but I think I like this version a little better. For real, though, I'm done now. :unsure:
 
BassNBrew -- You make some great points about the QB position and the 6 points per TD. I went heavy on that strategy last year with Rivers/Ben as my QB's knowing they would get TD's with all their weapons. This year I would like to take guys that are not rostered by everyone else, I know last year I had one of the most common teams and I wasnt very unique and in the end that is why I fizzled out and my team only lasted but never really competed.

I will continue to make changes as we go along the next week. My current roster has $115 spent on WR's

 
But hold on, that's not all. I'm about to release a beta version of an entirely different (additional) contest! No, make that 19 more contests throughout the season! Keep an eye on the Shark Pool for more info.
I guess Doug forgot to send me my beta invite. Or we have drastically different definitions of the phrase "about to." :kicksrock:
 
Analyzing bye weeks.....

Week 5 - 4 players (16.7%) at $53 (21.2%)

Week 6 - 2 players (8.3%) at $5 (2.0%)

Week 7 - 4 players (16.7%) at $58 (23.2%)

Week 8 - 4 players (16.7%) at $13 (5.2%)

Week 9 - 5 players (20.8%) at $71 (28.4%)

Week 11 - 5 players (20.8%) at $50 (20.0%)

I'm not worried about week 5 as it is early enough and none of the players on byes are my #1's. Week 7 isn't much of an issue either.

Week 9 looks bad in the chart above, but that is because my RB1 is in there and was my most expensive player. Despite having 5 out, they are all at different positions.

Week 11 is the real issue. I hate doing this to myself this late in the contest. I currently have my WR1, TE1 & PK1, and a depth WR & depth RB out here. I hate losing that much firepower in week 11. 3 of them I'm not changing. And the other 2 I really like as high upside picks. Tough call here, but I need to move one at least, if not two to an earlier bye (and it can't be week 9).

 
Here is my 2011 TeamQB 2 ($32)= 12.8%RB 8 ($84)= 33.6%WR 9 ($96)= 38.4%TE 5 ($26)= 10.4%PK 3 ($6) = 2.4%TD 3 ($6) = 2.4%30 Man Roster = $250From what I learned last year:- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all. - RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
Here's my team summary:QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]Total - 30 players, $250 salaryMy team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.Good luck to all.
Your QB and K strategy has proven to not produce a winner.
 
BassNBrew -- You make some great points about the QB position and the 6 points per TD. I went heavy on that strategy last year with Rivers/Ben as my QB's knowing they would get TD's with all their weapons. This year I would like to take guys that are not rostered by everyone else, I know last year I had one of the most common teams and I wasnt very unique and in the end that is why I fizzled out and my team only lasted but never really competed. I will continue to make changes as we go along the next week. My current roster has $115 spent on WR's
QB is probably the place to do it. I orginally had Ryan on my roster due to his schedule during crunch time and the fact that not many are talking about him here. Problem was the $3 increase over Staford was costing me a $4-$5 RB I wanted.
 
Here is my 2011 TeamQB 2 ($32)= 12.8%RB 8 ($84)= 33.6%WR 9 ($96)= 38.4%TE 5 ($26)= 10.4%PK 3 ($6) = 2.4%TD 3 ($6) = 2.4%30 Man Roster = $250From what I learned last year:- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all. - RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
Here's my team summary:QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]Total - 30 players, $250 salaryMy team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.Good luck to all.
Your QB and K strategy has proven to not produce a winner.
This is true even in the year that Warner was tearing it up and on a majority of the squads, especially the 3 QB rosters. The eventual winner had two QBs and spent that extra cash on Antonio Bryant for 41.00 24.80 24.70 pts down the stretch or 15% of his team's winning total.
 
'eaglezzz said:
BassNBrew -- You make some great points about the QB position and the 6 points per TD. I went heavy on that strategy last year with Rivers/Ben as my QB's knowing they would get TD's with all their weapons. This year I would like to take guys that are not rostered by everyone else, I know last year I had one of the most common teams and I wasnt very unique and in the end that is why I fizzled out and my team only lasted but never really competed. I will continue to make changes as we go along the next week. My current roster has $115 spent on WR's
I think the uniqueness quotient is overrated. Last year my team was consistently among the least unique in the contest according to the Turk's stats. It was that way in Week 1 and it was that way when I was virtually the "least unique" team to make the finals. Despite that, I finished in the top 20 and probably would have made the top 5 or 10 if I hadn't lost Rodgers to a concussion in weeks 14 & 15. When you start taking players "to be different" it probably means you're passing on guys you think have more value and that can't be a good thing.
 
'Driver said:
I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.

IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.

Good luck to all.
You may only average a point or two difference per week, but kickers are just like any other position--scores fluctuate wildly and unpredictably. When you have 1 kicker on a bye and the other guy kicks 2 extra points, the $2 or $3 kicker who has 13 points will look like a much better investment than the $10 3rd QB who scores 15 but never outscores both your top 2.
 
I'm finding it very hard to pick my RB's this year. I keep vacillating between 2-3 strategies:

1. 1 stud RB, 2 value starters, a couple backups/shots in the dark (5-6 total)

2. 1 tier 2 RB, 2 value starters, a ton of backups/shots in the dark (9ish total)

3. 4 value starters, a couple backups/shots in the dark (6-7 total)

Bye issues are not helping matters. Right now I'm submitted w/ strategy 2.

 
'BassNBrew said:
This is true even in the year that Warner was tearing it up and on a majority of the squads, especially the 3 QB rosters. The eventual winner had two QBs and spent that extra cash on Antonio Bryant for 41.00 24.80 24.70 pts down the stretch or 15% of his team's winning total.
I made the finals that year.....and my team laid an egg in weeks 14-16...I think I finished around #220 or so.I hated Antonio Bryant with a passion those three weeks.
 
Thanks everyone for sharing your tips, strategies and different angles before the contest starts. :thumbup:
no problem. It is not as if the 12,000+ people in the contest will be viewing this thread. Maybe we would be lucky to get 500 to see it and hopefully a majority of us can all make it to the finals so we will have something to talk about.
 
I have a feeling my team this year is going to score very poorly in uniqueness, and I have no worries about that.
Seems like there are a lot more "obvious" value picks this year, to those who read the forum and do their research.Last year there was Foster, Tampa Mike and the New England TE pair, but that was about it from what I can remember.This year I see a lot more guys that scream "I'll be 75% owned".
 
I agree that uniqueness is vastly overated in this contest. With rosters of this size every team in unique enough to win.

In fact, I think having a high uniqueness factor puts you at a big disadvantage. Most of the most commonly held players are commonly held for a very good reason and it seems to me that in past years they have outperformed their price far more often than not. If you don't have those players on your team you need a lot to go right for you just to keep up with the pack, then you need to find a way to create separation. A non-unique team needs just a few key longhot players to pan out to create the separation needed to win.

 
'Jayrod said:
Analyzing bye weeks.....Week 5 - 4 players (16.7%) at $53 (21.2%)Week 6 - 2 players (8.3%) at $5 (2.0%)Week 7 - 4 players (16.7%) at $58 (23.2%)Week 8 - 4 players (16.7%) at $13 (5.2%)Week 9 - 5 players (20.8%) at $71 (28.4%)Week 11 - 5 players (20.8%) at $50 (20.0%)I'm not worried about week 5 as it is early enough and none of the players on byes are my #1's. Week 7 isn't much of an issue either.Week 9 looks bad in the chart above, but that is because my RB1 is in there and was my most expensive player. Despite having 5 out, they are all at different positions.Week 11 is the real issue. I hate doing this to myself this late in the contest. I currently have my WR1, TE1 & PK1, and a depth WR & depth RB out here. I hate losing that much firepower in week 11. 3 of them I'm not changing. And the other 2 I really like as high upside picks. Tough call here, but I need to move one at least, if not two to an earlier bye (and it can't be week 9).
I have 1/2 my money and 1/2 my players on week 5/6 byes...
 
I have several friends who are casual football fans who aren't interested in Fantasy Football because of the time commitment. I think a league like this is perfect since they only have to pick their team once. Is there anywhere on the net that you can run your own contest of this type? I'd be willing to pay...
Create this exact contest on an MFL league. Have a $20 entry fee and you will probably get more than 50 entries if you ask in this thread.
what if you created the duplicate league AND removed the restriction on total number of players? It'd be interesting to see if a couple of no-studs/very deep teams could stack up against the FBG contest.
 
Vick was unique last year. Arian Foster was not. The real trick is taking the obvious value and hitting on the long shot.
How was Foster not unique. The best player in the contest was $3. That isn't likely to happen again soon.
He means practicaly everyone in the contest had Foster. Comparatively few teams had Vick. And Foster was more like $13 iirc. Still a bargain, of course, but a far cry from the $3 players.
 
How was Foster not unique. The best player in the contest was $3. That isn't likely to happen again soon.
I think he was $13, and by "not unique" we mean "owned by the majority of entries". He was 99.whatever percent owned by the end of the contest, so that also negates the "best player" tag because everyone benefited from him.
 
Tweaked again... Sure I'll tweak before cutoff when all my cheapo guys get cut from rosters.

[*]QB: 2 @ $37

[*]RB: 6 @ $84

[*]WR: 9 @ $89

[*]TE: 3 @ $25

[*]PK: 3 @ $7

[*]TD: 3 @ $8

[*]TOTAL: 26 @ $250

Weekly Analysis:

[*]Week 5 - 6 players (23.1%) at $103 (41.2%)

[*]Week 6 - 6 players (23.1%) at $32 (12.8%)

[*]Week 7 - 4 players (15.4%) at $44 (17.6%)

[*]Week 8 - 4 players (15.4%) at $17 (6.8%)

[*]Week 9 - 2 players (7.7%) at $33 (13.2%)

[*]Week 11 - 4 players (15.4%) at $21 (8.4%)

Banking on getting through that first cut. General team make up:

[*]QB: 1 Stud/1 Backup with upside

[*]RB: 1 Stud/3 mid-tier/2 long-shots

[*]WR: 1 Stud/2 mid-tier/1 low-tier/5 long-shots

[*]TE: 1 mid-tier/2 low-tier

 
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How was Foster not unique. The best player in the contest was $3. That isn't likely to happen again soon.
I think he was $13, and by "not unique" we mean "owned by the majority of entries". He was 99.whatever percent owned by the end of the contest, so that also negates the "best player" tag because everyone benefited from him.
Yeah, I am not sure why I didn't get that.However, I don't think it is fair to say that nobody benefited. I benefited a ton from having him, as my RB's otherwise sucked.
 
I am curious as to what and how everyone is setting up their picks? What I mean by that is that I have put mine in a spreadsheet, and listed bye week, last year's numbers, this year's projections, and their costs.

Another issue I am having is how many things should I look at? Should I break down how many catches the TEs had last year?

If you always play your studs, should I also put in the strength of their opponents for the last few weeks? When do I stop adding additional items to review for my team.

It is funny how on the outside, this looks like it would be easier to get ready for than a regular fantasy league. Just getting 1 shot at it, makes it hard as hell.

Right now, I have:

QB...2, $41

RB...6, $79

WR...4, $83

TE...2, $25

K....3, $9

DEF..3, $14

I am at $251, so need to change something.

Forgot to add: Was thinking that I pick only the top players and roll the dice that they go injury free this year.

 
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I am curious as to what and how everyone is setting up their picks? What I mean by that is that I have put mine in a spreadsheet, and listed bye week, last year's numbers, this year's projections, and their costs. Another issue I am having is how many things should I look at? Should I break down how many catches the TEs had last year? If you always play your studs, should I also put in the strength of their opponents for the last few weeks? When do I stop adding additional items to review for my team. It is funny how on the outside, this looks like it would be easier to get ready for than a regular fantasy league. Just getting 1 shot at it, makes it hard as hell. Right now, I have: QB...2, $41RB...6, $79WR...4, $83TE...2, $25K....3, $9DEF..3, $14I am at $251, so need to change something.Forgot to add: Was thinking that I pick only the top players and roll the dice that they go injury free this year.
You never have enough info. :D BTW, 4 WRs isn't nearly enough. You need at least 3 (and can score 4 with the flex) every week. even if all 4 of yours have different bye weeks, you have no room for a bad week or an injury.
 
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I am curious as to what and how everyone is setting up their picks? What I mean by that is that I have put mine in a spreadsheet, and listed bye week, last year's numbers, this year's projections, and their costs. Another issue I am having is how many things should I look at? Should I break down how many catches the TEs had last year? If you always play your studs, should I also put in the strength of their opponents for the last few weeks? When do I stop adding additional items to review for my team. It is funny how on the outside, this looks like it would be easier to get ready for than a regular fantasy league. Just getting 1 shot at it, makes it hard as hell. Right now, I have: QB...2, $41RB...6, $79WR...4, $83TE...2, $25K....3, $9DEF..3, $14I am at $251, so need to change something.Forgot to add: Was thinking that I pick only the top players and roll the dice that they go injury free this year.
You never have enough info. :D BTW, 4 WRs isn't nearly enough. You need at least 3 (and can score 4 with the flex) every week. even if all 4 of yours have different bye weeks, you have no room for a bad week or an injury.
I looked at my bye weeks and I have 2 have the same bye week and the other 2 have a different bye week. This contest is going to drive me nuts....
 
I am curious as to what and how everyone is setting up their picks? What I mean by that is that I have put mine in a spreadsheet, and listed bye week, last year's numbers, this year's projections, and their costs. Another issue I am having is how many things should I look at? Should I break down how many catches the TEs had last year? If you always play your studs, should I also put in the strength of their opponents for the last few weeks? When do I stop adding additional items to review for my team. It is funny how on the outside, this looks like it would be easier to get ready for than a regular fantasy league. Just getting 1 shot at it, makes it hard as hell. Right now, I have: QB...2, $41RB...6, $79WR...4, $83TE...2, $25K....3, $9DEF..3, $14I am at $251, so need to change something.Forgot to add: Was thinking that I pick only the top players and roll the dice that they go injury free this year.
That's the beauty of this contest is that you can either spend all your money on studs or you can spread it around or you can do a little of both. I try about 5 different combinations per day and probably will up until the deadline.
 
Vick was unique last year. Arian Foster was not. The real trick is taking the obvious value and hitting on the long shot.
'eaglezzz said:
BassNBrew -- You make some great points about the QB position and the 6 points per TD. I went heavy on that strategy last year with Rivers/Ben as my QB's knowing they would get TD's with all their weapons. This year I would like to take guys that are not rostered by everyone else, I know last year I had one of the most common teams and I wasnt very unique and in the end that is why I fizzled out and my team only lasted but never really competed.

I will continue to make changes as we go along the next week. My current roster has $115 spent on WR's
I think the uniqueness quotient is overrated. Last year my team was consistently among the least unique in the contest according to the Turk's stats. It was that way in Week 1 and it was that way when I was virtually the "least unique" team to make the finals. Despite that, I finished in the top 20 and probably would have made the top 5 or 10 if I hadn't lost Rodgers to a concussion in weeks 14 & 15. When you start taking players "to be different" it probably means you're passing on guys you think have more value and that can't be a good thing.
I strongly agree with the two bolded statements above. This year, suppose there are 10 players that are "obviously the best values" -- either they were priced as backups and are now starters, or their value has increased substantially since the salaries were set (for whatever reason) and thus represent excellent value. I'd argue that any roster that doesn't have all 10 of these players is starting out at a definite disadvantage to the rosters that have all of these players. For example, last year about a third of the rosters did not have A. Foster. However, by week 11 or 12, about 98% of the surviving rosters had Foster -- meaning the third that didn't include Foster were at a severe disadvantage.The real trick is taking the obvious value and hitting on the long shot. To "hit on a long shot," you can't just pick one or two low-cost players with high upside. You increase your odds significantly if you include as many of these players (low-cost players with high upside) on your roster as possible. This means you use all 30 roster slots -- take a few studs and highly-ranked players -- and pack the rest of your lineup with the best available long shots.

 
'Driver said:
Here is my 2011 Team

QB 2 ($32)= 12.8%

RB 8 ($84)= 33.6%

WR 9 ($96)= 38.4%

TE 5 ($26)= 10.4%

PK 3 ($6) = 2.4%

TD 3 ($6) = 2.4%

30 Man Roster = $250

From what I learned last year:

- I went with a max roster size (30) and it pushed me late into the contest (week 11 - and missed cut by less then a point)

- TE killed me as Finley went down - so this year I am focusing more on quantity and splitting my $ up. I think I went with 3 TE's last year and after Finley went down it hurt. So depth here helps with the 1.5 Pts Per Catch

- Backup QB's are not a huge deal, so safe your money. I went with 2 QB's Ben/Rivers and Ben was out first 4 games and it didn't effect me at all.

- RB's will get hurt so have some depth here, and try to pick up more of the PPR guys cause that 0.5 pts a catch can really help.

- WR's are the key. you have to start 3 each week and you have the option to use a 4th for a flex so you better grab an abundance of them. Injury worries are less for WR's then RB's so investing in a top WR is a little safer.

- Kickers - well the more the better I guess, I went with 3 last year and they never came into play for me.

- Defense - I went with 3 Defenses last year (NO, SF, and Det) and the top two I spent money on ended up being duds while the bottom one Det came out on top. Remember you get no points for Scores/Yardage so it is better just to take quantity here as well. I would rather have 4 low cost defenses then 2 of the best. I still might tweek my team (I know I will) maybe go 4 K, 4 Defenses and take a RB/TE off my team.

That is my 2 cents if anyone cares. I always love this contest so I probably take it a little too far. Best of Luck to everyone
Here's my team summary:QB 3 ($43) - 17.2% [2 players in eaglezzz' team above, with 12.8% of total dollars]

RB 8 ($84) - 33.6% [8, 33.6%]

WR 10 ($85) - 34.0% [9, 38.4%]

TE 4 ($27) - 10.8% [5, 10.4%]

K 2 ($4) - 1.6% [3, 2.4%]

D 3 ($7) - 2.8% [3, 2.4%]

Total - 30 players, $250 salary

My team is similar to Eaglezzz' team above, but there are several key differences. First, I have 3 QBs and invested 17.2% of total salary dollars in this position, while he has 2 QBs and invested 12.8%. The QB position scores heavily with 6 pts per passing TD. In addition to 2 mid-level QBs with upside for $33, I decided to add McCoy for $10. He has 2 QBs for $32. I like my strategy much better, even though I had to sacrifice at other parts of my roster.I think our RB/WR/TE allocations are very similar. We're both using the 30-player strategy and incorporating many low-cost value players on our team roster. To permit 3 QBs on my roster, I decided to go with only 2 kickers. If my kickers don't get hurt, I think I'll only sacrifice a point or two per week for 2 versus 3 kickers. If one of my kickers gets hurt, I'll be hurting for the rest of the season.

IMO, the best-ball format facilitates using a committee approach for each position and taking advantage of low-cost value players with upside. Using the maximum 30 player roster is only desirable if there are enough low-cost value players to compensate for a high-cost starting player. Like the comment "it's good to replace a single $15 WR with 5 $3 WRs." However, this only works if the 5 $3 WRs consistently outperform the single $15 WR. I think there are plenty of low-cost value players to fill-out a 30-player roster -- and the total performances of these players will most likely outperform a couple high-priced players.

Good luck to all.
eaglezzz: "I'll take FBG contest startegy for $100 Alex"Alex: "Bal @Pit @Ari @Bal"

eaglezzz: "What is MCCoy's schedule when the money is on the line?"

Are you playing to cash or playing just to last? If McCoy outscores your two primary QBs, you didn't chose the right primary QBs. McCoy's 15-20 points aren't going to help you when you opponents down the stretch have Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, Ben, Romo hanging monster numbers. Do yourself a favor and turn your 15-20 TD QB and 25 TD QB into a 30-40 TD QB for the same cost.

I ran an analysis based on adding Flaco's contributions to Brees last year and as I recall it was less than 30 points including the bye week. If you really believe in the 3 QB strategy, get three QBs the you expect to produce at a similiar level for the year and then reap the bb aspects.

A crummy QB performance is still going to net you 10-15 points. A crummy WR or RB performance nets you 3 points.
I think you make a valid point -- that having a stud QB like Rodgers, Brady, Brees, etc. is worth the price you pay -- but I think you're underestimating the week-to-week variation in points produced by a stud. You state that: "I ran an analysis based on adding Flaco's contributions to Brees last year and as I recall it was less than 30 points including the bye week."Here's what I get comparing Flacco's additional contributions to Brees:

Week 7 - 9.6 additional points (33.4 - 23.8)

Week 9 - 3.4 additional points (28.0 - 24.6)

Week 10 - 31.1 additional points (31.1 - 0, Brees on bye)

Week 12 - 3.9 additional points (26.2 - 22.3)

Week 16 - 0.8 additional points (18.7 - 17.9)

Total = 48.8 additional points (3.1 per week)

Brees scored a total of 368.6 points in Weeks 1-16. The Brees/Flacco combination scored a total of 417.4 points in Weeks 1-16, an increase of 13.2%.

So 2nd QB (Flacco) added 48.8 additional points (13.2%). Now the question is what would the results be if you had taken the Brees $'s and divided them between 2 lower-priced QBs, call them QB's B and C. Would the combination of Flacco and QB's B and C have outscored the 2-QB combo of Brees and Flacco last year. Obviously, you think Brees and Flacco would have done much better than the 3-QB combo. I say it depends on who QB's B and C are. If you select two Qbs for your roster who significantly outperformed their salary levels, I think they outscore Brees and Flacco.

This year you can get combo's like Schaub/McCoy or Cutler/Kolb for the Brees dollars. Will Brees/Flacco or Flacco/Schaub/McCoy do better this year? I'm really not sure. Again, I think you make a valid point, but it's pretty complicated. Comparing the 2-QB option to the 3-QB option, another factor is the additional insurance in case injuries occur (of having a 3rd QB).

 

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