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***Official 2012 Denver Broncos thread*** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter moleculo
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You guys aren't sure what McGahee brings to the table? For one, he is the better inside runner and and second he is the best RB pass blocker than anybody on the roster. Yes his fumbles are annoying as hell, but frankly I'm not certain we can trust Bell/Moreno not to have the same issues and Hillman isn't built to handle the inside runs and get the tough yards you need. Not to mention his pass blocking leaves a lot to be desired.
I really disagree with this.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I think rascal nailed it. This team ain't gonna throw a RB in there full-time who is gonna get Peyton killed back there. If Hillman knew the offense as well as McGahee and was good as pass blocking, he'd probably be the starter by now, but it's obvious that he is still isn't on McGahee's level in one or both of those areas.
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I see that, and you may be right. But I think McGahee is possibly overrated (great system). You have an old RB, but who does everything right (almost), coupled with a conservative coach, who's paranoid as hell at having Manning take a hit. And so he's the unquestioned starter. Look, I know all that makes some sense but I would rather they were more agressive here. But I've always liked coaches that were risk-takers. I think Hillman is the most talented and therefore should be in the mix by now. This window is a small one.
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How do you know this?
because i've seen him blow blocking assignments
I think the team needs a full week of fumble recovery drills in practice this week. There was an instance in yesterday's game where the defensive player tried to pick up a fumble on the 20 yard line instead of just falling on the damn ball. Recover the fumble and give Manning a short field is going to be the best choice almost every time.
moleculo
Footballguy
I just went back and re-watched the Panther game - the second half was possibly the best stretch of defensive football I can remember seeing - certainly from the Broncos. I was at the game and this mostly happened on the opposite end of the field so I didn't really get a feel for how dominant this all was, but watching it on TV tonight...holy cow.
let's pick it up after the Manning fumble (penalties removed):
Panther possession 1:
1-10 CAR 34 Cam Newton pass incomplete short left intended for Brandon LaFell is intercepted by Tony Carter at CAR-40 and returned for 40 yards, touchdownGreat penetration and hustle by Miller, forcing the pick-6.Panther possession 2:
1-15 CAR 6 DeAngelo Williams right guard for -5 yards (tackle by Von Miller)2-20 CAR 1 Cam Newton pass complete short middle to Brandon LaFell for 21 yards (tackle by Danny Trevathan)1-10 CAR 22 Cam Newton pass incomplete short left intended for Steve Smith (defended by Robert Ayers)1-10 CAR 35 DeAngelo Williams left end for no gain (tackle by Derek Wolfe)2-10 CAR 35 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Steve Smith3-10 CAR 35 Cam Newton sacked by Chris Harris for -3 yardsonly bad spot - the big play to LaFell. Outside of that, there was 1 sack, on tackle for a loss, and Cam had constant pressure every time he was back to pass. The defense was absolutely flying around the ball. There was one additional sack that had a horse-collar 15 yarder tacked on - ticky tack call, if you ask me.Panther Possession 3:
1-10 CAR 22 DeAngelo Williams left guard for 4 yards (tackle by Justin Bannan)2-6 CAR 26 Cam Newton pass complete short left to Greg Olsen for 4 yards (tackle by Wesley Woodyard and Tony Carter)3-2 CAR 30 Cam Newton up the middle for -4 yards (tackle by Von Miller)the 3rd and 2 stop by Miller - wow. panther possession 4:
1-10 CAR 20 Jonathan Stewart for -4 yards (tackle by Von Miller). Jonathan Stewart fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Jordan Gross at CAR-162-14 CAR 16 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Louis Murphy3-14 CAR 16 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Brandon LaFell (defended by Robert Ayers)Panther possession 5:
hell of a sack by Ayers, bringing them back to the 2.in 5 panther possessions, the Broncos logged:
[*]1 defensive TD
[*]1 safety
[*]1 int
[*]1 forced fumble
[*]3 sacks
[*]3 tackles for a loss (all by Von Miller)
[*]7 net yards (excluding penalties)
[*]4 plays went for positive yards, 6 plays that went for negative yards.
[*]3 three-and-outs
I don't care who you are - '85 Bears, '00 Ravens...That's a fantastic stretch of defensive football.
Von Miller should be the clear leading candidate for DPOY. He is disruptive, dominant and game-changing. LT-esque.
let's pick it up after the Manning fumble (penalties removed):
Panther possession 1:
1-10 CAR 34 Cam Newton pass incomplete short left intended for Brandon LaFell is intercepted by Tony Carter at CAR-40 and returned for 40 yards, touchdownGreat penetration and hustle by Miller, forcing the pick-6.Panther possession 2:
1-15 CAR 6 DeAngelo Williams right guard for -5 yards (tackle by Von Miller)2-20 CAR 1 Cam Newton pass complete short middle to Brandon LaFell for 21 yards (tackle by Danny Trevathan)1-10 CAR 22 Cam Newton pass incomplete short left intended for Steve Smith (defended by Robert Ayers)1-10 CAR 35 DeAngelo Williams left end for no gain (tackle by Derek Wolfe)2-10 CAR 35 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Steve Smith3-10 CAR 35 Cam Newton sacked by Chris Harris for -3 yardsonly bad spot - the big play to LaFell. Outside of that, there was 1 sack, on tackle for a loss, and Cam had constant pressure every time he was back to pass. The defense was absolutely flying around the ball. There was one additional sack that had a horse-collar 15 yarder tacked on - ticky tack call, if you ask me.Panther Possession 3:
1-10 CAR 22 DeAngelo Williams left guard for 4 yards (tackle by Justin Bannan)2-6 CAR 26 Cam Newton pass complete short left to Greg Olsen for 4 yards (tackle by Wesley Woodyard and Tony Carter)3-2 CAR 30 Cam Newton up the middle for -4 yards (tackle by Von Miller)the 3rd and 2 stop by Miller - wow. panther possession 4:
1-10 CAR 20 Jonathan Stewart for -4 yards (tackle by Von Miller). Jonathan Stewart fumbles (forced by Von Miller), recovered by Jordan Gross at CAR-162-14 CAR 16 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Louis Murphy3-14 CAR 16 Cam Newton pass incomplete short right intended for Brandon LaFell (defended by Robert Ayers)Panther possession 5:
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1-15 CAR 6 Cam Newton pass complete short right to Mike Tolbert for 8 yards (tackle by Keith Brooking)2-7 CAR 14 Cam Newton sacked by Robert Ayers for -12 yards3-19 CAR 2 Cam Newton sacked by Mike Adams for -2 yards, safety[*]1 defensive TD
[*]1 safety
[*]1 int
[*]1 forced fumble
[*]3 sacks
[*]3 tackles for a loss (all by Von Miller)
[*]7 net yards (excluding penalties)
[*]4 plays went for positive yards, 6 plays that went for negative yards.
[*]3 three-and-outs
I don't care who you are - '85 Bears, '00 Ravens...That's a fantastic stretch of defensive football.
Von Miller should be the clear leading candidate for DPOY. He is disruptive, dominant and game-changing. LT-esque.
Clear candidate, absolutely. LEADING candidate? No. Watt leads the league in sacks and has double digit passes defensed as a 3-4 DE, perhaps the second hardest position on the field from which to fill up the stat sheet (behind only NT). Peanut Tillman has a pair of touchdowns, forced 4 fumbles in a single game, and has been arguably the best cover corner in the game. These three are the clear front-runners, and Miller is definitely in the conversation, but I think as of right now he has to be 3rd in the bunch. A few more games like that one and yeah, maybe he becomes the leader in the clubhouse, but as of right now, I'd give it to Watt all day long.
moleculo
Footballguy
Miller should be an MVP candidate now, IMO.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Gotta love a clean sweep of the Chargers. 
Good to see them run the ball well today, too.
Good to see them run the ball well today, too.
moleculo
Footballguy
I'll take an ugly win in Arrowhead any day of the week. that place has historically been a really tough place to get a W, especially late in the season.
Really, this game wasn't as close as the score indicated. Broncos won by 8, but had two missed FG's so they easily should have covered the point spread. Chiefs were 3-14 on 3rd down conversions, vs the Broncos @ 7-14. That's the difference in the game right there. Not converting on 3rd down leads to field goals.
KC suffered from some really bad coaching decisions which could have made things more interesting. Peyton Hillis throwing the ball on 3rd down, not going for it on 4th-2 from the 4 yard line, etc. Lots of KC mis-cues too - false starts, holding, etc.
couple of notes: KC had 148 rushing yards on 31 attempts - 4.8 YPC. Cause for concern? I'm not sure. Broncos were in nickel most of the game. Why do that, against a one dimensional rushing team? It's Brady freakin Quinn, for cryin' out loud. I think the reason they played so much nickle was to get this team some better experience stopping the run from that formation in anticipation of meeting the Patriots in the playoffs. If that's the case, stats be damned and no reason to be concerned. Despite that, Denver is now the #2 run D in terms of YPC.
Moreno looked very adequate yesterday. vision, patience. he got tackled by the turf monster a couple of times, but overall, did a heck of a job, especially in the final 6 minute drive that iced the game. When the whole world knew Manning would be handing it off, Moreno had 8 carries for 32 yards as part of a 12 play, 68 yard, 6:24 drive to ice the game. Also, no fumbles!
Manning had a couple of odd throws today. not sure why he had that pick. double coverage should have been obvious before the snap, I guess Manning was just letting Decker try to make a play.
Really, this game wasn't as close as the score indicated. Broncos won by 8, but had two missed FG's so they easily should have covered the point spread. Chiefs were 3-14 on 3rd down conversions, vs the Broncos @ 7-14. That's the difference in the game right there. Not converting on 3rd down leads to field goals.
KC suffered from some really bad coaching decisions which could have made things more interesting. Peyton Hillis throwing the ball on 3rd down, not going for it on 4th-2 from the 4 yard line, etc. Lots of KC mis-cues too - false starts, holding, etc.
couple of notes: KC had 148 rushing yards on 31 attempts - 4.8 YPC. Cause for concern? I'm not sure. Broncos were in nickel most of the game. Why do that, against a one dimensional rushing team? It's Brady freakin Quinn, for cryin' out loud. I think the reason they played so much nickle was to get this team some better experience stopping the run from that formation in anticipation of meeting the Patriots in the playoffs. If that's the case, stats be damned and no reason to be concerned. Despite that, Denver is now the #2 run D in terms of YPC.
Moreno looked very adequate yesterday. vision, patience. he got tackled by the turf monster a couple of times, but overall, did a heck of a job, especially in the final 6 minute drive that iced the game. When the whole world knew Manning would be handing it off, Moreno had 8 carries for 32 yards as part of a 12 play, 68 yard, 6:24 drive to ice the game. Also, no fumbles!
Manning had a couple of odd throws today. not sure why he had that pick. double coverage should have been obvious before the snap, I guess Manning was just letting Decker try to make a play.
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ffldrew
Footballguy
Went with the family to Mile High today...what a gorgeous day - maybe 70 or so degrees at kickoff - in December. Colorado is the greatest.
First time I've seen Peyton live - man he is something to watch. And Von Miller is easily joining the Bronco greats we have had at LB.
We sat in South Stands and it was great to watch from the end zone all game - the way Peyton was seeing things. After a while you knew what he was going to do between Tamme and DT - he rarely cared about any other read. It did seem as though he was trying to establish the run a little too much in the first half especially - checked in to some bad runs.
So from here on out it's looking good - I think they could have gone at the Bucs harder today from the air - but they wanted to see if they could get running going more effectively. I doubt they do that come the playoffs. I'd love to see them against the 3 teams they've lost to. I think they could win 2 out of the 3 today - they have improved that much. Especially the Defense which was great against Martin today.
First time I've seen Peyton live - man he is something to watch. And Von Miller is easily joining the Bronco greats we have had at LB.
We sat in South Stands and it was great to watch from the end zone all game - the way Peyton was seeing things. After a while you knew what he was going to do between Tamme and DT - he rarely cared about any other read. It did seem as though he was trying to establish the run a little too much in the first half especially - checked in to some bad runs.
So from here on out it's looking good - I think they could have gone at the Bucs harder today from the air - but they wanted to see if they could get running going more effectively. I doubt they do that come the playoffs. I'd love to see them against the 3 teams they've lost to. I think they could win 2 out of the 3 today - they have improved that much. Especially the Defense which was great against Martin today.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
I agree with this'BusterTBronco said:
moleculo
Footballguy
yeah. The Broncos may drop the Baltimore game, but I doubt it's a matter of getting soft playing poor teams. One other factor: Denver historically has not done well in December. They have had a winning record only a few times in my lifetime. Hell, both seasons they won the Superbowl, they were 2-2.Regardless, this will be a good test to see if Denver can measure up with the Raven's style of physical play.
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
I never understand observations like this. There are totally different players on the team now with a different coach and a different playbook. Why would the month have any effect on them? Are people who spend time in Denver more susceptible to being tired in December? Does the shorter days wreak havoc on them?I get the idea that traveling east and playing early could cause problems. I get that Baltimore is a good team. I just dont see how the month on the calendar is relevant.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I think the Broncos are a cinch for no worse than the 3 seed, win or lose this weekend, since I think they'll win against Cleveland and KC, and I don't see the Ravens winning their last two games. But obviously the best case scenario would be winning out and SF beating NE, so the Broncos could snag a first round bye.
moleculo
Footballguy
I don’t get it either, but its a streak that has spanned a long time. I think even in the Reeves era, the team faded late. It's only the odd season that the Broncos have finished strong. Here's hoping Manning/Fox can cure this.Honestly, one new guy who may help here is Luke Riccheson (?), the new strength & conditioning coach. Tuten was one constant - he was there forever. Who knows if the problem was fatigue.
moleculo
Footballguy
wow. dominating game, on the road, vs a team with a good record. I know - Baltimore is banged up, Dierdorf seemed to make it his life's work to point that out, but man, a road win vs a good team is always a good thing. No turn-overs, and a competent running game! And, how about that D, huh? Broncos should have two CB's and two OLB's in the pro-bowl this year.
Denver now controls their own destiny for the #2 seed. They have to beat Cleveland and KC, both games at home, to secure it. I see no way they lose either, and will be booking my flight/hotel to Denver tomorrow to fly out for the Divisional round playoff game.
Here's how I see playoffs shaping out:
[*]Patriots beating Bengals, Colts beating Ravens. with all of the injuries Baltimore is dealing with and a hot Colts team, I can definitely see this happening.
[*]Broncos beating Patriots, Colts beating Texans. Patriots won't be able to play their up-tempo game at altitude and with crowd noise. Brady vs Manning - this game will be epic. Texans will have the task of playing the same time 3x within a 5 week span. It's tough to beat a team 3x in a season, i think the colts can pull the upset here.
[*]Broncos beat Colts - Manning vs the Colts, for a trip to the Super Bowl. Yes, I'm calling it right now - I think this is a superbowl team, and i'm pretty damn excited about it!!!
Denver now controls their own destiny for the #2 seed. They have to beat Cleveland and KC, both games at home, to secure it. I see no way they lose either, and will be booking my flight/hotel to Denver tomorrow to fly out for the Divisional round playoff game.
Here's how I see playoffs shaping out:
[*]Patriots beating Bengals, Colts beating Ravens. with all of the injuries Baltimore is dealing with and a hot Colts team, I can definitely see this happening.
[*]Broncos beating Patriots, Colts beating Texans. Patriots won't be able to play their up-tempo game at altitude and with crowd noise. Brady vs Manning - this game will be epic. Texans will have the task of playing the same time 3x within a 5 week span. It's tough to beat a team 3x in a season, i think the colts can pull the upset here.
[*]Broncos beat Colts - Manning vs the Colts, for a trip to the Super Bowl. Yes, I'm calling it right now - I think this is a superbowl team, and i'm pretty damn excited about it!!!
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I am not ready to predict that much yet, but I am ecstatic that the Broncos control their own destiny now as far as getting a bye goes. Win the last two at home and you won't have to play the Patriots in New England in January, which gives them a much greater chance at winning the game should they meet in the divisional round.
The Kuhn
Footballguy
If you believe in it that strongly, put money on the Colts in Vegas and you could hit the jackpot...frankly, I think that's a HUGE long shot given how they play on the road.Broncos and Patriots are definitely the two well-rounded teams in the AFC, and unless the Texans get healthy on D, it feels like a two-horse race to me. The Patriots TEs could exploit this D all day long, so if they have Gronk and Hernandez available, it will be a nail-biter. I fear it will come down to how much the refs allow pressure on Brady though...
BRONG
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Might as well post this here, too...
I still can't find out what was wrong with Moreno's back (it appeared) on Sunday. Anybody? He was getting worked on, on the trainer's table and never returned, although the game was in hand. When he stood up to kind of test/stretch it, he started wincing.
Spasms? Nothing on roto about it...
I still can't find out what was wrong with Moreno's back (it appeared) on Sunday. Anybody? He was getting worked on, on the trainer's table and never returned, although the game was in hand. When he stood up to kind of test/stretch it, he started wincing.
Spasms? Nothing on roto about it...
moleculo
Footballguy
from what I understand, Fox said there were no injuries in the post-game presser, so probably no biggie.Might as well post this here, too...I still can't find out what was wrong with Moreno's back (it appeared) on Sunday. Anybody? He was getting worked on, on the trainer's table and never returned, although the game was in hand. When he stood up to kind of test/stretch it, he started wincing.
Vegas is. Denver's 4:1 odds are currently second in the league behind San Fran's 7:2.
BRONG
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So there was indeed a problem, his ribs. I'm surprised there hasn't been more concern in FF circles. That's something that could rear its ugly head with one hit. Or even with a large lead which they are predicted to have, they take the added precaution of not leaving him open for further injury. It must've just been a bruise, and he's practicing fully, but still...from what I understand, Fox said there were no injuries in the post-game presser, so probably no biggie.Might as well post this here, too...I still can't find out what was wrong with Moreno's back (it appeared) on Sunday. Anybody? He was getting worked on, on the trainer's table and never returned, although the game was in hand. When he stood up to kind of test/stretch it, he started wincing.
moleculo
Footballguy
Wow...the road to the Super Bowl now goes through Denver. Most importantly, NE and Houston will eventually play each other - Denver won't have to play both. That's the difference between #1 and #2.
in divisional round, Denver will have either cincy, Baltimore, or Indy. broncos have already beaten the first two, on the road... shouldn't be much trouble handling these guys at home, with a weeks worth of preparation. and then - New England or Houston in the Championship game!
I'm freakin pumped. I have my playoff tickets bought and paid for already. I have to fly in from Charlotte so it's a big deal for me to go - bought airline tix for the divisional round a couple of weeks ago. A buddy of mine is an airline pilot - told him that if he can take care of transportation, i'll take care of tickets...hoping his schedule cooperates. Here we go, it's gonna be an awesome ride from here on out!
in divisional round, Denver will have either cincy, Baltimore, or Indy. broncos have already beaten the first two, on the road... shouldn't be much trouble handling these guys at home, with a weeks worth of preparation. and then - New England or Houston in the Championship game!
I'm freakin pumped. I have my playoff tickets bought and paid for already. I have to fly in from Charlotte so it's a big deal for me to go - bought airline tix for the divisional round a couple of weeks ago. A buddy of mine is an airline pilot - told him that if he can take care of transportation, i'll take care of tickets...hoping his schedule cooperates. Here we go, it's gonna be an awesome ride from here on out!
I too am quite pumped for the post season. I don't know if you listen to the Denver sports stations via Internet, but everyone here is really pumped... and why not?
The D is just amazing, PFM is having the second best season of his career (I've not researched that personally, it's what the media is saying), and the O-Line is in BEAST MODE.
Have fun when you come out here. Weather has been decent but unseasonably humid by our standards (at least it seems that way), so it 'feels' a bit colder than usual, which means it's still not THAT cold
The D is just amazing, PFM is having the second best season of his career (I've not researched that personally, it's what the media is saying), and the O-Line is in BEAST MODE.
Have fun when you come out here. Weather has been decent but unseasonably humid by our standards (at least it seems that way), so it 'feels' a bit colder than usual, which means it's still not THAT cold
Have fun at the playoff game! The stadium was electrifying today! What an awesome experience.
It's true. Only 2004 featured more TDs or a better rating. Only 2010 had more yards.I too am quite pumped for the post season. I don't know if you listen to the Denver sports stations via Internet, but everyone here is really pumped... and why not?
The D is just amazing, PFM is having the second best season of his career (I've not researched that personally, it's what the media is saying), and the O-Line is in BEAST MODE.
Have fun when you come out here. Weather has been decent but unseasonably humid by our standards (at least it seems that way), so it 'feels' a bit colder than usual, which means it's still not THAT cold
Courtesy of Chase, the Denver Broncos just had the 4th largest improvement in scoring differential from one season to the next in NFL history.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Love that they are just continuing to roll - but they haven't been in a true dogfight in a long long time and that makes me leery. It would have been nice to have to respond to some tough situations for DT and Decker who are really young pups when you think about it - and a test for Moreno to make sure he would be cool under pressure rather than reverting to his old habits.
What I also like is that Manning gets everyone in the game as receivers and they are all on their toes - 5 receivers with over 40 catches - that's a lot of trust established.
What I also like is that Manning gets everyone in the game as receivers and they are all on their toes - 5 receivers with over 40 catches - that's a lot of trust established.
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See you there. I favor the ORANGE CRUSH by 9 over Cincy. 8 vs Balt. And 11 against Indy. That's a lot.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Considering the injury he's coming back from and the fact that he has an entirely new cast of coaches and teammates, that's amazing. Keep this winning up, Denver.It's true. Only 2004 featured more TDs or a better rating. Only 2010 had more yards.I too am quite pumped for the post season. I don't know if you listen to the Denver sports stations via Internet, but everyone here is really pumped... and why not?
The D is just amazing, PFM is having the second best season of his career (I've not researched that personally, it's what the media is saying), and the O-Line is in BEAST MODE.
Have fun when you come out here. Weather has been decent but unseasonably humid by our standards (at least it seems that way), so it 'feels' a bit colder than usual, which means it's still not THAT cold
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Question:
When is the last time the Vegas favorite heading into the playoffs actually won the Super Bowl? The '04 Patriots would be my guess, but maybe the '09 Saints (or were the Colts the favorite?).
When is the last time the Vegas favorite heading into the playoffs actually won the Super Bowl? The '04 Patriots would be my guess, but maybe the '09 Saints (or were the Colts the favorite?).
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moleculo
Footballguy
Broncos were the only team in the league to not allow a single opposing QB throw for 300 yards. Not Tom Brady, not Drew Brees, not Matt Ryan, not Josh Freeman, not Carson Palmer, no one.
Broncos allowed only three backs to eclipse 100 yards rushing - Foster with 105, Charles with 107, and Ridley with 151.
Broncos allowed only one run for over 25 yards all season, and 12 pass plays of over 35 yards.
I think that's pretty damn impressive, especially considering how terrible this defense was as recent as 2010.
Broncos allowed only three backs to eclipse 100 yards rushing - Foster with 105, Charles with 107, and Ridley with 151.
Broncos allowed only one run for over 25 yards all season, and 12 pass plays of over 35 yards.
I think that's pretty damn impressive, especially considering how terrible this defense was as recent as 2010.
Man that Ridley stat leaves a bad taste in my mouth. More than a small part of me hopes we get NE in the AFC Championship game to see that match-up again. First, however, we need to get past the Bengals
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Rahim Moore should have been cut the second tonight's game ended.John Fox's game plan was conservatively gutless. Sadly for Manning, he played really well most of the game, but that awful INT in OT is all many will remember from this game in regards to his performance.
If we're cutting Moore, do we have to cut Doom and Miller, too? #1 pass rush in the NFL this season went completely MIA in the postseason. Maybe if Flacco were feeling just the tiniest bit uncomfortable in the pocket, we wouldn't be talking about how many bombs Denver's defense gave up. Not to take anything away from Moore's play (what a terrible angle), just saying he was hardly the only defender who didn't show up.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Fox has to go if they have any chance at winning a Superbowl.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
When Von got hurt and left the game in the 4th Q, I joked to my buddy that he probably did it on purpose just so that his name would finally be called. While it's true that neither of your DEs had a good game, sometimes you have to give the opponent a tip of the cap. "They are getting paid too" as the saying goes.But Moore's catastrophe was self-induced. There's no giving Jacoby Jones credit on that one. Moore simply blew it.
Absolutely. Dude has a career losing record in the playoffs, and has never really had any postseason success to speak of. Plus, if Bill Cowher, the patron saint of conservative coaching, couldn't win a title, then no other conservative coach has a prayer.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I'm confused. Cowher won the Super Bowl.
Right. And Fox has a winning record in the postseason (6-5 after today), including numerous playoff successes (a SB appearance, an NFCCG appearance, and last season's upset over Pittsburgh- which was a bigger upset than today's upset to Baltimore). I was being ironical.
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