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***Official*** 2012 FBG Subscriber Contest Thread (3 Viewers)

But if not one of those, I am looking forward to the explanation of why you would rather have roughly a 7% chance less of being alive in the contest.
An average kicker score column is needed in our information.
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NUM PK  ALL     ALIVE   SURV%   ALL AVG LIVE AVG1       1519    615     40.5%   167.66  176.772       8773    5034    57.4%   174.84  180.683       2552    1638    64.2%   176.44  181.824       305     177     58.0%   173.77  180.415+      144     40      27.8%   164.05  178.57
We have the average of the teams with 2 kickers and the average with 3 - average of the actual kickers isn't a good metric to look at because it ignores extra value you can accumulate at other positions. Even with that, you are still ignoring that average score is only part of the picture - volatility matters as well. In the elimination weeks, would you rather have a team that scored 180 every week or 360 50% of the time and 0 50% of the time?Luckily the volatility and average score is summarized above in the survival rate. There are potential arguments against it, which I have provided, but you don't seem to be interested in those.
 
Is this total $ or just starter $? :)For example my team has Ryan and Locker and Gabbert.Ryan has contribued to 100.75 for me (I've used him 3 weeks). The other 30.15 he scored didn't factor in for me.Locker has contributed 34.40 for me (I used him 1 week).Gabbert has contribued 0.00 for me (Haven't used him at all). :) -QG
This is "Starter" money only.If your team were the only team in the set, only Locker's 34.4 from the first week would show as a contribution. Any points he scored the subsequent weeks aren't included, because they didn't help your team at all.Again, this is just an arbitrary way of looking at the data.
That' cool that you utilized starter money :thumbup: -QG
 
This contest is so depressing. Only four weeks in, we've already lost almost half the entries that started the contest. For every 30 entries that are currently still happy to be alive, only 1 will survive to the finals. Sure, winning the $20,000 would be nice but there's so much death and destruction left in its wake.
The $35K contest is a pirateBlustering in from seaWith a rollicking song he sweeps alongSwaggering boisterously.His face is weatherbeatenHe wears a hooded sashWith a silver hat about his headAnd a bristling black mustacheHe growls as he storms the countryA villain big and boldAnd the trees all shake and quiver and quakeAs he robs them of their gold.The Autumn wind is a RaiderPillaging just for funHe'll knock you 'round and upside downAnd laugh when he's conquered and won.
 
Every week Starters:

[*]QB: Fitzpatrick ($11)



Dead weight: (Meaning never used)

[*]QB: Freeman ($16) :X

[*]QB: Tannehill ($4)

[*]RB: Mendenhall ($4) - Bought for the long haul

[*]RB: Royster ($3)

[*]WR: Brown ($6) -- Not unexpected, I picked him up for the last half of the season

[*]WR: Jean ($3)

[*]WR: Broyles ($2)

[*]TE: Kendricks ($9) :X

[*]PK: Suisham ($3)



Usage: (Meaning I have used the players at least once to contribute to my score)

[*]QB: 1 of 3 used ($20 wasted)

[*]RB: 4 of 6 used ($7 wasted)

[*]WR: 8 of 11 used $11 wasted)

[*]TE: 2 of 3 used ($9 wasted)

[*]PK: 2 of 3 used ($3 wasted)

[*]TD: 3 of 3 used

[*]OVERALL: 20 of 29 used to date ($50 wasted to date)

 
This contest is so depressing. Only four weeks in, we've already lost almost half the entries that started the contest. For every 30 entries that are currently still happy to be alive, only 1 will survive to the finals. Sure, winning the $20,000 would be nice but there's so much death and destruction left in its wake.
The $35K contest is a pirateBlustering in from seaWith a rollicking song he sweeps alongSwaggering boisterously.His face is weatherbeatenHe wears a hooded sashWith a silver hat about his headAnd a bristling black mustacheHe growls as he storms the countryA villain big and boldAnd the trees all shake and quiver and quakeAs he robs them of their gold.The Autumn wind is a RaiderPillaging just for funHe'll knock you 'round and upside downAnd laugh when he's conquered and won.
Nicely done! :goodposting:Now it's time for the real blustery winds with the full bye weeks upon us. It will be interesting to see if the cut lines have as big a drop off as last season or not.
 
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But if not one of those, I am looking forward to the explanation of why you would rather have roughly a 7% chance less of being alive in the contest.
An average kicker score column is needed in our information.
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NUM PK  ALL     ALIVE   SURV%   ALL AVG LIVE AVG1       1519    615     40.5%   167.66  176.772       8773    5034    57.4%   174.84  180.683       2552    1638    64.2%   176.44  181.824       305     177     58.0%   173.77  180.415+      144     40      27.8%   164.05  178.57
We have the average of the teams with 2 kickers and the average with 3 - average of the actual kickers isn't a good metric to look at because it ignores extra value you can accumulate at other positions. Even with that, you are still ignoring that average score is only part of the picture - volatility matters as well. In the elimination weeks, would you rather have a team that scored 180 every week or 360 50% of the time and 0 50% of the time?Luckily the volatility and average score is summarized above in the survival rate. There are potential arguments against it, which I have provided, but you don't seem to be interested in those.
Average of kicker score may not be the best metric to look at but I'm not sure it's any worse than average team score. The fact is that there is so much cross effect in any specific position analysis that its difficult to make any assertion from the data. It appears that 3 kickers is at least slightly better than 2, but who's to say that the reason is because of the difference in kickers and not because of one of the many other possible differences. A better way, I think, to look at is is to examine by team make up. As in compare the 3 kicker teams to the 2 kicker teams that have the same roster size. That would give you a much clearer picture of the impact of 2 vs 3 kickers as it eliminates a lot of the other variables other than player selection but that should even itself out.Also the 7% difference in survival rate might seem like a lot but its still early and I'd think it'd be well within any possible margin of error.
 
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A better way, I think, to look at is is to examine by team make up. As in compare the 3 kicker teams to the 2 kicker teams that have the same roster size. That would give you a much clearer picture of the impact of 2 vs 3 kickers as it eliminates a lot of the other variables other than player selection but that should even itself out.
Good idea. Eventually we'll probably break down and do a full-blown GLM or something, but for now I'm trying to stick with these one- and two-way analyses. :)So for kickers:
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ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	1001	3263	287	46	3619	220	1429	138	17	920	126	1072	152	13	1421	64	861	193	16	1222	35	688	229	9	523	20	503	266	19	624	16	319	272	17	325	16	214	232	13	926	7	136	208	29	427	2	109	168	27	628	4	59	132	26	929	3	60	102	23	530	6	72	184	51	26ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	397	1740	135	20	1019	86	821	68	8	120	56	636	94	5	221	25	514	109	8	322	19	410	146	5	123	9	297	187	10	324	6	205	186	10	025	6	134	164	9	326	5	88	136	17	027	0	78	112	18	528	3	35	99	15	229	3	39	78	17	230	1	46	131	36	8SURV	1	2	3	4	5+18	39.7%	53.3%	47.0%	43.5%	27.8%19	39.1%	57.5%	49.3%	47.1%	11.1%20	44.4%	59.3%	61.8%	38.5%	14.3%21	39.1%	59.7%	56.5%	50.0%	25.0%22	54.3%	59.6%	63.8%	55.6%	20.0%23	45.0%	59.0%	70.3%	52.6%	50.0%24	37.5%	64.3%	68.4%	58.8%	0.0%25	37.5%	62.6%	70.7%	69.2%	33.3%26	71.4%	64.7%	65.4%	58.6%	0.0%27	0.0%	71.6%	66.7%	66.7%	83.3%28	75.0%	59.3%	75.0%	57.7%	22.2%29	100.0%	65.0%	76.5%	73.9%	40.0%30	16.7%	63.9%	71.2%	70.6%	30.8%ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	168.21	174.14	173.48	168.55	164.6919	166.81	174.96	173.63	172.39	168.5920	167.67	175.04	176.38	165.71	162.3021	167.32	175.93	175.27	171.09	173.0422	168.28	175.59	176.52	179.08	157.3323	163.60	174.90	177.74	171.42	165.1524	166.86	175.02	177.84	178.54	162.3325	162.91	175.29	177.13	177.16	165.6926	165.74	175.36	176.92	175.50	161.9827	109.49	176.31	176.66	178.89	176.8828	170.00	174.98	177.49	175.08	165.0529	168.47	173.90	178.23	176.43	165.7430	157.61	175.19	177.07	173.86	155.75ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	177.36	180.46	180.70	178.29	175.6519	175.89	180.98	181.04	182.17	164.8620	175.63	180.37	182.45	181.16	182.0821	176.14	181.47	182.20	175.66	175.0622	176.91	181.10	181.40	184.14	175.9523	176.95	180.55	182.06	179.85	178.9024	174.60	180.25	182.74	183.36	------25	178.33	180.22	182.25	183.22	176.3826	169.03	181.29	182.65	183.02	------27	------	179.78	181.50	179.99	180.2828	176.14	180.66	180.96	180.48	181.0829	168.47	178.15	181.25	180.24	181.2430	172.73	181.69	181.41	179.23	183.05
The first two tables show the counts of all teams and still-alive teams, respectively, broken out by total roster size and number of kickers. The third table shows the survival rates. The fourth and fifth tables show the average total weekly scores for all teams and still-alive teams.So just eyeballing these tables, we might come to the interesting conclusion that if you're sticking with a small (18 or 19) roster, then you're better off with just 2 kickers. Adding a third kicker presumably leaves you too thin at the more important positions. If you go with a larger roster, then adding a third kicker appears to be a good idea.
 
Also, I'm not avoiding posting the individual position scoring, I just don't store that data in a way that makes it easy to get. That's at the top of the list of things to add to my DB.

 
Every week Starters:

[*]QB: Fitzpatrick ($11)



Dead weight: (Meaning never used)

[*]QB: Freeman ($16) :X

[*]QB: Tannehill ($4)

[*]RB: Mendenhall ($4) - Bought for the long haul

[*]RB: Royster ($3)

[*]WR: Brown ($6) -- Not unexpected, I picked him up for the last half of the season

[*]WR: Jean ($3)

[*]WR: Broyles ($2)

[*]TE: Kendricks ($9) :X

[*]PK: Suisham ($3)



Usage: (Meaning I have used the players at least once to contribute to my score)

[*]QB: 1 of 3 used ($20 wasted)

[*]RB: 4 of 6 used ($7 wasted)

[*]WR: 8 of 11 used $11 wasted)

[*]TE: 2 of 3 used ($9 wasted)

[*]PK: 2 of 3 used ($3 wasted)

[*]TD: 3 of 3 used

[*]OVERALL: 20 of 29 used to date ($50 wasted to date)
I like this breakdown. I'm in a similar boat with Palmer even though he hasn't been as bad as Freeman.Every week Starters:

[*]RB: Lynch ($19)



Dead weight: (Meaning never used)

[*]QB: Palmer ($15)

[*]RB: Hillis ($15)

[*]RB: Blount ($6)

[*]RB: Vereen ($6)

[*]RB: Powell ($4)

[*]RB: Dwyer ($4)

[*]RB: Royster ($3)

[*]WR: S.Smith ($5)

[*]TE: Z.Miller ($6)

[*]PK: Lindell($3)



Usage: (Meaning I have used the players at least once to contribute to my score)

[*]QB: 2 of 3 used ($15 wasted out of $30)

[*]RB: 3 of 9 used ($23 wasted out of $75)

[*]WR: 7 of 8 used ($5 wasted out of $93)

[*]TE: 3 of 4 used ($6 wasted out of $32)

[*]PK: 2 of 3 used ($3 wasted out of $9)

[*]TD: 3 of 3 used

[*]OVERALL: 20 of 30 used to date ($52 wasted to date)

Really happy with Flacco, Daniels, and Olsen. Andre Roberts was the best $3 I've ever spent even though he hasn't been critical yet. Still have hope for Zach Miller whenever they give up on Russell Wilson. I thought switching out Heath Miller for Zach Miller was a shark move when Winslow was dropped :bag:

 
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A better way, I think, to look at is is to examine by team make up. As in compare the 3 kicker teams to the 2 kicker teams that have the same roster size. That would give you a much clearer picture of the impact of 2 vs 3 kickers as it eliminates a lot of the other variables other than player selection but that should even itself out.
Good idea. Eventually we'll probably break down and do a full-blown GLM or something, but for now I'm trying to stick with these one- and two-way analyses. :)So for kickers:
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ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	1001	3263	287	46	3619	220	1429	138	17	920	126	1072	152	13	1421	64	861	193	16	1222	35	688	229	9	523	20	503	266	19	624	16	319	272	17	325	16	214	232	13	926	7	136	208	29	427	2	109	168	27	628	4	59	132	26	929	3	60	102	23	530	6	72	184	51	26ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	397	1740	135	20	1019	86	821	68	8	120	56	636	94	5	221	25	514	109	8	322	19	410	146	5	123	9	297	187	10	324	6	205	186	10	025	6	134	164	9	326	5	88	136	17	027	0	78	112	18	528	3	35	99	15	229	3	39	78	17	230	1	46	131	36	8SURV	1	2	3	4	5+18	39.7%	53.3%	47.0%	43.5%	27.8%19	39.1%	57.5%	49.3%	47.1%	11.1%20	44.4%	59.3%	61.8%	38.5%	14.3%21	39.1%	59.7%	56.5%	50.0%	25.0%22	54.3%	59.6%	63.8%	55.6%	20.0%23	45.0%	59.0%	70.3%	52.6%	50.0%24	37.5%	64.3%	68.4%	58.8%	0.0%25	37.5%	62.6%	70.7%	69.2%	33.3%26	71.4%	64.7%	65.4%	58.6%	0.0%27	0.0%	71.6%	66.7%	66.7%	83.3%28	75.0%	59.3%	75.0%	57.7%	22.2%29	100.0%	65.0%	76.5%	73.9%	40.0%30	16.7%	63.9%	71.2%	70.6%	30.8%ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	168.21	174.14	173.48	168.55	164.6919	166.81	174.96	173.63	172.39	168.5920	167.67	175.04	176.38	165.71	162.3021	167.32	175.93	175.27	171.09	173.0422	168.28	175.59	176.52	179.08	157.3323	163.60	174.90	177.74	171.42	165.1524	166.86	175.02	177.84	178.54	162.3325	162.91	175.29	177.13	177.16	165.6926	165.74	175.36	176.92	175.50	161.9827	109.49	176.31	176.66	178.89	176.8828	170.00	174.98	177.49	175.08	165.0529	168.47	173.90	178.23	176.43	165.7430	157.61	175.19	177.07	173.86	155.75ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	177.36	180.46	180.70	178.29	175.6519	175.89	180.98	181.04	182.17	164.8620	175.63	180.37	182.45	181.16	182.0821	176.14	181.47	182.20	175.66	175.0622	176.91	181.10	181.40	184.14	175.9523	176.95	180.55	182.06	179.85	178.9024	174.60	180.25	182.74	183.36	------25	178.33	180.22	182.25	183.22	176.3826	169.03	181.29	182.65	183.02	------27	------	179.78	181.50	179.99	180.2828	176.14	180.66	180.96	180.48	181.0829	168.47	178.15	181.25	180.24	181.2430	172.73	181.69	181.41	179.23	183.05
The first two tables show the counts of all teams and still-alive teams, respectively, broken out by total roster size and number of kickers. The third table shows the survival rates. The fourth and fifth tables show the average total weekly scores for all teams and still-alive teams.So just eyeballing these tables, we might come to the interesting conclusion that if you're sticking with a small (18 or 19) roster, then you're better off with just 2 kickers. Adding a third kicker presumably leaves you too thin at the more important positions. If you go with a larger roster, then adding a third kicker appears to be a good idea.
Thanks Iggy, great stuff here...One, I love that we're doing all this analysis for some freaking kickers.Two, I agree with your conclusion that the ideal number of kickers is dependant on the size of your roster. It seems that 21 or 22 is the cross over point where it at least makes sense to consider a 3rd kicker. And 25 or higher you should almost certainly roster a 3rd. One interesting thing is that for rosters sizes 22, 24, 25, and 26, having a 4th Kicker actually increased your average score but decreased your survival percent!
 
maybe just a little simple way to get a snapshot of the value would be to compare the list we used to draft with with the current ranking based on points...?for instance Rodgers was the highest priced QB but right now he ranks______ in this contest scoring wise at QB?not very scientific but a snapshot....is there a way to see the original draft sheet....?....can somebody post a link if they have one.....?....original costs, etc....and is there a way to see where each player is ranked right now based on points scored...?
I can post all this info but not until tomorrow morning some time. If no one's done it by then I'll put it up.
:thumbup: :banned:
Here's a big table with every player, their cost, their weekly points, their season total points, the number of entries they were on and the number of live entries they're on. As others have pointed out, simple points per dollar isn't a very useful metric, but here's the raw data to do with as you please:
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POS	PLAYER                        	PRICE	WEEK 1	WEEK 2	WEEK 3	WEEK 4	TOTAL	ALL	ALIVE1_QB	Aaron Rodgers                 	$31	27.85	14.35	12.85	39.25	94.30	2559	13491_QB	Tom Brady                     	$30	23.90	19.70	23.45	41.40	108.45	1186	6281_QB	Drew Brees                    	$29	30.95	24.25	27.90	40.30	123.40	1024	6051_QB	Cam Newton                    	$28	17.55	31.75	12.70	37.35	99.35	430	1971_QB	Matthew Stafford              	$26	18.05	16.50	21.10	23.35	79.00	1625	7561_QB	Philip Rivers                 	$23	17.35	31.10	4.85	20.45	73.75	97	451_QB	Michael Vick                  	$22	23.05	29.95	13.65	22.95	89.60	335	1441_QB	Eli Manning                   	$21	16.65	37.30	20.90	25.45	100.30	491	2781_QB	Tony Romo                     	$20	32.55	16.45	12.15	11.35	72.50	466	1941_QB	Matt Ryan                     	$19	41.45	24.85	30.15	34.45	130.90	4640	28881_QB	Ben Roethlisberger            	$18	22.65	25.75	44.00	0.00	92.40	322	1841_QB	Peyton Manning                	$18	24.95	11.95	28.50	34.80	100.20	1317	7211_QB	Jay Cutler                    	$17	26.25	5.50	8.95	25.75	66.45	1263	6541_QB	Robert Griffin III            	$17	32.20	34.50	31.55	26.45	124.70	1424	7331_QB	Josh Freeman                  	$16	14.20	20.15	9.60	19.75	63.70	243	1041_QB	Carson Palmer                 	$15	20.85	23.35	26.95	10.10	81.25	263	1301_QB	Andy Dalton                   	$14	10.15	32.30	34.00	28.70	105.15	283	1341_QB	Matt Schaub                   	$13	19.10	9.45	36.50	21.90	86.95	2062	12141_QB	Alex Smith                    	$12	23.85	24.00	16.80	8.35	73.00	392	1871_QB	Andrew Luck                   	$11	16.35	25.30	30.65	0.00	72.30	3181	18351_QB	Joe Flacco                    	$11	26.85	15.60	35.40	28.20	106.05	2151	13551_QB	Ryan Fitzpatrick              	$11	22.55	24.30	29.40	34.90	111.15	746	4511_QB	Sam Bradford                  	$10	16.20	32.50	5.00	8.85	62.55	587	2711_QB	Christian Ponder              	$9	13.60	24.95	31.20	6.05	75.80	430	2381_QB	Jake Locker                   	$9	16.55	14.80	34.40	0.00	65.75	2230	13261_QB	Matt Cassel                   	$9	22.90	27.55	10.60	18.55	79.60	365	1891_QB	Brandon Weeden                	$8	0.40	28.70	13.85	14.00	56.95	165	661_QB	Matt Flynn                    	$8	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	106	401_QB	John Skelton                  	$7	5.65	0.00	0.00	0.00	5.65	452	2241_QB	Kevin Kolb                    	$7	9.20	21.00	24.70	30.20	85.10	23	111_QB	Mark Sanchez                  	$7	29.30	12.90	17.70	3.15	63.05	219	1091_QB	Blaine Gabbert                	$6	25.60	9.15	14.85	15.20	64.80	499	2881_QB	David Garrard                 	$6	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	11	21_QB	Matt Moore                    	$6	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	5	21_QB	Tim Tebow                     	$6	1.10	2.20	0.00	0.45	3.75	517	2731_QB	Chad Henne                    	$5	0.00	1.15	0.00	0.00	1.15	5	21_QB	Ryan Tannehill                	$4	4.85	23.40	8.10	23.55	59.90	1416	8351_QB	Matt Hasselbeck               	$3	2.15	0.00	0.00	17.95	20.10	102	541_QB	Tarvaris Jackson              	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	24	122_RB	Arian Foster                  	$34	20.50	26.70	17.80	16.40	81.40	2023	12282_RB	Ray Rice                      	$33	24.30	21.20	26.00	17.60	89.10	2421	16152_RB	LeSean McCoy                  	$32	19.60	16.90	10.80	17.00	64.30	1996	10792_RB	Ryan Mathews                  	$30	0.00	0.00	12.60	10.20	22.80	81	252_RB	Trent Richardson              	$28	5.40	30.50	17.10	20.40	73.40	114	562_RB	Chris Johnson                 	$27	11.10	4.80	3.90	17.70	37.50	1636	7632_RB	Matt Forte                    	$27	21.00	12.00	0.00	5.90	38.90	777	3172_RB	Darren McFadden               	$26	24.80	6.10	19.50	4.80	55.20	3291	16852_RB	Maurice Jones-Drew            	$25	12.50	15.70	27.30	13.00	68.50	308	1982_RB	DeMarco Murray                	$24	16.00	11.50	14.50	15.10	57.10	1665	8932_RB	Jamaal Charles                	$24	8.70	5.20	40.80	26.50	81.20	651	4132_RB	Darren Sproles                	$23	14.50	25.80	6.20	17.40	63.90	1278	7702_RB	Steven Jackson       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	$17	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	30	82_RB	Roy Helu                      	$17	5.70	1.00	5.00	0.00	11.70	145	442_RB	Jonathan Stewart              	$16	0.00	13.80	0.00	5.80	19.60	194	772_RB	Stevan Ridley                 	$16	23.20	12.50	3.70	22.60	62.00	1382	8402_RB	Willis McGahee                	$16	6.40	26.40	5.20	25.50	63.50	1378	9912_RB	C.J. 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Green                    	$22	12.00	18.80	34.40	23.70	88.90	1271	9243_WR	Brandon Marshall              	$22	26.90	4.40	12.10	26.80	70.20	2361	13493_WR	Demaryius Thomas              	$22	22.00	21.80	6.40	15.30	65.50	205	783_WR	Victor Cruz                   	$22	11.80	34.90	10.20	25.90	82.80	1053	6423_WR	Greg Jennings                 	$21	8.40	0.00	9.50	7.90	25.80	722	2803_WR	Hakeem Nicks                  	$21	7.80	35.90	0.00	0.00	43.70	436	1943_WR	Jordy Nelson                  	$20	11.40	14.40	3.90	23.30	53.00	2134	11973_WR	Miles Austin                  	$20	17.30	17.30	15.70	15.70	66.00	129	623_WR	Percy Harvin                  	$20	16.40	23.70	18.80	6.40	65.30	1703	10353_WR	Steve Smith                   	$20	17.60	13.40	12.60	9.20	52.80	352	1543_WR	Marques Colston               	$19	11.10	7.90	7.00	30.30	56.30	643	3303_WR	Vincent Jackson               	$19	8.70	23.80	3.90	22.00	58.40	298	1463_WR	Brandon Lloyd                 	$18	11.90	14.00	19.80	14.00	59.70	2356	13793_WR	Denarius Moore                	$18	0.00	9.70	15.50	11.10	36.30	123	493_WR	DeSean Jackson                	$18	12.20	18.40	7.30	21.90	59.80	597	3363_WR	Dez Bryant                    	$18	12.50	4.70	12.20	18.50	47.90	1621	8163_WR	Steve Johnson                 	$18	15.50	13.60	19.10	4.30	52.50	699	3563_WR	Antonio Brown                 	$17	11.80	15.80	21.70	0.00	49.30	2735	16743_WR	Dwayne Bowe                   	$17	8.30	30.20	14.90	23.80	77.20	704	4923_WR	Eric Decker                   	$17	10.40	9.30	21.60	20.90	62.20	3652	23843_WR	Jeremy Maclin                 	$17	22.60	9.30	0.00	1.70	33.60	778	3153_WR	Darrius Heyward-Bey           	$16	7.30	8.10	9.40	0.00	24.80	267	933_WR	Mike Wallace                  	$16	13.70	18.40	26.40	0.00	58.50	1629	10133_WR	Torrey Smith                  	$16	9.00	7.10	30.70	21.70	68.50	2564	17943_WR	Reggie Wayne                  	$15	22.50	19.10	16.80	0.00	58.40	1306	7853_WR	Santonio Holmes               	$15	10.80	11.80	23.70	6.90	53.20	63	253_WR	Pierre Garcon                 	$14	20.90	0.00	0.00	3.00	23.90	1840	8973_WR	Sidney Rice                   	$14	13.60	6.30	3.20	8.10	31.20	203	883_WR	Kenny Britt                   	$13	0.00	1.50	11.50	0.00	13.00	2376	12343_WR	Malcom Floyd                  	$13	16.60	16.90	8.20	4.30	46.00	710	3633_WR	Robert Meachem                	$13	6.90	0.00	8.30	0.00	15.20	193	713_WR	Anquan Boldin                 	$12	16.60	2.70	8.80	22.10	50.20	406	2023_WR	Greg Little                   	$12	0.00	16.70	3.70	11.50	31.90	530	2833_WR	Nate Washington               	$12	13.30	4.00	20.20	7.30	44.80	540	3103_WR	Lance Moore                   	$11	24.00	5.00	17.00	13.70	59.70	709	4393_WR	Michael Crabtree              	$11	14.60	12.70	10.00	3.50	40.80	579	2893_WR	Mike Williams                 	$11	9.20	14.90	5.30	15.50	44.90	279	1413_WR	Brandon LaFell                	$10	15.50	17.50	3.70	0.00	36.70	751	4183_WR	Randy Moss                    	$10	14.70	2.40	5.70	0.00	22.80	814	3303_WR	Titus Young                   	$10	3.50	2.10	19.50	3.20	28.30	2548	14463_WR	Austin Collie                 	$9	0.00	0.00	1.60	0.00	1.60	597	2853_WR	Randall Cobb                  	$9	16.70	5.80	2.90	13.60	39.00	935	4793_WR	Doug Baldwin                  	$8	2.50	1.80	0.00	2.00	6.30	288	1273_WR	Nate Burleson                 	$8	13.50	2.60	23.60	10.90	50.60	250	1313_WR	Santana Moss                  	$8	7.70	4.40	7.30	6.30	25.70	549	2593_WR	Emmanuel Sanders              	$7	9.50	6.30	6.30	0.00	22.10	247	1193_WR	Golden Tate                   	$7	0.00	6.80	21.80	1.70	30.30	90	453_WR	Jerome Simpson                	$7	0.00	0.00	0.00	9.00	9.00	539	3033_WR	Justin Blackmon               	$7	5.40	0.00	1.70	10.80	17.90	3743	22813_WR	Alshon Jeffery                	$6	17.00	1.70	9.50	6.20	34.40	973	5473_WR	Brian Hartline                	$6	8.00	20.10	5.10	43.30	76.50	68	443_WR	Brian Quick                   	$6	0.00	0.00	0.00	2.90	2.90	171	693_WR	Danny Amendola                	$6	12.20	37.00	11.60	18.10	78.90	2701	21063_WR	David Nelson                  	$6	5.10	0.00	0.00	0.00	5.10	342	1633_WR	Davone Bess                   	$6	9.50	7.30	13.60	19.30	49.70	848	5963_WR	Kendall Wright                	$6	8.70	10.40	11.10	14.60	44.80	1297	8273_WR	Laurent Robinson              	$6	11.60	7.90	0.00	2.90	22.40	281	1393_WR	Michael Floyd                 	$6	0.00	0.00	7.80	7.50	15.30	294	1303_WR	Stephen Hill                  	$6	25.90	0.00	0.00	0.00	25.90	115	473_WR	Vincent Brown                 	$6	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	298	1213_WR	Andre Caldwell                	$5	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.40	1.40	62	343_WR	Donnie Avery                  	$5	12.70	20.80	4.80	0.00	38.30	95	593_WR	Earl Bennett                  	$5	8.00	4.10	2.10	0.00	14.20	230	1143_WR	Jacoby Ford                   	$5	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	217	963_WR	Jason Avant                   	$5	6.70	5.30	6.80	5.00	23.80	117	563_WR	Steve Breaston                	$5	5.00	0.00	1.20	2.20	8.40	117	533_WR	Steve Smith                   	$5	2.60	6.90	2.50	0.00	12.00	1208	6743_WR	Chad Johnson                  	$4	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	23	83_WR	Devery Henderson              	$4	2.10	0.00	9.30	2.00	13.40	1202	7553_WR	Donald Jones                  	$4	15.10	0.90	9.20	17.00	42.20	129	853_WR	Jonathan Baldwin              	$4	0.00	9.20	6.60	9.00	24.80	1296	7593_WR	Kevin Walter                  	$4	3.60	6.40	16.30	1.80	28.10	306	1873_WR	Leonard Hankerson             	$4	0.00	14.80	9.60	12.70	37.10	361	2483_WR	Mario Manningham              	$4	6.90	8.70	10.60	10.50	36.70	776	4283_WR	Mohamed Sanu                  	$4	0.00	0.00	9.65	0.00	9.65	165	973_WR	Rueben Randle                 	$4	0.00	0.00	1.40	0.00	1.40	258	1283_WR	Andre Roberts                 	$3	17.90	7.20	8.50	29.80	63.40	267	1903_WR	Armon Binns                   	$3	6.80	11.60	15.30	0.00	33.70	54	393_WR	Arrelious Benn                	$3	0.00	0.00	1.80	5.30	7.10	80	453_WR	Ben Obomanu                   	$3	0.00	0.00	1.80	0.00	1.80	36	163_WR	Cecil Shorts                  	$3	17.40	0.00	14.60	1.80	33.80	5	43_WR	Chaz Schilens                 	$3	1.80	0.00	3.60	7.50	12.90	15	93_WR	Chris Givens                  	$3	0.00	0.00	2.90	6.20	9.10	30	113_WR	Danario Alexander             	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	23	123_WR	David Gettis                  	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	44	163_WR	Deion Branch                  	$3	0.00	0.00	3.10	0.00	3.10	107	493_WR	Devin Hester                  	$3	4.30	0.00	0.80	12.80	17.90	473	2813_WR	Early Doucet                  	$3	6.70	5.10	0.00	7.10	18.90	113	553_WR	Harry Douglas                 	$3	6.20	5.70	3.30	1.60	16.80	484	3093_WR	James Jones                   	$3	18.10	1.90	10.50	22.60	53.10	1320	8833_WR	Jeremy Kerley                 	$3	14.50	8.70	15.30	3.20	41.70	28	113_WR	Jerrel Jernigan               	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	11	63_WR	Jerricho Cotchery             	$3	0.00	1.60	1.90	0.00	3.50	60	283_WR	Jordan Shipley                	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	65	293_WR	Joseph Morgan                 	$3	0.00	1.50	0.00	15.00	16.50	40	213_WR	Josh Cribbs                   	$3	0.00	1.40	3.40	3.10	7.90	115	593_WR	Josh Gordon                   	$3	5.20	1.50	7.00	2.60	16.30	650	3833_WR	Josh Morgan                   	$3	3.10	10.00	4.20	10.20	27.50	133	783_WR	Juron Criner                  	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	4.90	4.90	141	723_WR	Kevin Ogletree                	$3	31.40	4.10	10.70	5.80	52.00	387	2343_WR	Legedu Naanee                 	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	2.90	2.90	165	903_WR	Lestar Jean                   	$3	1.90	0.00	5.60	0.00	7.50	381	2173_WR	Michael Jenkins               	$3	7.50	9.30	1.80	1.40	20.00	27	113_WR	Mohamed Massaquoi             	$3	7.10	14.00	2.40	0.00	23.50	138	833_WR	Preston Parker                	$3	0.00	0.70	0.00	0.00	0.70	21	123_WR	Riley Cooper                  	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	20	73_WR	A.J. Jenkins                  	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	48	203_WR	Brad Smith                    	$2	0.00	3.10	0.60	12.90	16.60	47	233_WR	Clyde Gates                   	$2	0.00	2.00	0.00	0.00	2.00	21	93_WR	Damian Williams               	$2	8.30	8.50	4.00	1.60	22.40	134	773_WR	Danny Coale                   	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	31	153_WR	Devin Aromashodu              	$2	9.10	2.90	4.40	0.00	16.40	87	463_WR	Donald Driver                 	$2	0.00	9.60	0.00	1.30	10.90	831	4593_WR	Eddie Royal                   	$2	3.60	3.80	3.70	10.60	21.70	1493	9253_WR	Jacoby Jones                  	$2	7.60	9.10	11.60	3.70	32.00	140	893_WR	Jason Hill                    	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	47	203_WR	Kyle Williams                 	$2	0.30	0.00	3.60	0.90	4.80	33	93_WR	Louis Murphy                  	$2	9.30	0.00	1.70	1.80	12.80	322	1873_WR	Mike Thomas                   	$2	-0.10	2.20	1.80	1.90	5.80	155	793_WR	Nick Toon                     	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	101	453_WR	Ryan Broyles                  	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	361	2144_TE	Jimmy Graham                  	$29	23.50	23.60	13.60	18.10	78.80	3111	20024_TE	Rob Gronkowski                	$28	21.00	22.50	5.10	23.90	72.50	871	4344_TE	Aaron Hernandez               	$23	21.40	0.00	0.00	0.00	21.40	1481	5904_TE	Jason Witten                  	$21	4.00	11.80	3.80	36.70	56.30	45	204_TE	Antonio Gates                 	$20	10.30	0.00	6.70	10.40	27.40	1852	9054_TE	Vernon Davis                  	$17	14.80	26.80	18.80	5.80	66.20	1086	6904_TE	Jermichael Finley             	$16	21.20	8.60	12.00	11.40	53.20	745	3424_TE	Brandon Pettigrew             	$15	15.20	12.30	18.10	17.20	62.80	1408	9014_TE	Fred Davis                    	$14	6.80	4.50	19.50	13.00	43.80	1241	6974_TE	Jacob Tamme                   	$13	17.80	4.30	7.60	11.30	41.00	1224	5584_TE	Jermaine Gresham              	$13	7.50	9.70	19.90	12.20	49.30	632	3974_TE	Tony Gonzalez                 	$13	18.80	23.50	28.60	12.60	83.50	786	5934_TE	Brent Celek                   	$12	12.50	27.70	6.60	11.70	58.50	776	4544_TE	Greg Olsen                    	$11	14.60	2.80	20.30	23.90	61.60	2072	14174_TE	Jared Cook                    	$11	12.40	6.80	19.70	8.10	47.00	879	5114_TE	Kyle Rudolph                  	$11	14.20	14.00	23.10	3.80	55.10	1368	8444_TE	Owen Daniels                  	$11	14.70	13.70	13.10	22.20	63.70	770	5014_TE	Coby Fleener                  	$10	17.20	4.60	0.00	0.00	21.80	742	3544_TE	Dustin Keller                 	$10	2.20	0.00	0.00	0.00	2.20	467	2174_TE	Lance Kendricks               	$9	4.60	5.50	6.30	5.20	21.60	366	1984_TE	Ed Dickson                    	$8	5.20	3.80	3.50	0.00	12.50	261	1364_TE	Tony Moeaki                   	$8	8.20	2.40	4.20	6.30	21.10	342	1594_TE	Dallas Clark                  	$7	4.80	9.30	1.50	6.00	21.60	372	1884_TE	Heath Miller                  	$7	17.00	12.40	30.00	0.00	59.40	606	3624_TE	Marcedes Lewis                	$7	18.70	0.00	2.30	13.70	34.70	210	1124_TE	Anthony Fasano                	$6	6.40	10.90	12.20	10.50	40.00	203	1124_TE	Kellen Winslow                	$6	0.00	0.00	2.70	0.00	2.70	207	894_TE	Scott Chandler                	$6	15.80	14.30	5.20	24.20	59.50	774	5384_TE	Zach Miller                   	$6	8.50	2.20	4.20	7.70	22.60	284	1414_TE	Dennis Pitta                  	$5	20.80	18.50	18.50	0.00	57.80	145	844_TE	Bear Pascoe                   	$4	2.10	0.00	0.00	8.10	10.20	47	244_TE	Ben Watson                    	$4	3.90	4.20	7.50	12.70	28.30	249	1344_TE	Joel Dreessen                 	$4	2.10	4.60	12.60	10.70	30.00	505	3214_TE	Kellen Davis                  	$4	0.00	9.60	5.00	10.70	25.30	387	2384_TE	Martellus Bennett             	$4	16.00	20.70	22.30	1.70	60.70	1242	9384_TE	Rob Housler                   	$4	0.00	2.20	4.80	7.80	14.80	161	814_TE	Tony Scheffler                	$4	10.50	2.80	0.00	3.10	16.40	274	1464_TE	Zach Miller                   	$4	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	53	244_TE	Evan Moore                    	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	78	394_TE	Todd Heap                     	$3	7.70	13.70	0.00	0.00	21.40	213	1064_TE	Brandon Myers                 	$2	14.00	17.60	11.50	3.70	46.80	33	244_TE	Chris Cooley                  	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	131	574_TE	David Ausberry                	$2	2.70	4.60	2.80	2.40	12.50	22	124_TE	Delanie Walker                	$2	0.00	2.20	1.60	6.10	9.90	82	394_TE	Dwayne Allen                  	$2	0.00	7.80	11.00	0.00	18.80	811	5184_TE	Jeff King                     	$2	3.80	0.00	3.00	5.20	12.00	28	154_TE	John Carlson                  	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.40	1.40	153	924_TE	Julius Thomas                 	$2	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	78	374_TE	Kevin Boss                    	$2	12.60	4.40	0.00	0.00	17.00	337	1804_TE	Leonard Pope                  	$2	0.00	2.20	0.00	0.00	2.20	27	64_TE	Randy McMichael               	$2	0.00	7.40	2.00	0.00	9.40	108	565_PK	David Akers                   	$6	19.00	12.00	7.00	13.00	51.00	941	4905_PK	Garrett Hartley               	$6	6.00	12.00	8.00	9.00	35.00	564	2355_PK	Sebastian Janikowski          	$6	9.00	7.00	13.00	7.00	36.00	458	2055_PK	Stephen Gostkowski            	$6	11.00	21.00	15.00	11.00	58.00	819	4085_PK	Dan Bailey                    	$5	7.00	1.00	11.00	5.00	24.00	376	1485_PK	Mason Crosby                  	$5	2.00	17.00	8.00	4.00	31.00	1429	7205_PK	Alex Henery                   	$4	7.00	6.00	9.00	16.00	38.00	893	4715_PK	Billy Cundiff                 	$4	22.00	4.00	8.00	8.00	42.00	159	665_PK	Jason Hanson                  	$4	13.00	20.00	21.00	10.00	64.00	2219	14705_PK	Matt Bryant                   	$4	20.00	12.00	3.00	17.00	52.00	1343	8045_PK	Nate Kaeding                  	$4	20.00	8.00	5.00	0.00	33.00	878	4315_PK	Randy Bullock                 	$4	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	340	1595_PK	Adam Vinatieri                	$3	3.00	16.00	6.00	0.00	25.00	832	4165_PK	Blair Walsh                   	$3	20.00	11.00	9.00	10.00	50.00	233	1305_PK	Connor Barth                  	$3	13.00	15.00	4.00	18.00	50.00	283	1915_PK	Dan Carpenter                 	$3	5.00	5.00	10.00	8.00	28.00	374	1705_PK	Greg Zuerlein                 	$3	15.00	15.00	11.00	21.00	62.00	648	4465_PK	Jay Feely                     	$3	9.00	11.00	11.00	8.00	39.00	185	945_PK	Josh Brown                    	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	44	195_PK	Josh Scobee                   	$3	11.00	1.00	14.00	4.00	30.00	248	1215_PK	Justin Medlock                	$3	4.00	5.00	1.00	4.00	14.00	477	2555_PK	Lawrence Tynes                	$3	5.00	17.00	24.00	5.00	51.00	1314	8745_PK	Matt Prater                   	$3	5.00	3.00	15.00	18.00	41.00	4989	31805_PK	Mike Nugent                   	$3	8.00	12.00	10.00	11.00	41.00	921	5715_PK	Neil Rackers                  	$3	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00	252	1165_PK	Phil Dawson                   	$3	14.00	12.00	2.00	19.00	47.00	261	1495_PK	Rian Lindell                  	$3	4.00	5.00	7.00	4.00	20.00	545	2805_PK	Rob Bironas                   	$3	7.00	4.00	16.00	2.00	29.00	2539	14385_PK	Robbie Gould                  	$3	12.00	6.00	15.00	12.00	45.00	2999	17875_PK	Ryan Succop                   	$3	7.00	6.00	26.00	2.00	41.00	237	1195_PK	Shaun Suisham                 	$3	8.00	13.00	8.00	0.00	29.00	736	4085_PK	Steve Hauschka                	$3	13.00	9.00	2.00	9.00	33.00	415	2256_TD	Detroit Lions                 	$6	3.00	5.00	4.00	2.00	14.00	464	2136_TD	Green Bay Packers             	$6	10.00	15.00	1.00	2.00	28.00	584	2896_TD	Philadelphia Eagles           	$6	10.00	6.00	3.00	2.00	21.00	1000	4526_TD	San Francisco 49ers           	$6	5.00	4.00	4.00	17.00	30.00	3198	17726_TD	Baltimore Ravens              	$5	14.00	10.00	2.00	11.00	37.00	1100	6206_TD	Buffalo Bills                 	$5	2.00	17.00	8.00	5.00	32.00	1609	9706_TD	Chicago Bears                 	$5	13.00	9.00	16.00	23.00	61.00	804	5186_TD	Dallas Cowboys                	$5	5.00	2.00	6.00	4.00	17.00	314	1326_TD	Houston Texans                	$5	11.00	5.00	5.00	22.00	43.00	1621	9886_TD	New England Patriots          	$5	12.00	5.00	2.00	15.00	34.00	982	5396_TD	New York Giants               	$5	4.00	6.00	12.00	2.00	24.00	763	4156_TD	Pittsburgh Steelers           	$5	4.00	4.00	3.00	0.00	11.00	835	4126_TD	Arizona Cardinals             	$4	7.00	6.00	17.00	12.00	42.00	300	1846_TD	Atlanta Falcons               	$4	9.00	11.00	9.00	5.00	34.00	491	2776_TD	Denver Broncos                	$4	13.00	1.00	7.00	3.00	24.00	1033	5916_TD	Minnesota Vikings             	$4	4.00	2.00	9.00	19.00	34.00	210	1186_TD	New York Jets                 	$4	20.00	3.00	10.00	2.00	35.00	2024	11456_TD	Oakland Raiders               	$4	1.00	1.00	5.00	2.00	9.00	252	1216_TD	San Diego Chargers            	$4	5.00	2.00	4.00	20.00	31.00	313	2016_TD	Seattle Seahawks              	$4	5.00	11.00	8.00	4.00	28.00	3222	20396_TD	Tampa Bay Buccaneers          	$4	7.00	12.00	10.00	2.00	31.00	117	606_TD	Tennessee Titans              	$4	1.00	6.00	21.00	0.00	28.00	166	1036_TD	Carolina Panthers             	$3	2.00	11.00	2.00	9.00	24.00	483	2846_TD	Cincinnati Bengals            	$3	3.00	10.00	8.00	10.00	31.00	1860	12256_TD	Cleveland Browns              	$3	18.00	8.00	3.00	6.00	35.00	233	1326_TD	Indianapolis Colts            	$3	10.00	6.00	1.00	0.00	17.00	196	936_TD	Jacksonville Jaguars          	$3	4.00	0.00	2.00	4.00	10.00	326	1556_TD	Kansas City Chiefs            	$3	1.00	0.00	8.00	5.00	14.00	1514	8966_TD	Miami Dolphins                	$3	8.00	2.00	5.00	12.00	27.00	314	1636_TD	New Orleans Saints            	$3	7.00	3.00	9.00	4.00	23.00	1387	7976_TD	St. Louis Rams                	$3	13.00	3.00	4.00	8.00	28.00	251	1316_TD	Washington Redskins           	$3	8.00	14.00	12.00	3.00	37.00	742	473
 
Ok so here are my numbers in regards to the "Bang for you Buck" question,

what I did was take the average score that counted for each position (note these are for teams that are alive as of now only, I'm too lazy to go back and add the ones that were eliminated back in) and come up with a Value above average for each player for each week. I then added them and divided by cost to get a value.

For example here is Matt Ryan,

Week 1 he scored 9.14 pts above the average starting QB, .58 points less in week2, 1.84 pts less in week3 and .14 less in week 4. Thats a total of 6.58 points average average at a cost of $19 makes him the "greatest value" at qb with .35 points per dollar spent.

For RB, WR and TE, I used the average flex score as the baseline.

Matt Ryan $19 9.14 (0.58) (1.84) (0.14) $0.35 Robert Griffin III $17 (0.11) 9.07 (0.44) (8.14) $0.02 Drew Brees $29 (1.36) (1.18) (4.09) 5.71 ($0.03)Tom Brady $30 (8.41) (5.73) (8.54) 6.81 ($0.53)Cam Newton $28 (14.76) 6.32 (19.29) 2.76 ($0.89)Aaron Rodgers $31 (4.46) (11.08) (19.14) 4.66 ($0.97)Eli Manning $21 (15.66) 11.87 (11.09) (9.14) ($1.14)Ryan Fitzpatrick $11 (9.76) (1.13) (2.59) 0.31 ($1.20)Peyton Manning $18 (7.36) (13.48) (3.49) 0.21 ($1.34)Andy Dalton $14 (22.16) 6.87 2.01 (5.89) ($1.37)Michael Vick $22 (9.26) 4.52 (18.34) (11.64) ($1.58)Joe Flacco $11 (5.46) (9.83) 3.41 (6.39) ($1.66)Matthew Stafford $26 (14.56) (8.93) (10.89) (11.24) ($1.75)Ben Roethlisberger $18 (9.66) 0.32 12.01 (34.59) ($1.77)Philip Rivers $23 (14.96) 5.67 (27.14) (14.14) ($2.20)Tony Romo $20 0.24 (8.98) (19.74) (23.24) ($2.59)Carson Palmer $15 (11.46) (2.08) (5.04) (24.49) ($2.87)Matt Schaub $13 (13.21) (15.98) 4.51 (12.69) ($2.87)Jay Cutler $17 (6.06) (19.93) (23.04) (8.84) ($3.40)Josh Freeman $16 (18.11) (5.28) (22.39) (14.84) ($3.79)Alex Smith $12 (8.46) (1.43) (15.19) (26.24) ($4.28)Andrew Luck $11 (15.96) (0.13) (1.34) (34.59) ($4.73)Matt Cassel $9 (9.41) 2.12 (21.39) (16.04) ($4.97)Christian Ponder $9 (18.71) (0.48) (0.79) (28.54) ($5.39)Sam Bradford $10 (16.11) 7.07 (26.99) (25.74) ($6.18)Jake Locker $9 (15.76) (10.63) 2.41 (34.59) ($6.51)Kevin Kolb $7 (32.31) (4.43) (7.29) (4.39) ($6.92)Brandon Weeden $8 (31.91) 3.27 (18.14) (20.59) ($8.42)Mark Sanchez $7 (3.01) (12.53) (14.29) (31.44) ($8.75)Blaine Gabbert $6 (6.71) (16.28) (17.14) (19.39) ($9.92)Matt Flynn $8 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($15.54)Ryan Tannehill $4 (27.46) (2.03) (23.89) (11.04) ($16.11)John Skelton $7 (26.66) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($16.95)Tim Tebow $6 (31.21) (23.23) (31.99) (34.14) ($20.10)David Garrard $6 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($20.72)Matt Moore $6 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($20.72)Chad Henne $5 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($24.86)Matt Hasselbeck $3 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (16.64) ($35.46)Tarvaris Jackson $3 (32.31) (25.43) (31.99) (34.59) ($41.44)C.J. Spiller $15 13.19 18.52 (0.97) (7.92) $1.52 Jamaal Charles $24 (5.51) (8.28) 26.03 12.78 $1.04 Ray Rice $33 10.09 7.72 11.23 3.88 $1.00 Arian Foster $34 6.29 13.22 3.03 2.68 $0.74 Trent Richardson $28 (8.81) 17.02 2.33 6.68 $0.61 Marshawn Lynch $19 (2.51) 4.72 (3.87) 11.78 $0.53 Reggie Bush $20 3.29 21.22 (7.57) (7.02) $0.50 Maurice Jones-Drew $25 (1.71) 2.22 12.53 (0.72) $0.49 Willis McGahee $16 (7.81) 12.92 (9.57) 11.78 $0.46 Stevan Ridley $16 8.99 (0.98) (11.07) 8.88 $0.36 Darren Sproles $23 0.29 12.32 (8.57) 3.68 $0.34 Adrian Peterson $21 7.49 (2.48) (2.07) 2.48 $0.26 LeSean McCoy $32 5.39 3.42 (3.97) 3.28 $0.25 Frank Gore $19 4.09 5.02 (6.57) 1.78 $0.23 DeMarco Murray $24 1.79 (1.98) (0.27) 1.38 $0.04 Michael Turner $18 (11.01) (2.28) 1.33 12.38 $0.02 Darren McFadden $26 10.59 (7.38) 4.73 (8.92) ($0.04)BenJarvus Green-Ellis $17 2.29 0.02 (4.97) (2.32) ($0.29)Doug Martin $21 1.59 (0.88) (5.37) (7.52) ($0.58)Matt Forte $27 6.79 (1.48) (14.77) (7.82) ($0.64)Chris Johnson $27 (3.11) (8.68) (10.87) 3.98 ($0.69)Ryan Mathews $30 (14.21) (13.48) (2.17) (3.52) ($1.11)Steven Jackson $22 (1.81) (7.68) (9.37) (6.02) ($1.13)Ahmad Bradshaw $21 3.09 (11.88) (14.77) (3.02) ($1.27)DeAngelo Williams $15 (12.81) (0.58) (5.47) (1.62) ($1.37)Shonn Greene $20 1.19 (11.18) (7.87) (10.32) ($1.41)Michael Bush $10 1.99 (8.08) 0.53 (9.02) ($1.46)Ben Tate $12 (8.41) 12.22 (12.17) (10.32) ($1.56)Donald Brown $19 (3.41) (8.98) (3.67) (13.72) ($1.57)Isaac Redman $18 (9.51) (2.58) (6.67) (13.72) ($1.80)Kevin Smith $12 10.89 (4.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($1.84)Pierre Thomas $10 (10.31) 4.82 (4.17) (10.42) ($2.01)Fred Jackson $21 (12.71) (13.48) (14.77) (2.82) ($2.08)Jonathan Stewart $16 (14.21) 0.32 (14.77) (7.92) ($2.29)Jacquizz Rodgers $10 (8.71) (13.18) 2.93 (3.92) ($2.29)Mikel Leshoure $9 (14.21) (13.48) 8.63 (3.42) ($2.50)Cedric Benson $3 (12.41) 2.12 1.63 0.88 ($2.59)Roy Helu $17 (8.51) (12.48) (9.77) (13.72) ($2.62)Peyton Hillis $14 (8.81) (2.38) (13.67) (13.72) ($2.76)Ryan Williams $12 (9.61) (9.18) (4.27) (10.12) ($2.77)Mark Ingram $14 (12.71) (2.18) (13.67) (11.72) ($2.88)Toby Gerhart $13 (10.61) (8.28) (7.67) (11.12) ($2.90)James Starks $17 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($3.30)Chris Wells $13 (12.81) (5.68) (12.97) (13.72) ($3.48)Jackie Battle $2 (14.21) 5.42 (9.27) 10.38 ($3.84)Ronnie Hillman $11 (14.21) (13.48) (12.97) (5.42) ($4.19)Daniel Thomas $8 (8.91) (13.48) 0.23 (11.72) ($4.24)Felix Jones $9 (14.21) (5.38) (10.07) (12.42) ($4.68)Marcel Reece $6 (10.21) (9.78) (8.07) (3.32) ($5.23)Rashad Jennings $9 (9.21) (13.48) (14.77) (11.72) ($5.46)Kendall Hunter $6 (10.11) (7.08) (13.57) (2.12) ($5.48)Mike Goodson $6 (12.91) 3.22 (14.67) (9.02) ($5.56)Danny Woodhead $5 (12.21) (9.48) (3.47) (3.42) ($5.72)David Wilson $9 (13.81) (12.88) (13.67) (13.72) ($6.01)Robert Turbin $6 (12.51) (7.58) (14.77) (5.92) ($6.80)LeGarrette Blount $6 (12.21) (13.48) (12.87) (6.02) ($7.43)Joe McKnight $7 (13.91) (12.28) (14.87) (13.72) ($7.83)Tim Hightower $7 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($8.03)Mike Tolbert $4 (10.21) (7.18) (5.67) (10.52) ($8.40)Dexter McCluster $3 (0.01) (6.28) (8.47) (11.12) ($8.63)Shane Vereen $6 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (12.22) ($9.11)Isaiah Pead $6 (14.21) (13.48) (13.37) (13.72) ($9.13)Alex Green $6 (14.21) (13.28) (14.77) (13.72) ($9.33)Jahvid Best $6 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($9.36)Bilal Powell $4 (10.61) (10.18) (5.87) (12.62) ($9.82)Jonathan Dwyer $4 (6.81) (8.48) (13.77) (13.72) ($10.70)Brandon Jacobs $5 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($11.24)LeRon McClain $4 (8.21) (11.58) (14.77) (12.52) ($11.77)Danny Ware $4 (12.81) (11.78) (12.47) (10.22) ($11.82)Lamar Miller $3 (14.21) (0.98) (9.97) (12.42) ($12.53)Javon Ringer $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (12.32) ($13.70)Evan Royster $3 (13.21) (10.38) (9.37) (8.82) ($13.93)Rashard Mendenhall $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($14.05)Dion Lewis $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($14.05)Delone Carter $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($14.05)Bernard Scott $4 (14.21) (13.48) (15.27) (13.72) ($14.17)James Casey $2 (11.01) (8.68) (10.67) 0.88 ($14.74)Bernard Pierce $3 (12.31) (13.08) (11.07) (8.92) ($15.13)LaRod Stephens-Howling $3 (6.41) (10.38) (16.17) (13.72) ($15.56)Ronnie Brown $2 (6.11) (6.08) (14.77) (5.72) ($16.34)Leon Washington $3 (13.71) (12.38) (13.67) (13.52) ($17.76)Montario Hardesty $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)LaMichael James $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Lance Ball $2 (12.81) (10.38) (11.97) (4.32) ($19.74)Jason Snelling $2 (13.71) (11.68) (12.27) (10.22) ($23.94)Brian Leonard $2 (13.71) (13.48) (12.97) (11.12) ($25.64)Justin Forsett $2 (14.21) (9.98) (14.77) (13.72) ($26.34)Taiwan Jones $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Deji Karim $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Danny Amendola $6 (2.01) 23.52 (3.17) 4.38 $3.79 Brian Hartline $6 (6.21) 6.62 (9.67) 29.58 $3.39 Andre Roberts $3 2.19 (6.28) (6.27) 16.08 $1.91 A.J. Green $22 (2.21) 5.32 19.63 9.98 $1.49 Roddy White $23 0.49 10.72 (4.27) 23.18 $1.31 Dwayne Bowe $17 (5.91) 16.72 0.13 10.08 $1.24 Victor Cruz $22 (2.41) 21.42 (4.57) 12.18 $1.21 Torrey Smith $16 (5.21) (6.38) 15.93 7.98 $0.77 Calvin Johnson $29 2.89 3.92 17.63 (3.32) $0.73 Brandon Marshall $22 12.69 (9.08) (2.67) 13.08 $0.64 Miles Austin $20 3.09 3.82 0.93 1.98 $0.49 Percy Harvin $20 2.19 10.22 4.03 (7.32) $0.46 Demaryius Thomas $22 7.79 8.32 (8.37) 1.58 $0.42 Eric Decker $17 (3.81) (4.18) 6.83 7.18 $0.35 Lance Moore $11 9.79 (8.48) 2.23 (0.02) $0.32 Wes Welker $23 (9.81) 1.02 7.43 8.18 $0.30 DeSean Jackson $18 (2.01) 4.92 (7.47) 8.18 $0.20 Brandon Lloyd $18 (2.31) 0.52 5.03 0.28 $0.20 Reggie Wayne $15 8.29 5.62 2.03 (13.72) $0.15 Mike Wallace $16 (0.51) 4.92 11.63 (13.72) $0.14 Vincent Jackson $19 (5.51) 10.32 (10.87) 8.28 $0.12 Larry Fitzgerald $25 (3.91) (12.08) 11.63 6.68 $0.09 Marques Colston $19 (3.11) (5.58) (7.77) 16.58 $0.01 Julio Jones $23 14.59 (7.98) 2.93 (9.72) ($0.01)Andre Johnson $24 11.69 (8.38) 0.43 (5.12) ($0.06)Jordy Nelson $20 (2.81) 0.92 (10.87) 9.58 ($0.16)Steve Smith $20 3.39 (0.08) (2.17) (4.52) ($0.17)Santonio Holmes $15 (3.41) (1.68) 8.93 (6.82) ($0.20)Steve Johnson $18 1.29 0.12 4.33 (9.42) ($0.20)Antonio Brown $17 (2.41) 2.32 6.93 (13.72) ($0.40)Dez Bryant $18 (1.71) (8.78) (2.57) 4.78 ($0.46)Anquan Boldin $12 2.39 (10.78) (5.97) 8.38 ($0.50)Hakeem Nicks $21 (6.41) 22.42 (14.77) (13.72) ($0.59)Nate Burleson $8 (0.71) (10.88) 8.83 (2.82) ($0.70)Malcom Floyd $13 2.39 3.42 (6.57) (9.42) ($0.78)Nate Washington $12 (0.91) (9.48) 5.43 (6.42) ($0.95)Mike Williams $11 (5.01) 1.42 (9.47) 1.78 ($1.03)James Jones $3 3.89 (11.58) (4.27) 8.88 ($1.03)Davone Bess $6 (4.71) (6.18) (1.17) 5.58 ($1.08)Denarius Moore $18 (14.21) (3.78) 0.73 (2.62) ($1.10)Jeremy Maclin $17 8.39 (4.18) (14.77) (12.02) ($1.33)Kevin Ogletree $3 17.19 (9.38) (4.07) (7.92) ($1.39)Michael Crabtree $11 0.39 (0.78) (4.77) (10.22) ($1.40)Sidney Rice $14 (0.61) (7.18) (11.57) (5.62) ($1.78)Kendall Wright $6 (5.51) (3.08) (3.67) 0.88 ($1.90)Greg Jennings $21 (5.81) (13.48) (14.77) (5.82) ($1.90)Randall Cobb $9 2.49 (7.68) (11.87) (0.12) ($1.91)Brandon LaFell $10 1.29 4.02 (11.07) (13.72) ($1.95)Darrius Heyward-Bey $16 (6.91) (5.38) (5.37) (13.72) ($1.96)Greg Little $12 (14.21) 3.22 (11.07) (2.22) ($2.02)Pierre Garcon $14 6.69 (13.48) (14.77) (10.72) ($2.31)Titus Young $10 (10.71) (11.38) 4.73 (10.52) ($2.79)Robert Meachem $13 (7.31) (13.48) (6.47) (13.72) ($3.15)Kenny Britt $13 (14.21) (11.98) (3.27) (13.72) ($3.32)Randy Moss $10 0.49 (11.08) (9.07) (13.72) ($3.34)Donald Jones $4 0.89 (12.58) (5.57) 3.28 ($3.50)Donnie Avery $5 (1.51) 7.32 (9.97) (13.72) ($3.58)Golden Tate $7 (14.21) (6.68) 7.03 (12.02) ($3.70)Leonard Hankerson $4 (14.21) 1.32 (5.17) (1.02) ($4.77)Jeremy Kerley $3 0.29 (4.78) 0.53 (10.52) ($4.83)Emmanuel Sanders $7 (4.71) (7.18) (8.47) (13.72) ($4.87)Stephen Hill $6 11.69 (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($5.05)Justin Blackmon $7 (8.81) (13.48) (13.07) (2.92) ($5.47)Mario Manningham $4 (7.31) (7.68) (4.17) (3.22) ($5.60)Laurent Robinson $6 (2.61) (5.58) (14.77) (10.82) ($5.63)Santana Moss $8 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (7.42) ($6.24)Doug Baldwin $8 (11.71) (11.68) (14.77) (11.72) ($6.24)Austin Collie $9 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($6.24)Jason Avant $5 (7.51) (8.18) (7.97) (8.72) ($6.48)Jerome Simpson $7 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (4.72) ($6.74)Michael Floyd $6 (14.21) (13.48) (6.97) (6.22) ($6.81)Kevin Walter $4 (10.61) (7.08) 1.53 (11.92) ($7.02)Cecil Shorts $3 3.19 (13.48) (0.17) (11.92) ($7.46)Armon Binns $3 (7.41) (1.88) 0.53 (13.72) ($7.49)Jonathan Baldwin $4 (14.21) (4.28) (8.17) (4.72) ($7.85)Alshon Jeffery $6 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (7.52) ($8.33)Earl Bennett $5 (6.21) (9.38) (12.67) (13.72) ($8.40)David Nelson $6 (9.11) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($8.51)Steve Smith $5 (11.61) (6.58) (12.27) (13.72) ($8.84)Brian Quick $6 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (10.82) ($8.88)Vincent Brown $6 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($9.36)Steve Breaston $5 (9.21) (13.48) (13.57) (11.52) ($9.56)Devery Henderson $4 (12.11) (13.48) (5.47) (11.72) ($10.70)Mohamed Massaquoi $3 (7.11) 0.52 (12.37) (13.72) ($10.89)Andre Caldwell $5 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (12.32) ($10.96)Jacoby Ford $5 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($11.24)Mohamed Sanu $4 (14.21) (13.48) (5.12) (13.72) ($11.63)Michael Jenkins $3 (6.71) (4.18) (12.97) (12.32) ($12.06)Jacoby Jones $2 (6.61) (4.38) (3.17) (10.02) ($12.09)Early Doucet $3 (7.51) (8.38) (14.77) (6.62) ($12.43)Devin Hester $3 (9.91) (13.48) (13.97) (0.92) ($12.76)Harry Douglas $3 (8.01) (7.78) (11.47) (12.12) ($13.13)Josh Gordon $3 (9.01) (11.98) (7.77) (11.12) ($13.29)Rueben Randle $4 (14.21) (13.48) (13.37) (13.72) ($13.70)Joseph Morgan $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) 1.28 ($13.73)Josh Morgan $3 (14.21) (13.48) (10.57) (3.52) ($13.93)Chad Johnson $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($14.05)Chaz Schilens $3 (12.41) (13.48) (11.17) (6.22) ($14.43)Chris Givens $3 (14.21) (13.48) (11.87) (7.52) ($15.69)Josh Cribbs $3 (14.21) (12.08) (11.37) (10.62) ($16.09)Lestar Jean $3 (12.31) (13.48) (9.17) (13.72) ($16.23)Arrelious Benn $3 (14.21) (13.48) (12.97) (8.42) ($16.36)Damian Williams $2 (5.91) (4.98) (10.77) (12.12) ($16.89)Juron Criner $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (8.82) ($17.09)Eddie Royal $2 (10.61) (9.68) (11.07) (3.12) ($17.24)Jerricho Cotchery $3 (14.21) (11.88) (12.87) (13.72) ($17.56)Deion Branch $3 (14.21) (13.48) (11.67) (13.72) ($17.69)Legedu Naanee $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (10.82) ($17.76)Preston Parker $3 (14.21) (12.78) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.49)Jordan Shipley $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)David Gettis $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Ben Obomanu $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Danario Alexander $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Riley Cooper $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Jerrel Jernigan $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Brad Smith $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.17) (0.82) ($21.34)Louis Murphy $2 (4.91) (13.48) (13.07) (11.92) ($21.69)Donald Driver $2 (14.21) (3.88) (14.77) (12.42) ($22.64)Mike Thomas $2 (14.31) (11.28) (12.97) (11.82) ($25.19)Devin Aromashodu $2 (14.21) (13.48) (10.37) (13.72) ($25.89)Kyle Williams $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (12.82) ($27.64)Ryan Broyles $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Nick Toon $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)A.J. Jenkins $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Jason Hill $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Danny Coale $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Clyde Gates $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Tony Gonzalez $13 4.59 10.02 13.83 (1.12) $2.10 Martellus Bennett $4 1.79 7.22 7.53 (12.02) $1.13 Owen Daniels $11 0.49 0.22 (1.67) 8.48 $0.68 Vernon Davis $17 0.59 13.32 4.03 (7.92) $0.59 Rob Gronkowski $28 6.79 9.02 (9.67) 10.18 $0.58 Jimmy Graham $29 3.29 10.12 (1.17) 4.38 $0.57 Scott Chandler $6 1.59 0.82 (9.57) 10.48 $0.55 Greg Olsen $11 0.39 (10.68) 5.53 10.18 $0.49 Heath Miller $7 2.79 (1.08) 15.23 (13.72) $0.46 Brandon Pettigrew $15 0.99 (1.18) 3.33 3.48 $0.44 Dennis Pitta $5 6.59 5.02 3.73 (13.72) $0.32 Brent Celek $12 (1.71) 14.22 (8.17) (2.02) $0.19 Jason Witten $21 (10.21) (1.68) (10.97) 22.98 $0.01 Kyle Rudolph $11 (0.01) 0.52 8.33 (9.92) ($0.10)Jermichael Finley $16 6.99 (4.88) (2.77) (2.32) ($0.19)Jermaine Gresham $13 (6.71) (3.78) 5.13 (1.52) ($0.53)Jared Cook $11 (1.81) (6.68) 4.93 (5.62) ($0.83)Fred Davis $14 (7.41) (9.08) 4.73 (0.72) ($0.89)Jacob Tamme $13 3.59 (9.18) (7.17) (2.42) ($1.17)Antonio Gates $20 (3.91) (13.48) (8.07) (3.32) ($1.44)Aaron Hernandez $23 7.19 (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($1.51)Anthony Fasano $6 (7.81) (2.58) (2.57) (3.22) ($2.70)Marcedes Lewis $7 4.49 (13.48) (12.47) (0.02) ($3.07)Coby Fleener $10 2.99 (8.88) (14.77) (13.72) ($3.44)Lance Kendricks $9 (9.61) (7.98) (8.47) (8.52) ($3.84)Tony Moeaki $8 (6.01) (11.08) (10.57) (7.42) ($4.39)Brandon Myers $2 (0.21) 4.12 (3.27) (10.02) ($4.69)Dallas Clark $7 (9.41) (4.18) (13.27) (7.72) ($4.94)Dustin Keller $10 (12.01) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($5.40)Ed Dickson $8 (9.01) (9.68) (11.27) (13.72) ($5.46)Zach Miller $6 (5.71) (11.28) (10.57) (6.02) ($5.60)Joel Dreessen $4 (12.11) (8.88) (2.17) (3.02) ($6.55)Ben Watson $4 (10.31) (9.28) (7.27) (1.02) ($6.97)Kellen Davis $4 (14.21) (3.88) (9.77) (3.02) ($7.72)Kellen Winslow $6 (14.21) (13.48) (12.07) (13.72) ($8.91)Tony Scheffler $4 (3.71) (10.68) (14.77) (10.62) ($9.95)Rob Housler $4 (14.21) (11.28) (9.97) (5.92) ($10.35)Bear Pascoe $4 (12.11) (13.48) (14.77) (5.62) ($11.50)Todd Heap $3 (6.51) 0.22 (14.77) (13.72) ($11.59)Zach Miller $4 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($14.05)Dwayne Allen $2 (14.21) (5.68) (3.77) (13.72) ($18.69)Evan Moore $3 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($18.73)Kevin Boss $2 (1.61) (9.08) (14.77) (13.72) ($19.59)David Ausberry $2 (11.51) (8.88) (11.97) (11.32) ($21.84)Jeff King $2 (10.41) (13.48) (11.77) (8.52) ($22.09)Delanie Walker $2 (14.21) (11.28) (13.17) (7.62) ($23.14)Randy McMichael $2 (14.21) (6.08) (12.77) (13.72) ($23.39)Leonard Pope $2 (14.21) (11.28) (14.77) (13.72) ($26.99)John Carlson $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (12.32) ($27.39)Chris Cooley $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Julius Thomas $2 (14.21) (13.48) (14.77) (13.72) ($28.09)Jason Hanson $4 0.47 6.54 4.60 (4.81) $1.70 Greg Zuerlein $3 2.47 1.54 (5.40) 6.19 $1.60 Stephen Gostkowski $6 (1.53) 7.54 (1.40) (3.81) $0.13 David Akers $6 6.47 (1.46) (9.40) (1.81) ($1.03)Matt Bryant $4 7.47 (1.46) (13.40) 2.19 ($1.30)Lawrence Tynes $3 (7.53) 3.54 7.60 (9.81) ($2.07)Connor Barth $3 0.47 1.54 (12.40) 3.19 ($2.40)Blair Walsh $3 7.47 (2.46) (7.40) (4.81) ($2.40)Phil Dawson $3 1.47 (1.46) (14.40) 4.19 ($3.40)Sebastian Janikowski $6 (3.53) (6.46) (3.40) (7.81) ($3.53)Garrett Hartley $6 (6.53) (1.46) (8.40) (5.81) ($3.70)Billy Cundiff $4 8.47 (9.46) (8.40) (6.81) ($4.05)Robbie Gould $3 (0.53) (7.46) (1.40) (2.81) ($4.07)Alex Henery $4 (5.53) (7.46) (7.40) 1.19 ($4.80)Mason Crosby $5 (10.53) 3.54 (8.40) (10.81) ($5.24)Matt Prater $3 (7.53) (10.46) (1.40) 3.19 ($5.40)Mike Nugent $3 (4.53) (1.46) (6.40) (3.81) ($5.40)Ryan Succop $3 (5.53) (7.46) 9.60 (12.81) ($5.40)Nate Kaeding $4 7.47 (5.46) (11.40) (14.81) ($6.05)Jay Feely $3 (3.53) (2.46) (5.40) (6.81) ($6.07)Dan Bailey $5 (5.53) (12.46) (5.40) (9.81) ($6.64)Steve Hauschka $3 0.47 (4.46) (14.40) (5.81) ($8.07)Rob Bironas $3 (5.53) (9.46) (0.40) (12.81) ($9.40)Shaun Suisham $3 (4.53) (0.46) (8.40) (14.81) ($9.40)Dan Carpenter $3 (7.53) (8.46) (6.40) (6.81) ($9.73)Josh Scobee $3 (0.53) (12.46) (5.40) (10.81) ($9.73)Adam Vinatieri $3 (9.53) 2.54 (10.40) (14.81) ($10.73)Rian Lindell $3 (8.53) (8.46) (9.40) (10.81) ($12.40)Randy Bullock $4 (12.53) (13.46) (16.40) (14.81) ($14.30)Justin Medlock $3 (8.53) (8.46) (15.40) (10.81) ($14.40)Neil Rackers $3 (12.53) (13.46) (16.40) (14.81) ($19.07)Josh Brown $3 (12.53) (13.46) (16.40) (14.81) ($19.07)Chicago Bears $5 0.47 (1.04) 6.92 10.13 $3.30 Houston Texans $5 (1.53) (5.04) (4.08) 9.13 ($0.30)Arizona Cardinals $4 (5.53) (4.04) 7.92 (0.87) ($0.63)Baltimore Ravens $5 1.47 (0.04) (7.08) (1.87) ($1.50)New England Patriots $5 (0.53) (5.04) (7.08) 2.13 ($2.10)New York Jets $4 7.47 (7.04) 0.92 (10.87) ($2.38)San Francisco 49ers $6 (7.53) (6.04) (5.08) 4.13 ($2.42)Buffalo Bills $5 (10.53) 6.96 (1.08) (7.87) ($2.50)Atlanta Falcons $4 (3.53) 0.96 (0.08) (7.87) ($2.63)Minnesota Vikings $4 (8.53) (8.04) (0.08) 6.13 ($2.63)Washington Redskins $3 (6.53) 3.96 2.92 (9.87) ($3.17)Cleveland Browns $3 5.47 (2.04) (6.08) (6.87) ($3.17)San Diego Chargers $4 (7.53) (8.04) (5.08) 7.13 ($3.38)Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4 (5.53) 1.96 0.92 (10.87) ($3.38)Green Bay Packers $6 (8.53) 4.96 (8.08) (10.87) ($3.75)Philadelphia Eagles $6 (2.53) (4.04) (6.08) (10.87) ($3.92)New York Giants $5 (8.53) (4.04) 2.92 (10.87) ($4.10)Seattle Seahawks $4 (7.53) 0.96 (1.08) (8.87) ($4.13)Tennessee Titans $4 (11.53) (4.04) 11.92 (12.87) ($4.13)Cincinnati Bengals $3 (9.53) (0.04) (1.08) (2.87) ($4.51)Detroit Lions $6 (9.53) (5.04) (4.33) (10.87) ($4.96)Denver Broncos $4 0.47 (9.04) (2.08) (9.87) ($5.13)Miami Dolphins $3 (4.53) (8.04) (2.08) (0.87) ($5.17)Dallas Cowboys $5 (7.53) (8.04) (3.08) (8.87) ($5.50)St. Louis Rams $3 0.47 (7.04) (5.08) (4.87) ($5.51)Pittsburgh Steelers $5 (6.53) (6.04) (6.08) (12.87) ($6.30)Carolina Panthers $3 (10.53) 0.96 (7.08) (3.87) ($6.84)Oakland Raiders $4 (11.53) (9.04) (4.08) (10.87) ($8.88)Indianapolis Colts $3 (2.53) (4.04) (8.08) (12.87) ($9.17)New Orleans Saints $3 (11.53) (7.04) (0.08) (8.87) ($9.17)Kansas City Chiefs $3 (11.53) (10.04) (1.08) (7.87) ($10.17)Jacksonville Jaguars $3 (8.53) (10.04) (7.08) (8.87) ($11.51)
Top 5 Best buys at each position:

QB: Ryan, RGIII, Brees, Brady, Newton

RB: Spiller, Charles, Rice, Foster, Richardson

WR: Amendola, Hartline, Roberts, A.J. Green, White

TE: Gonzo, Bennett, Daniels, V.Davis, Gronkowksi

PK: Hanson, Zuerlein, Gostkowski, Akers, Bryant

Def: Bears, Texans, Cards, Ravens, Pats

Worst 5 at each position (i've excluded the players that have scored 0 points to date b/c they're obvious):

QB: Skelton, Tannehill, Gabbert, Sanchez, Weeden

RB: Forsett, Leonard, Snelling, Ball, Washington

WR: Kyle Williams, Aromashodu, Mike Thomas, Driver, Murphy

TE: Carlson, Pope, McMichael, Walker, King

PK: Medlock, Lindell, Vinatieri, Scobee, Carpenter

Def: Jaguars, Chiefs, Saints, Colts, Raiders

 
In another 'bang for your buck' analysis, this is a slight rearrangement of Ig's data to show theoretical dollar value gained/lost per player.

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POS	PLAYER	        PRICE	WEEK 1	WEEK 2	WEEK 3	WEEK 4	TOTAL	ALL	ALIVE	DIFF1_QB	Matt Ryan	$19 	41.45	24.85	30.15	34.45	130.9	4640	2888	$12 1_QB	Robert Griffin I$17 	32.2	34.5	31.55	26.45	124.7	1424	733	$13 1_QB	Drew Brees	$29 	30.95	24.25	27.9	40.3	123.4	1024	605	$0 1_QB	Ryan Fitzpatrick$11 	22.55	24.3	29.4	34.9	111.15	746	451	$17 1_QB	Tom Brady	$30 	23.9	19.7	23.45	41.4	108.45	1186	628	($4)1_QB	Joe Flacco	$11 	26.85	15.6	35.4	28.2	106.05	2151	1355	$12 1_QB	Andy Dalton	$14 	10.15	32.3	34	28.7	105.15	283	134	$8 1_QB	Eli Manning	$21 	16.65	37.3	20.9	25.45	100.3	491	278	$0 1_QB	Peyton Manning	$18 	24.95	11.95	28.5	34.8	100.2	1317	721	$2 1_QB	Cam Newton	$28 	17.55	31.75	12.7	37.35	99.35	430	197	($9)1_QB	Ben Roethlisberg$18 	22.65	25.75	44	0	92.4	322	184	$0 1_QB	Aaron Rodgers	$31 	27.85	14.35	12.85	39.25	94.3	2559	1349	($13)1_QB	Matt Schaub	$13 	19.1	9.45	36.5	21.9	86.95	2062	1214	$4 1_QB	Michael Vick	$22 	23.05	29.95	13.65	22.95	89.6	335	144	($5)1_QB	Kevin Kolb	$7 	9.2	21	24.7	30.2	85.1	23	11	$9 1_QB	Carson Palmer	$15 	20.85	23.35	26.95	10.1	81.25	263	130	$0 1_QB	Matt Cassel	$9 	22.9	27.55	10.6	18.55	79.6	365	189	$5 1_QB	Matthew Stafford$26 	18.05	16.5	21.1	23.35	79	1625	756	($13)1_QB	Christian Ponder$9 	13.6	24.95	31.2	6.05	75.8	430	238	$3 1_QB	Alex Smith	$12 	23.85	24	16.8	8.35	73	392	187	($1)1_QB	Tony Romo	$20 	32.55	16.45	12.15	11.35	72.5	466	194	($9)1_QB	Philip Rivers	$23 	17.35	31.1	4.85	20.45	73.75	97	45	($12)1_QB	Andrew Luck	$11 	16.35	25.3	30.65	0	72.3	3181	1835	($1)1_QB	Blaine Gabbert	$6 	25.6	9.15	14.85	15.2	64.8	499	288	$3 1_QB	Jake Locker	$9 	16.55	14.8	34.4	0	65.75	2230	1326	$0 1_QB	Jay Cutler	$17 	26.25	5.5	8.95	25.75	66.45	1263	654	($8)1_QB	Mark Sanchez	$7 	29.3	12.9	17.7	3.15	63.05	219	109	$1 1_QB	Josh Freeman	$16 	14.2	20.15	9.6	19.75	63.7	243	104	($8)1_QB	Ryan Tannehill	$4 	4.85	23.4	8.1	23.55	59.9	1416	835	$3 1_QB	Brandon Weeden	$8 	0.4	28.7	13.85	14	56.95	165	66	($1)1_QB	Sam Bradford	$10 	16.2	32.5	5	8.85	62.55	587	271	($3)1_QB	Matt Hasselbeck	$3 	2.15	0	0	17.95	20.1	102	54	$3 1_QB	Chad Henne	$5 	0	1.15	0	0	1.15	5	2	$1 1_QB	Tim Tebow	$6 	1.1	2.2	0	0.45	3.75	517	273	$0 1_QB	John Skelton	$7 	5.65	0	0	0	5.65	452	224	($1)1_QB	Matt Flynn	$8 	0	0	0	0	0	106	40	($3)1_QB	David Garrard	$6 	0	0	0	0	0	11	2	($2)1_QB	Tarvaris Jackson$3 	0	0	0	0	0	24	12	$0 1_QB	Matt Moore	$6 	0	0	0	0	0	5	2	($3)2_RB	Ray Rice	$33 	24.3	21.2	26	17.6	89.1	2421	1615	$1 2_RB	Arian Foster	$34 	20.5	26.7	17.8	16.4	81.4	2023	1228	($1)2_RB	Jamaal Charles	$24 	8.7	5.2	40.8	26.5	81.2	651	413	$8 2_RB	C.J. Spiller	$15 	27.4	32	13.8	5.8	79	469	263	$15 2_RB	Trent Richardson$28 	5.4	30.5	17.1	20.4	73.4	114	56	$0 2_RB	Marshawn Lynch	$19 	11.7	18.2	10.9	25.5	66.3	2461	1673	$8 2_RB	Maurice Jones-Dr$25 	12.5	15.7	27.3	13	68.5	308	198	$2 2_RB	Reggie Bush	$20 	17.5	34.7	7.2	6.7	66.1	564	300	$6 2_RB	LeSean McCoy	$32 	19.6	16.9	10.8	17	64.3	1996	1079	($7)2_RB	Willis McGahee	$16 	6.4	26.4	5.2	25.5	63.5	1378	991	$8 2_RB	Darren Sproles	$23 	14.5	25.8	6.2	17.4	63.9	1278	770	$1 2_RB	Stevan Ridley	$16 	23.2	12.5	3.7	22.6	62	1382	840	$7 2_RB	Adrian Peterson	$21 	21.7	11	12.7	16.2	61.6	1584	920	$1 2_RB	Michael Turner	$18 	3.2	11.2	16.1	26.1	56.6	545	342	$3 2_RB	Frank Gore	$19 	18.3	18.5	8.2	15.5	60.5	561	287	$2 2_RB	DeMarco Murray	$24 	16	11.5	14.5	15.1	57.1	1665	893	($3)2_RB	Darren McFadden	$26 	24.8	6.1	19.5	4.8	55.2	3291	1685	($5)2_RB	Jackie Battle	$2 	0	18.9	5.5	24.1	48.5	59	40	$18 2_RB	BenJarvus Green-$17 	16.5	13.5	9.8	11.4	51.2	923	506	$3 2_RB	Cedric Benson	$3 	1.8	15.6	16.4	14.6	48.4	6898	4675	$16 2_RB	Michael Bush	$10 	16.2	5.4	15.3	4.7	41.6	944	546	$9 2_RB	Doug Martin	$21 	15.8	12.6	9.4	6.2	44	2552	1348	($2)2_RB	Matt Forte	$27 	21	12	0	5.9	38.9	777	317	($9)2_RB	Chris Johnson	$27 	11.1	4.8	3.9	17.7	37.5	1636	763	($9)2_RB	Pierre Thomas	$10 	3.9	18.3	10.6	3.3	36.1	246	136	$7 2_RB	Ben Tate	$12 	5.8	25.7	2.6	3.4	37.5	990	564	$5 2_RB	DeAngelo William$15 	1.4	12.9	9.3	12.1	35.7	325	164	$2 2_RB	Mikel Leshoure	$9 	0	0	23.4	10.3	33.7	1175	729	$7 2_RB	Jacquizz Rodgers$10 	5.5	0.3	17.7	9.8	33.3	1422	832	$6 2_RB	Kevin Smith	$12 	25.1	9	0	0	34.1	1117	545	$4 2_RB	Dexter McCluster$3 	14.2	7.2	6.3	2.6	30.3	897	567	$12 2_RB	Steven Jackson	$22 	12.4	5.8	5.4	7.7	31.3	1151	536	($7)2_RB	Shonn Greene	$20 	15.4	2.3	6.9	3.4	28	120	48	($6)2_RB	Ahmad Bradshaw	$21 	17.3	1.6	0	10.7	29.6	387	167	($7)2_RB	Mike Tolbert	$4 	4	10.6	9.1	3.2	26.9	255	145	$9 2_RB	Danny Woodhead	$5 	2	4	11.3	10.3	27.6	193	88	$8 2_RB	James Casey	$2 	2.7	4.8	4.1	14.6	26.2	116	77	$10 2_RB	Marcel Reece	$6 	4	3.7	6.7	10.4	24.8	29	13	$6 2_RB	Donald Brown	$19 	10.8	4.5	11.1	0	26.4	598	279	($7)2_RB	Isaac Redman	$18 	4.7	10.9	8.1	0	23.7	162	66	($7)2_RB	Ronnie Brown	$2 	8.1	7.4	0	8	23.5	1295	795	$8 2_RB	Kendall Hunter	$6 	4.1	6.4	1.2	11.6	23.3	872	498	$4 2_RB	Ryan Williams	$12 	4.6	4.3	10.5	3.6	23	986	509	($2)2_RB	Mike Goodson	$6 	1.3	16.7	0.1	4.7	22.8	148	79	$3 2_RB	Daniel Thomas	$8 	5.3	0	15	2	22.3	216	122	$1 2_RB	Jonathan Stewart$16 	0	13.8	0	5.8	19.6	194	77	($7)2_RB	Ryan Mathews	$30 	0	0	12.6	10.2	22.8	81	25	($21)2_RB	Lamar Miller	$3 	0	12.5	4.8	1.3	18.6	104	50	$5 2_RB	Toby Gerhart	$13 	3.6	5.2	5.8	2.6	17.2	262	129	($6)2_RB	Peyton Hillis	$14 	5.4	11.1	1.1	0	17.6	2131	1146	($7)2_RB	Lance Ball	$2 	1.4	3.1	2.8	9.4	16.7	196	100	$4 2_RB	Evan Royster	$3 	1	3.1	5.4	4.9	14.4	2961	1888	$3 2_RB	Bilal Powell	$4 	3.6	3.3	8.9	1.1	16.9	705	381	$2 2_RB	Jonathan Dwyer	$4 	7.4	5	1	0	13.4	1637	990	$2 2_RB	Robert Turbin	$6 	1.7	5.9	0	7.8	15.4	658	378	$0 2_RB	Felix Jones	$9 	0	8.1	4.7	1.3	14.1	171	64	($3)2_RB	Mark Ingram	$14 	1.5	11.3	1.1	2	15.9	582	263	($8)2_RB	Roy Helu	$17 	5.7	1	5	0	11.7	145	44	($11)2_RB	Fred Jackson	$21 	1.5	0	0	10.9	12.4	1563	794	($15)2_RB	LeGarrette Bloun$6 	2	0	1.9	7.7	11.6	574	285	($1)2_RB	Chris Wells	$13 	1.4	7.8	1.8	0	11	183	68	($8)2_RB	Jason Snelling	$2 	0.5	1.8	2.5	3.5	8.3	167	83	$2 2_RB	Brian Leonard	$2 	0.5	0	1.8	2.6	4.9	68	37	$2 2_RB	Justin Forsett	$2 	0	3.5	0	0	3.5	77	37	$2 2_RB	Bernard Pierce	$3 	1.9	0.4	3.7	4.8	10.8	119	80	$1 2_RB	LaRod Stephens-H$3 	7.8	3.1	-1.4	0	9.5	40	23	$1 2_RB	Leon Washington	$3 	0.5	1.1	1.1	0.2	2.9	50	20	$1 2_RB	LeRon McClain	$4 	6	1.9	0	1.2	9.1	69	31	$0 2_RB	Danny Ware	$4 	1.4	1.7	2.3	3.5	8.9	40	24	$0 2_RB	Rashad Jennings	$9 	5	0	0	2	7	1423	765	($5)2_RB	Ronnie Hillman	$11 	0	0	1.8	8.3	10.1	260	119	($7)2_RB	Javon Ringer	$4 	0	0	0	1.4	1.4	162	80	($1)2_RB	Shane Vereen	$6 	0	0	0	1.5	1.5	416	212	($3)2_RB	Isaiah Pead	$6 	0	0	1.4	0	1.4	303	141	($3)2_RB	Alex Green	$6 	0	0.2	0	0	0.2	158	96	($3)2_RB	Jahvid Best	$6 	0	0	0	0	0	200	88	($3)2_RB	Joe McKnight	$7 	0.3	1.2	-0.1	0	1.4	23	8	($4)2_RB	Tim Hightower	$7 	0	0	0	0	0	104	42	($4)2_RB	David Wilson	$9 	0.4	0.6	1.1	0	2.1	2631	1514	($6)2_RB	James Starks	$17 	0	0	0	0	0	30	8	($14)2_RB	Deji Karim	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	20	9	$0 2_RB	Taiwan Jones	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	1716	1074	$0 2_RB	LaMichael James	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	83	45	($1)2_RB	Montario Hardest$3 	0	0	0	0	0	310	179	($1)2_RB	Delone Carter	$4 	0	0	0	0	0	71	32	($2)2_RB	Dion Lewis	$4 	0	0	0	0	0	98	52	($2)2_RB	Rashard Mendenha$4 	0	0	0	0	0	2426	1481	($2)2_RB	Bernard Scott	$4 	0	0	-0.5	0	-0.5	230	146	($2)2_RB	Brandon Jacobs	$5 	0	0	0	0	0	176	81	($3)3_WR	A.J. Green	$22 	12	18.8	34.4	23.7	88.9	1271	924	$7 3_WR	Roddy White	$23 	14.7	24.2	10.5	36.9	86.3	397	251	$2 3_WR	Victor Cruz	$22 	11.8	34.9	10.2	25.9	82.8	1053	642	$2 3_WR	Danny Amendola	$6 	12.2	37	11.6	18.1	78.9	2701	2106	$17 3_WR	Dwayne Bowe	$17 	8.3	30.2	14.9	23.8	77.2	704	492	$6 3_WR	Calvin Johnson	$29 	17.1	17.4	32.4	10.4	77.3	4016	2482	($6)3_WR	Brian Hartline	$6 	8	20.1	5.1	43.3	76.5	68	44	$16 3_WR	Torrey Smith	$16 	9	7.1	30.7	21.7	68.5	2564	1794	$6 3_WR	Miles Austin	$20 	17.3	17.3	15.7	15.7	66	129	62	$2 3_WR	Brandon Marshall$22 	26.9	4.4	12.1	26.8	70.2	2361	1349	$0 3_WR	Percy Harvin	$20 	16.4	23.7	18.8	6.4	65.3	1703	1035	$1 3_WR	Demaryius Thom###22 	22	21.8	6.4	15.3	65.5	205	78	($1)3_WR	Andre Roberts	$3 	17.9	7.2	8.5	29.8	63.4	267	190	$17 3_WR	Eric Decker	$17 	10.4	9.3	21.6	20.9	62.2	3652	2384	$3 3_WR	DeSean Jackson	$18 	12.2	18.4	7.3	21.9	59.8	597	336	$2 3_WR	Wes Welker	$23 	4.4	14.5	22.2	21.9	63	609	379	($3)3_WR	Lance Moore	$11 	24	5	17	13.7	59.7	709	439	$8 3_WR	Brandon Lloyd	$18 	11.9	14	19.8	14	59.7	2356	1379	$1 3_WR	Reggie Wayne	$15 	22.5	19.1	16.8	0	58.4	1306	785	$3 3_WR	Mike Wallace	$16 	13.7	18.4	26.4	0	58.5	1629	1013	$2 3_WR	Vincent Jackson	$19 	8.7	23.8	3.9	22	58.4	298	146	($1)3_WR	Marques Colston	$19 	11.1	7.9	7	30.3	56.3	643	330	($1)3_WR	Larry Fitzgerald$25 	10.3	1.4	26.4	20.4	58.5	225	138	($7)3_WR	James Jones	$3 	18.1	1.9	10.5	22.6	53.1	1320	883	$14 3_WR	Santonio Holmes	$15 	10.8	11.8	23.7	6.9	53.2	63	25	$2 3_WR	Julio Jones	$23 	28.8	5.5	17.7	4	56	3675	1799	($6)3_WR	Andre Johnson	$24 	25.9	5.1	15.2	8.6	54.8	454	170	($7)3_WR	Steve Johnson	$18 	15.5	13.6	19.1	4.3	52.5	699	356	($2)3_WR	Jordy Nelson	$20 	11.4	14.4	3.9	23.3	53	2134	1197	($4)3_WR	Steve Smith	$20 	17.6	13.4	12.6	9.2	52.8	352	154	($4)3_WR	Kevin Ogletree	$3 	31.4	4.1	10.7	5.8	52	387	234	$12 3_WR	Nate Burleson	$8 	13.5	2.6	23.6	10.9	50.6	250	131	$7 3_WR	Davone Bess	$6 	9.5	7.3	13.6	19.3	49.7	848	596	$8 3_WR	Anquan Boldin	$12 	16.6	2.7	8.8	22.1	50.2	406	202	$2 3_WR	Malcom Floyd	$13 	16.6	16.9	8.2	4.3	46	710	363	$0 3_WR	Antonio Brown	$17 	11.8	15.8	21.7	0	49.3	2735	1674	($4)3_WR	Dez Bryant	$18 	12.5	4.7	12.2	18.5	47.9	1621	816	($5)3_WR	Kendall Wright	$6 	8.7	10.4	11.1	14.6	44.8	1297	827	$6 3_WR	Mike Williams	$11 	9.2	14.9	5.3	15.5	44.9	279	141	$1 3_WR	Nate Washington	$12 	13.3	4	20.2	7.3	44.8	540	310	$0 3_WR	Jeremy Kerley	$3 	14.5	8.7	15.3	3.2	41.7	28	11	$8 3_WR	Donald Jones	$4 	15.1	0.9	9.2	17	42.2	129	85	$7 3_WR	Hakeem Nicks	$21 	7.8	35.9	0	0	43.7	436	194	($10)3_WR	Donnie Avery	$5 	12.7	20.8	4.8	0	38.3	95	59	$5 3_WR	Randall Cobb	$9 	16.7	5.8	2.9	13.6	39	935	479	$1 3_WR	Michael Crabtree$11 	14.6	12.7	10	3.5	40.8	579	289	($1)3_WR	Leonard Hankerso$4 	0	14.8	9.6	12.7	37.1	361	248	$5 3_WR	Brandon LaFell	$10 	15.5	17.5	3.7	0	36.7	751	418	($1)3_WR	Mario Manningham$4 	6.9	8.7	10.6	10.5	36.7	776	428	$4 3_WR	Alshon Jeffery	$6 	17	1.7	9.5	6.2	34.4	973	547	$2 3_WR	Denarius Moore	$18 	0	9.7	15.5	11.1	36.3	123	49	($10)3_WR	Jacoby Jones	$2 	7.6	9.1	11.6	3.7	32	140	89	$5 3_WR	Cecil Shorts	$3 	17.4	0	14.6	1.8	33.8	5	4	$4 3_WR	Armon Binns	$3 	6.8	11.6	15.3	0	33.7	54	39	$4 3_WR	Jeremy Maclin	$17 	22.6	9.3	0	1.7	33.6	778	315	($10)3_WR	Josh Morgan	$3 	3.1	10	4.2	10.2	27.5	133	78	$3 3_WR	Kevin Walter	$4 	3.6	6.4	16.3	1.8	28.1	306	187	$2 3_WR	Jonathan Baldwin$4 	0	9.2	6.6	9	24.8	1296	759	$2 3_WR	Stephen Hill	$6 	25.9	0	0	0	25.9	115	47	$0 3_WR	Golden Tate	$7 	0	6.8	21.8	1.7	30.3	90	45	($1)3_WR	Santana Moss	$8 	7.7	4.4	7.3	6.3	25.7	549	259	($2)3_WR	Titus Young	$10 	3.5	2.1	19.5	3.2	28.3	2548	1446	($4)3_WR	Greg Little	$12 	0	16.7	3.7	11.5	31.9	530	283	($6)3_WR	Sidney Rice	$14 	13.6	6.3	3.2	8.1	31.2	203	88	($8)3_WR	Darrius Heyward-$16 	7.3	8.1	9.4	0	24.8	267	93	($10)3_WR	Greg Jennings	$21 	8.4	0	9.5	7.9	25.8	722	280	($15)3_WR	Damian Williams	$2 	8.3	8.5	4	1.6	22.4	134	77	$3 3_WR	Mohamed Massaquo$3 	7.1	14	2.4	0	23.5	138	83	$2 3_WR	Jason Avant	$5 	6.7	5.3	6.8	5	23.8	117	56	$0 3_WR	Laurent Robinson$6 	11.6	7.9	0	2.9	22.4	281	139	($1)3_WR	Emmanuel Sanders$7 	9.5	6.3	6.3	0	22.1	247	119	($2)3_WR	Randy Moss	$10 	14.7	2.4	5.7	0	22.8	814	330	($5)3_WR	Pierre Garcon	$14 	20.9	0	0	3	23.9	1840	897	($9)3_WR	Eddie Royal	$2 	3.6	3.8	3.7	10.6	21.7	1493	925	$2 3_WR	Brad Smith	$2 	0	3.1	0.6	12.9	16.6	47	23	$2 3_WR	Devin Aromashodu$2 	9.1	2.9	4.4	0	16.4	87	46	$2 3_WR	Michael Jenkins	$3 	7.5	9.3	1.8	1.4	20	27	11	$1 3_WR	Early Doucet	$3 	6.7	5.1	0	7.1	18.9	113	55	$1 3_WR	Devin Hester	$3 	4.3	0	0.8	12.8	17.9	473	281	$1 3_WR	Harry Douglas	$3 	6.2	5.7	3.3	1.6	16.8	484	309	$1 3_WR	Joseph Morgan	$3 	0	1.5	0	15	16.5	40	21	$1 3_WR	Justin Blackmon	$7 	5.4	0	1.7	10.8	17.9	3743	2281	($3)3_WR	Louis Murphy	$2 	9.3	0	1.7	1.8	12.8	322	187	$1 3_WR	Donald Driver	$2 	0	9.6	0	1.3	10.9	831	459	$1 3_WR	Mike Thomas	$2 	-0.1	2.2	1.8	1.9	5.8	155	79	$1 3_WR	Kyle Williams	$2 	0.3	0	3.6	0.9	4.8	33	9	$1 3_WR	Clyde Gates	$2 	0	2	0	0	2	21	9	$1 3_WR	Josh Gordon	$3 	5.2	1.5	7	2.6	16.3	650	383	$0 3_WR	Chaz Schilens	$3 	1.8	0	3.6	7.5	12.9	15	9	$0 3_WR	Chris Givens	$3 	0	0	2.9	6.2	9.1	30	11	$0 3_WR	Josh Cribbs	$3 	0	1.4	3.4	3.1	7.9	115	59	$0 3_WR	Lestar Jean	$3 	1.9	0	5.6	0	7.5	381	217	$0 3_WR	Arrelious Benn	$3 	0	0	1.8	5.3	7.1	80	45	$0 3_WR	Juron Criner	$3 	0	0	0	4.9	4.9	141	72	$0 3_WR	Jerricho Cotcher$3 	0	1.6	1.9	0	3.5	60	28	$0 3_WR	Deion Branch	$3 	0	0	3.1	0	3.1	107	49	$0 3_WR	Legedu Naanee	$3 	0	0	0	2.9	2.9	165	90	$0 3_WR	Ben Obomanu	$3 	0	0	1.8	0	1.8	36	16	$0 3_WR	Devery Henderson$4 	2.1	0	9.3	2	13.4	1202	755	($1)3_WR	Mohamed Sanu	$4 	0	0	9.65	0	9.65	165	97	($1)3_WR	Earl Bennett	$5 	8	4.1	2.1	0	14.2	230	114	($2)3_WR	Steve Smith	$5 	2.6	6.9	2.5	0	12	1208	674	($2)3_WR	Steve Breaston	$5 	5	0	1.2	2.2	8.4	117	53	($2)3_WR	Andre Caldwell	$5 	0	0	0	1.4	1.4	62	34	($2)3_WR	Michael Floyd	$6 	0	0	7.8	7.5	15.3	294	130	($3)3_WR	David Nelson	$6 	5.1	0	0	0	5.1	342	163	($3)3_WR	Brian Quick	$6 	0	0	0	2.9	2.9	171	69	($3)3_WR	Jerome Simpson	$7 	0	0	0	9	9	539	303	($4)3_WR	Doug Baldwin	$8 	2.5	1.8	0	2	6.3	288	127	($5)3_WR	Austin Collie	$9 	0	0	1.6	0	1.6	597	285	($6)3_WR	Robert Meachem	$13 	6.9	0	8.3	0	15.2	193	71	($10)3_WR	Kenny Britt	$13 	0	1.5	11.5	0	13	2376	1234	($10)3_WR	A.J. Jenkins	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	48	20	$0 3_WR	Danny Coale	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	31	15	$0 3_WR	Jason Hill	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	47	20	$0 3_WR	Nick Toon	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	101	45	$0 3_WR	Ryan Broyles	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	361	214	$0 3_WR	Preston Parker	$3 	0	0.7	0	0	0.7	21	12	($1)3_WR	Danario Alexande$3 	0	0	0	0	0	23	12	($1)3_WR	David Gettis	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	44	16	($1)3_WR	Jerrel Jernigan	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	11	6	($1)3_WR	Jordan Shipley	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	65	29	($1)3_WR	Riley Cooper	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	20	7	($1)3_WR	Rueben Randle	$4 	0	0	1.4	0	1.4	258	128	($2)3_WR	Chad Johnson	$4 	0	0	0	0	0	23	8	($2)3_WR	Jacoby Ford	$5 	0	0	0	0	0	217	96	($3)3_WR	Vincent Brown	$6 	0	0	0	0	0	298	121	($4)4_TE	Tony Gonzalez	$13 	18.8	23.5	28.6	12.6	83.5	786	593	$16 4_TE	Jimmy Graham	$29 	23.5	23.6	13.6	18.1	78.8	3111	2002	($1)4_TE	Rob Gronkowski	$28 	21	22.5	5.1	23.9	72.5	871	434	($5)4_TE	Vernon Davis	$17 	14.8	26.8	18.8	5.8	66.2	1086	690	$4 4_TE	Owen Daniels	$11 	14.7	13.7	13.1	22.2	63.7	770	501	$9 4_TE	Brandon Pettigre$15 	15.2	12.3	18.1	17.2	62.8	1408	901	$2 4_TE	Greg Olsen	$11 	14.6	2.8	20.3	23.9	61.6	2072	1417	$5 4_TE	Martellus Bennet$4 	16	20.7	22.3	1.7	60.7	1242	938	$11 4_TE	Scott Chandler	$6 	15.8	14.3	5.2	24.2	59.5	774	538	$8 4_TE	Dennis Pitta	$5 	20.8	18.5	18.5	0	57.8	145	84	$8 4_TE	Heath Miller	$7 	17	12.4	30	0	59.4	606	362	$6 4_TE	Brent Celek	$12 	12.5	27.7	6.6	11.7	58.5	776	454	$1 4_TE	Jason Witten	$21 	4	11.8	3.8	36.7	56.3	45	20	($9)4_TE	Kyle Rudolph	$11 	14.2	14	23.1	3.8	55.1	1368	844	$0 4_TE	Jared Cook	$11 	12.4	6.8	19.7	8.1	47	879	511	$0 4_TE	Jermaine Gresham$13 	7.5	9.7	19.9	12.2	49.3	632	397	($2)4_TE	Jermichael Finle$16 	21.2	8.6	12	11.4	53.2	745	342	($5)4_TE	Brandon Myers	$2 	14	17.6	11.5	3.7	46.8	33	24	$8 4_TE	Fred Davis	$14 	6.8	4.5	19.5	13	43.8	1241	697	($4)4_TE	Jacob Tamme	$13 	17.8	4.3	7.6	11.3	41	1224	558	($4)4_TE	Anthony Fasano	$6 	6.4	10.9	12.2	10.5	40	203	112	$2 4_TE	Marcedes Lewis	$7 	18.7	0	2.3	13.7	34.7	210	112	$1 4_TE	Joel Dreessen	$4 	2.1	4.6	12.6	10.7	30	505	321	$3 4_TE	Ben Watson	$4 	3.9	4.2	7.5	12.7	28.3	249	134	$3 4_TE	Antonio Gates	$20 	10.3	0	6.7	10.4	27.4	1852	905	($13)4_TE	Kellen Davis	$4 	0	9.6	5	10.7	25.3	387	238	$2 4_TE	Zach Miller	$6 	8.5	2.2	4.2	7.7	22.6	284	141	$0 4_TE	Lance Kendricks	$9 	4.6	5.5	6.3	5.2	21.6	366	198	($3)4_TE	Coby Fleener	$10 	17.2	4.6	0	0	21.8	742	354	($4)4_TE	Dallas Clark	$7 	4.8	9.3	1.5	6	21.6	372	188	($2)4_TE	Dwayne Allen	$2 	0	7.8	11	0	18.8	811	518	$2 4_TE	Kevin Boss	$2 	12.6	4.4	0	0	17	337	180	$2 4_TE	Todd Heap	$3 	7.7	13.7	0	0	21.4	213	106	$1 4_TE	Tony Scheffler	$4 	10.5	2.8	0	3.1	16.4	274	146	$0 4_TE	Rob Housler	$4 	0	2.2	4.8	7.8	14.8	161	81	$0 4_TE	Tony Moeaki	$8 	8.2	2.4	4.2	6.3	21.1	342	159	($4)4_TE	Ed Dickson	$8 	5.2	3.8	3.5	0	12.5	261	136	($4)4_TE	Aaron Hernandez	$23 	21.4	0	0	0	21.4	1481	590	($19)4_TE	David Ausberry	$2 	2.7	4.6	2.8	2.4	12.5	22	12	$1 4_TE	Jeff King	$2 	3.8	0	3	5.2	12	28	15	$1 4_TE	Delanie Walker	$2 	0	2.2	1.6	6.1	9.9	82	39	$0 4_TE	Randy McMichael	$2 	0	7.4	2	0	9.4	108	56	$0 4_TE	Leonard Pope	$2 	0	2.2	0	0	2.2	27	6	$0 4_TE	John Carlson	$2 	0	0	0	1.4	1.4	153	92	$0 4_TE	Chris Cooley	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	131	57	$0 4_TE	Julius Thomas	$2 	0	0	0	0	0	78	37	$0 4_TE	Evan Moore	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	78	39	($1)4_TE	Bear Pascoe	$4 	2.1	0	0	8.1	10.2	47	24	($2)4_TE	Zach Miller	$4 	0	0	0	0	0	53	24	($2)4_TE	Kellen Winslow	$6 	0	0	2.7	0	2.7	207	89	($4)4_TE	Dustin Keller	$10 	2.2	0	0	0	2.2	467	217	($8)5_PK	Greg Zuerlein	$3 	15	15	11	21	62	648	446	$3 5_PK	Jason Hanson	$4 	13	20	21	10	64	2219	1470	$2 5_PK	Matt Bryant	$4 	20	12	3	17	52	1343	804	$2 5_PK	Stephen Gostkows$6 	11	21	15	11	58	819	408	$0 5_PK	Lawrence Tynes	$3 	5	17	24	5	51	1314	874	$2 5_PK	David Akers	$6 	19	12	7	13	51	941	490	($1)5_PK	Blair Walsh	$3 	20	11	9	10	50	233	130	$1 5_PK	Connor Barth	$3 	13	15	4	18	50	283	191	$1 5_PK	Phil Dawson	$3 	14	12	2	19	47	261	149	$1 5_PK	Robbie Gould	$3 	12	6	15	12	45	2999	1787	$1 5_PK	Matt Prater	$3 	5	3	15	18	41	4989	3180	$1 5_PK	Billy Cundiff	$4 	22	4	8	8	42	159	66	$0 5_PK	Mike Nugent	$3 	8	12	10	11	41	921	571	$0 5_PK	Ryan Succop	$3 	7	6	26	2	41	237	119	$0 5_PK	Jay Feely	$3 	9	11	11	8	39	185	94	$0 5_PK	Steve Hauschka	$3 	13	9	2	9	33	415	225	$0 5_PK	Josh Scobee	$3 	11	1	14	4	30	248	121	$0 5_PK	Rob Bironas	$3 	7	4	16	2	29	2539	1438	$0 5_PK	Shaun Suisham	$3 	8	13	8	0	29	736	408	$0 5_PK	Dan Carpenter	$3 	5	5	10	8	28	374	170	$0 5_PK	Adam Vinatieri	$3 	3	16	6	0	25	832	416	$0 5_PK	Rian Lindell	$3 	4	5	7	4	20	545	280	$0 5_PK	Justin Medlock	$3 	4	5	1	4	14	477	255	$0 5_PK	Josh Brown	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	44	19	$0 5_PK	Neil Rackers	$3 	0	0	0	0	0	252	116	$0 5_PK	Alex Henery	$4 	7	6	9	16	38	893	471	($1)5_PK	Nate Kaeding	$4 	20	8	5	0	33	878	431	($1)5_PK	Randy Bullock	$4 	0	0	0	0	0	340	159	($1)5_PK	Mason Crosby	$5 	2	17	8	4	31	1429	720	($2)5_PK	Dan Bailey	$5 	7	1	11	5	24	376	148	($2)5_PK	Sebastian Janiko$6 	9	7	13	7	36	458	205	($3)5_PK	Garrett Hartley	$6 	6	12	8	9	35	564	235	($3)6_TD	Arizona Cardinal$4 	7	6	17	12	42	300	184	$2 6_TD	Chicago Bears	$5 	13	9	16	23	61	804	518	$1 6_TD	Houston Texans	$5 	11	5	5	22	43	1621	988	$1 6_TD	Baltimore Raven $5 	14	10	2	11	37	1100	620	$1 6_TD	Washington Redsk$3 	8	14	12	3	37	742	473	$2 6_TD	Cleveland Brown $3 	18	8	3	6	35	233	132	$2 6_TD	New York Jets	$4 	20	3	10	2	35	2024	1145	$1 6_TD	Atlanta Falcons	$4 	9	11	9	5	34	491	277	$1 6_TD	Minnesota Viking$4 	4	2	9	19	34	210	118	$1 6_TD	San Diego Charge$4 	5	2	4	20	31	313	201	$1 6_TD	New England Patr$5 	12	5	2	15	34	982	539	$0 6_TD	Buffalo Bills	$5 	2	17	8	5	32	1609	970	$0 6_TD	Cincinnati Benga$3 	3	10	8	10	31	1860	1225	$1 6_TD	St. Louis Rams	$3 	13	3	4	8	28	251	131	$1 6_TD	Miami Dolphins	$3 	8	2	5	12	27	314	163	$1 6_TD	Tampa Bay Buccan$4 	7	12	10	2	31	117	60	$0 6_TD	Seattle Seahawks$4 	5	11	8	4	28	3222	2039	$0 6_TD	Tennessee Titans$4 	1	6	21	0	28	166	103	$0 6_TD	Denver Broncos	$4 	13	1	7	3	24	1033	591	$0 6_TD	New York Giants	$5 	4	6	12	2	24	763	415	($1)6_TD	San Francisco 49$6 	5	4	4	17	30	3198	1772	($2)6_TD	Green Bay Packer$6 	10	15	1	2	28	584	289	($2)6_TD	Carolina Panther$3 	2	11	2	9	24	483	284	$0 6_TD	New Orleans Sain$3 	7	3	9	4	23	1387	797	$0 6_TD	Indianapolis Col$3 	10	6	1	0	17	196	93	$0 6_TD	Kansas City Chie$3 	1	0	8	5	14	1514	896	$0 6_TD	Jacksonville Jag$3 	4	0	2	4	10	326	155	$0 6_TD	Oakland Raiders	$4 	1	1	5	2	9	252	121	($1)6_TD	Dallas Cowboys	$5 	5	2	6	4	17	314	132	($2)6_TD	Pittsburgh Steel$5 	4	4	3	0	11	835	412	($2)6_TD	Philadelphia Eag$6 	10	6	3	2	21	1000	452	($3)6_TD	Detroit Lions	$6 	3	5	4	2	14	464	213	($3)
 
Top 5 Best buys at each position:

QB: Ryan, RGIII, Brees, Brady, Newton

RB: Spiller, Charles, Rice, Foster, Richardson

WR: Amendola, Hartline, Roberts, A.J. Green, White

TE: Gonzo, Bennett, Daniels, V.Davis, Gronkowksi

PK: Hanson, Zuerlein, Gostkowski, Akers, Bryant

Def: Bears, Texans, Cards, Ravens, Pats
I don't agree with this. How are Brady and Newton better buys then Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Flacco and Fitzpatrick both cost $11 and have both outscored Newton and are within a point or 2 of Brady and they cost $17 less. To me Fitzpatrick and Flacco are 2 of the best buys at qb.
 
BroadwayG....thanks for doing that part of it too.....some good stuff in there

Andre Roberts, Tony G, Hartline, Amendola, James Jones :eek: .....ballin

 
Top 5 Best buys at each position:QB: Ryan, RGIII, Brees, Brady, NewtonRB: Spiller, Charles, Rice, Foster, RichardsonWR: Amendola, Hartline, Roberts, A.J. Green, WhiteTE: Gonzo, Bennett, Daniels, V.Davis, GronkowksiPK: Hanson, Zuerlein, Gostkowski, Akers, BryantDef: Bears, Texans, Cards, Ravens, PatsWorst 5 at each position (i've excluded the players that have scored 0 points to date b/c they're obvious):QB: Skelton, Tannehill, Gabbert, Sanchez, WeedenRB: Forsett, Leonard, Snelling, Ball, WashingtonWR: Kyle Williams, Aromashodu, Mike Thomas, Driver, MurphyTE: Carlson, Pope, McMichael, Walker, KingPK: Medlock, Lindell, Vinatieri, Scobee, CarpenterDef: Jaguars, Chiefs, Saints, Colts, Raiders
I think it's important to clarify what we're looking for - are we looking for the players that give us the best chance to survive for the whole season? Or the best chance to put up the highest point total in a one- or three-week span? What "value" are we trying to pin down here?How would you interpret the above results? Are these the guys that will get you to the final 250, or the guys that will win you the money if you get there? If we're talking survival, I still think we're overcomplicating it to an extent. There are a zillion interactions and survival rate presumably already captures them in as simple a way we could ask for. Newton may be scoring some amount over average but teams with Newton are surviving at a rate (45.8%) much lower than average (56.5%). I assume this is because he cost $28 and had a one really bad week out of three elimination weeks. The other two weeks were really good, so on average he comes out ahead of most other QBs, but that one bad week sunk a lot of teams. So I wouldn't say Newton owners have necessarily gotten the bang for their buck. A guy like Flacco has scored just about the same number of points as Newton over the past three weeks, but Flacco owners have survived at a much better rate - because Flacco was only $11. If we're talking "bang for your buck" I have a hard time with a metric that puts Newton in the top five ahead of Flacco.
 
I agree that marginal chances of survival are what we're trying to measure, but you'd have to set up dummy variables for each guy, include roster size and composition and then run it against survival percentage.

Actually, I'm not sure that's right or possible.

 
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NUM PK	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%	ALL AVG	LIVE AVG1	1519	615	40.5%	167.66	176.772	8773	5034	57.4%	174.84	180.683	2552	1638	64.2%	176.44	181.824	305	177	58.0%	173.77	180.415+	144	40	27.8%	164.05	178.57
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NUM TD	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%	ALL AVG	LIVE AVG1	1556	641	41.2%	167.49	176.822	8691	5026	57.8%	175.01	180.863	2630	1620	61.6%	175.51	181.124	324	184	56.8%	175.03	181.605+	92	33	35.9%	167.95	180.74
It would be most interesting to compare the 18s with 2 TDs to the 19s with 3 TDs as well as the 18s with 2 TDs to the 19s with 3 TDs. Maybe compare the 18s with 2/2 to the 20s with 3/3.Personally, I'm a 30 player team all the way, but if I was to go small roster, I don't see how you don't spend a few more bucks and go 3/3 or 4/4. There ARE points to be had and they're very cheap. When you're going for max roster you have to be more concerned about losing the roster spots than the $3 per kicker or TD.ETA: I see from the chart a few posts back that the 18 with 2 K it out surviving the 19 with 3 K. Strange. Although those that are still alive, the 19-3 teams are outscoring the 18-2 by half a point.
 
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'beast8812 said:
I don't agree with this. How are Brady and Newton better buys then Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Flacco and Fitzpatrick both cost $11 and have both outscored Newton and are within a point or 2 of Brady and they cost $17 less. To me Fitzpatrick and Flacco are 2 of the best buys at qb.
This is a good point. Thinking about this, I take back my whole analysis because it gives an unfair advantage to higher cost players. Namely, most players score below the average starter in this analysis (since only really the very best QB scores count each week), which means they have mostly negative values here. And since I'm dividing by cost, I get a smaller negative value for higher cost players. for example, if 2 players score 10 points below average, the one that costs $10 gets a score of -1, the one that costs $20 gets a score of -.5. Thus rewarding a higher cost player for underperforming. So please disregard my post until I can think of a way to factor this out of the equation.Thanks again.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
I think it's important to clarify what we're looking for - are we looking for the players that give us the best chance to survive for the whole season? Or the best chance to put up the highest point total in a one- or three-week span? What "value" are we trying to pin down here?How would you interpret the above results? Are these the guys that will get you to the final 250, or the guys that will win you the money if you get there? If we're talking survival, I still think we're overcomplicating it to an extent. There are a zillion interactions and survival rate presumably already captures them in as simple a way we could ask for. Newton may be scoring some amount over average but teams with Newton are surviving at a rate (45.8%) much lower than average (56.5%). I assume this is because he cost $28 and had a one really bad week out of three elimination weeks. The other two weeks were really good, so on average he comes out ahead of most other QBs, but that one bad week sunk a lot of teams. So I wouldn't say Newton owners have necessarily gotten the bang for their buck. A guy like Flacco has scored just about the same number of points as Newton over the past three weeks, but Flacco owners have survived at a much better rate - because Flacco was only $11. If we're talking "bang for your buck" I have a hard time with a metric that puts Newton in the top five ahead of Flacco.
see my post above, i now realize the analysis is deeply flawed...but to answer your questions anyway...I think the analysis was aimed as surviving not getting the highest score. I'd interpret the results (if they were correct) as players who have outproduced their cost, and thus would be valuable commodities on your team.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Modog814 said:
A better way, I think, to look at is is to examine by team make up. As in compare the 3 kicker teams to the 2 kicker teams that have the same roster size. That would give you a much clearer picture of the impact of 2 vs 3 kickers as it eliminates a lot of the other variables other than player selection but that should even itself out.
Good idea. Eventually we'll probably break down and do a full-blown GLM or something, but for now I'm trying to stick with these one- and two-way analyses. :)So for kickers:
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ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	1001	3263	287	46	3619	220	1429	138	17	920	126	1072	152	13	1421	64	861	193	16	1222	35	688	229	9	523	20	503	266	19	624	16	319	272	17	325	16	214	232	13	926	7	136	208	29	427	2	109	168	27	628	4	59	132	26	929	3	60	102	23	530	6	72	184	51	26ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	397	1740	135	20	1019	86	821	68	8	120	56	636	94	5	221	25	514	109	8	322	19	410	146	5	123	9	297	187	10	324	6	205	186	10	025	6	134	164	9	326	5	88	136	17	027	0	78	112	18	528	3	35	99	15	229	3	39	78	17	230	1	46	131	36	8SURV	1	2	3	4	5+18	39.7%	53.3%	47.0%	43.5%	27.8%19	39.1%	57.5%	49.3%	47.1%	11.1%20	44.4%	59.3%	61.8%	38.5%	14.3%21	39.1%	59.7%	56.5%	50.0%	25.0%22	54.3%	59.6%	63.8%	55.6%	20.0%23	45.0%	59.0%	70.3%	52.6%	50.0%24	37.5%	64.3%	68.4%	58.8%	0.0%25	37.5%	62.6%	70.7%	69.2%	33.3%26	71.4%	64.7%	65.4%	58.6%	0.0%27	0.0%	71.6%	66.7%	66.7%	83.3%28	75.0%	59.3%	75.0%	57.7%	22.2%29	100.0%	65.0%	76.5%	73.9%	40.0%30	16.7%	63.9%	71.2%	70.6%	30.8%ALL	1	2	3	4	5+18	168.21	174.14	173.48	168.55	164.6919	166.81	174.96	173.63	172.39	168.5920	167.67	175.04	176.38	165.71	162.3021	167.32	175.93	175.27	171.09	173.0422	168.28	175.59	176.52	179.08	157.3323	163.60	174.90	177.74	171.42	165.1524	166.86	175.02	177.84	178.54	162.3325	162.91	175.29	177.13	177.16	165.6926	165.74	175.36	176.92	175.50	161.9827	109.49	176.31	176.66	178.89	176.8828	170.00	174.98	177.49	175.08	165.0529	168.47	173.90	178.23	176.43	165.7430	157.61	175.19	177.07	173.86	155.75ALIVE	1	2	3	4	5+18	177.36	180.46	180.70	178.29	175.6519	175.89	180.98	181.04	182.17	164.8620	175.63	180.37	182.45	181.16	182.0821	176.14	181.47	182.20	175.66	175.0622	176.91	181.10	181.40	184.14	175.9523	176.95	180.55	182.06	179.85	178.9024	174.60	180.25	182.74	183.36	------25	178.33	180.22	182.25	183.22	176.3826	169.03	181.29	182.65	183.02	------27	------	179.78	181.50	179.99	180.2828	176.14	180.66	180.96	180.48	181.0829	168.47	178.15	181.25	180.24	181.2430	172.73	181.69	181.41	179.23	183.05
The first two tables show the counts of all teams and still-alive teams, respectively, broken out by total roster size and number of kickers. The third table shows the survival rates. The fourth and fifth tables show the average total weekly scores for all teams and still-alive teams.So just eyeballing these tables, we might come to the interesting conclusion that if you're sticking with a small (18 or 19) roster, then you're better off with just 2 kickers. Adding a third kicker presumably leaves you too thin at the more important positions. If you go with a larger roster, then adding a third kicker appears to be a good idea.
I think this clearly shows that the optimal roster configuration is to go with 29 players and only 1 kicker.That and its amazing that there are 10 rosters still alive that have only 18 players and 5 or more of that 18 are kickers.
 
'beast8812 said:
I don't agree with this. How are Brady and Newton better buys then Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Flacco and Fitzpatrick both cost $11 and have both outscored Newton and are within a point or 2 of Brady and they cost $17 less. To me Fitzpatrick and Flacco are 2 of the best buys at qb.
This is a good point. Thinking about this, I take back my whole analysis because it gives an unfair advantage to higher cost players. Namely, most players score below the average starter in this analysis (since only really the very best QB scores count each week), which means they have mostly negative values here. And since I'm dividing by cost, I get a smaller negative value for higher cost players. for example, if 2 players score 10 points below average, the one that costs $10 gets a score of -1, the one that costs $20 gets a score of -.5. Thus rewarding a higher cost player for underperforming. So please disregard my post until I can think of a way to factor this out of the equation.Thanks again.
It might work just to count points above the baseline; just change all the negatives to zero.
 
'beast8812 said:
I don't agree with this. How are Brady and Newton better buys then Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Flacco and Fitzpatrick both cost $11 and have both outscored Newton and are within a point or 2 of Brady and they cost $17 less. To me Fitzpatrick and Flacco are 2 of the best buys at qb.
This is a good point. Thinking about this, I take back my whole analysis because it gives an unfair advantage to higher cost players. Namely, most players score below the average starter in this analysis (since only really the very best QB scores count each week), which means they have mostly negative values here. And since I'm dividing by cost, I get a smaller negative value for higher cost players. for example, if 2 players score 10 points below average, the one that costs $10 gets a score of -1, the one that costs $20 gets a score of -.5. Thus rewarding a higher cost player for underperforming. So please disregard my post until I can think of a way to factor this out of the equation.Thanks again.
It might work just to count points above the baseline; just change all the negatives to zero.
I was going to do this, but most players score below the baseline most of the time so they'll be 0. I could change the baseline from average score to say 75th percentile. I guess the best way would be to change the baseline weekly to the % that gets cut that week...
 
I think the analysis was aimed as surviving not getting the highest score.
I think we'd need to incorporate some measure of consistency then. From a survival standpoint, a guy who is +5 above average for four straight weeks is probably better than a guy that goes +20 for two weeks and -10 for two weeks. You need to be above the cutline, but it doesn't matter how high above the cutline you are. You just can't dip below. The second guy might be more useful in the finals, though, as you need those +20 weeks to vault you to the top of the standings.
 
I think the analysis was aimed as surviving not getting the highest score.
I think we'd need to incorporate some measure of consistency then. From a survival standpoint, a guy who is +5 above average for four straight weeks is probably better than a guy that goes +20 for two weeks and -10 for two weeks. You need to be above the cutline, but it doesn't matter how high above the cutline you are. You just can't dip below. The second guy might be more useful in the finals, though, as you need those +20 weeks to vault you to the top of the standings.
Another good point. Perhaps score * % above base line. So in your example, player A has score of 20 (20 pts above baseline * 100%) while player B has score 10 (20 points above baseline * 50%)?
 
Here is "Bang for Buck" analysis with a few adjustments:

1) no negative scores, all below baseline get 0.

2) baseline is adjustd to the xth percentile, where x is the percentage that gets eliminated that week (note b/c of this we ignore week1)

3) A Consistancy Factor is added, which is just the % of times above baseline (bye weeks may factor into this but whatever...)

4) So Total Score is Points Above Baseline / Cost.

5) W/CF is Total Score x Consistancy Factor

W2 W3 W4 Total W/CFAndy Dalton $14 8.90 3.85 0.50 0.95 0.95 Ben Roethlisberger $18 2.35 13.85 - 0.90 0.60 Robert Griffin III $17 11.10 1.40 - 0.74 0.49 Ryan Fitzpatrick $11 0.90 - 6.70 0.69 0.46 Cam Newton $28 8.35 - 9.15 0.63 0.42 Sam Bradford $10 9.10 - - 0.91 0.30 Drew Brees $29 0.85 - 12.10 0.45 0.30 Matt Ryan $19 1.45 - 6.25 0.41 0.27 Brandon Weeden $8 5.30 - - 0.66 0.22 Eli Manning $21 13.90 - - 0.66 0.22 Christian Ponder $9 1.55 1.05 - 0.29 0.19 Matt Schaub $13 - 6.35 - 0.49 0.16 Joe Flacco $11 - 5.25 - 0.48 0.16 Jake Locker $9 - 4.25 - 0.47 0.16 Matt Cassel $9 4.15 - - 0.46 0.15 Tom Brady $30 - - 13.20 0.44 0.15 Andrew Luck $11 1.90 0.50 - 0.22 0.15 Peyton Manning $18 - - 6.60 0.37 0.12 Aaron Rodgers $31 - - 11.05 0.36 0.12 Philip Rivers $23 7.70 - - 0.33 0.11 Michael Vick $22 6.55 - - 0.30 0.10 Kevin Kolb $7 - - 2.00 0.29 0.10 Alex Smith $12 0.60 - - 0.05 0.02 Matthew Stafford $26 - - - - - Ryan Tannehill $4 - - - - - Jay Cutler $17 - - - - - Tim Tebow $6 - - - - - Blaine Gabbert $6 - - - - - Tony Romo $20 - - - - - John Skelton $7 - - - - - Carson Palmer $15 - - - - - Josh Freeman $16 - - - - - Mark Sanchez $7 - - - - - Matt Flynn $8 - - - - - Matt Hasselbeck $3 - - - - - Tarvaris Jackson $3 - - - - - David Garrard $6 - - - - - Chad Henne $5 - - - - - Matt Moore $6 - - - - - Jackie Battle $2 9.30 - 13.70 11.50 7.67 Cedric Benson $3 6.00 5.40 4.20 5.20 5.20 Willis McGahee $16 16.80 - 15.10 1.99 1.33 Trent Richardson $28 20.90 6.10 10.00 1.32 1.32 Jamaal Charles $24 - 29.80 16.10 1.91 1.28 Michael Turner $18 1.60 5.10 15.70 1.24 1.24 C.J. Spiller $15 22.40 2.80 - 1.68 1.12 Ray Rice $33 11.60 15.00 7.20 1.02 1.02 Maurice Jones-Drew $25 6.10 16.30 2.60 1.00 1.00 Arian Foster $34 17.10 6.80 6.00 0.88 0.88 Marshawn Lynch $19 8.60 - 15.10 1.25 0.83 James Casey $2 - - 4.20 2.10 0.70 Darren Sproles $23 16.20 - 7.00 1.01 0.67 Stevan Ridley $16 2.90 - 12.20 0.94 0.63 Frank Gore $19 8.90 - 5.10 0.74 0.49 Mikel Leshoure $9 - 12.40 - 1.38 0.46 Ben Tate $12 16.10 - - 1.34 0.45 Adrian Peterson $21 1.40 1.70 5.80 0.42 0.42 DeMarco Murray $24 1.90 3.50 4.70 0.42 0.42 Reggie Bush $20 25.10 - - 1.26 0.42 Mike Goodson $6 7.10 - - 1.18 0.39 Lamar Miller $3 2.90 - - 0.97 0.32 Pierre Thomas $10 8.70 - - 0.87 0.29 LeSean McCoy $32 7.30 - 6.60 0.43 0.29 Jacquizz Rodgers $10 - 6.70 - 0.67 0.22 DeAngelo Williams $15 3.30 - 1.70 0.33 0.22 BenJarvus Green-Ellis $17 3.90 - 1.00 0.29 0.19 Daniel Thomas $8 - 4.00 - 0.50 0.17 Michael Bush $10 - 4.30 - 0.43 0.14 Darren McFadden $26 - 8.50 - 0.33 0.11 Chris Johnson $27 - - 7.30 0.27 0.09 Jonathan Stewart $16 4.20 - - 0.26 0.09 Kendall Hunter $6 - - 1.20 0.20 0.07 Doug Martin $21 3.00 - - 0.14 0.05 Mark Ingram $14 1.70 - - 0.12 0.04 Peyton Hillis $14 1.50 - - 0.11 0.04 Matt Forte $27 2.40 - - 0.09 0.03 Isaac Redman $18 1.30 - - 0.07 0.02 Danny Woodhead $5 - 0.30 - 0.06 0.02 Ryan Mathews $30 - 1.60 - 0.05 0.02 Fred Jackson $21 - - 0.50 0.02 0.01 Ahmad Bradshaw $21 - - 0.30 0.01 0.00 Donald Brown $19 - 0.10 - 0.01 0.00 Evan Royster $3 - - - - - David Wilson $9 - - - - - Rashard Mendenhall $4 - - - - - Taiwan Jones $2 - - - - - Jonathan Dwyer $4 - - - - - Rashad Jennings $9 - - - - - Ronnie Brown $2 - - - - - Steven Jackson $22 - - - - - Kevin Smith $12 - - - - - Ryan Williams $12 - - - - - Dexter McCluster $3 - - - - - Bilal Powell $4 - - - - - Robert Turbin $6 - - - - - LeGarrette Blount $6 - - - - - Shane Vereen $6 - - - - - Montario Hardesty $3 - - - - - Isaiah Pead $6 - - - - - Toby Gerhart $13 - - - - - Ronnie Hillman $11 - - - - - Mike Tolbert $4 - - - - - Bernard Scott $4 - - - - - Jahvid Best $6 - - - - - Lance Ball $2 - - - - - Chris Wells $13 - - - - - Brandon Jacobs $5 - - - - - Felix Jones $9 - - - - - Jason Snelling $2 - - - - - Javon Ringer $4 - - - - - Alex Green $6 - - - - - Roy Helu $17 - - - - - Shonn Greene $20 - - - - - Bernard Pierce $3 - - - - - Tim Hightower $7 - - - - - Dion Lewis $4 - - - - - LaMichael James $3 - - - - - Justin Forsett $2 - - - - - Delone Carter $4 - - - - - LeRon McClain $4 - - - - - Brian Leonard $2 - - - - - Leon Washington $3 - - - - - LaRod Stephens-Howling $3 - - - - - Danny Ware $4 - - - - - James Starks $17 - - - - - Marcel Reece $6 - - - - - Joe McKnight $7 - - - - - Deji Karim $2 - - - - - Danny Amendola $6 27.40 0.60 7.70 5.95 5.95 Brian Hartline $6 10.50 - 32.90 7.23 4.82 Dwayne Bowe $17 20.60 3.90 13.40 2.23 2.23 Andre Roberts $3 - - 19.40 6.47 2.16 A.J. Green $22 9.20 23.40 13.30 2.09 2.09 Armon Binns $3 2.00 4.30 - 2.10 1.40 James Jones $3 - - 12.20 4.07 1.36 Torrey Smith $16 - 19.70 11.30 1.94 1.29 Davone Bess $6 - 2.60 8.90 1.92 1.28 Leonard Hankerson $4 5.20 - 2.30 1.88 1.25 Victor Cruz $22 25.30 - 15.50 1.85 1.24 Wes Welker $23 4.90 11.20 11.50 1.20 1.20 Roddy White $23 14.60 - 26.50 1.79 1.19 Nate Burleson $8 - 12.60 0.50 1.64 1.09 Mike Wallace $16 8.80 15.40 - 1.51 1.01 Brandon Lloyd $18 4.40 8.80 3.60 0.93 0.93 Vincent Jackson $19 14.20 - 11.60 1.36 0.91 Miles Austin $20 7.70 4.70 5.30 0.89 0.89 Kendall Wright $6 0.80 0.10 4.20 0.85 0.85 Eric Decker $17 - 10.60 10.50 1.24 0.83 DeSean Jackson $18 8.80 - 11.50 1.13 0.75 Donnie Avery $5 11.20 - - 2.24 0.75 Percy Harvin $20 14.10 7.80 - 1.10 0.73 Reggie Wayne $15 9.50 5.80 - 1.02 0.68 Larry Fitzgerald $25 - 15.40 10.00 1.02 0.68 Calvin Johnson $29 7.80 21.40 - 1.01 0.67 Antonio Brown $17 6.20 10.70 - 0.99 0.66 Santonio Holmes $15 2.20 12.70 - 0.99 0.66 Mike Williams $11 5.30 - 5.10 0.95 0.63 Jordy Nelson $20 4.80 - 12.90 0.89 0.59 Lance Moore $11 - 6.00 3.30 0.85 0.56 Donald Jones $4 - - 6.60 1.65 0.55 Brandon Marshall $22 - 1.10 16.40 0.80 0.53 Demaryius Thomas $22 12.20 - 4.90 0.78 0.52 Golden Tate $7 - 10.80 - 1.54 0.51 Joseph Morgan $3 - - 4.60 1.53 0.51 Mohamed Massaquoi $3 4.40 - - 1.47 0.49 Jeremy Kerley $3 - 4.30 - 1.43 0.48 Greg Little $12 7.10 - 1.10 0.68 0.46 Steve Johnson $18 4.00 8.10 - 0.67 0.45 Kevin Walter $4 - 5.30 - 1.33 0.44 Hakeem Nicks $21 26.30 - - 1.25 0.42 Brad Smith $2 - - 2.50 1.25 0.42 Cecil Shorts $3 - 3.60 - 1.20 0.40 Marques Colston $19 - - 19.90 1.05 0.35 Dez Bryant $18 - 1.20 8.10 0.52 0.34 Anquan Boldin $12 - - 11.70 0.98 0.33 Denarius Moore $18 0.10 4.50 0.70 0.29 0.29 Titus Young $10 - 8.50 - 0.85 0.28 Devin Hester $3 - - 2.40 0.80 0.27 Brandon LaFell $10 7.90 - - 0.79 0.26 Nate Washington $12 - 9.20 - 0.77 0.26 Malcom Floyd $13 7.30 - - 0.56 0.19 Steve Smith $20 3.80 1.60 - 0.27 0.18 Randall Cobb $9 - - 3.20 0.36 0.12 Jacoby Jones $2 - 0.60 - 0.30 0.10 Julio Jones $23 - 6.70 - 0.29 0.10 Michael Crabtree $11 3.10 - - 0.28 0.09 Andre Johnson $24 - 4.20 - 0.18 0.06 Eddie Royal $2 - - 0.20 0.10 0.03 Justin Blackmon $7 - - 0.40 0.06 0.02 Kenny Britt $13 - 0.50 - 0.04 0.01 Mario Manningham $4 - - 0.10 0.02 0.01 Pierre Garcon $14 - - - - - Jonathan Baldwin $4 - - - - - Steve Smith $5 - - - - - Devery Henderson $4 - - - - - Alshon Jeffery $6 - - - - - Donald Driver $2 - - - - - Randy Moss $10 - - - - - Jeremy Maclin $17 - - - - - Greg Jennings $21 - - - - - Josh Gordon $3 - - - - - Austin Collie $9 - - - - - Santana Moss $8 - - - - - Jerome Simpson $7 - - - - - Harry Douglas $3 - - - - - Kevin Ogletree $3 - - - - - Lestar Jean $3 - - - - - Ryan Broyles $2 - - - - - David Nelson $6 - - - - - Louis Murphy $2 - - - - - Vincent Brown $6 - - - - - Michael Floyd $6 - - - - - Doug Baldwin $8 - - - - - Laurent Robinson $6 - - - - - Darrius Heyward-Bey $16 - - - - - Rueben Randle $4 - - - - - Emmanuel Sanders $7 - - - - - Earl Bennett $5 - - - - - Jacoby Ford $5 - - - - - Sidney Rice $14 - - - - - Robert Meachem $13 - - - - - Brian Quick $6 - - - - - Legedu Naanee $3 - - - - - Mohamed Sanu $4 - - - - - Mike Thomas $2 - - - - - Juron Criner $3 - - - - - Damian Williams $2 - - - - - Josh Morgan $3 - - - - - Steve Breaston $5 - - - - - Jason Avant $5 - - - - - Stephen Hill $6 - - - - - Josh Cribbs $3 - - - - - Early Doucet $3 - - - - - Deion Branch $3 - - - - - Nick Toon $2 - - - - - Devin Aromashodu $2 - - - - - Arrelious Benn $3 - - - - - Jordan Shipley $3 - - - - - Andre Caldwell $5 - - - - - Jerricho Cotchery $3 - - - - - A.J. Jenkins $2 - - - - - Jason Hill $2 - - - - - David Gettis $3 - - - - - Ben Obomanu $3 - - - - - Kyle Williams $2 - - - - - Danny Coale $2 - - - - - Chris Givens $3 - - - - - Michael Jenkins $3 - - - - - Danario Alexander $3 - - - - - Chad Johnson $4 - - - - - Preston Parker $3 - - - - - Clyde Gates $2 - - - - - Riley Cooper $3 - - - - - Chaz Schilens $3 - - - - - Jerrel Jernigan $3 - - - - - Martellus Bennett $4 11.10 11.30 - 5.60 3.73 Brandon Myers $2 8.00 0.50 - 4.25 2.83 Tony Gonzalez $13 13.90 17.60 2.20 2.59 2.59 Dennis Pitta $5 8.90 7.50 - 3.28 2.19 Heath Miller $7 2.80 19.00 - 3.11 2.08 Scott Chandler $6 4.70 - 13.80 3.08 2.06 Owen Daniels $11 4.10 2.10 11.80 1.64 1.64 Greg Olsen $11 - 9.30 13.50 2.07 1.38 Brandon Pettigrew $15 2.70 7.10 6.80 1.11 1.11 Brent Celek $12 18.10 - 1.30 1.62 1.08 Kyle Rudolph $11 4.40 12.10 - 1.50 1.00 Vernon Davis $17 17.20 7.80 - 1.47 0.98 Jason Witten $21 2.20 - 26.30 1.36 0.90 Jimmy Graham $29 14.00 2.60 7.70 0.84 0.84 Jermaine Gresham $13 0.10 8.90 1.80 0.83 0.83 Rob Gronkowski $28 12.90 - 13.50 0.94 0.63 Fred Davis $14 - 8.50 2.60 0.79 0.53 Todd Heap $3 4.10 - - 1.37 0.46 Anthony Fasano $6 1.30 1.20 0.10 0.43 0.43 Joel Dreessen $4 - 1.60 0.30 0.48 0.32 Jared Cook $11 - 8.70 - 0.79 0.26 Ben Watson $4 - - 2.30 0.58 0.19 Marcedes Lewis $7 - - 3.30 0.47 0.16 Jermichael Finley $16 - 1.00 1.00 0.13 0.08 Kellen Davis $4 - - 0.30 0.07 0.02 Jacob Tamme $13 - - 0.90 0.07 0.02 Antonio Gates $20 - - - - - Aaron Hernandez $23 - - - - - Dwayne Allen $2 - - - - - Coby Fleener $10 - - - - - Dustin Keller $10 - - - - - Dallas Clark $7 - - - - - Lance Kendricks $9 - - - - - Tony Moeaki $8 - - - - - Kevin Boss $2 - - - - - Zach Miller $6 - - - - - Tony Scheffler $4 - - - - - Ed Dickson $8 - - - - - Kellen Winslow $6 - - - - - Rob Housler $4 - - - - - John Carlson $2 - - - - - Chris Cooley $2 - - - - - Randy McMichael $2 - - - - - Delanie Walker $2 - - - - - Julius Thomas $2 - - - - - Evan Moore $3 - - - - - Zach Miller $4 - - - - - Bear Pascoe $4 - - - - - Jeff King $2 - - - - - Leonard Pope $2 - - - - - David Ausberry $2 - - - - - Lawrence Tynes $3 11.00 9.00 - 6.67 4.44 Greg Zuerlein $3 9.00 - 11.00 6.67 4.44 Connor Barth $3 9.00 - 8.00 5.67 3.78 Jason Hanson $4 14.00 6.00 - 5.00 3.33 Phil Dawson $3 6.00 - 9.00 5.00 3.33 Matt Bryant $4 6.00 - 7.00 3.25 2.17 Stephen Gostkowski $6 15.00 - 1.00 2.67 1.78 Mike Nugent $3 6.00 - 1.00 2.33 1.56 Ryan Succop $3 - 11.00 - 3.67 1.22 Adam Vinatieri $3 10.00 - - 3.33 1.11 David Akers $6 6.00 - 3.00 1.50 1.00 Matt Prater $3 - - 8.00 2.67 0.89 Shaun Suisham $3 7.00 - - 2.33 0.78 Mason Crosby $5 11.00 - - 2.20 0.73 Blair Walsh $3 5.00 - - 1.67 0.56 Jay Feely $3 5.00 - - 1.67 0.56 Alex Henery $4 - - 6.00 1.50 0.50 Garrett Hartley $6 6.00 - - 1.00 0.33 Steve Hauschka $3 3.00 - - 1.00 0.33 Robbie Gould $3 - - 2.00 0.67 0.22 Nate Kaeding $4 2.00 - - 0.50 0.17 Rob Bironas $3 - 1.00 - 0.33 0.11 Sebastian Janikowski $6 1.00 - - 0.17 0.06 Rian Lindell $3 - - - - - Justin Medlock $3 - - - - - Dan Bailey $5 - - - - - Dan Carpenter $3 - - - - - Randy Bullock $4 - - - - - Neil Rackers $3 - - - - - Josh Scobee $3 - - - - - Billy Cundiff $4 - - - - - Josh Brown $3 - - - - - Chicago Bears $5 4.00 9.00 18.00 6.20 6.20 Arizona Cardinals $4 1.00 10.00 7.00 4.50 4.50 Cincinnati Bengals $3 5.00 1.00 5.00 3.67 3.67 Washington Redskins $3 9.00 5.00 - 4.67 3.11 Minnesota Vikings $4 - 2.00 14.00 4.00 2.67 Tennessee Titans $4 1.00 14.00 - 3.75 2.50 Carolina Panthers $3 6.00 - 4.00 3.33 2.22 Buffalo Bills $5 12.00 1.00 - 2.60 1.73 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $4 7.00 3.00 - 2.50 1.67 Baltimore Ravens $5 5.00 - 6.00 2.20 1.47 Atlanta Falcons $4 6.00 2.00 - 2.00 1.33 San Diego Chargers $4 - - 15.00 3.75 1.25 Seattle Seahawks $4 6.00 1.00 - 1.75 1.17 Houston Texans $5 - - 17.00 3.40 1.13 Cleveland Browns $3 3.00 - 1.00 1.33 0.89 New York Giants $5 1.00 5.00 - 1.20 0.80 Miami Dolphins $3 - - 7.00 2.33 0.78 San Francisco 49ers $6 - - 12.00 2.00 0.67 New England Patriots $5 - - 10.00 2.00 0.67 Green Bay Packers $6 10.00 - - 1.67 0.56 St. Louis Rams $3 - - 3.00 1.00 0.33 New York Jets $4 - 3.00 - 0.75 0.25 New Orleans Saints $3 - 2.00 - 0.67 0.22 Kansas City Chiefs $3 - 1.00 - 0.33 0.11 Indianapolis Colts $3 1.00 - - 0.33 0.11 Philadelphia Eagles $6 1.00 - - 0.17 0.06 Denver Broncos $4 - - - - - Pittsburgh Steelers $5 - - - - - Detroit Lions $6 - - - - - Jacksonville Jaguars $3 - - - - - Dallas Cowboys $5 - - - - - Oakland Raiders $4 - - - - -
Top 5 players at each position:

QB: Dalton, Roethlisberger, RGIII, Fitzpatrick, Newton

RB: Battle, Benson, McGahee, Richardson, Charles

WR: Amendola, Hartline, Bowe, Roberts, Green

TE: Bennett, Myers, Gonzo, Pitta, H.Miller

PK: Tynes, Zuerlein, Barth, Hanson, Dawson

Def: Bears, Cards, Bengals, Redskins, Vikings

 
(ETA: I was writing this before your latest post, Modog, so don't take this to refer to the last set of values you just posted.)

I still think we might be doing a lot of work for very little insight, though. Going back to the Newton/Flacco comparison, we can just eyeball the table of player scores and guess that $11 Flacco has probably provided more "value" than $28 Newton. So we try to devise metrics that pick up on this, but we already have one - survival rate of teams with those players. Flacco owners have survived at a much greater rate than Newton owners, which is what we would guess would happen when you have two players that have performed about the same but one costs 2.5 times as much as the other.

Let's leave out week 1 results since there were no eliminations that week anyway. If I take a totally unscientific approach and just go with my gut after looking at the table of QB results, I'd say the best values so far (in no particular order, other than alphabetical) have been:

$14 Andy Dalton

$29 Drew Brees

$21 Eli Manning

$11 Joe Flacco

$7 Kevin Kolb

$19 Matt Ryan

$17 RG III

$11 Ryan Fitzpatrick

They've all put up pretty good points, but perhaps more importantly they haven't had one of those bad weeks yet that could sink you.

I really just did that without looking at any other stats. Now to keep myself honest I'll pull up the survival rates:

Flacco, Ryan, Fitz, and Brees are four of the top five QBs in survival percentage (Locker is 4th). Manning owners are surviving at a rate just a tick above average. Dalton, Kolb, and Griffin owners are all surviving at a lower than average rate (though there are only like 23 Kolb owners, so just one or two teams moving from "eliminated" to "alive" would cause a huge swing in this percentage).

So maybe simple survival rate doesn't adequately capture QB value. I'm actually quite surprised to see how low Dalton and RG III owners are in survival rate. Dalton is also relatively uncommon (only 282 owners to start the contest) but I think he's certainly performed well enough to not be the reason his owners are getting knocked off. Same with Griffin, though he's much more commonly owned. I'm very interested to look into this a little more and see why guys like Flacco and Fitz are exhibiting high survival rates while Dalton's (and to a lesser extent, Griffin's) are so low.

Can it simply be that Flacco/Fitz owners had an extra $3-6 to spend over the Dalton/Griffin owners, which is putting them over the top? It's possible that people who splurged on a "stud" QB were more often looking in the $11 range for a backup, so they're more likely to take Flacco or Fitz than the higher-priced Dalton or Griffin, but again, all of these guys have performed well enough over the past three weeks to not be a problem for their owners, so I have a hard time believing that's what's going on here.

I feel like whatever metric we come up with has to capture the fact that most of the high-priced "studs" aren't living up to their price (so a guy like Brady probably shouldn't end up near the top), has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Flacco and Fitz are putting up stud-like points over the past few weeks and have the survival rates to show for it, but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it.

Hmm...

 
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I was just kind of looking to see who has outperformed their cost and who has underperformed their cost to this point.....not even how it really relates to "surviving"....

I looked at their "cost" as being like their ADP or drafted slot so to speak....it's pretty easy to just kind of see this in general, but I thought since there is an actual dollar figure attached to each player that there might be some way to see actual "value"...and how valuable one player has been compared to another just based on points alone, not "surviving"...

obviously guys like Andre Roberts, Amendola, etc seem to be giving you more than what you actually paid for, I just didn't know if there was a formula that could accurately put it in comparison to all other players....

I think what Broadway G did ws kind of it....Rodgers was priced as the QB1....but total points wise he is playing at QB12.....

thanks for all your guys work....

 
but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it. Hmm...
Anyone drafting a Bengal probably bungeled the rest of their roster. :ph34r:
:thumbdown: :boxing:Anyway perhaps most of the people who picked Dalton has him backing up a more expensive QB and the total $ invested at the QB position is what's hurting their survival rate?-QG
 
Can it simply be that Flacco/Fitz owners had an extra $3-6 to spend over the Dalton/Griffin owners, which is putting them over the top?
It turns out it really is this simple - or rather, it's correlated with roster size:
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PLAYER                        	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30Ryan Fitzpatrick              	22.2%	10.6%	9.0%	10.9%	7.1%	7.0%	6.5%	6.2%	5.6%	3.6%	2.0%	2.8%	6.5%Joe Flacco                    	23.3%	12.0%	9.9%	8.2%	8.3%	8.3%	7.7%	4.9%	4.6%	3.2%	2.9%	2.4%	4.1%Andy Dalton                   	30.9%	14.2%	12.4%	10.3%	6.0%	8.5%	3.9%	2.1%	4.6%	1.8%	1.4%	0.4%	3.5%Robert Griffin III            	32.3%	13.6%	10.7%	8.4%	8.6%	6.3%	4.9%	4.4%	3.2%	2.0%	1.4%	1.6%	2.8%
Dalton and Griffin are more likely to be found on smaller rosters, while Fitz and Flacco are more likely to be found on larger rosters. So Dalton and Griffin owners are doing worse than Fitz and Flacco owners not because Dalton or Griffin have done any worse than Flacco or Fitz, but simply because they have a smaller roster. So you could argue it really is simply related to the fact that Fitz and Flacco are a few bucks cheaper than Dalton and Griffin.
 
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But if not one of those, I am looking forward to the explanation of why you would rather have roughly a 7% chance less of being alive in the contest.
An average kicker score column is needed in our information.
NUM PK ALL ALIVE SURV% ALL AVG LIVE AVG1 1519 615 40.5% 167.66 176.772 8773 5034 57.4% 174.84 180.683 2552 1638 64.2% 176.44 181.824 305 177 58.0% 173.77 180.415+ 144 40 27.8% 164.05 178.57We have the average of the teams with 2 kickers and the average with 3 - average of the actual kickers isn't a good metric to look at because it ignores extra value you can accumulate at other positions. Even with that, you are still ignoring that average score is only part of the picture - volatility matters as well. In the elimination weeks, would you rather have a team that scored 180 every week or 360 50% of the time and 0 50% of the time?

Luckily the volatility and average score is summarized above in the survival rate. There are potential arguments against it, which I have provided, but you don't seem to be interested in those.
Average of kicker score may not be the best metric to look at but I'm not sure it's any worse than average team score. The fact is that there is so much cross effect in any specific position analysis that its difficult to make any assertion from the data. It appears that 3 kickers is at least slightly better than 2, but who's to say that the reason is because of the difference in kickers and not because of one of the many other possible differences. A better way, I think, to look at is is to examine by team make up. As in compare the 3 kicker teams to the 2 kicker teams that have the same roster size. That would give you a much clearer picture of the impact of 2 vs 3 kickers as it eliminates a lot of the other variables other than player selection but that should even itself out.

Also the 7% difference in survival rate might seem like a lot but its still early and I'd think it'd be well within any possible margin of error.
These are acceptable considerations. I actually provided potential arguments against this being conclusive, but someone wasn't willing to use one of those in support of his claims. The only way you can say that actual kicker score is a better measure than team score in the 2 kicker vs. 3 kicker debate is that the samples are skewed by the selection of other components. Because assuming similar values per kicker, the 2 kicker teams should have more money to spend elsewhere. And the only rationale for 2 kickers being better at this point is if there is only a negligible increase in kicker scoring for 3 and this is outweighed elsewhere. Effectively, a lot of people picking 2 kickers also are not very good at picking the rest of their team. To be clear: this is not saying that 2 kickers is not optimal - it may very well be - just that because so many people are picking 2 kickers there are a lot of junk entries included in the 2 kicker sample. Which is something I mentioned as a possible argument on the last page of the thread.

So I can appreciate that the conclusion is not confirmed, but the thought process going into supporting 2 kickers was off in some responses by others.

 
(ETA: I was writing this before your latest post, Modog, so don't take this to refer to the last set of values you just posted.)

I still think we might be doing a lot of work for very little insight, though.
Maybe, but isn't that kinda what we do around here...

Going back to the Newton/Flacco comparison, we can just eyeball the table of player scores and guess that $11 Flacco has probably provided more "value" than $28 Newton. So we try to devise metrics that pick up on this, but we already have one - survival rate of teams with those players. Flacco owners have survived at a much greater rate than Newton owners, which is what we would guess would happen when you have two players that have performed about the same but one costs 2.5 times as much as the other.
I don't have much of a problem with Newton ranking ahead of Flacco. Newtons outscored Flacco in 2 of the 3 elimination weeks so far, and in the one he didn't, Flacco's score was good (35.4), but it's a week where Ryan, Locker, Luck, Schaub, RGIII, Ponder, Roethlisberger, and Dalton all went for 30+ as well. So his value for the week was really diminished because of this.
So maybe simple survival rate doesn't adequately capture QB value. I'm actually quite surprised to see how low Dalton and RG III owners are in survival rate. Dalton is also relatively uncommon (only 282 owners to start the contest) but I think he's certainly performed well enough to not be the reason his owners are getting knocked off. Same with Griffin, though he's much more commonly owned. I'm very interested to look into this a little more and see why guys like Flacco and Fitz are exhibiting high survival rates while Dalton's (and to a lesser extent, Griffin's) are so low.

Can it simply be that Flacco/Fitz owners had an extra $3-6 to spend over the Dalton/Griffin owners, which is putting them over the top? It's possible that people who splurged on a "stud" QB were more often looking in the $11 range for a backup, so they're more likely to take Flacco or Fitz than the higher-priced Dalton or Griffin, but again, all of these guys have performed well enough over the past three weeks to not be a problem for their owners, so I have a hard time believing that's what's going on here.
I think the problem with survival rates is that it's TOO all inclusive. You're assigning a team result to an individual without regard to other factors. Now I know, by selecting someone like Flacco instead of Newton you save money to spend elsewhere, but there's not way to quantify how much of the survival percentage is because of this, and how much is do to other possible reasons totally unrelated to QB selection.
I feel like whatever metric we come up with has to capture the fact that most of the high-priced "studs" aren't living up to their price (so a guy like Brady probably shouldn't end up near the top), has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Flacco and Fitz are putting up stud-like points over the past few weeks and have the survival rates to show for it, but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it.

Hmm...
I agree that the "studs" haven't lived up to their prices yet (at least QB's). It's just another piece of evidence that shows that just because it's happened last year (or the year before or the year before that) doesn't mean that it's the only way it could happen.
 
So I can appreciate that the conclusion is not confirmed, but the thought process going into supporting 2 kickers was off in some responses by others.
I wasn't supporting 2 kickers, I was unsupporting blindly supporting 3 kickers because of survival %.
 
These are acceptable considerations. I actually provided potential arguments against this being conclusive, but someone wasn't willing to use one of those in support of his claims. The only way you can say that actual kicker score is a better measure than team score in the 2 kicker vs. 3 kicker debate is that the samples are skewed by the selection of other components. Because assuming similar values per kicker, the 2 kicker teams should have more money to spend elsewhere. And the only rationale for 2 kickers being better at this point is if there is only a negligible increase in kicker scoring for 3 and this is outweighed elsewhere. Effectively, a lot of people picking 2 kickers also are not very good at picking the rest of their team. To be clear: this is not saying that 2 kickers is not optimal - it may very well be - just that because so many people are picking 2 kickers there are a lot of junk entries included in the 2 kicker sample. Which is something I mentioned as a possible argument on the last page of the thread.So I can appreciate that the conclusion is not confirmed, but the thought process going into supporting 2 kickers was off in some responses by others.
:thumbup: Think I pretty much agree with everything you've said.
 
but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it. Hmm...
Anyone drafting a Bengal probably bungeled the rest of their roster. :ph34r:
:thumbdown: :boxing:Anyway perhaps most of the people who picked Dalton has him backing up a more expensive QB and the total $ invested at the QB position is what's hurting their survival rate?-QG
I posted that just for you. :football:
 
but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it. Hmm...
Anyone drafting a Bengal probably bungeled the rest of their roster. :ph34r:
:thumbdown: :boxing:Anyway perhaps most of the people who picked Dalton has him backing up a more expensive QB and the total $ invested at the QB position is what's hurting their survival rate?-QG
I posted that just for you. :football:
Heh. I kinda figured :) -QG
 
Man, you guys are getting really deep here. I have to confess that I've just scanned posts since my last one. Too much information for me to process. All I know is that no one has contributed all 4 weeks; only Blackmon, Britt, and Driver have yet to contribute at all. And I'm still alive.

As for LHUCKS' question about the odds of Tannehill contributing over Stafford, granted it's a small sample size, but this year it appears to be 50%.

 
(ETA: I was writing this before your latest post, Modog, so don't take this to refer to the last set of values you just posted.)

I still think we might be doing a lot of work for very little insight, though.
Maybe, but isn't that kinda what we do around here...

Going back to the Newton/Flacco comparison, we can just eyeball the table of player scores and guess that $11 Flacco has probably provided more "value" than $28 Newton. So we try to devise metrics that pick up on this, but we already have one - survival rate of teams with those players. Flacco owners have survived at a much greater rate than Newton owners, which is what we would guess would happen when you have two players that have performed about the same but one costs 2.5 times as much as the other.
I don't have much of a problem with Newton ranking ahead of Flacco. Newtons outscored Flacco in 2 of the 3 elimination weeks so far, and in the one he didn't, Flacco's score was good (35.4), but it's a week where Ryan, Locker, Luck, Schaub, RGIII, Ponder, Roethlisberger, and Dalton all went for 30+ as well. So his value for the week was really diminished because of this.
So maybe simple survival rate doesn't adequately capture QB value. I'm actually quite surprised to see how low Dalton and RG III owners are in survival rate. Dalton is also relatively uncommon (only 282 owners to start the contest) but I think he's certainly performed well enough to not be the reason his owners are getting knocked off. Same with Griffin, though he's much more commonly owned. I'm very interested to look into this a little more and see why guys like Flacco and Fitz are exhibiting high survival rates while Dalton's (and to a lesser extent, Griffin's) are so low.

Can it simply be that Flacco/Fitz owners had an extra $3-6 to spend over the Dalton/Griffin owners, which is putting them over the top? It's possible that people who splurged on a "stud" QB were more often looking in the $11 range for a backup, so they're more likely to take Flacco or Fitz than the higher-priced Dalton or Griffin, but again, all of these guys have performed well enough over the past three weeks to not be a problem for their owners, so I have a hard time believing that's what's going on here.
I think the problem with survival rates is that it's TOO all inclusive. You're assigning a team result to an individual without regard to other factors. Now I know, by selecting someone like Flacco instead of Newton you save money to spend elsewhere, but there's not way to quantify how much of the survival percentage is because of this, and how much is do to other possible reasons totally unrelated to QB selection.
I feel like whatever metric we come up with has to capture the fact that most of the high-priced "studs" aren't living up to their price (so a guy like Brady probably shouldn't end up near the top), has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Flacco and Fitz are putting up stud-like points over the past few weeks and have the survival rates to show for it, but also has to capture the fact that cheaper guys like Dalton are also putting up stud-like points but for whatever reason don't have the survival rates to show for it.

Hmm...
I agree that the "studs" haven't lived up to their prices yet (at least QB's). It's just another piece of evidence that shows that just because it's happened last year (or the year before or the year before that) doesn't mean that it's the only way it could happen.
One of the biggest problems we have right now is sample size. The thing with the bolded argument above is Newton scored 12 points that week and your saying 9 other Qbs scored 30+. To me that is a huge issue. The rest of your team is now responsible for making up 20+ points that you lost at QB. I would rather have a QB that is a constant 24 points a week for the first 13 weeks then someone who has 35 one week and 12 the next. Those 12 point weeks will kill you, especially if a third of the qb field scored 20 more points then your qb. But in the last 3 weeks you want that qb who can bust out almost a 40 point week because that is how you win in the end. It kind of comes back to are you building a team to make the finals or a team that is more boom or bust, but could win in the finals. Me personally I took Stafford and Flacco. A lot of people would argue I have too much invested in my Qb's, $38. But the reason I took the two of them is I expect Stafford to have some huge weeks and Flacco to have a steady average of around 20 - 25 points a week. So far Stafford has been a bust and Flacco has been saving me, so what do I know. I have a small roster where I tried to take safe guys or boom guys. I doubt I will make it thru the first 13 weeks, but if I do I feel like I have enough guys with good upside to do some damage, hopefully the safe guys of the world like Flacco can get me there.

 
I don't have much of a problem with Newton ranking ahead of Flacco. Newtons outscored Flacco in 2 of the 3 elimination weeks so far, and in the one he didn't, Flacco's score was good (35.4), but it's a week where Ryan, Locker, Luck, Schaub, RGIII, Ponder, Roethlisberger, and Dalton all went for 30+ as well. So his value for the week was really diminished because of this.
First, I'd say "good" is an understatement for Flacco's 35.4 score. It was the third-highest QB score that week. Pointing out that 8 other QBs also put up 30+ says way more about Newton's value that week than it does about Flacco's. Newton was was the 24th best QB with a total of 12.70. When you only spend $11 on a QB, you expect and can afford for him to occasionally put up a stinker like that, either because you have other capable QBs on your roster or you're better at the other skill positions. When you drop $28 on a QB, you can't really afford for him to disappear like that. That's where the "value" or "bang for your buck" part comes in - comparing Newton's and Flacco's production is meaningless unless you somehow factor in that Newton costs 2.5 times as much as Flacco.
I think the problem with survival rates is that it's TOO all inclusive. You're assigning a team result to an individual without regard to other factors. Now I know, by selecting someone like Flacco instead of Newton you save money to spend elsewhere, but there's not way to quantify how much of the survival percentage is because of this, and how much is do to other possible reasons totally unrelated to QB selection.
This is true, of course. For all intents and purposes, though, it's impossible to separate QB value from the many other factors that affect survival. Flacco owners have survived at a 63% clip - that's partly due to Flacco's performance this year, partly due to the fact that Flacco's price allowed his owners to spend more at other positions (either by buying more players or "better" players), and partly due to things wholly unrelated to choosing Flacco. But I'm making the simplifying assumption that those things that are unrelated to QB selection are going to (roughly) even out in the wash. There are things affecting Newton owners' survival rate that have nothing to do with Newton, and things affecting Brees owners' survival rate that have nothing to do with Brees, etc. We'll never be able to extricate all the individual components, and if we did we might end up with nonsenical results when we roll them all back up (e.g. optimal strategy dictates a 37-man roster costing $400). I think when we look at overall survival rate, it gives us a good (not perfect) snapshot of the relative value the players have provided to their teams. Flacco owners have survived better than Newton owners, partly because Flacco vastly outproduced Newton in a week when QB scoring was high across the board, but also partly because Flacco owners had an extra $17 to spend, and partly because of __________? I don't know that whatever goes in that blank is vastly different for Flacco owners and owners of other QBs. So I think if we're trying to nail down QB "value", survival rates do a decent job of illustrating overall value - not just in terms of point production, but in the other options that come along with selecting each QB.
 
One of the biggest problems we have right now is sample size. The thing with the bolded argument above is Newton scored 12 points that week and your saying 9 other Qbs scored 30+. To me that is a huge issue. The rest of your team is now responsible for making up 20+ points that you lost at QB.
The idea is that you have another QB other than Newton. And it isn't so much that 9 other QB's scored 30+ as much as which 9 other QB's scored 30+. Players like Luck, Ponder, Griffin ect are players that are likely to be paired with more "studly" QB's. It should diminish what Flacco gives you that week because a lot of other QB's gave you similar production. So you don't need to make up 20 points at QB, because it's likely that your team benefited from this "backup" qbs.
I would rather have a QB that is a constant 24 points a week for the first 13 weeks then someone who has 35 one week and 12 the next. Those 12 point weeks will kill you, especially if a third of the qb field scored 20 more points then your qb. But in the last 3 weeks you want that qb who can bust out almost a 40 point week because that is how you win in the end. It kind of comes back to are you building a team to make the finals or a team that is more boom or bust, but could win in the finals.
Not sure your point. Flacco had a 16 point week. Sure it's more than 12, but it's not like Flacco is putting up 20-25+ every week either. Volatility is there for every QB.
Me personally I took Stafford and Flacco. A lot of people would argue I have too much invested in my Qb's, $38.
I don't think too many people would argue that. It's only what, $4 more than what Rodgers + Tannehill would have cost you.
But the reason I took the two of them is I expect Stafford to have some huge weeks and Flacco to have a steady average of around 20 - 25 points a week.
Okay, it's a viable strategy. But again I point out that Flacco had a below week (16.6 in week 2).
So far Stafford has been a bust and Flacco has been saving me, so what do I know. I have a small roster where I tried to take safe guys or boom guys. I doubt I will make it thru the first 13 weeks, but if I do I feel like I have enough guys with good upside to do some damage, hopefully the safe guys of the world like Flacco can get me there.
Maybe, I'm missing your point because I don't really see one (not trying to be a jerk, really I just don't see what you're getting at here). All I said was that I don't have a problem with Newton being ranked (in terms of value) ahead of Flacco because a) they both have had 2 good weeks in elimination weeks and 1 sub 20 point week, and b) in Flacco's best week, he wasn't that "valuable" despite his high score, because there were several other low cost alternatives that produced similiarly, and many of them were probably paired with the high cost studs. That's not the case in either of Newtons 2 good weeks. I guess my point is that you took Flacco as your "safe" QB in case of your stud qb faltering. In that particular week, his value isn't very high because alot of "safe" QB's produced equally. The sample size is indeed small, but as of right not it's all we have to work with. Will the results change, absolutely.
 
I think when we look at overall survival rate, it gives us a good (not perfect) snapshot of the relative value the players have provided to their teams. Flacco owners have survived better than Newton owners, partly because Flacco vastly outproduced Newton in a week when QB scoring was high across the board, but also partly because Flacco owners had an extra $17 to spend, and partly because of __________? I don't know that whatever goes in that blank is vastly different for Flacco owners and owners of other QBs. So I think if we're trying to nail down QB "value", survival rates do a decent job of illustrating overall value - not just in terms of point production, but in the other options that come along with selecting each QB.
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I was just kind of looking to see who has outperformed their cost and who has underperformed their cost to this point.....not even how it really relates to "surviving"....I looked at their "cost" as being like their ADP or drafted slot so to speak....it's pretty easy to just kind of see this in general, but I thought since there is an actual dollar figure attached to each player that there might be some way to see actual "value"...and how valuable one player has been compared to another just based on points alone, not "surviving"...obviously guys like Andre Roberts, Amendola, etc seem to be giving you more than what you actually paid for, I just didn't know if there was a formula that could accurately put it in comparison to all other players....I think what Broadway G did ws kind of it....Rodgers was priced as the QB1....but total points wise he is playing at QB12.....thanks for all your guys work....
I was interested in this too after reading your post, so I copied BroadwayG's numbers and compared each player's actual performance vs. their "ADP" (based on cost). I used PPG (only for bye weeks) as I felt it gave a more accurate portrayal than total points. This is sorted by the players who have outperformed their ADP (cost) the most to least. Players that are closest to zero in difference are performing about where they were expected to, based on cost.Thanks to BroadwayG for the numbers to start from.QB:
POS PLAYER           PRICE PPG ADP ACTUAL DIFF1_QB Ryan Fitzpatrick $11 27.79 QB20 QB5 151_QB Joe Flacco       $11 26.51 QB20 QB7 131_QB Kevin Kolb       $7 21.28 QB29 QB16 131_QB Robert Griffin I $17 31.18 QB13 QB2 111_QB Matt Ryan       $19 32.73 QB10 QB1 91_QB Andy Dalton     $14 26.29 QB17 QB8 91_QB Andrew Luck     $11 24.10 QB20 QB12 81_QB Ben Roethlisberg $18 30.80 QB11 QB4 71_QB Ryan Tannehill   $4 14.98 QB37 QB30 71_QB Matt Cassel     $9 19.90 QB24 QB18 61_QB Blaine Gabbert   $6 16.20 QB32 QB26 61_QB Matt Hasselbeck $3 5.03 QB38 QB32 61_QB Christian Ponder $9 18.95 QB24 QB20 41_QB Matt Schaub     $13 21.74 QB18 QB15 31_QB Tarvaris Jackson $3 0.00 QB38 QB36 21_QB Peyton Manning   $18 25.05 QB11 QB10 11_QB Mark Sanchez     $7 15.76 QB29 QB28 11_QB Chad Henne       $5 0.29 QB36 QB35 11_QB Drew Brees       $29 30.85 QB3 QB3 01_QB Eli Manning     $21 25.08 QB8 QB9 -11_QB Carson Palmer   $15 20.31 QB16 QB17 -11_QB Jake Locker     $9 16.44 QB24 QB25 -11_QB Tim Tebow       $6 0.94 QB32 QB34 -21_QB Alex Smith       $12 18.25 QB19 QB22 -31_QB Tom Brady       $30 27.11 QB2 QB6 -41_QB Brandon Weeden   $8 14.24 QB27 QB31 -41_QB John Skelton     $7 1.41 QB29 QB33 -41_QB David Garrard   $6 0.00 QB32 QB36 -41_QB Matt Moore       $6 0.00 QB32 QB36 -41_QB Sam Bradford     $10 15.64 QB23 QB29 -61_QB Cam Newton       $28 24.84 QB4 QB11 -71_QB Michael Vick     $22 22.40 QB7 QB14 -71_QB Matt Flynn       $8 0.00 QB27 QB36 -91_QB Jay Cutler       $17 16.61 QB13 QB24 -111_QB Aaron Rodgers   $31 23.58 QB1 QB13 -121_QB Josh Freeman     $16 15.93 QB15 QB27 -121_QB Matthew Stafford $26 19.75 QB5 QB19 -141_QB Tony Romo       $20 18.13 QB9 QB23 -141_QB Philip Rivers   $23 18.44 QB6 QB21 -15
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POS PLAYER           PRICE PPG ADP ACTUAL DIFF2_RB Jackie Battle   $2 12.13 RB81 RB19 622_RB Cedric Benson   $3 12.10 RB72 RB20 522_RB James Casey     $2 6.55 RB81 RB39 422_RB Ronnie Brown     $2 5.88 RB81 RB41 402_RB Dexter McCluster $3 7.58 RB72 RB34 382_RB Lance Ball       $2 4.18 RB81 RB53 282_RB C.J. Spiller     $15 19.75 RB31 RB4 272_RB Mike Tolbert     $4 6.73 RB62 RB38 242_RB Lamar Miller     $3 4.65 RB72 RB48 242_RB Danny Woodhead   $5 6.90 RB60 RB37 232_RB Michael Bush     $10 10.40 RB41 RB22 192_RB Willis McGahee   $16 15.88 RB28 RB11 172_RB Stevan Ridley   $16 15.50 RB28 RB12 162_RB Evan Royster     $3 3.60 RB72 RB56 162_RB Pierre Thomas   $10 9.03 RB41 RB26 152_RB Mikel Leshoure   $9 8.43 RB44 RB30 142_RB Jason Snelling   $2 2.08 RB81 RB67 142_RB Marshawn Lynch   $19 16.58 RB20 RB7 132_RB Jonathan Dwyer   $4 4.47 RB62 RB49 132_RB Ben Tate         $12 9.38 RB37 RB25 122_RB Brian Leonard   $2 1.23 RB81 RB69 122_RB Marcel Reece     $6 6.20 RB51 RB40 112_RB Justin Forsett   $2 0.88 RB81 RB70 112_RB Reggie Bush     $20 16.53 RB18 RB8 102_RB Jacquizz Rodgers $10 8.33 RB41 RB31 102_RB Bilal Powell     $4 4.23 RB62 RB52 102_RB Bernard Pierce   $3 2.70 RB72 RB62 102_RB Kendall Hunter   $6 5.83 RB51 RB42 92_RB Kevin Smith     $12 8.53 RB37 RB29 82_RB LaRod Stephens-H $3 2.38 RB72 RB64 82_RB Jamaal Charles   $24 20.30 RB10 RB3 72_RB Michael Turner   $18 14.15 RB23 RB16 72_RB BenJarvus Green- $17 12.80 RB25 RB18 72_RB Mike Goodson     $6 5.70 RB51 RB44 72_RB Frank Gore       $19 15.13 RB20 RB14 62_RB DeAngelo William $15 8.93 RB31 RB27 42_RB Maurice Jones-Dr $25 17.13 RB9 RB6 32_RB Deji Karim       $2 0.00 RB81 RB78 32_RB Taiwan Jones     $2 0.00 RB81 RB78 32_RB Darren Sproles   $23 15.98 RB12 RB10 22_RB Daniel Thomas   $8 5.58 RB48 RB46 22_RB Ray Rice         $33 22.28 RB2 RB1 12_RB Adrian Peterson $21 15.40 RB14 RB13 12_RB Leon Washington $3 0.73 RB72 RB71 12_RB Trent Richardson $28 18.35 RB5 RB5 02_RB Arian Foster     $34 20.35 RB1 RB2 -12_RB LeRon McClain   $4 2.28 RB62 RB65 -32_RB Robert Turbin   $6 3.85 RB51 RB55 -42_RB Danny Ware       $4 2.23 RB62 RB66 -42_RB DeMarco Murray   $24 14.28 RB10 RB15 -52_RB LeSean McCoy     $32 16.08 RB3 RB9 -62_RB Ryan Williams   $12 5.75 RB37 RB43 -62_RB Montario Hardest $3 0.00 RB72 RB78 -62_RB LaMichael James $3 0.00 RB72 RB78 -62_RB Doug Martin     $21 11.00 RB14 RB21 -72_RB Donald Brown     $19 8.80 RB20 RB28 -82_RB Darren McFadden $26 13.80 RB8 RB17 -92_RB Isaac Redman     $18 7.90 RB23 RB32 -92_RB LeGarrette Bloun $6 2.90 RB51 RB60 -92_RB Javon Ringer     $4 0.35 RB62 RB74 -122_RB Felix Jones     $9 3.53 RB44 RB57 -132_RB Toby Gerhart     $13 4.30 RB35 RB51 -162_RB Rashard Mendenha $4 0.00 RB62 RB78 -162_RB Delone Carter   $4 0.00 RB62 RB78 -162_RB Dion Lewis       $4 0.00 RB62 RB78 -162_RB Matt Forte       $27 9.73 RB6 RB23 -172_RB Peyton Hillis   $14 4.40 RB33 RB50 -172_RB Chris Johnson   $27 9.38 RB6 RB24 -182_RB Shonn Greene     $20 7.00 RB18 RB36 -182_RB Brandon Jacobs   $5 0.00 RB60 RB78 -182_RB Jonathan Stewart $16 4.90 RB28 RB47 -192_RB Steven Jackson   $22 7.83 RB13 RB33 -202_RB Ahmad Bradshaw   $21 7.40 RB14 RB35 -212_RB Mark Ingram     $14 3.98 RB33 RB54 -212_RB Shane Vereen     $6 0.38 RB51 RB73 -222_RB Ronnie Hillman   $11 2.53 RB40 RB63 -232_RB Isaiah Pead     $6 0.35 RB51 RB74 -232_RB Rashad Jennings $9 1.75 RB44 RB68 -242_RB Joe McKnight     $7 0.35 RB49 RB74 -252_RB Chris Wells     $13 2.75 RB35 RB61 -262_RB Alex Green       $6 0.05 RB51 RB77 -262_RB Jahvid Best     $6 0.00 RB51 RB78 -272_RB Bernard Scott   $4 -0.13 RB62 RB89 -272_RB David Wilson     $9 0.53 RB44 RB72 -282_RB Tim Hightower   $7 0.00 RB49 RB78 -292_RB Roy Helu         $17 2.93 RB25 RB59 -342_RB Ryan Mathews     $30 5.70 RB4 RB44 -402_RB Fred Jackson     $21 3.10 RB14 RB58 -442_RB James Starks     $17 0.00 RB25 RB78 -53
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POS PLAYER           PRICE PPG ADP ACTUAL DIFF3_WR Andre Roberts   $3 15.85 WR83 WR16 673_WR Jacoby Jones     $2 8.00 WR113 WR55 583_WR James Jones     $3 13.28 WR83 WR28 553_WR Danny Amendola   $6 19.73 WR56 WR4 523_WR Kevin Ogletree   $3 13.00 WR83 WR32 513_WR Brian Hartline   $6 19.13 WR56 WR9 473_WR Damian Williams $2 5.60 WR113 WR72 413_WR Jeremy Kerley   $3 10.43 WR83 WR43 403_WR Eddie Royal     $2 5.43 WR113 WR74 393_WR Brad Smith       $2 4.15 WR113 WR80 333_WR Donald Jones     $4 10.55 WR74 WR42 323_WR Cecil Shorts     $3 8.45 WR83 WR52 313_WR Devin Aromashodu $2 4.10 WR113 WR82 313_WR Armon Binns     $3 8.43 WR83 WR53 303_WR Leonard Hankerso $4 9.28 WR74 WR47 273_WR Mario Manningham $4 9.18 WR74 WR48 263_WR Reggie Wayne     $15 19.47 WR31 WR6 253_WR Mike Wallace     $16 19.50 WR28 WR5 233_WR Louis Murphy     $2 3.20 WR113 WR90 233_WR Lance Moore     $11 14.93 WR41 WR20 213_WR Davone Bess     $6 12.43 WR56 WR35 213_WR Donnie Avery     $5 9.58 WR67 WR46 213_WR Josh Morgan     $3 6.88 WR83 WR62 213_WR Donald Driver   $2 2.73 WR113 WR92 213_WR Torrey Smith     $16 17.13 WR28 WR11 173_WR Kendall Wright   $6 11.20 WR56 WR39 173_WR Dwayne Bowe     $17 19.30 WR24 WR8 163_WR Nate Burleson   $8 12.65 WR49 WR33 163_WR Kevin Walter     $4 7.03 WR74 WR61 133_WR Mohamed Massaquo $3 5.88 WR83 WR70 133_WR Mike Thomas     $2 1.45 WR113 WR101 123_WR Antonio Brown   $17 16.43 WR24 WR13 113_WR Kyle Williams   $2 1.20 WR113 WR104 93_WR Jonathan Baldwin $4 6.20 WR74 WR66 83_WR Michael Jenkins $3 5.00 WR83 WR75 83_WR Early Doucet     $3 4.73 WR83 WR76 73_WR A.J. Green       $22 22.23 WR7 WR1 63_WR Eric Decker     $17 15.55 WR24 WR18 63_WR Devin Hester     $3 4.48 WR83 WR77 63_WR Alshon Jeffery   $6 8.60 WR56 WR51 53_WR Victor Cruz     $22 20.70 WR7 WR3 43_WR Santonio Holmes $15 13.30 WR31 WR27 43_WR Anquan Boldin   $12 12.55 WR38 WR34 43_WR Harry Douglas   $3 4.20 WR83 WR79 43_WR Mike Williams   $11 11.23 WR41 WR38 33_WR Clyde Gates     $2 0.50 WR113 WR110 33_WR Roddy White     $23 21.58 WR4 WR2 23_WR Randall Cobb     $9 9.75 WR47 WR45 23_WR Joseph Morgan   $3 4.13 WR83 WR81 23_WR Miles Austin     $20 16.50 WR13 WR12 13_WR DeSean Jackson   $18 14.95 WR19 WR19 03_WR Josh Gordon     $3 4.08 WR83 WR83 03_WR Brandon Lloyd   $18 14.93 WR19 WR20 -13_WR Nate Washington $12 11.20 WR38 WR39 -13_WR Percy Harvin     $20 16.33 WR13 WR15 -23_WR Malcom Floyd     $13 11.50 WR35 WR37 -23_WR Jason Avant     $5 5.95 WR67 WR69 -23_WR A.J. Jenkins     $2 0.00 WR113 WR115 -23_WR Danny Coale     $2 0.00 WR113 WR115 -23_WR Jason Hill       $2 0.00 WR113 WR115 -23_WR Nick Toon       $2 0.00 WR113 WR115 -23_WR Ryan Broyles     $2 0.00 WR113 WR115 -23_WR Brandon Marshall $22 17.55 WR7 WR10 -33_WR Michael Crabtree $11 10.20 WR41 WR44 -33_WR Brandon LaFell   $10 9.18 WR44 WR48 -43_WR Calvin Johnson   $29 19.33 WR1 WR7 -63_WR Vincent Jackson $19 14.60 WR17 WR23 -63_WR Golden Tate     $7 7.58 WR52 WR58 -63_WR Chaz Schilens   $3 3.23 WR83 WR89 -63_WR Demaryius Thom $22 16.38 WR7 WR14 -73_WR Marques Colston $19 14.08 WR17 WR24 -73_WR Emmanuel Sanders $7 7.37 WR52 WR59 -73_WR Stephen Hill     $6 6.48 WR56 WR63 -73_WR Chris Givens     $3 2.28 WR83 WR94 -113_WR Steve Johnson   $18 13.13 WR19 WR31 -123_WR Wes Welker       $23 15.75 WR4 WR17 -133_WR Devery Henderson $4 3.35 WR74 WR87 -133_WR Josh Cribbs     $3 1.98 WR83 WR97 -143_WR Lestar Jean     $3 1.88 WR83 WR98 -153_WR Jordy Nelson     $20 13.25 WR13 WR29 -163_WR Titus Young     $10 7.08 WR44 WR60 -163_WR Santana Moss     $8 6.43 WR49 WR65 -163_WR Laurent Robinson $6 5.60 WR56 WR72 -163_WR Arrelious Benn   $3 1.78 WR83 WR99 -163_WR Steve Smith     $20 13.20 WR13 WR30 -173_WR Dez Bryant       $18 11.98 WR19 WR36 -173_WR Greg Little     $12 7.98 WR38 WR56 -183_WR Earl Bennett     $5 3.55 WR67 WR86 -193_WR Mohamed Sanu     $4 2.41 WR74 WR93 -193_WR Larry Fitzgerald $25 14.63 WR2 WR22 -203_WR Juron Criner     $3 1.23 WR83 WR103 -203_WR Julio Jones     $23 14.00 WR4 WR25 -213_WR Jerricho Cotcher $3 1.17 WR83 WR105 -223_WR Andre Johnson   $24 13.70 WR3 WR26 -233_WR Deion Branch     $3 0.78 WR83 WR106 -233_WR Sidney Rice     $14 7.80 WR33 WR57 -243_WR Steve Smith     $5 3.00 WR67 WR91 -243_WR Legedu Naanee   $3 0.73 WR83 WR107 -243_WR Justin Blackmon $7 4.48 WR52 WR77 -253_WR Randy Moss       $10 5.70 WR44 WR71 -273_WR Michael Floyd   $6 3.83 WR56 WR84 -283_WR Ben Obomanu     $3 0.45 WR83 WR111 -283_WR Steve Breaston   $5 2.10 WR67 WR96 -293_WR Hakeem Nicks     $21 10.93 WR11 WR41 -303_WR Jeremy Maclin   $17 8.40 WR24 WR54 -303_WR Denarius Moore   $18 9.08 WR19 WR50 -313_WR Preston Parker   $3 0.18 WR83 WR114 -313_WR Danario Alexande $3 0.00 WR83 WR115 -323_WR David Gettis     $3 0.00 WR83 WR115 -323_WR Jerrel Jernigan $3 0.00 WR83 WR115 -323_WR Jordan Shipley   $3 0.00 WR83 WR115 -323_WR Riley Cooper     $3 0.00 WR83 WR115 -323_WR Pierre Garcon   $14 5.98 WR33 WR68 -353_WR Darrius Heyward- $16 6.20 WR28 WR66 -383_WR Rueben Randle   $4 0.35 WR74 WR112 -383_WR Chad Johnson     $4 0.00 WR74 WR115 -413_WR Jerome Simpson   $7 2.25 WR52 WR95 -433_WR Andre Caldwell   $5 0.35 WR67 WR112 -453_WR David Nelson     $6 1.28 WR56 WR102 -463_WR Jacoby Ford     $5 0.00 WR67 WR115 -483_WR Robert Meachem   $13 3.80 WR35 WR85 -503_WR Doug Baldwin     $8 1.58 WR49 WR100 -513_WR Brian Quick     $6 0.73 WR56 WR107 -513_WR Greg Jennings   $21 6.45 WR11 WR64 -533_WR Kenny Britt     $13 3.25 WR35 WR88 -533_WR Vincent Brown   $6 0.00 WR56 WR115 -593_WR Austin Collie   $9 0.53 WR47 WR109 -62
TE:

POS PLAYER           PRICE PPG ADP ACTUAL DIFF4_TE Brandon Myers   $2 11.70 TE41 TE18 234_TE Martellus Bennet $4 15.18 TE31 TE9 224_TE Heath Miller     $7 19.80 TE23 TE2 214_TE Dennis Pitta     $5 14.45 TE30 TE12 184_TE Scott Chandler   $6 14.88 TE26 TE10 164_TE Tony Gonzalez   $13 20.88 TE10 TE1 94_TE Owen Daniels     $11 15.93 TE14 TE6 84_TE Joel Dreessen   $4 7.50 TE31 TE23 84_TE Ben Watson       $4 7.08 TE31 TE24 74_TE Todd Heap       $3 5.35 TE39 TE32 74_TE Dwayne Allen     $2 4.70 TE41 TE34 74_TE Greg Olsen       $11 15.40 TE14 TE8 64_TE Kevin Boss       $2 4.25 TE41 TE35 64_TE Anthony Fasano   $6 10.00 TE26 TE21 54_TE Kellen Davis     $4 6.33 TE31 TE26 54_TE David Ausberry   $2 3.13 TE41 TE38 34_TE Brent Celek     $12 14.63 TE13 TE11 24_TE Vernon Davis     $17 16.55 TE6 TE5 14_TE Brandon Pettigre $15 15.70 TE8 TE7 14_TE Marcedes Lewis   $7 8.68 TE23 TE22 14_TE Jeff King       $2 3.00 TE41 TE40 14_TE Kyle Rudolph     $11 13.78 TE14 TE14 04_TE Zach Miller     $6 5.65 TE26 TE27 -14_TE Delanie Walker   $2 2.48 TE41 TE42 -14_TE Jimmy Graham     $29 19.70 TE1 TE3 -24_TE Rob Gronkowski   $28 18.13 TE2 TE4 -24_TE Randy McMichael $2 2.35 TE41 TE43 -24_TE Jared Cook       $11 11.75 TE14 TE17 -34_TE Leonard Pope     $2 0.55 TE41 TE45 -44_TE Tony Scheffler   $4 4.10 TE31 TE36 -54_TE Jermaine Gresham $13 12.33 TE10 TE16 -64_TE Dallas Clark     $7 5.40 TE23 TE29 -64_TE Rob Housler     $4 3.70 TE31 TE37 -64_TE John Carlson     $2 0.35 TE41 TE47 -64_TE Chris Cooley     $2 0.00 TE41 TE48 -74_TE Julius Thomas   $2 0.00 TE41 TE48 -74_TE Jermichael Finle $16 13.30 TE7 TE15 -84_TE Jason Witten     $21 14.08 TE4 TE13 -94_TE Lance Kendricks $9 5.40 TE20 TE29 -94_TE Evan Moore       $3 0.00 TE39 TE48 -94_TE Fred Davis       $14 10.95 TE9 TE19 -104_TE Jacob Tamme     $13 10.25 TE10 TE20 -104_TE Coby Fleener     $10 5.45 TE18 TE28 -104_TE Bear Pascoe     $4 2.55 TE31 TE41 -104_TE Tony Moeaki     $8 5.28 TE21 TE33 -124_TE Ed Dickson       $8 3.13 TE21 TE38 -174_TE Zach Miller     $4 0.00 TE31 TE48 -174_TE Kellen Winslow   $6 0.68 TE26 TE44 -184_TE Antonio Gates   $20 6.85 TE5 TE25 -204_TE Dustin Keller   $10 0.55 TE18 TE45 -274_TE Aaron Hernandez $23 5.35 TE3 TE31 -28
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POS PLAYER           PRICE PPG ADP ACTUAL DIFF5_PK Greg Zuerlein   $3 15.50 PK13 PK2 115_PK Lawrence Tynes   $3 12.75 PK13 PK5 85_PK Jason Hanson     $4 16.00 PK7 PK1 65_PK Blair Walsh     $3 12.50 PK13 PK7 65_PK Connor Barth     $3 12.50 PK13 PK7 65_PK Phil Dawson     $3 11.75 PK13 PK9 45_PK Matt Bryant     $4 13.00 PK7 PK4 35_PK Robbie Gould     $3 11.25 PK13 PK10 35_PK Matt Prater     $3 10.25 PK13 PK12 15_PK Mike Nugent     $3 10.25 PK13 PK12 15_PK Ryan Succop     $3 10.25 PK13 PK14 -15_PK Stephen Gostkows $6 14.50 PK1 PK3 -25_PK Jay Feely       $3 9.75 PK13 PK15 -25_PK Shaun Suisham   $3 9.67 PK13 PK16 -35_PK David Akers     $6 12.75 PK1 PK5 -45_PK Billy Cundiff   $4 10.50 PK7 PK11 -45_PK Adam Vinatieri   $3 8.33 PK13 PK20 -75_PK Steve Hauschka   $3 8.25 PK13 PK21 -85_PK Alex Henery     $4 9.50 PK7 PK17 -105_PK Josh Scobee     $3 7.50 PK13 PK24 -115_PK Rob Bironas     $3 7.25 PK13 PK25 -125_PK Dan Carpenter   $3 7.00 PK13 PK26 -135_PK Nate Kaeding     $4 8.25 PK7 PK21 -145_PK Rian Lindell     $3 5.00 PK13 PK28 -155_PK Justin Medlock   $3 3.50 PK13 PK29 -165_PK Sebastian Janiko $6 9.00 PK1 PK18 -175_PK Josh Brown       $3 0.00 PK13 PK30 -175_PK Neil Rackers     $3 0.00 PK13 PK30 -175_PK Garrett Hartley $6 8.75 PK1 PK19 -185_PK Mason Crosby     $5 7.75 PK5 PK23 -185_PK Dan Bailey       $5 6.00 PK5 PK27 -225_PK Randy Bullock   $4 0.00 PK7 PK30 -23
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POS	PLAYER          	PRICE	PPG	ADP	ACTUAL	DIFF6_TD	Washington Redsk	$3	9.25	TD23	TD4	196_TD	Cleveland Brown	        $3	8.75	TD23	TD6	176_TD	Cincinnati Benga	$3	7.75	TD23	TD12	116_TD	Arizona Cardinal	$4	10.50	TD13	TD3	106_TD	New York Jets  	        $4	8.75	TD13	TD6	76_TD	St. Louis Rams  	$3	7.00	TD23	TD16	76_TD	Minnesota Viking	$4	8.50	TD13	TD8	56_TD	Atlanta Falcons	        $4	8.50	TD13	TD8	56_TD	Chicago Bears    	$5	15.25	TD5	TD1	46_TD	Houston Texans  	$5	10.75	TD5	TD2	36_TD	Miami Dolphins  	$3	6.75	TD23	TD20	36_TD	Carolina Panther	$3	6.00	TD23	TD21	26_TD	Baltimore Raven  	$5	9.25	TD5	TD4	16_TD	San Diego Charge	$4	7.75	TD13	TD12	16_TD	Tampa Bay Buccan	$4	7.75	TD13	TD12	16_TD	New Orleans Sain	$3	5.75	TD23	TD24	-16_TD	Indianapolis Col	$3	5.67	TD23	TD25	-26_TD	New England Patr	$5	8.50	TD5	TD8	-36_TD	Seattle Seahawks	$4	7.00	TD13	TD16	-36_TD	Tennessee Titans	$4	7.00	TD13	TD16	-36_TD	Buffalo Bills   	$5	8.00	TD5	TD11	-66_TD	Kansas City Chie	$3	3.50	TD23	TD29	-66_TD	Denver Broncos  	$4	6.00	TD13	TD21	-86_TD	Jacksonville Jag	$3	2.50	TD23	TD31	-86_TD	San Francisco 49	$6	7.50	TD1	TD15	-146_TD	Green Bay Packer	$6	7.00	TD1	TD16	-156_TD	New York Giants	        $5	6.00	TD5	TD21	-166_TD	Oakland Raiders	        $4	2.25	TD13	TD32	-196_TD	Dallas Cowboys  	$5	4.25	TD5	TD27	-226_TD	Pittsburgh Steel	$5	3.67	TD5	TD28	-236_TD	Philadelphia Eag	$6	5.25	TD1	TD26	-256_TD	Detroit Lions   	$6	3.50	TD1	TD29	-28
 
First, I'd say "good" is an understatement for Flacco's 35.4 score. It was the third-highest QB score that week. Pointing out that 8 other QBs also put up 30+ says way more about Newton's value that week than it does about Flacco's. Newton was was the 24th best QB with a total of 12.70. When you only spend $11 on a QB, you expect and can afford for him to occasionally put up a stinker like that, either because you have other capable QBs on your roster or you're better at the other skill positions. When you drop $28 on a QB, you can't really afford for him to disappear like that. That's where the "value" or "bang for your buck" part comes in - comparing Newton's and Flacco's production is meaningless unless you somehow factor in that Newton costs 2.5 times as much as Flacco.
We can argue back and force on this, but it's pretty irrelevant. Plus I'm not particularly a fan of Newton and am one of Flacco so it kind of feels like cheating arguring for Newton...
I think when we look at overall survival rate, it gives us a good (not perfect) snapshot of the relative value the players have provided to their teams. Flacco owners have survived better than Newton owners, partly because Flacco vastly outproduced Newton in a week when QB scoring was high across the board, but also partly because Flacco owners had an extra $17 to spend, and partly because of __________? I don't know that whatever goes in that blank is vastly different for Flacco owners and owners of other QBs. So I think if we're trying to nail down QB "value", survival rates do a decent job of illustrating overall value - not just in terms of point production, but in the other options that come along with selecting each QB.
Sure. I agree it's a decent metric. It's got its flaws as any metric in this contest really would. Maybe it's the best, was just trying to give an alternate look because a) it might turn out to be a better metric, and b) i was bored.
 
Here's another analysis of QB's.

It's a value added metric. Basically it takes the "starting" qb for each team each week and calculates how many additional points that QB added.

For example, if a team had Brees and and Locker and Brees scored 30 points and Locker 25, Brees value added would be 5 points, and Locker would be 0.

W2 W3 W4 Total Per $Andy Dalton $14 22.36 24.99 21.97 69.32 $4.95 Robert Griffin III $17 22.71 25.10 17.48 65.28 $3.84 Ryan Fitzpatrick $11 17.16 18.51 27.43 63.09 $5.74 Joe Flacco $11 14.22 26.60 19.62 60.45 $5.50 Kevin Kolb $7 16.19 12.85 28.70 57.74 $8.25 Matt Ryan $19 16.06 17.26 18.05 51.38 $2.70 Ben Roethlisberger $18 21.21 28.44 - 49.64 $2.76 Cam Newton $28 20.22 6.28 22.01 48.50 $1.73 Drew Brees $29 18.65 10.18 19.64 48.47 $1.67 Brandon Weeden $8 23.67 11.27 11.35 46.29 $5.79 Peyton Manning $18 8.47 15.51 22.26 46.24 $2.57 Eli Manning $21 22.04 10.01 13.55 45.59 $2.17 Andrew Luck $11 20.85 23.30 - 44.15 $4.01 Christian Ponder $9 20.68 22.72 - 43.40 $4.82 Jake Locker $9 14.66 26.10 - 40.76 $4.53 Tom Brady $30 12.75 8.73 18.38 39.86 $1.33 Michael Vick $22 19.69 8.69 10.12 38.50 $1.75 Matt Cassel $9 21.16 8.13 8.62 37.91 $4.21 Carson Palmer $15 18.27 16.48 2.21 36.96 $2.46 Matt Schaub $13 1.89 26.95 7.08 35.93 $2.76 Ryan Tannehill $4 16.90 - 18.70 35.60 $8.90 Aaron Rodgers $31 8.94 6.29 18.59 33.83 $1.09 Matthew Stafford $26 12.80 9.46 7.89 30.15 $1.16 Alex Smith $12 15.55 11.42 - 26.97 $2.25 Jay Cutler $17 8.40 2.43 15.66 26.49 $1.56 Philip Rivers $23 20.73 - 4.20 24.93 $1.08 Josh Freeman $16 13.05 6.50 4.34 23.88 $1.49 Tony Romo $20 13.01 7.76 2.65 23.42 $1.17 Mark Sanchez $7 9.50 13.23 - 22.73 $3.25 Sam Bradford $10 22.43 - 0.23 22.66 $2.27 Blaine Gabbert $6 - 12.66 6.90 19.56 $3.26 Tim Tebow $6 - - - - $0.00 John Skelton $7 - - - - $0.00 Matt Flynn $8 - - - - $0.00 Matt Hasselbeck $3 - - - - $0.00 Tarvaris Jackson $3 - - - - $0.00 David Garrard $6 - - - - $0.00 Chad Henne $5 - - - - $0.00 Matt Moore $6 - - - - $0.00
Not sure what it means if anything.

 

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