***Official 2013/2014 NHL Regular Season Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Foosball God]

How many games suspension does everyone think for that low life piece of garbage thornton. And before anyone says anything, neal's move was nothing to write home about. He should probably get a game or so.

2-5 for Neal10 for Thornton. I would like to see a 25+ game suspension though, but I doubt the NHL wheel of justice hits anything north of 10.

He'll get more than 10, and rightfully so. Disgraceful.

 

[Parmcat]

I am guessing 10+ for Neal

The was blatant and vicious

Have a nice season Thornton

 

[Billy Bats]

Monday phone chat with Shanny for Neal, 5 games or less.

TBD in-person get together with Shanny and Thornton. See you sometime in 2014.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

No more free candy? I didn't see the play yet.

 

[HughHoney]

The Orpik hit early in the game that knocked L Erikson out shoulda been a penalty, just my opinion. Neal's shot on Marchand was cheap too. But that crap with Thornton, it's gotta be a really serious suspension.

Is there anybody here who can defend him? Slew foots a player who's engaged with somebody else after the play. Punches him. Then punches him and follows through with his elbow.

Who could possibly defend him?!

Are you on Twitter?

 

[jamny]

Tough loss for the Rangers. Kicked in!

 

[HughHoney]

I am guessing 10+ for Neal

The was blatant and vicious

Have a nice season Thornton

Not trying to be a homer but I really don't think Neal will get 10. We'll see tho.ETA: I think he deserves a suspension and I think he knee'd him intentionally. I watched the play multiple times and Neal is lying when he says he tried avoiding him.

 

[HughHoney]

They said Thornton was nearly in tears after the game. B's already told him he's not coming on their 4 game road trip.

 

[Parmcat]

Did anyone see the round table during the second intermission of the Leafs game. I am not a fan of PJ Stock, but he made some good points to defend having fighting in the NHL.

If Neal is only having a phone hearing, that is such a crock. He blatantly kneed a defenseless player in the head.

 

[Workhorse]

Thornton deserves to sit for a long time for that. What a gutless move. Sickening.

 

[Billy Bats]

The Orpik hit early in the game that knocked L Erikson out shoulda been a penalty, just my opinion. Neal's shot on Marchand was cheap too. But that crap with Thornton, it's gotta be a really serious suspension.

Is there anybody here who can defend him? Slew foots a player who's engaged with somebody else after the play. Punches him. Then punches him and follows through with his elbow.

Who could possibly defend him?!

Are you on Twitter?

I am, but limit who I follow to mainly the national sports scribes. I'm sure there are Internet ######s who don't have issue with what Thornton did, was just defending the local inhabitants. I'm almost certain no one who frequents here would be ok with it.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Here's Thorntons assault on Orpik.

https://vine.co/v/hQmwr2aI5BX

A gif of the punches landed by Thornton

https://vine.co/v/hQmwr2aI5BX

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Not that should matter much, but at least he has the sense to be/sound apologetic:

"Listen, I feel awful. It wasn’t my intention. I know Brooksy, I’ve gotten to know him over the last 7 years here, I skate with him in the summer, through the lockout. I’ve texted him a couple of times. I definitely feel awful. It was not what I wanted to see or what anyone wanted to see.""Obviously, I made a mistake. I’m aware of it. I’ve been told that I’ll be having a hearing and it’s hard for me to say much more other than that was not my intention. I feel awful and felt sick all game," Thornton said.

"That’s always my job, I guess, to defend my teammates, but I’ve prided myself for a long time to stay within the lines, and like I said, it’s hard for me to talk about right now. I can’t say I’m sorry enough, and I’m sure I’ll be criticized for saying it, but it’s true. I, I just hope he’s doing alright. I heard that he’s conscious and talking, and I’m happy to hear that."

Still don't know how incidents like this aren't criminal assault.

 

[Billy Bats]

Here's Thorntons assault on Orpik.

https://vine.co/v/hQmwr2aI5BX

A gif of the punches landed by Thornton

https://vine.co/v/hQmwr2aI5BX

Thanks, I haven't seen that one yet.

 

[D in the D]

Thorntons attack of Orpik was heinous, he should be looking at 20 games in the current state of the NHL.

Neal's knee was just as bad, but if the call the tripping penalty on crosby it doesnt happen. Neal should get a healthy suspension out of this as well.

People say fighting is bad for hockey and want it gone, but i think in this case if Orpik drops the gloves after his BS hit on Ericson then this thing doesnt escalate. Who knows if Neal throws a cheap knee, but the thornton on Orpik crime doesnt happen if there is a fight after Orpiks cheap hit.

 

[Nigel]

The Orpik hit early in the game that knocked L Erikson out shoulda been a penalty, just my opinion. Neal's shot on Marchand was cheap too. But that crap with Thornton, it's gotta be a really serious suspension.

Is there anybody here who can defend him? Slew foots a player who's engaged with somebody else after the play. Punches him. Then punches him and follows through with his elbow.

All true, with one thing to add. When Thornton tried to engage Orpik (Thornton dropped them, shoved Orpik...and then went off solo for roughing...) after he knocked Erikson out Orpik should have obliged. He's a big boy, and he'd just taken a shot to the head of a skilled player who'd already been concussed by a cheapshot this year. That would have closed the case.

It's too bad. Until last night I'd bet if there was a poll among players Thornton would have been regarded as one of the most respected guys n the league among those who do what he does. The guy actually has hockey skills and plays his position well, and as long as I can remember abides by the "code" as well as any enforcer. Pretty much threw that all away last night though and deserves whatever he gets.

 

[Billy Bats]

Kind of impossible to predict suspension length when Shanahan clearly shows no desire to rule with any semblance of consistency. I could see Thornton getting anywhere from 5 games to a season ban depending on what side of the bed Shanahan wakes up on tomorrow morning.

For comparison, I'm not sure how Rinaldo isn't meeting Shanny after what he did to Roussel yesterday. Essentially the same thing as Thornton, just didn't knock him out. Another ####### idiot, Rinaldo deserves the same treatment.

http://www.lfpress.com/2013/12/07/flyers-rinaldo-jumps-stars-roussel-gets-27-pim-in-4-seconds

 

[Billy Bats]

Dupuis gets Kelly on a slash and breaks his ankle. Then Kelly tries to break Dupuis' wrist in return. Quite a game last night.

https://vine.co/v/hQqmIgKw2vW

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

and he'd just taken a shot to the head of a skilled player who'd already been concussed by a cheapshot this year.

Was it to the head? Looked like he freight trained him, but caught him in the chest the one time I saw it.

ETA: Could be wrong, but looks like Orpik took him in the chest and he hit his head on the ice. Not serious enough about the NHL to know if that's a clean hit or not, but I don't think Orpik caught him high.

 

[Jack Burton]

How many games suspension does everyone think for that low life piece of garbage thornton. And before anyone says anything, neal's move was nothing to write home about. He should probably get a game or so.

Thornton had himself quite the roid rage on that one. As for Neal on Marchand ... I really enjoyed that one!

 

[Jack Burton]

#### getting ugly in Boston

Nice knee by Neal to Marchand's head, but he was probably just trying to get out of his way. He's a real pos.

https://vine.co/v/hQmUUnDgEnx

Wow, what a jackass and idiot.

Marchand's had it coming for long time now. It always cathes up with you when you spend most of the time submarining guys and cheapshots to the knees. Can only hide behind Chara, Thornton and Lucic for so long.

 

[Christo]

Not good if Crawford's out for any significant length of time.

 

[HellToupee]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

 

[Dickie Dunn]

It's really strange. Thornton and Orpik were skating together at a rink in Canton earlier this year, so they seem to know each other well.

I just think Thornton got fed up with some of the cheap stuff the Penguins were doing and not answering the bell, and he just snapped. It sucks, because that's not who he is. But he deserves whatever is coming to him from the league.

 

[GTBilly]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

Clarkson got ten for leaving a bench in a pre season game and shoving a couple of people. Might have to give more than that to Thornton.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

Clarkson got ten for leaving a bench in a pre season game and shoving a couple of people. Might have to give more than that to Thornton.

yeah. things are a bit out of whack if Thornton gets the same or less than what Clarkson got for that.

 

[HughHoney]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

What makes you say he's a scumbag?

 

[D in the D]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

Clarkson got ten for leaving a bench in a pre season game and shoving a couple of people. Might have to give more than that to Thornton.

yeah. things are a bit out of whack if Thornton gets the same or less than what Clarkson got for that.

The ten for leaving the bench is an automatic amount, I believe.

 

[Bill Brasky]

rabble rabble rabble outrage rabble rabble rabble suspend everyone

in more important news, Wild with a huge win last night before a brutal stretch of games coming up.

 

[Copeman]

There was nothing wrong with Orpik's hit on Erikson. And Orpik isn't known as a "dirty" player, where does that come from? A hard hitter, sure, but not dirty.

 

[Bill Brasky]

There was nothing wrong with Orpik's hit on Erikson.

i don't understand the complaint with that hit either. puck was in his feet, shoulder to chest.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

any hit that results in a concussion to a player who was recently out with a concussion is going to upset his teammates. I think it's kind of dumb that clean hits seem to instigate fights more often than not these days.

 

[Bill Brasky]

any hit that results in a concussion to a player who was recently out with a concussion is going to upset his teammates. I think it's kind of dumb that clean hits seem to instigate fights more often than not these days.

let me clarify by saying I don't understand the "complaint" that the Orpik hit was "dirty" or "questionable" as many are claiming.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Jesus christ, what in the #### is going on over there. Thornton deserves the book.

It was one of the worst cheap shots I have seen in a long time.

Erik Cole says...........:karma:

 

[Copeman]

any hit that results in a concussion to a player who was recently out with a concussion is going to upset his teammates. I think it's kind of dumb that clean hits seem to instigate fights more often than not these days.

let me clarify by saying I don't understand the "complaint" that the Orpik hit was "dirty" or "questionable" as many are claiming.

Yes, that is what I meant as well.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

5 game suspension for Neal

 

[Bill Brasky]

PM Bouchard flat out waived? ouch.

 

[Billy Bats]

Dreger: Should learn official salary cap projection for 2014-2015 at Board of Gov's today. Expected to be between $70 and $71 mil.

11:33am - 9 Dec 13

 

[brianj74]

10-ish games seems/feels right for Thornton.

 

[Zegras11]

Sick goal by Perry

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hdpid=49&id=506744&navid=nhl:topheads

Pretty slick pass by Winnick on Cogliano goal also.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

5 game suspension for Neal

If I understand correctly and as someone else posted, that is the most he could have gotten in the phone mode hearing. It should have been an in person imho as he has been suspended twice already and this was a blatant disregard for a defenseless player's safety. He should get 80% of what Thornton gets, but the optics are hurting Thornton and helping Neal. Marchand not hurt, known as a dirtbag player that "has this coming". Orpik taken out on stretcher unconscious, unwilling participant, already engaged, Thornton known as tough guy. The NHL is probably regretting the quick call on the phone interview as the buzz in TO is that Neal's attack was worse than Thornton's and I agree.

 

[irish eyes]

5 game suspension for Neal

If I understand correctly and as someone else posted, that is the most he could have gotten in the phone mode hearing. It should have been an in person imho as he has been suspended twice already and this was a blatant disregard for a defenseless player's safety. He should get 80% of what Thornton gets, but the optics are hurting Thornton and helping Neal. Marchand not hurt, known as a dirtbag player that "has this coming". Orpik taken out on stretcher unconscious, unwilling participant, already engaged, Thornton known as tough guy. The NHL is probably regretting the quick call on the phone interview as the buzz in TO is that Neal's attack was worse than Thornton's and I agree.

Seriously, are you kidding. Neal's was worse than Thornton's!!! That is freakin ridiculous, you truly have no clue.

 

[guru_007]

Thornton should get 20 games minimum, imo.

Neal was a cheap shot, but Thornton was a flat out assault.

 

[Copeman]

5 game suspension for Neal

If I understand correctly and as someone else posted, that is the most he could have gotten in the phone mode hearing. It should have been an in person imho as he has been suspended twice already and this was a blatant disregard for a defenseless player's safety. He should get 80% of what Thornton gets, but the optics are hurting Thornton and helping Neal. Marchand not hurt, known as a dirtbag player that "has this coming". Orpik taken out on stretcher unconscious, unwilling participant, already engaged, Thornton known as tough guy. The NHL is probably regretting the quick call on the phone interview as the buzz in TO is that Neal's attack was worse than Thornton's and I agree.

Seriously, are you kidding. Neal's was worse than Thornton's!!! That is freakin ridiculous, you truly have no clue.

Seriously. I had to read that a few times to make sure I read that correctly. Wow.

 

[tom22406]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: TOR's Dion Phaneuf gets a two-game suspension.

 

[HughHoney]

5 game suspension for Neal

If I understand correctly and as someone else posted, that is the most he could have gotten in the phone mode hearing. It should have been an in person imho as he has been suspended twice already and this was a blatant disregard for a defenseless player's safety. He should get 80% of what Thornton gets, but the optics are hurting Thornton and helping Neal. Marchand not hurt, known as a dirtbag player that "has this coming". Orpik taken out on stretcher unconscious, unwilling participant, already engaged, Thornton known as tough guy. The NHL is probably regretting the quick call on the phone interview as the buzz in TO is that Neal's attack was worse than Thornton's and I agree.

Can you point me to some of "the buzz in TO" that says Neal's DIRTY, CHEAP HIT was worse than Thornton's ATTACK?

Maybe you're fishing with that post.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

PM Bouchard flat out waived? ouch.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 5m

NYI Pierre-Marc Bouchard clears waivers.

Sabres could probably use him.

 

[Workhorse]

Thornton should get 20 games minimum, imo.

Neal was a cheap shot, but Thornton was a flat out assault.

Agreed.

League needs to send a HUGE message that even though Thornton is generally regarded as a good guy who plays the game the right way, there's no place in the NHL for that kind of crap.

 

[GTBilly]

8-10 games for Thornton

3-5 for Neal

Orpik has been a scumbag since his Boston College days & has had a market correction coming to him . Too bad it was this .

Clarkson got ten for leaving a bench in a pre season game and shoving a couple of people. Might have to give more than that to Thornton.

yeah. things are a bit out of whack if Thornton gets the same or less than what Clarkson got for that.

The ten for leaving the bench is an automatic amount, I believe.

You are correct.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

yes it's automatic. punching a player repeatedly in the face while he lays prone on the ice without trying to defend himself should also be worth a longer suspension.