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***Official 2013 Chicago Bears Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Not sure what you wanted. If Cutler coming out and tearing it up immediately was what what you wanted, that was never going to happen

 
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Same old, same old. He was forcing balls to Marshall and having them turn into INT's even before his injury.

It takes all 11 players to win a football game. At times, it looks like it's just Cutler and Marshall. And it leads to losses.

 
I was one of the few for the Cutler move, but I didn't think he would come out very sharp. The move had to be made. He was never going to stay on the bench. He hasn't been great until this point but it's tied. McCown never had a chance to stay the starter. McCown isn't Peyton Manning. They were averaging 21pts a game before Dallas.

 
That's great. But, if you are Cutler, you need to understand the game. This is not the Bears of old, and you are not Rex Grossman. Your defense is playing poorly and as the QB of the team, you need to minimize mistakes. McCown minimized mistakes which led to winning games.

Right now, there are two people that don't understand this. The head coach and the starting QB.

 
I can understand both sides of the argument. I'm not completely disagreeing with you.

 
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The Bears are easily the best team in the NFL. I've been saying all year that they would win it all, and they keep proving me right. Man, that was one hell of a prediction, but it's looking pretty brilliant so far.

 
KCitons said:
That's great. But, if you are Cutler, you need to understand the game. This is not the Bears of old, and you are not Rex Grossman. Your defense is playing poorly and as the QB of the team, you need to minimize mistakes. McCown minimized mistakes which led to winning games.

Right now, there are two people that don't understand this. The head coach and the starting QB.
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Mccown went 3-2. He didn't run off 8 straight wins or something crazy. The defense is playing poorly, therefore, you need to score touchdowns, which means mistakes are going to happen now and then. Cutler gives them a better chance now and in the long-term. Once the defense is solidified, Cutler can play it a little more safely.

 
ryno1980 said:
KCitons said:
That's great. But, if you are Cutler, you need to understand the game. This is not the Bears of old, and you are not Rex Grossman. Your defense is playing poorly and as the QB of the team, you need to minimize mistakes. McCown minimized mistakes which led to winning games.

Right now, there are two people that don't understand this. The head coach and the starting QB.
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Mccown went 3-2. He didn't run off 8 straight wins or something crazy. The defense is playing poorly, therefore, you need to score touchdowns, which means mistakes are going to happen now and then. Cutler gives them a better chance now and in the long-term. Once the defense is solidified, Cutler can play it a little more safely.
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It wasn't that Culter wasn't playing it safe. Early in the game he wasn't throwing the ball well at all. All the interceptions were bad throws. That has been his pattern at times. He tries to fit balls in to tiny windows. Yesterday, in the first half at least, he was just throwing the ball poorly. His passes were sailing, and he was just missing the target. My biggest concern, long term with Cutler, is his inability to stay healthy. I am just glad the Bears won the game.

And I will say this, Alshon Jeffrey amazes me every week. He may not end up as good as Calvin Johnson, but he may be in the team picture. He has that type of ability. Some of the catches he is making are just ridiculous. He may turn out to be the best Bear receiver ever. The catch he made yesterday, while being double-covered, was terrific. He has a tremendous my ball mentality. And his hands are just incredible. In the next few years he should definitely be in the class with AJ Green, Julio Jones, and Josh Gordon, the elite up and coming young receivers. I am going to really enjoy watching him play. I think he has surpassed Marshall as the Bears #1 already. I think teams are going to start rolling coverage to him.

 
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IheartGuinness said:
The Bears are easily the best team in the NFL. I've been saying all year that they would win it all, and they keep proving me right. Man, that was one hell of a prediction, but it's looking pretty brilliant so far.
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you need a bigger boat

 
ryno1980 said:
KCitons said:
That's great. But, if you are Cutler, you need to understand the game. This is not the Bears of old, and you are not Rex Grossman. Your defense is playing poorly and as the QB of the team, you need to minimize mistakes. McCown minimized mistakes which led to winning games.

Right now, there are two people that don't understand this. The head coach and the starting QB.
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Mccown went 3-2. He didn't run off 8 straight wins or something crazy. The defense is playing poorly, therefore, you need to score touchdowns, which means mistakes are going to happen now and then. Cutler gives them a better chance now and in the long-term. Once the defense is solidified, Cutler can play it a little more safely.
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I guess we just approach this differently. Both McCown and Cutler have won and lost games. All too often, it appears that Jay's mistakes are the reason for the loss. Luckily, the defense stepped up yesterday.

 
Wrigley said:
IheartGuinness said:
The Bears are easily the best team in the NFL. I've been saying all year that they would win it all, and they keep proving me right. Man, that was one hell of a prediction, but it's looking pretty brilliant so far.
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you need a bigger boat
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I like the "easily" part.

 
KCitons said:
ryno1980 said:
KCitons said:
That's great. But, if you are Cutler, you need to understand the game. This is not the Bears of old, and you are not Rex Grossman. Your defense is playing poorly and as the QB of the team, you need to minimize mistakes. McCown minimized mistakes which led to winning games.

Right now, there are two people that don't understand this. The head coach and the starting QB.
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Mccown went 3-2. He didn't run off 8 straight wins or something crazy. The defense is playing poorly, therefore, you need to score touchdowns, which means mistakes are going to happen now and then. Cutler gives them a better chance now and in the long-term. Once the defense is solidified, Cutler can play it a little more safely.
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I guess we just approach this differently. Both McCown and Cutler have won and lost games. All too often, it appears that Jay's mistakes are the reason for the loss. Luckily, the defense stepped up yesterday.
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swirling winds and freezing temps after a month off, let alone playing a tough d. ryno1980 is exactly right. we need to move the ball, cutler does that better. if this was 3 years ago, i'd be all for playing mccown. a strong d and mccown can win the superbowl. a weak d needs a cutler, we need to take risks. mccown did his job to perfection. 3-2 is all you can ask as a backup. we need Jay, and the 2nd half made me excited about our chances should we get to the post-season

 
RBM said:
Wrigley said:
IheartGuinness said:
The Bears are easily the best team in the NFL. I've been saying all year that they would win it all, and they keep proving me right. Man, that was one hell of a prediction, but it's looking pretty brilliant so far.
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you need a bigger boat
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I like the "easily" part.
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But if he wanted a big catch, he should have tossed this bait into a Packer thread...or a Lion thread. Although, I do hope to watch the Lions tonight, and watch them Detroit all over themselves.

 
Figured we wouldn't see him back this year even if we did make the playoffs, but the Bears seemed to make it official that Tillman is shut down for the year. He's probably one of my favorite Bears on the roster, and I think it's really too bad we may not see him play another game. Depending on how the injury looks, I think we offer him a contract for next year, but it will likely be a huge paycut from what he was getting this year, so he may be gone.

 
The Tick said:
Figured we wouldn't see him back this year even if we did make the playoffs, but the Bears seemed to make it official that Tillman is shut down for the year. He's probably one of my favorite Bears on the roster, and I think it's really too bad we may not see him play another game. Depending on how the injury looks, I think we offer him a contract for next year, but it will likely be a huge paycut from what he was getting this year, so he may be gone.
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The good news is that it's "just" his triceps. Shouldn't be lingering.

With McCown playing well, and Tillman/Melton's injuries...the Bears expensive offseason is looking a bit cheaper

 
Now that Detroit choked away their season, the Bears officially won the division. They're definitely the hottest team in the NFL right now. Seems like you can pencil them in for the Super Bowl.

 
So if the Lions lose next week (and fall to 7-8) and the Packers win (8-6-1), shouldn't the Bears just bench their players since all they have to do is win week 17 and week 16 will not matter right? Am I missing something?

If the Lions and Packers both lose next week, Bears could win the division with the win on Sunday night and hence would play everyone. But what if the above scenario unfolds?

 
Sweetness_34 said:
So if the Lions lose next week (and fall to 7-8) and the Packers win (8-6-1), shouldn't the Bears just bench their players since all they have to do is win week 17 and week 16 will not matter right? Am I missing something?

If the Lions and Packers both lose next week, Bears could win the division with the win on Sunday night and hence would play everyone. But what if the above scenario unfolds?
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If they do that and the Eagles win, they own the tiebreaker, thus the 3 seed. 3/4 seeds still up for grabs

 
IheartGuinness said:
Now that Detroit choked away their season, the Bears officially won the division.
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Lol, the Packers, Lions, and Bears can all still win the NFC North, and the Bears & Packers both control their fate.

 
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No way for anyone to keep defending Tucker. No way. He's helpless. The defense quit. Worst in Bears history. How bad do you have to be to get fired after your first season?

 
Well, just forget about this one and move on to next week. We should be able to beat this Packers team at home, especially if Rodgers does not start. The packers D is even worse than ours.

 
yikes. That was bad. Regardless of the injuries we have had on the D, Mel Tucker should not be back next year. Awful.

Hoping Eddie Lacy can't go next week.

 
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No way for anyone to keep defending Tucker. No way. He's helpless. The defense quit. Worst in Bears history. How bad do you have to be to get fired after your first season?
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Agree partially, but it's not like they lost 53 to 54, Not going to beat a lot of teams putting up 11 points.

 
This one got away early...25 yard punt? Fumble on the kickoff? And suddenly down 21 pts took the entire O out of their normal game plan....oh well, stuff happens in the NFL. Last week this same Eagles team looked like #### on the road giving up 40+ points to the Vikings without ADP. So things change fast from week to week....good thing the Bears play at home. Still like our chances to win next week. The Packers D is as bad or even worse than ours.

 
KCitons said:
flapgreen said:
No way for anyone to keep defending Tucker. No way. He's helpless. The defense quit. Worst in Bears history. How bad do you have to be to get fired after your first season?
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Agree partially, but it's not like they lost 53 to 54, Not going to beat a lot of teams putting up 11 points.
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I'm not talking about losing or scoring points on offense. I'm talking about an embarrassing defense. No excuse for it. I don't care how many injuries. Someone needs to be fired.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
This one got away early...25 yard punt? Fumble on the kickoff? And suddenly down 21 pts took the entire O out of their normal game plan....oh well, stuff happens in the NFL. Last week this same Eagles team looked like #### on the road giving up 40+ points to the Vikings without ADP. So things change fast from week to week....good thing the Bears play at home. Still like our chances to win next week. The Packers D is as bad or even worse than ours.
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:lmao: Ok crazy guy. :loco:

 
pbandy1 said:
yikes. That was bad. Regardless of the injuries we have had on the D, Mel Tucker should not be back next year. Awful.

Hoping Eddie Lacy can't go next week.
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Doesn't matter who they play at running back. Look back over the season. Anyone can run on them. Anyone!

 
The ridiculous thing is that as bad as the Bears looked last night I still think they have a good chance to beat the Packers. As things stand now, if they were to beat the Packers then they would play the Niners. I don't think they would have much chance there. Had they won last night they could have gotten the third seed and possibly faced the Saints. The Saints, in a cold weather game on the road, would be an easier match up than the Niners.

That said, I would still like to see Tucker fired today. That absolutely pitiful display of defense should have consequences. It won't, but it should.

 
I said it before, I think I'd like the Bears to bring in Singletary to be the next DC. That was an embarassing performance on prime time tv.

 
flapgreen said:
Sweetness_34 said:
This one got away early...25 yard punt? Fumble on the kickoff? And suddenly down 21 pts took the entire O out of their normal game plan....oh well, stuff happens in the NFL. Last week this same Eagles team looked like #### on the road giving up 40+ points to the Vikings without ADP. So things change fast from week to week....good thing the Bears play at home. Still like our chances to win next week. The Packers D is as bad or even worse than ours.
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:lmao: Ok crazy guy. :loco:
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They're comparable and saying 'as bad' is not a stretch when talking about overall production.

ypg allowed

Pack: 374.1

Bears: 389.3

ppg allowed

Pack: 26.7

Bears 29.7

Pack just lost Mathews again, Jolly is out.

Last 9 games Pack has given up 31, 27, 27, 27, 26, 40, 21, 36, 38

Still laughing?

 
Limp Ditka said:
flapgreen said:
Sweetness_34 said:
This one got away early...25 yard punt? Fumble on the kickoff? And suddenly down 21 pts took the entire O out of their normal game plan....oh well, stuff happens in the NFL. Last week this same Eagles team looked like #### on the road giving up 40+ points to the Vikings without ADP. So things change fast from week to week....good thing the Bears play at home. Still like our chances to win next week. The Packers D is as bad or even worse than ours.
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:lmao: Ok crazy guy. :loco:
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They're comparable and saying 'as bad' is not a stretch when talking about overall production.

ypg allowed

Pack: 374.1

Bears: 389.3

ppg allowed

Pack: 26.7

Bears 29.7

Pack just lost Mathews again, Jolly is out.

Last 9 games Pack has given up 31, 27, 27, 27, 26, 40, 21, 36, 38

Still laughing?
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:lol:
 
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