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**Official 2014 In Season Dynasty Trade Thread** (2 Viewers)

Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.
This is how you debuild, not rebuild.

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.
Some guys are really high on cpatBut that trade is worse than some posted in the "worst trade you've been offered" thread

 
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Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.
Patterson will be playing after Charles is retired and the trade helps him get Gurley.

 
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Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.

Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd

 
12 team /ppr/qb/3wr/2rb/te/flex/30 man rosters

Started off bad 2-4 looking to retool after Cruz went down tonight

Gave

Jordy Nelson

Brandon LaFell

Darren Sproles

Received

Brandon Oliver

Davante Adams

Marqise Lee

2016 1st

2015 4th
I think that is a little light for Jordy
I think it's close to fair market value, myself--right around 3 firsts (Adams, Lee, 1st). If I were rebuilding, I'd take it, assuming I did some homework first on other potential offers.
Four 1sts if Oliver keeps this up.

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.

Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd
You can't leave Gurley out of the equation.

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.

Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd
You can't leave Gurley out of the equation.
Need to know his QB to know how much he's tanking. And/or it elevates the value of a top 4 or 5 pick not just 1.1 or 1.2.

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
awful

 
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.
Patterson will be playing after Charles is retired and the trade helps him get Gurley.
Won't Harvin still be playing?

 
Somewhat of a big trade:

Newton, Cam CAR QB

Cadet, Travaris NOS RB

Ingram, Mark NOS RB

McCoy, LeSean PHI RB

Bailey, Stedman STL WR

Prater, Matt DET PK

for

Stafford, Matthew DET QB

Martin, Doug TBB RB

Zuerlein, Greg STL PK

Whitehead, Tahir DET LB

Two 2015 1sts (both likely late, 1.10-1.16 range)

2015 2nd (probably #20-24)
Am I overlooking something or is there more to it? For me the Cam side and it is IMO not close.
:shrug: one side is rebuilding (will be a force in a couple years or less) and the other contending.

Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
So he was already bad (hence why he's rebuilding) and he trades AWAY McCoy, Cam, and Ingram for a bunch of junk and he's "going to be a force in a couple years or less"? Based on what? Two late 1st round picks that won't even come close to replacing the young studs he traded away even in a best case scenario?

:lol: Just another example of why some people are perpetually rebuilding.
Not to argue much here, but I think you're overrating Ingram and underrating Stafford.

He has a lot of young talent on his roster - enough that after trading these guys away he's the top scoring team this week.
Stafford does have a bit more value in a larger league (looks like this is a 16 team league) but at best he's still a downgrade from Cam. Ingram is worth more than a late 1st on his own, as is Cam, which leaves Shady and change for a whole lotta 'meh'.

If his team is as good or soon to be as good as you say it is, then that makes this trade worse, not better. You know who he could use in a couple years when you think he'll be a "force"? Guys like Cam, McCoy, and Ingram.

I know you're trying to defend the guy so it doesn't look like you ripped him off but that's just what it is. It's a bad trade for the guy if he's rebuilding, bad if he's middle of the pack, and bad if he's contending.

 
12 team /ppr/qb/3wr/2rb/te/flex/30 man rosters

Started off bad 2-4 looking to retool after Cruz went down tonight

Gave

Jordy Nelson

Brandon LaFell

Darren Sproles

Received

Brandon Oliver

Davante Adams

Marqise Lee

2016 1st

2015 4th
I think that is a little light for Jordy
I think it's close to fair market value, myself--right around 3 firsts (Adams, Lee, 1st). If I were rebuilding, I'd take it, assuming I did some homework first on other potential offers.
Four 1sts if Oliver keeps this up.
Seperate deal same league

Gave

Vereen

Brandon Boldin

Got

2015 1st (late)

2015 3rd (late)

 
12 team /ppr/qb/3wr/2rb/te/flex/30 man rosters

Started off bad 2-4 looking to retool after Cruz went down tonight

Gave

Jordy Nelson

Brandon LaFell

Darren Sproles

Received

Brandon Oliver

Davante Adams

Marqise Lee

2016 1st

2015 4th
I think that is a little light for Jordy
I think it's close to fair market value, myself--right around 3 firsts (Adams, Lee, 1st). If I were rebuilding, I'd take it, assuming I did some homework first on other potential offers.
Four 1sts if Oliver keeps this up.
Seperate deal same league

Gave

Vereen

Brandon Boldin

Got

2015 1st (late)

2015 3rd (late)
Nice work.

 
Somewhat of a big trade:

Newton, Cam CAR QB

Cadet, Travaris NOS RB

Ingram, Mark NOS RB

McCoy, LeSean PHI RB

Bailey, Stedman STL WR

Prater, Matt DET PK

for

Stafford, Matthew DET QB

Martin, Doug TBB RB

Zuerlein, Greg STL PK

Whitehead, Tahir DET LB

Two 2015 1sts (both likely late, 1.10-1.16 range)

2015 2nd (probably #20-24)
Am I overlooking something or is there more to it? For me the Cam side and it is IMO not close.
:shrug: one side is rebuilding (will be a force in a couple years or less) and the other contending.

Took awhile to get this one done. Started as Cam/Saints RBs for Stafford/Martin and escalated from there.
So he was already bad (hence why he's rebuilding) and he trades AWAY McCoy, Cam, and Ingram for a bunch of junk and he's "going to be a force in a couple years or less"? Based on what? Two late 1st round picks that won't even come close to replacing the young studs he traded away even in a best case scenario?

:lol: Just another example of why some people are perpetually rebuilding.
Not to argue much here, but I think you're overrating Ingram and underrating Stafford.

He has a lot of young talent on his roster - enough that after trading these guys away he's the top scoring team this week.
Stafford does have a bit more value in a larger league (looks like this is a 16 team league) but at best he's still a downgrade from Cam. Ingram is worth more than a late 1st on his own, as is Cam, which leaves Shady and change for a whole lotta 'meh'.

If his team is as good or soon to be as good as you say it is, then that makes this trade worse, not better. You know who he could use in a couple years when you think he'll be a "force"? Guys like Cam, McCoy, and Ingram.

I know you're trying to defend the guy so it doesn't look like you ripped him off but that's just what it is. It's a bad trade for the guy if he's rebuilding, bad if he's middle of the pack, and bad if he's contending.
The guy doesn't need defending, he's a good owner. Just giving my honest assessment.

I'd love to get a 1st for Ingram and have put him on the block already, we'll see if there's any interest. It's entirely possible I underrate the guy. IMHO, he's in the same tier as Martin.

 
DWest said:
cstu said:
Concept Coop said:
One More Rep said:
DWest said:
12 team /ppr/qb/3wr/2rb/te/flex/30 man rosters

Started off bad 2-4 looking to retool after Cruz went down tonight

Gave

Jordy Nelson

Brandon LaFell

Darren Sproles

Received

Brandon Oliver

Davante Adams

Marqise Lee

2016 1st

2015 4th
I think that is a little light for Jordy
I think it's close to fair market value, myself--right around 3 firsts (Adams, Lee, 1st). If I were rebuilding, I'd take it, assuming I did some homework first on other potential offers.
Four 1sts if Oliver keeps this up.
Seperate deal same league

Gave

Vereen

Brandon Boldin

Got

2015 1st (late)

2015 3rd (late)
Picks

 
thriftyrocker said:
cstu said:
maxhyde said:
Acrobat7 said:
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.

Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd
You can't leave Gurley out of the equation.
Need to know his QB to know how much he's tanking. And/or it elevates the value of a top 4 or 5 pick not just 1.1 or 1.2.
What would that change? Cutting Charles helps you get Gurley; that doesn't make it a good move. Especially in a start 2 QB league, as Winston and Mariota could prove equally valuable come April.

I don't see any situation in which the move is justified. It's awful.

 
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thriftyrocker said:
cstu said:
maxhyde said:
Acrobat7 said:
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.

Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd
You can't leave Gurley out of the equation.
Need to know his QB to know how much he's tanking. And/or it elevates the value of a top 4 or 5 pick not just 1.1 or 1.2.
What would that change? Cutting Charles helps you get Gurley; that doesn't make it a good move. Especially in a start 2 QB league, as Winston and Mariota could prove equally valuable come April.

I don't see any situation in which the move is justified. It's awful.
But he didn't cut Charles, he got a very hyped young WR. Patterson hasn't done anything but all it takes it one game and his value is back as high as the preseason, maybe higher with Bridgewater having a year of experience.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
cstu said:
Patterson will be playing after Charles is retired and the trade helps him get Gurley.
Won't Harvin still be playing?
Harvin and Maclin will both be playing. While I consider Harvin much more talented, the fact is the Maclin is on a much better offense.

 
12 team PPR

Team A gave up:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Lloyd, Brandon SFO WR

Team B gave up:
Ivory, Chris NYJ RB
Hawkins, Andrew CLE WR
 
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12 team PPR

Team A gave up:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Lloyd, Brandon SFO WR

Team B gave up:
Ivory, Chris NYJ RB
Hawkins, Andrew CLE WR
This is a weird one.

Maybe Ball was exposed a little and isn't as good as we thought he would be - but Team A virtually got nothing in return. Why bother trading him?

 
But he didn't cut Charles, he got a very hyped young WR. Patterson hasn't done anything but all it takes it one game and his value is back as high as the preseason, maybe higher with Bridgewater having a year of experience.
I don't see Patterson ever being valued as a dynasty WR1 again, with any consistently. At this rate, he won't be starting for the Vikes next season.

 
12 team PPR

Team A gave up:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Lloyd, Brandon SFO WR

Team B gave up:
Ivory, Chris NYJ RB
Hawkins, Andrew CLE WR
This is a weird one.

Maybe Ball was exposed a little and isn't as good as we thought he would be - but Team A virtually got nothing in return. Why bother trading him?
I like Hawkins, but I doubt hes worth Ball.
I like Hawkins for what he is as well, but in a 12 team league he's rosterable but not really startable (even in a ppr) - he's just not very consistent and lacks upside.

 
12 team PPR

Team A gave up:
Ball, Montee DEN RB
Lloyd, Brandon SFO WR

Team B gave up:
Ivory, Chris NYJ RB
Hawkins, Andrew CLE WR
This is a weird one.

Maybe Ball was exposed a little and isn't as good as we thought he would be - but Team A virtually got nothing in return. Why bother trading him?
Not sure. I co-own Team B, and my partner sent out several trade offers over the weekend, including a couple for Ball. Team A rejected those offers and countered with this one. The trade was executed before yesterday's games.

The league uses victory points, and Team A was tied for 1st entering week 6, while our team was tied for 6th.

:shrug:

 
Pretty Big Trade

12 Team PPR qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te/ 1 flex is rb/wr and 1 flex is rb/wr/te

Team A Gives Michael Floyd/Ben Tate/Terrence West/Justin Hunter/Mark Ingram

Team B Gives Le'Veon Bell/Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Ahmad Bradshaw/Clay Harbor

 
Pretty Big Trade

12 Team PPR qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te/ 1 flex is rb/wr and 1 flex is rb/wr/te

Team A Gives Michael Floyd/Ben Tate/Terrence West/Justin Hunter/Mark Ingram

Team B Gives Le'Veon Bell/Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Ahmad Bradshaw/Clay Harbor
I like the Floyd side myself

 
cstu said:
SayWhat? said:
Acrobat7 said:
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
I wouldn't do this trade in a vacuum, and on top of that I don't really see how this helps rebuild.
Patterson will be playing after Charles is retired and the trade helps him get Gurley.
This is true. Of course you could also say the same about trading Jamal Charles for Aaron Dobson.

 
Pretty Big Trade

12 Team PPR qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te/ 1 flex is rb/wr and 1 flex is rb/wr/te

Team A Gives Michael Floyd/Ben Tate/Terrence West/Justin Hunter/Mark Ingram

Team B Gives Le'Veon Bell/Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Ahmad Bradshaw/Clay Harbor
I like the Floyd side myself
Me too.
Give me Bell. Far and away the best player in the trade and the pieces that come along with him, while not as good, aren't bad themselves.

Much better collection of players for this year, and probably about equal going forward.

 
Pretty Big Trade

12 Team PPR qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te/ 1 flex is rb/wr and 1 flex is rb/wr/te

Team A Gives Michael Floyd/Ben Tate/Terrence West/Justin Hunter/Mark Ingram

Team B Gives Le'Veon Bell/Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Ahmad Bradshaw/Clay Harbor
I like the Floyd side myself
Me too.
Give me Bell. Far and away the best player in the trade and the pieces that come along with him, while not as good, aren't bad themselves.

Much better collection of players for this year, and probably about equal going forward.
Yeah I'll take the Bell side and I don't feel that it's a very tough call.

 
Non-PPR, standard scoring league with bonus points for 25 or more rushes in a game

Traded: Isaiah Crowell

Odell Beckham

Future 1st (probably anywhere from 1.04 - 1.12, pretty competitive and balanced league)

Received: Lesean McCoy

 
Non-PPR, standard scoring league with bonus points for 25 or more rushes in a game

Traded: Isaiah Crowell

Odell Beckham

Future 1st (probably anywhere from 1.04 - 1.12, pretty competitive and balanced league)

Received: Lesean McCoy
I like Crowell and Beckham but have to go McCoy here

 
I overpaid, but just really wanted my favorite player.

I gave:

Hunter, Justin TEN WR
Pierre-Paul, Jason NYG DE
Flowers, Brandon SDC CB
Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick (best guess #50-64)

for

Goodwin, Marquise BUF WR
Watt, J.J. HOU DE

Salary cap 32 team league and Watt has a one year deal. Hunter, JPP and Flowers have 3-4 year deals.

 
I overpaid, but just really wanted my favorite player.

I gave:

Hunter, Justin TEN WR

Pierre-Paul, Jason NYG DE

Flowers, Brandon SDC CB

Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick (best guess #50-64)

for

Goodwin, Marquise BUF WR

Watt, J.J. HOU DE

Salary cap 32 team league and Watt has a one year deal. Hunter, JPP and Flowers have 3-4 year deals.
Assuming you have some kind of mechanism to extend/match/keep Watt, I don't think this is an overpay.

 
Pretty Big Trade

12 Team PPR qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te/ 1 flex is rb/wr and 1 flex is rb/wr/te

Team A Gives Michael Floyd/Ben Tate/Terrence West/Justin Hunter/Mark Ingram

Team B Gives Le'Veon Bell/Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Ahmad Bradshaw/Clay Harbor
I like the Floyd side myself
Me too.
Give me Bell. Far and away the best player in the trade and the pieces that come along with him, while not as good, aren't bad themselves.

Much better collection of players for this year, and probably about equal going forward.
Yeah I'll take the Bell side and I don't feel that it's a very tough call.
Me too. I consider Bell the top RB and a legit top 10 dynasty asset. Floyd and prospects just isn't enough.

 
thriftyrocker said:
cstu said:
maxhyde said:
Acrobat7 said:
Slightly bigger trade in a 12 team PPR which starts QQ RRR WWWW T K D:

Team A (1-5, rebuilding) gave

Jamaal Charles

Percy Harvin

Reggie Wayne

2015 4th

Team B (5-1 or 4-2 depending on MNF, Kniles Davis owner) gave

Latavius Murray

Cordarelle Patterson

Jeremy Maclin

2015 3rd
Thats not a very good return.Rebuild could take a very long time making deals like that. I can't see anyway that isn't a backwards move at every player and simply upgrading a 4th to a 3rd

Charles >> Patterson

Harvin > Maclin

Wayne > LMurray

4th < 3rd
You can't leave Gurley out of the equation.
Need to know his QB to know how much he's tanking. And/or it elevates the value of a top 4 or 5 pick not just 1.1 or 1.2.
Sorry for being unclear. The picks traded weren't 1.03 and 1.04, but a 2015 3rd and 4th rounder.

 

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