** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

[thriftyrocker]

I remember when DeSean started his label and was interviewed on the radio about how he's trying to be smart with his money and start businesses, acting so adult. And this is what came from it. It is kind of unreal.

 

[Insein]

Right again.

You said he'd be released for money reasons. Pretty sure you were wrong on this one.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Anyone else thinking that there's more to this than what the press has out there at this point? I guarantee that DJax isn't the only guy in the league that grew up in a rough neighborhood and continues to associate with bad characters. And there are tons of guys in the league that have done waaaay worse than throwing up gang signs, as dumb as that is. Say what you will about Jackson -- on the field he is a difference making player, and it's pretty rare for a guy like that to just be handed his walking papers.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Right again.

You said he'd be released for money reasons. Pretty sure you were wrong on this one.

 

[CentralPA]

Anyone else thinking that there's more to this than what the press has out there at this point? I guarantee that DJax isn't the only guy in the league that grew up in a rough neighborhood and continues to associate with bad characters. And there are tons of guys in the league that have done waaaay worse than throwing up gang signs, as dumb as that is. Say what you will about Jackson -- on the field he is a difference making player, and it's pretty rare for a guy like that to just be handed his walking papers.

It may be that there is so many red flags and smoke surrounding him that Chip and Howie had enough. It's a very bitter pill to swallow but it may end up making sense. At least I hope so.

 

[Insein]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Knew it had to be something. While the Eagles should have got something for him, I understand the situation better now. Hopefully Howie learns for the future how to not show your hand and get something for a guy you're getting rid of.

Everyone knew and the trade was a last ditch effort. Them making the move now confirms it IMO. Howie knew they wouldnt get a thing for him.

 

[Billy Bats]

Herm Edwards saying good for the Philadelphia Eagles. Adding that they have way more info on him than we'll ever know in order to make this kind of move.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Right again.

 

[GoBirds]

Unbelievable, nothing in return.

Well we have plenty of cap space now.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

 

[Insein]

Knew it had to be something. While the Eagles should have got something for him, I understand the situation better now. Hopefully Howie learns for the future how to not show your hand and get something for a guy you're getting rid of.

Everyone knew and the trade was a last ditch effort. Them making the move now confirms it IMO. Howie knew they wouldnt get a thing for him.

You may be right.

 

[Sweetness_34]

So the fftoolbox twitter site was correct. A lot of eagle fans gave them lots of crap when they first reported that Desean was a goner when FA was about to open up a few weeks back. Turns out they were correct.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I guarantee that DJax isn't the only guy in the league that grew up in a rough neighborhood and continues to associate with bad characters.

I don't think DeSean grew up in a bad neighborhood. He is a smart kid from a middle class neighborhood. His childhood is very much like Todd Marinovich. His dad pushed him, NFL or bust. There is a documentary about it showing him from age 9 or 10 preparing for the NFL and forming "Team Jackson." Maybe he's making mistakes now that he should have made in HS when his life was more regimented.

 

[cstu]

Unbelievable, nothing in return.

Well we have plenty of cap space now.

I now it's a tough loss for Eagles fan at the moment, but I'd focus on what the team can do with that $10M cutting Jackson freed up.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@JasonLaCanfora: Gang affiliation allegations could result in 1-2yr deal for Jackson. He gets good short term $ and then could hit market again b4 he's 30

@ZBerm: But Eagles have had concerns for some time, which is why they have been looking to move him.

@CrossingBroad: Source: The Eagles Were Poking Around Quite a Bit About the Burglary at DeSean Jacksons House http://t.co/dDRIzb6pKS

@Jeff_McLane: #Eagles didn't release DeSean Jackson because of a strong story by http://t.co/27ukxnqmab on his gang connections, but it was final straw.

@Edwerderespn: Eagles end relationship with a young receiver who just had career season in Chip Kelly offense. Some teammates laud move. It's that bad

 

[Insein]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

 

[Insein]

Unbelievable, nothing in return.

Well we have plenty of cap space now.

I now it's a tough loss for Eagles fan at the moment, but I'd focus on what the team can do with that $10M cutting Jackson freed up.

Not much to do.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I now it's a tough loss for Eagles fan at the moment, but I'd focus on what the team can do with that $10M cutting Jackson freed up.

No one left to sign. Lurie can get another mansion in Wynnewood.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ZBerm: Eagles did not previously know about the contents of the http://t.co/BDUviXKo6Q article until this week.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@BenVolin: Double wow RT @EliotShorrParks: Exclusive: DeSean Jacksons gang connections troubling to #Eagles http://t.co/qvbQbWM3De

 

[CentralPA]

Unbelievable, nothing in return.

Well we have plenty of cap space now.

See!!!! We at least got that in return.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And just stop and think for a MINUTE....those tweets I'm pasting are just what they know. Who knows what else is out there.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

 

[Insein]

Listening to the radio now and some good points being made. Chip the other day sounded evasive and unsure but now we realize he couldn't say anything. He didn't trash Desean and he didn't give the token "he's my guy and I want him on my team" answer either. I feel better about Chip now and his leadership skills.

 

[Insein]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

Which we would have gotten had they cut Desean next year when he would sign those guys.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I guarantee that DJax isn't the only guy in the league that grew up in a rough neighborhood and continues to associate with bad characters.

I don't think DeSean grew up in a bad neighborhood. He is a smart kid from a middle class neighborhood. His childhood is very much like Todd Marinovich. His dad pushed him, NFL or bust. There is a documentary about it showing him from age 9 or 10 preparing for the NFL and forming "Team Jackson." Maybe he's making mistakes now that he should have made in HS when his life was more regimented.

Yeah, I've got no idea about his personal life or background at all. But my main point stands -- it seems awfully strong to cut an on-field difference maker based on who he hangs out with off of the field, missed meetings and complaints about money or not. I guarantee that there are tons of guys in every locker room none of us would really want to go have a beer with.

 

[CentralPA]

No comment from Roseman or Lurie on this. That seems like a very bad idea to me.

 

[dhockster]

Hmm. Hire convicted dog killer. Extend guy with racist remarks. Cut guy with an official clean record.

How has that worked out:

-Dog Killer: Rehabbed his life and Eagles probably got as much out of him as he was capable of.

-Racist Remark Guy: Goes on to have a career year, thanks in part to Dog Killer.

-Clean Record Guy: ????

Seems to me the Eagles made a good decision to get Vick, and thus far, keeping Cooper was a good decision. The Cooper extension and Desean cut still have to play out.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

No comment from Roseman or Lurie on this. That seems like a very bad idea to me.

Not right now. A time will come and there's enough out there now to see why this happened

 

[ShaHBucks]

A leaguemate just sent me a trade offer for Desean and commented "I'm willing to take aflyer on this gang banger." perception is everything.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

Which we would have gotten had they cut Desean next year when he would sign those guys.

Shah I love the stuff you out on the site and respect a lot of what you do but you are trying far too hard to "be right" on this. I don't know if it's a pride thing or maybe you're having a little fun with Insein but I believe there's enough out, from a TON of people in the know, to see just why this happned. I'm sure you've also been watching football long enough to see a traditional salary cap casualty and I'm also sure you know this doesnt seem to fit given the timeline of everything and the stories that are availible,

 

[Insein]

No comment from Roseman or Lurie on this. That seems like a very bad idea to me.

The league may have a say in that. They might not be able to talk.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

Which we would have gotten had they cut Desean next year when he would sign those guys.

So give him the bonus $ + this years salary when he's not even in the future plans? And after you gave Sproles money?Well whatever. It's over. My point from the beginning was that the money didn't make sense and that his production is replaceable. They did that and maybe more with a good draftpick. He is a headache too, I never really disagreed with that. It is what it is

 

[ShaHBucks]

Sanchez said he wants to start

 

[Nucker101]

Sanchez said he wants to start

This should be a fun year....What's next?

But then again, I wouldn't expect him to say "I wanna be a career backup".

 

[delusional]

That nj.com article really brought a lot of #### to light.

 

[mquinnjr]

Sanchez said he wants to start

This should be a fun year....What's next?

Get Leinart on the Practice Squad, for solidarity amongst the last 3 USC QB's to not (yet for Barkley) meet their NFL expectations.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Sanchez said he wants to start

This should be a fun year....What's next? But then again, I wouldn't expect him to say "I wanna be a career backup".

He better start learning the play calling sign language for Nick Foles and hush! We don't need another Vince Young.

 

[Sludge]

He must have been a huge cancer in that locker room:

Jason Kelce ✔ @Jkelce Follow

We just made an extremely unpopular decision, but I couldn't be more excited and happy with where this organization is going!! #FlyEaglesFly

 

[Nucker101]

Sanchez said he wants to start

This should be a fun year....What's next? But then again, I wouldn't expect him to say "I wanna be a career backup".

He better start learning the play calling sign language for Nick Foles and hush! We don't need another Vince Young.

He can hold up the signs, they should work Tebow and Rex Ryan into the deck!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

He must have been a huge cancer in that locker room:

Jason Kelce ✔ @Jkelce Follow

We just made an extremely unpopular decision, but I couldn't be more excited and happy with where this organization is going!! #FlyEaglesFly

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 23m
Eagles end relationship with a young receiver who just had career season in Chip Kelly offense. Some teammates laud move. It's that bad

That should pretty much tell you everything you need to know about this situation

 

[massraider]

I must be missing where Kelce is saying he is happy DeSean is gone.

 

[Nucker101]

I must be missing where Kelce is saying he is happy DeSean is gone.

He seems pretty happy about it to me. Combine that with the Werder Tweet and it seems pretty reasonable to think.

 

[Sludge]

I must be missing where Kelce is saying he is happy DeSean is gone.

Was the font too small? I apologize.

 

[massraider]

I must be missing where Kelce is saying he is happy DeSean is gone.

Was the font too small? I apologize.

A player saying he is happy with direction of the team isn't the same as being happy he is gone.

I read Werder's tweet, so I am sure we will soon hear about all the other players that are happy he is gone.

 

[CentralPA]

I must be missing where Kelce is saying he is happy DeSean is gone.

He seems pretty happy about it to me. Combine that with the Werder Tweet and it seems pretty reasonable to think.

He mentions the word "unfortuante". I wouldn't say it was a celebration of Jackson being cut but who knows.

 

[cstu]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

Which we would have gotten had they cut Desean next year when he would sign those guys.

Had DeSean been cut next year he would have been $4M in dead money instead of $6M and the team would have spent $10M on him they could have used in other ways.

People don't take into account that $10M is real money and everything isn't about the cap. You can manipulate the cap in a lot of ways, like restructuring guys to give them more money this year and lower the cap in future years.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

This sucks. I understand that the team has to consider the big picture here, but it still sucks. Maybe I'll feel better about it come draft day.

 

[Insein]

I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

He's gone but it wasn't about money.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2lwkkzzs1qafrh6.jpg

They're paying $6mil against their precious cap to tell him to go away. So not money.

Ok. I believe this has nothing to do with Foles, Kendricks, Cox and Boynkins next contract and the upcoming draft class at WR which the GM has been raving about to the public.

Which we would have gotten had they cut Desean next year when he would sign those guys.

Had DeSean been cut next year he would have been $4M in dead money instead of $6M and the team would have spent $10M on him they could have used in other ways.

People don't take into account that $10M is real money and everything isn't about the cap. You can manipulate the cap in a lot of ways, like restructuring guys to give them more money this year and lower the cap in future years.

They signed everyone they were willing to this year. I doubt anyone else was getting resigned when they have a nice cap number. If this was before free agency, I'd agree about getting $10 mil back. Now its rookies and any intriguing salary cuts. They were already at $18mil cap space. This will put them at $22mil.

Not much difference when the alternative is having a pro bowl wide receiver on your squad for the year all things being equal. Which they are not in this situation.