** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (2 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

This game highlighted the shortcomings. Sanchez, Cooper, and Fletcher shouldn't be starting on an NFL team. Unfortunately 1 plays the most important position in sports. Run defense is sufficient but the pass rush is sporadic with the Marcus Smith bust. OL has not consistently run blocked which may be because of the poor QB play and lack of any vertical passing game.

This team is good but unfortunately I get the sense that it has so many holes that are exposed at different times by good opponents that the only way this team wins a championship as constructed is with a dominant QB. Please let me know when one walks in the door.

ETA: McCoy is gone this year.

Despite the Smith pick the front 7 has been amazing, even with Ryans out. We may very well need 3 DB's though.

 

[JetMaxx]

This game highlighted the shortcomings. Sanchez, Cooper, and Fletcher shouldn't be starting on an NFL team. Unfortunately 1 plays the most important position in sports. Run defense is sufficient but the pass rush is sporadic with the Marcus Smith bust. OL has not consistently run blocked which may be because of the poor QB play and lack of any vertical passing game.

This team is good but unfortunately I get the sense that it has so many holes that are exposed at different times by good opponents that the only way this team wins a championship as constructed is with a dominant QB. Please let me know when one walks in the door.

ETA: McCoy is gone this year.

He's been in a sweatshirt on the sideline for about 7 weeks now.

Slightly above average at his best but not good enough for us in this situation

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

 

[JetMaxx]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

When was this?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

When was this?

Last night in the 4th quarter after the last pick by Sanchez

 

[JetMaxx]

Spiller Sproles Polk is your backfield next year with McCoy used as a sweetener to acquire a QB. To Jags or Raiders pick?

 

[fred_1_15301]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

Maybe I'm missing the context in which it happened and I'm not a McCoy fan but don't you want to see this type of anger and passion out of the players?

 

[Snotbubbles]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

Here goes the Eagles cap hit situation next year for the big money guys who have big cap savings if cut:

LeSean McCoy: 11.95M hit, 4.4M dead, saves 7.55M

Trent Cole: 11.625M hit, 3.2M dead, saves 8.425M

Cary Williams: 8.17M, 1.67M dead, saves 6.5M

Demeco Ryans: 6.9M hit, 0 dead, saves 6.9M

Brent Celek: 4.8M hit, 0 dead, saves 4.8M

James Casey: 4M hit, 0 dead, saves 4M

Ryans and Casey are probably locks to be cut. Cole will either be restructured or cut. Williams is another cut candidate depending on what they do in the draft and FA. I don't think McCoy will be cut.

 

[dhockster]

The Eagles either need to do the Vincent/Taylor strategy of signing a CB and drafting a CB high in the draft, or go the Sheppard/Brown/Lewis strategy of spending our first 3 picks on defensive backs.

If the Eagles can solidify their back 4, the defense will be very good.

 

[Billy Bats]

That is what bothers me even more about not drafting CB first round. Between Cary not being that good and assuming he's a salary cut next season, we needed a replacement already in house. Now they have to hope on a FA or draft multiple CBs this offseason and count on them immediately. But Cary's replacement should already be on the sidelines.

 

[Snotbubbles]

That is what bothers me even more about not drafting CB first round. Between Cary not being that good and assuming he's a salary cut next season, we needed a replacement already in house. Now they have to hope on a FA or draft multiple CBs this offseason and count on them immediately. But Cary's replacement should already be on the sidelines.

They could always throw money at Revis.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

Maybe I'm missing the context in which it happened and I'm not a McCoy fan but don't you want to see this type of anger and passion out of the players?

The anger/ passion usually comes off with players cursing or slaming things etc. I havent heard one say they hated football. Shady is usually a very upbeat player with a good attitude..it was odd hearing that is all

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Spiller Sproles Polk is your backfield next year with McCoy used as a sweetener to acquire a QB. To Jags or Raiders pick?

Nobody is going to trade a top 3 pick for an RB who has played 6 years already.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The Eagles either need to do the Vincent/Taylor strategy of signing a CB and drafting a CB high in the draft, or go the Sheppard/Brown/Lewis strategy of spending our first 3 picks on defensive backs.

If the Eagles can solidify their back 4, the defense will be very good.

Thweyre going to have to throw mud at the wall with that position IMO. I do NOT want them giving a multi year deal to an aging Revis--If they can get him for 2 I would be OK with that but nothing longer.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Spiller Sproles Polk is your backfield next year with McCoy used as a sweetener to acquire a QB. To Jags or Raiders pick?

Nobody is going to trade a top 3 pick for an RB who has played 6 years already.

He makes 10+ million....thats the bigger issue. No one will trade for a RB making that money

 

[Insein]

This game highlighted the shortcomings. Sanchez, Cooper, and Fletcher shouldn't be starting on an NFL team. Unfortunately 1 plays the most important position in sports. Run defense is sufficient but the pass rush is sporadic with the Marcus Smith bust. OL has not consistently run blocked which may be because of the poor QB play and lack of any vertical passing game.

This team is good but unfortunately I get the sense that it has so many holes that are exposed at different times by good opponents that the only way this team wins a championship as constructed is with a dominant QB. Please let me know when one walks in the door.

ETA: McCoy is gone this year.

He's been in a sweatshirt on the sideline for about 7 weeks now.

Slightly above average at his best but not good enough for us in this situation

I'll take a slightly above average 27 TDs and 2 ints with the potential to throw 7 TDs in a game any week.

 

[Insein]

Also, anyway we can get Dez this off season? Imagine him in this offense?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Rough game. That being said, I think if the Eagles take care of business against WAS and NYG, they get in. Luck won't miss the throws Sanchez did. In fact, any half-way decent QB wouldn't.

I personally think they beat WAS, but I shudder to think what Beckham will do to that secondary when they play NY.

 

[dhockster]

Rough game. That being said, I think if the Eagles take care of business against WAS and NYG, they get in. Luck won't miss the throws Sanchez did. In fact, any half-way decent QB wouldn't.

I personally think they beat WAS, but I shudder to think what Beckham will do to that secondary when they play NY.

Hopefully the Eagles will do something the Redskins supposedly did not do, which is double and triple team him.

 

[Insein]

Our season could essentially be over this week. Even if Seattle loses, if Detroit and Dallas both win, they'll be 11-4 with no way to catch them. We'd have to hope for a Wash win over Dallas (and that just isn't happening) or Seattle loss to Stl.

With as great as this season has been, it'd be a huge disappointment to miss the playoffs.

 

[Shutout]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

Where in the world do you come up with all of this?

Were you crying about Shady's use last year?

And Kelly is a million times better at making adjustments than Reid.

This commentary is way off-base.

 

[Shutout]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

Where in the world do you come up with all of this?

Were you crying about Shady's use last year?

And Kelly is a million times better at making adjustments than Reid.

This commentary is way off-base.

I'm not an Eagles fan nor an Eagles hater so I'm seeing it without any biases.

I'm not enough of an expert to put it on a presentation for anyone and talk about the 30% difference in how they are now running less 3-wide set or anything but I can tell you it doesn't pass the eyeball test this year.

Last year, they used their playmakers to perfection. This year, they don't. People talk about VOLUME for Shady but ignore the actual game flow. They keep forcing Sproles in and McCoy out in scenarios where Shady should be allowed to be a star. They have completely failed at developing Ertz to the next level despite anyone with a football interest being able to clearly tell you that he is the ideal TE for the type of difference-making TEs in today's game. They put the game in Sanchez's hands over Shady OR Sproles far too often, despite Sanchez missing passes everywhere. They ignore Matthews. The like Cooper.

It's just as obvious as they day is long: They are calling and running plays with complete and total disregard for the personnel they have. They act like their calls are good enough to make anyone succeed and they are wrong. They ignore the feel and flow of the game such as continuing to run this tempo when they are down 14-0 and putting their defense in a lurch.

I won't argue it past this point: Mine is just one opinion and I don't have enough fandom for the Eagles nor investment in Eagles fantasy players to care. I'm just saying what I see and to me it is obvious and the wins (losses) and the fantasy production (and lack thereof) support it. This team has a lot of talented players but Sanchez isn't the top of this list. There are teams out there that win games with far less talent. Philly seems reluctant to recognize theirs because I know there are teams out there that could put some of these guys to much better use (Philly has in the past. Why not continue with what works?).

 

[Manster]

Specifically last night, the Cowboys defense stepped up. It looked like the Eagles O was gonna get rollin. Cowboys D started gettin to dirty and stopped the run. Pretty much what you guys did to us on Thanksgiving!

Has Shady lost a half step? He used to be able to wiggle out of the defender in the backfield stuff. He just doesn't seem quite as quick.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

Where in the world do you come up with all of this?

Were you crying about Shady's use last year?

And Kelly is a million times better at making adjustments than Reid.

This commentary is way off-base.

I'm not an Eagles fan nor an Eagles hater so I'm seeing it without any biases.

I'm not enough of an expert to put it on a presentation for anyone and talk about the 30% difference in how they are now running less 3-wide set or anything but I can tell you it doesn't pass the eyeball test this year.

Last year, they used their playmakers to perfection. This year, they don't. People talk about VOLUME for Shady but ignore the actual game flow. They keep forcing Sproles in and McCoy out in scenarios where Shady should be allowed to be a star. They have completely failed at developing Ertz to the next level despite anyone with a football interest being able to clearly tell you that he is the ideal TE for the type of difference-making TEs in today's game. They put the game in Sanchez's hands over Shady OR Sproles far too often, despite Sanchez missing passes everywhere. They ignore Matthews. The like Cooper.

It's just as obvious as they day is long: They are calling and running plays with complete and total disregard for the personnel they have. They act like their calls are good enough to make anyone succeed and they are wrong. They ignore the feel and flow of the game such as continuing to run this tempo when they are down 14-0 and putting their defense in a lurch.

I won't argue it past this point: Mine is just one opinion and I don't have enough fandom for the Eagles nor investment in Eagles fantasy players to care. I'm just saying what I see and to me it is obvious and the wins (losses) and the fantasy production (and lack thereof) support it. This team has a lot of talented players but Sanchez isn't the top of this list. There are teams out there that win games with far less talent. Philly seems reluctant to recognize theirs because I know there are teams out there that could put some of these guys to much better use (Philly has in the past. Why not continue with what works?).

This has nothing to with bias. You are creating a narrative without building it from the ground up with facts. The bolded are your opinions that are supposedly so obvious, yet the only defense that you are willing to mount is that it is your opinion.

Ertz played less this year because Celek had to be in more to block as they had offensive line woes. Ertz is not as good of a blocker.

Cooper has 2 fewer targets than Matthews. Cooper is in on more plays because he is a better blocker.

At many times during the year, Sproles has been more effective as a runner. Anyone who thinks that using Sproles as much as they have is a problem, has not watched many of the games.

They had problems with the line for a lot the year. Something is/was going on with Shady not trusting the blockers. They still fed him plenty.

Matthews is a rookie slot receiver. I don't know how much you can expect him to do. They've gotten the ball to Maclin a lot.

I am not saying that the coaches are perfect. I am sure that there are things that they could do better. But a lot of the issues have been offensive line woes and quarterback play. Sanchez is not getting it done on several levels and Foles was too tentative for whatever reason. Those are the primary reasons that a lot of these guys are not getting involved.

 

[unckeyherb]

I'm not enough of an expert to put it on a presentation for anyone and talk about the 30% difference in how they are now running less 3-wide set or anything but I can tell you it doesn't pass the eyeball test this year.

Last year, they used their playmakers to perfection. This year, they don't. People talk about VOLUME for Shady but ignore the actual game flow. They keep forcing Sproles in and McCoy out in scenarios where Shady should be allowed to be a star. They have completely failed at developing Ertz to the next level despite anyone with a football interest being able to clearly tell you that he is the ideal TE for the type of difference-making TEs in today's game. They put the game in Sanchez's hands over Shady OR Sproles far too often, despite Sanchez missing passes everywhere. They ignore Matthews. The like Cooper.

It's just as obvious as they day is long: They are calling and running plays with complete and total disregard for the personnel they have. They act like their calls are good enough to make anyone succeed and they are wrong. They ignore the feel and flow of the game such as continuing to run this tempo when they are down 14-0 and putting their defense in a lurch.

I won't argue it past this point: Mine is just one opinion and I don't have enough fandom for the Eagles nor investment in Eagles fantasy players to care. I'm just saying what I see and to me it is obvious and the wins (losses) and the fantasy production (and lack thereof) support it. This team has a lot of talented players but Sanchez isn't the top of this list. There are teams out there that win games with far less talent. Philly seems reluctant to recognize theirs because I know there are teams out there that could put some of these guys to much better use (Philly has in the past. Why not continue with what works?).

I don't agree with your entire sentiment, but the bolded is right on and it pisses me off. This happened a couple times last night on third down. Shady has had 45-50+ catches every year (78 in 2010) but all of a sudden he's getting pulled on third down? I love me some Sproles and I'm surprised they don't roll both out there at times, but c'mon.

 

[dhockster]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

Where in the world do you come up with all of this?

Were you crying about Shady's use last year?

And Kelly is a million times better at making adjustments than Reid.

This commentary is way off-base.

I'm not an Eagles fan nor an Eagles hater so I'm seeing it without any biases.

I'm not enough of an expert to put it on a presentation for anyone and talk about the 30% difference in how they are now running less 3-wide set or anything but I can tell you it doesn't pass the eyeball test this year.

Last year, they used their playmakers to perfection. This year, they don't. People talk about VOLUME for Shady but ignore the actual game flow. They keep forcing Sproles in and McCoy out in scenarios where Shady should be allowed to be a star. They have completely failed at developing Ertz to the next level despite anyone with a football interest being able to clearly tell you that he is the ideal TE for the type of difference-making TEs in today's game. They put the game in Sanchez's hands over Shady OR Sproles far too often, despite Sanchez missing passes everywhere. They ignore Matthews. The like Cooper.

It's just as obvious as they day is long: They are calling and running plays with complete and total disregard for the personnel they have. They act like their calls are good enough to make anyone succeed and they are wrong. They ignore the feel and flow of the game such as continuing to run this tempo when they are down 14-0 and putting their defense in a lurch.

I won't argue it past this point: Mine is just one opinion and I don't have enough fandom for the Eagles nor investment in Eagles fantasy players to care. I'm just saying what I see and to me it is obvious and the wins (losses) and the fantasy production (and lack thereof) support it. This team has a lot of talented players but Sanchez isn't the top of this list. There are teams out there that win games with far less talent. Philly seems reluctant to recognize theirs because I know there are teams out there that could put some of these guys to much better use (Philly has in the past. Why not continue with what works?).

A couple of points regarding the bolded:

-Matthews has 88 targets, Cooper has 84 targets this year. 6 targets a game for a slot receiver is not being ignored, and there is no indication they "like" Cooper more than Matthews.

-You do know that Sanchez is their backup QB, right? And he is playing because their starter got hurt? Yes, they have passed the ball more than they were last year, but a lot of that was due to the running game being ineffective because of injuries to the offensive line. It is great to say that they should just run the ball with Sanchez in there, but other teams also know that they would rather have Sanchez beat them then McCoy so they play defense accordingly. Chip Kelly's offense tries to take advantage of what the defense gives them. If Sanchez misses open receivers (which he has) that is not the fault of the playcalling if that was what the defense was giving to the offense.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

No Foles this week per Chip during his presser.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Specifically last night, the Cowboys defense stepped up. It looked like the Eagles O was gonna get rollin. Cowboys D started gettin to dirty and stopped the run. Pretty much what you guys did to us on Thanksgiving!

Has Shady lost a half step? He used to be able to wiggle out of the defender in the backfield stuff. He just doesn't seem quite as quick.

Go watch the play where he gets pushed out at the 1-- he's OBVIOUSLY lost a step. Everyone sees it. I'd say he is a lock to be cut.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Can't wait for Shady to end up in San Diego, Arizona, Minnesota, or somewhere where he's not gimmicked to death.

I know fantasy owners have just buried Shady all year long and saying he's not the same guy, etc, but when you watch the Eagles as a whole, it is clear that they have simply become what they were when they had Reid all over again: Victims of a system that refuses to lean on their actual talent.

THey simply let their charts and their grand brain trusts in their schemes dictate what they are going to do instead of having an actual feel for the game.

Love them or hate them, at least you can appreciate a team like, say, the Bengals, who take a guy like Hue Jackson and say "I am going to go with Hill and use the talent. Idon't have to be cute. I don't have to be gimmicky. I can get an actual feel for a game and if it's right, I am going to run this ball down the opponent's throat. Especially when I know my QB is a liability"

Same system last year and Shady did what? When he could actually make people miss and get the corner--He's doing neither this season

 

[Deamon]

15-4 Nick Foles record under Chip Kelly over two seasons

4-7 QBs not named Nick Foles in "Chip Kelly's magical system"

I can't wait until Chip gets his guy in the draft (let's not count Matt Barkley). Any QB can run this QB friendly offense. Just plug in play at the most important position in all of sports.

I'm confused if you are suggesting that Foles is great and is Chip's guy, or if anyone can run this qb friendly offense.

 

[Deamon]

The lack of talent in the secondary really chaps my ###. Its not like they are under-performing or plagued by injury. This is what everyone knew they were before the season started! Marcus Smith was a huge swingandamiss but so was going into the season with that defensive backfield and $15 million in cap space. Dez looked like he was sleepwalking thru one of those TD's.

And will someone please tell Cary Williams that if you are going to mug someone, a.) do it to Dez, not T Williams and b.) at LEAST turn your head to look for the ball! ####### brutal to watch the same bull#### from him week in and week out.

I think we were after Clinton-Dix and stupid Green Bay trade ruined that for us

 

[Deamon]

Rough game. That being said, I think if the Eagles take care of business against WAS and NYG, they get in. Luck won't miss the throws Sanchez did. In fact, any half-way decent QB wouldn't.

I personally think they beat WAS, but I shudder to think what Beckham will do to that secondary when they play NY.

Hopefully the Eagles will do something the Redskins supposedly did not do, which is double and triple team him.

quadruple team please.

 

[Deamon]

What is McCoy's contract situation next year?

McCoy is under contract for 3 more years. His cap number is $12M next year. If cut he costs about $4.5M in dead money so we would realize a $7.5M cap savings if we cut him.

He's gone.

He comes off of the field last night yelling "I F'ing hate football man!" I wanted to punch him.

Maybe I'm missing the context in which it happened and I'm not a McCoy fan but don't you want to see this type of anger and passion out of the players?

The anger/ passion usually comes off with players cursing or slaming things etc. I havent heard one say they hated football. Shady is usually a very upbeat player with a good attitude..it was odd hearing that is all

I don't think he actually hates football or that means he doesn't have passion for it.

You have no idea how many times I said "I F*CKING HATE FANTASY FOOTBALL!" yesterday, yet I surely will still be back.

 

[Deamon]

Our season could essentially be over this week. Even if Seattle loses, if Detroit and Dallas both win, they'll be 11-4 with no way to catch them. We'd have to hope for a Wash win over Dallas (and that just isn't happening) or Seattle loss to Stl.

With as great as this season has been, it'd be a huge disappointment to miss the playoffs.

Ya. After 5-1 going into the bye, or 7-2 heading to green bay, its crazy to think we might miss playoffs.

 

[fred_1_15301]

15-4 Nick Foles record under Chip Kelly over two seasons

4-7 QBs not named Nick Foles in "Chip Kelly's magical system"

I can't wait until Chip gets his guy in the draft (let's not count Matt Barkley). Any QB can run this QB friendly offense. Just plug in play at the most important position in all of sports.

I'm confused if you are suggesting that Foles is great and is Chip's guy, or if anyone can run this qb friendly offense.

He was being sarcastic. He's one of the biggest Foles supporters on this site. Foles certainly gives the Eagles a significant upgrade over their other 2 options.

 

[Deamon]

Specifically last night, the Cowboys defense stepped up. It looked like the Eagles O was gonna get rollin. Cowboys D started gettin to dirty and stopped the run. Pretty much what you guys did to us on Thanksgiving!

Has Shady lost a half step? He used to be able to wiggle out of the defender in the backfield stuff. He just doesn't seem quite as quick.

Go watch the play where he gets pushed out at the 1-- he's OBVIOUSLY lost a step. Everyone sees it. I'd say he is a lock to be cut.

No way Shady is cut. I know he doesn't look AS good as last year, but what is the better option? I know some people are talking about grabbing Spiller, but that guy is so injury prone it's not even funny. I'm not sure I see Polk as our answer as an every down back in an offense that everyone is screaming at to run the ball more. Spiller/Polk/Sproles would actually be pretty good and I wouldn't be that unhappyw ith it, but we aren't a team worried or riding the cap line that closely where it makes sense to let the NFL's 4th leading rusher walk for nothing.

 

[Deamon]

15-4 Nick Foles record under Chip Kelly over two seasons

4-7 QBs not named Nick Foles in "Chip Kelly's magical system"

I can't wait until Chip gets his guy in the draft (let's not count Matt Barkley). Any QB can run this QB friendly offense. Just plug in play at the most important position in all of sports.

I'm confused if you are suggesting that Foles is great and is Chip's guy, or if anyone can run this qb friendly offense.

He was being sarcastic. He's one of the biggest Foles supporters on this site. Foles certainly gives the Eagles a significant upgrade over their other 2 options.

I sensed sarcasm a little but wasn't sure. Sounded like he was suggesting that Chip's guy (Foles) can do so well, that if we REALLY get Chip's guy (Mariota, etc), it would be unstoppable. I bet he's licking his chops for Mariota but I don't think there's a chance in hell we get him.

 

[fred_1_15301]

It would be almost absurd to give up what they would have to in order to get Mariota. It's not like he's even a sure bet to success like Andrew Luck was. They are much better off going with Foles and hoping he turns out to be the franchise QB with a healthy line protecting him.

 

[jasvic]

With all of the holes in the secondary and the average age of the o-line, throwing away that many picks on Mariota would be criminal.

 

[dhockster]

It would be almost absurd to give up what they would have to in order to get Mariota. It's not like he's even a sure bet to success like Andrew Luck was. They are much better off going with Foles and hoping he turns out to be the franchise QB with a healthy line protecting him.

I think in Chip's offense, Mariotta is a lot closer to a sure thing than he is in another offense. The problem is the Eagles still won't be able to get him based on what they would have to give up.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

The Mariota talk is ridiculous. The QB (Foles) isn't the problem, it's their secondary. I would honestly draft four guys in the 2015 that were CB/S. They got cute in this year's draft and it bit them in the ###.

 

[Deamon]

The Mariota talk is ridiculous. The QB (Foles) isn't the problem, it's their secondary. I would honestly draft four guys in the 2015 that were CB/S. They got cute in this year's draft and it bit them in the ###.

Again I don't think they "got cute". Seemed pretty clear from the way the draft went (and from what Chip even admitted afterwards), that they had 4 guys targetted and people traded up and grabbed them before they could. I think the Smith pick was a "#####, everyone we wanted is gone, what the hell are we gonna do". I doubt they even felt good with that pick afterwards.

 

[Deamon]

Demarco Murray broke his hand and might miss Week 16. The Eagles are alive!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Specifically last night, the Cowboys defense stepped up. It looked like the Eagles O was gonna get rollin. Cowboys D started gettin to dirty and stopped the run. Pretty much what you guys did to us on Thanksgiving!

Has Shady lost a half step? He used to be able to wiggle out of the defender in the backfield stuff. He just doesn't seem quite as quick.

Go watch the play where he gets pushed out at the 1-- he's OBVIOUSLY lost a step. Everyone sees it. I'd say he is a lock to be cut.

No way Shady is cut. I know he doesn't look AS good as last year, but what is the better option? I know some people are talking about grabbing Spiller, but that guy is so injury prone it's not even funny. I'm not sure I see Polk as our answer as an every down back in an offense that everyone is screaming at to run the ball more. Spiller/Polk/Sproles would actually be pretty good and I wouldn't be that unhappyw ith it, but we aren't a team worried or riding the cap line that closely where it makes sense to let the NFL's 4th leading rusher walk for nothing.

Remember when there wasnt a chance Desean was cut either? 10+ million for a RB, who seems to have lost a step doesnt make sense. With the way RB's fall in drafts now you can get a good/ great one in the 2nd round. Out of the top 10 rushers this season only 1 (Lynch whos on his second team) was picked before round 2 pick 16 and that was Bell. RB's come very easy and hardly any cost 10+ million. Hell, they may seriously have a better than average chance of getting Murray (They're tagging Dez at the worst) or Adrian Peterson for less than 10 million per year.

 

[Deamon]

Specifically last night, the Cowboys defense stepped up. It looked like the Eagles O was gonna get rollin. Cowboys D started gettin to dirty and stopped the run. Pretty much what you guys did to us on Thanksgiving!

Has Shady lost a half step? He used to be able to wiggle out of the defender in the backfield stuff. He just doesn't seem quite as quick.

Go watch the play where he gets pushed out at the 1-- he's OBVIOUSLY lost a step. Everyone sees it. I'd say he is a lock to be cut.

No way Shady is cut. I know he doesn't look AS good as last year, but what is the better option? I know some people are talking about grabbing Spiller, but that guy is so injury prone it's not even funny. I'm not sure I see Polk as our answer as an every down back in an offense that everyone is screaming at to run the ball more. Spiller/Polk/Sproles would actually be pretty good and I wouldn't be that unhappyw ith it, but we aren't a team worried or riding the cap line that closely where it makes sense to let the NFL's 4th leading rusher walk for nothing.

Remember when there wasnt a chance Desean was cut either? 10+ million for a RB, who seems to have lost a step doesnt make sense. With the way RB's fall in drafts now you can get a good/ great one in the 2nd round. Out of the top 10 rushers this season only 1 (Lynch whos on his second team) was picked before round 2 pick 16 and that was Bell. RB's come very easy and hardly any cost 10+ million. Hell, they may seriously have a better than average chance of getting Murray (They're tagging Dez at the worst) or Adrian Peterson for less than 10 million per year.

Murray here would be absolutely crazy haha. I guess that very well could happen though.

Also, with all the holes on defense, i don't see us drafting our new starting RB in the 3rd round next year.

 

[Deamon]

Cowboys early line: Cowboys are -2

 

[ShaHBucks]

15-4 Nick Foles record under Chip Kelly over two seasons

4-7 QBs not named Nick Foles in "Chip Kelly's magical system"

I can't wait until Chip gets his guy in the draft (let's not count Matt Barkley). Any QB can run this QB friendly offense. Just plug in play at the most important position in all of sports.

I'm confused if you are suggesting that Foles is great and is Chip's guy, or if anyone can run this qb friendly offense.

He was being sarcastic. He's one of the biggest Foles supporters on this site. Foles certainly gives the Eagles a significant upgrade over their other 2 options.

I sensed sarcasm a little but wasn't sure. Sounded like he was suggesting that Chip's guy (Foles) can do so well, that if we REALLY get Chip's guy (Mariota, etc), it would be unstoppable. I bet he's licking his chops for Mariota but I don't think there's a chance in hell we get him.

I'll be here ####ting on the Mariota/Winston talk as well.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

15-4 Nick Foles record under Chip Kelly over two seasons

4-7 QBs not named Nick Foles in "Chip Kelly's magical system"

I can't wait until Chip gets his guy in the draft (let's not count Matt Barkley). Any QB can run this QB friendly offense. Just plug in play at the most important position in all of sports.

I'm confused if you are suggesting that Foles is great and is Chip's guy, or if anyone can run this qb friendly offense.

He was being sarcastic. He's one of the biggest Foles supporters on this site. Foles certainly gives the Eagles a significant upgrade over their other 2 options.

I sensed sarcasm a little but wasn't sure. Sounded like he was suggesting that Chip's guy (Foles) can do so well, that if we REALLY get Chip's guy (Mariota, etc), it would be unstoppable. I bet he's licking his chops for Mariota but I don't think there's a chance in hell we get him.

I'll be here ####ting on the Mariota/Winston talk as well.

What you dont want to trade Cox, Kendricks and like 3 first round picks for a couple bust QB's???!!!