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*** Official 2014 San Diego Chargers **** (1 Viewer)

yep, saw this when I was at the beach earlier and it almost ruined my day. I was probably more excited about Ingram this season than any other Charger.

Beginning to feel like Super Melvin is never going to be the dominant player he has the potential to be. Very, VERY frustrating.

 
Shawne Merriman, Larry English, Melvin Ingram. No first-round Charger OLB can stay on the field. At least Merriman had a couple years.

(I don't want to jinx Freeney.)

 
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Look, the Chargers just might be the best team in the AFC.

They beat the Seahawks. They got dinged up and are missing some key players and still crossed 3 time zones and beat the Bills by 2 scores. The one team they lost to, the Cardinals, just beat the 49ers.

The Chargers should win the next 3 games and be 5-1 heading into the Chiefs game.

 
Riversco said:
Candidate for best Chargers photo of the season:

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Rivers - the best QB in the NFL so far this season? I guess Matt Ryan could make a case.

Apart from the fumbled snap (which quite probably cost them a W), I can't think of many mistakes or bad decisions the guy has made this year.

Sucks about Ingram, I guess you just can't count on the guy.

Trap game vs. the Jags this week.

 
I'm starting to lose a bit of hope; the injuries are beginning to pile up.

When healthy, this team is in that tier just below the Broncos in the AFC, IMO. But it's starting to look like health is going to cost us yet again. The Hardwick, Woodhead, and Ingram injuries are devastating.

 
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tommyGunZ said:
I'm starting to lose a bit of hope; the injuries are beginning to pile up.

When healthy, this team is in that tier just below the Broncos in the AFC, IMO. But it's starting to look like health is going to cost us yet again. The Hardwick, Woodhead, and Ingram injuries are devastating.
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Ingram might come back, while Woodhead is a better NFL player than FF player, I think he can be easily replaced. hes very one dimensional and for now Rivers has plenty of targets, not like he has to throw to the backs when royal,floyd, allen gates & green are all 100%

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
tommyGunZ said:
I'm starting to lose a bit of hope; the injuries are beginning to pile up.

When healthy, this team is in that tier just below the Broncos in the AFC, IMO. But it's starting to look like health is going to cost us yet again. The Hardwick, Woodhead, and Ingram injuries are devastating.
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Ingram might come back, while Woodhead is a better NFL player than FF player, I think he can be easily replaced. hes very one dimensional and for now Rivers has plenty of targets, not like he has to throw to the backs when royal,floyd, allen gates & green are all 100%
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I hope you're right. You're certainly right about Ingram, and I guess the optimistic POV is that Ingram should be full of gas and energized come playoff time.

I think we'll miss Woodhead. Hopefully Oliver will surprise, but Woodhead caught everything and it seemed like he always found the small crease that allowed for and additional 3-4 yards either on handoffs or swing passes. Letting go of Sproles has turned out to be a disaster.

 
The Cardinals signed Grice off the Chargers' practice squad today. HTF do the Chargers let that happen? So they've got 2 functional running backs on the roster now. Can't wait to see Willis McGahee in a Charger uni. :rant:

 
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tommyGunZ said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
tommyGunZ said:
I'm starting to lose a bit of hope; the injuries are beginning to pile up.

When healthy, this team is in that tier just below the Broncos in the AFC, IMO. But it's starting to look like health is going to cost us yet again. The Hardwick, Woodhead, and Ingram injuries are devastating.
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Ingram might come back, while Woodhead is a better NFL player than FF player, I think he can be easily replaced. hes very one dimensional and for now Rivers has plenty of targets, not like he has to throw to the backs when royal,floyd, allen gates & green are all 100%
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I hope you're right. You're certainly right about Ingram, and I guess the optimistic POV is that Ingram should be full of gas and energized come playoff time.

I think we'll miss Woodhead. Hopefully Oliver will surprise, but Woodhead caught everything and it seemed like he always found the small crease that allowed for and additional 3-4 yards either on handoffs or swing passes. Letting go of Sproles has turned out to be a disaster.
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I dunno, the legend of Sproles has gotten completely out of hand. His entire career he broke 1k combined yards from scrimmage once in the decade he's been in the league. He's a nice story.

Telesco deserves a lot of credit for having more RB and pass rusher depth than he had last year. Waiting for Mathews/Ingram to come back is difficult but at least there are guys to step in and fill those roles now. The larger problem to me was going into the season with Hardwick and not bringing in a guy to groom as his replacement. Both sides of the line are still the weak link of this team even after the injuries. If you actually watch Donald Brown's carries, he isn't missing many holes. There is nowhere to run imo. The DL has looked better than it really is imo. In week 1 Ellington was questionable to even play, Lynch looked like a completely different guy because of his back, and for some reason BUF kept giving Spiller chances to break the long one despite the fact SD was completely unable to stop Fred Jackson.

I'm not as bummed about Grice as some seem to be. He doesn't look ready to take over the third down duty imo and if a rookie messes up an assignment on a passing down it could take Rivers out. I would rather sign a guy like BJGE to take over the Mathews running down role, when Mathews comes back let him play both run and passing downs, and let a seasoned vet like Donald Brown take over the Woodhead role on the passing downs. He'll never be a Woodhead receiver but he's a better pass blocker. Until Mathews comes back I wouldn't mind seeing what Oliver has to contribute.

 
Bucky86 said:
Gr00vus said:
The Cardinals signed Grice off the Chargers' practice squad today. HTF do the Chargers let that happen? So they've got 2 functional running backs on the roster now. Can't wait to see Willis McGahee in a Charger uni. :rant:
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I know it's a small sample size, but after being very excited to see Grice play in the preseason didn't Oliver look much, much better?

 
BoltBacker said:
Bucky86 said:
Gr00vus said:
The Cardinals signed Grice off the Chargers' practice squad today. HTF do the Chargers let that happen? So they've got 2 functional running backs on the roster now. Can't wait to see Willis McGahee in a Charger uni. :rant:
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I know it's a small sample size, but after being very excited to see Grice play in the preseason didn't Oliver look much, much better?
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Oliver looked much better in the first game. They somewhat evened out after that.

 
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Now Manti is out for an extended period of time with a fracture in his foot.

This team is snakebit.
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Yeah, not good. I'm sure this means Arizona will sign Cordero Law from the Chargers' practice squad any minute now (I realize Law is an OLB, but still).

 
What's the deal with Donald Brown? Thought he was a pretty good 'back, box score doesn't say much. Didn't see much of the game either.

 
Good win, but the injuries are getting ridiculous. The schedule has been kind so far but with no bye until week 10 things could get rough after this week.

 
The early schedule has made the Chargers look better than they really are. They are 5-1, and the 5 wins are over teams with a collective record of 4-18. Even the Seattle win has now lost some of its luster.

However, the offense is playing well, despite numerous injuries. There is every reason to believe they will continue to play well as long as Rivers is healthy.

I definitely expect some games to be lost by the defense.

 
Disagree strongly with those who are suggesting the Chargers "aren't as good as their 5-1 record suggests". They've outplayed every opponent, including the Cardinals, IMO.

Division games on the road are never gimmies. The Raiders are not completely devoid of talent and they were rested and highly motivated yesterday.

10 win formula is 4 road wins and winning 6 out of 8 at home. We are half way to both 6 games in, despite being absolutely crushed by injuries. Even if the team fell apart and played .500 ball moving fwd we're likely a wild card.

 
tommyGunZ said:
Disagree strongly with those who are suggesting the Chargers "aren't as good as their 5-1 record suggests". They've outplayed every opponent, including the Cardinals, IMO.

Division games on the road are never gimmies. The Raiders are not completely devoid of talent and they were rested and highly motivated yesterday.

10 win formula is 4 road wins and winning 6 out of 8 at home. We are half way to both 6 games in, despite being absolutely crushed by injuries. Even if the team fell apart and played .500 ball moving fwd we're likely a wild card.
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10 wins looks like a minimum to me - KC, @MIA, Oak, STL, and @KC (admittedly that's always tough).

 
I really wish the Chargers had their bye this week. We need to get healthy on defense for the home stretch.

 
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Disagree strongly with those who are suggesting the Chargers "aren't as good as their 5-1 record suggests". They've outplayed every opponent, including the Cardinals, IMO.

Division games on the road are never gimmies. The Raiders are not completely devoid of talent and they were rested and highly motivated yesterday.

10 win formula is 4 road wins and winning 6 out of 8 at home. We are half way to both 6 games in, despite being absolutely crushed by injuries. Even if the team fell apart and played .500 ball moving fwd we're likely a wild card.
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I wholeheartedly agree.

One tough week against a divisional opponent on the road amped up for a new coach shouldn't diminish an exceptional start.

And while the Chargers dominated the Jets, Denver had MUCH more difficulty with them then the Chargers did and no one is downgrading them.

 
cstu said:
tommyGunZ said:
Disagree strongly with those who are suggesting the Chargers "aren't as good as their 5-1 record suggests". They've outplayed every opponent, including the Cardinals, IMO.

Division games on the road are never gimmies. The Raiders are not completely devoid of talent and they were rested and highly motivated yesterday.

10 win formula is 4 road wins and winning 6 out of 8 at home. We are half way to both 6 games in, despite being absolutely crushed by injuries. Even if the team fell apart and played .500 ball moving fwd we're likely a wild card.
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10 wins looks like a minimum to me - KC, @MIA, Oak, STL, and @KC (admittedly that's always tough).
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I think 'Gunz has reason to be optimistic, but while SD may be favored in those 5 I'm not expecting SD to win all of them. SD swept KC last year, but by the skin of their teeth playing one game vs the varsity team and one game against the JV team. I am glad the STL game is at home because the Rams may not be a great team but I think they present matchup problems for SD. The Chargers lost in MIA last year(West coast teams usually have trouble with early starts on the east coast) and you never know when the coin is going to fall and the new offense starts working in MIA. They have the weapons to score a lot of points. At least they have a lot more weapons than oak did on Sunday.

 
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As an aside, everyone always gushes over the old powder blue Chargers jerseys, but these are my favorite.

1979-1984

Then they got progressively darker/worse.
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I agree; I love those. But part of the reason I love them is because of Fouts, J.J., Winslow, Stallworth, Joiner, Muncie . . . the uniforms probably wouldn't look so cool to me if they'd been from the Ryan Leaf era. In other words, it's not just the uniforms themselves; it's the nostalgia they evoke.

(Powder Blues = Ernie Ladd = before my time.)

 
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Those things almost look like the old Rams uniform. Its almost the same color set and the pants are very close. No WAY should they go back to that.

 
I give a lot of credit to KC's defense today but I'm also very concerned about the mass exodus to the injury list on defense. As seen today, Richard Marshall on the other team's #1 receiver is not close to acceptable.

 
BoltBacker said:
cstu said:
tommyGunZ said:
Disagree strongly with those who are suggesting the Chargers "aren't as good as their 5-1 record suggests". They've outplayed every opponent, including the Cardinals, IMO.

Division games on the road are never gimmies. The Raiders are not completely devoid of talent and they were rested and highly motivated yesterday.

10 win formula is 4 road wins and winning 6 out of 8 at home. We are half way to both 6 games in, despite being absolutely crushed by injuries. Even if the team fell apart and played .500 ball moving fwd we're likely a wild card.
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10 wins looks like a minimum to me - KC, @MIA, Oak, STL, and @KC (admittedly that's always tough).
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I think 'Gunz has reason to be optimistic, but while SD may be favored in those 5 I'm not expecting SD to win all of them. SD swept KC last year, but by the skin of their teeth playing one game vs the varsity team and one game against the JV team. I am glad the STL game is at home because the Rams may not be a great team but I think they present matchup problems for SD. The Chargers lost in MIA last year(West coast teams usually have trouble with early starts on the east coast) and you never know when the coin is going to fall and the new offense starts working in MIA. They have the weapons to score a lot of points. At least they have a lot more weapons than oak did on Sunday.
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Er, 9 win minimum.

 
SD ran into the master of the post bye week win. Reid has been doing it for years. He's like 13-2 post bye (well, 14-2 now).

Defense didn't look good, Rivers was a bit off, all in all wasn't a good game.

 
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SD ran into the master of the post bye week win. Reid has been doing it for years. He's like 13-2 post bye (well, 14-2 now).

Defense didn't look good, Rivers was a bit off, all in all wasn't a good game.
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It is kind of BS we have 3 division games in a row...2 of them are teams right off a bye and the 3rd is a short week on the road. :rant:

 
I have a bad, bad feeling about Thursday night. If Verrett and Flowers are out, we are going to get hammered.

Denver -7 seems like free money.

 
tommyGunZ said:
I have a bad, bad feeling about Thursday night. If Verrett and Flowers are out, we are going to get hammered.

Denver -7 seems like free money.
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I agree. Verrett, Flowers, Attaochu, Teo, Ingram, and Steve Williams were all on the injury report today.

I hope they don't rush anyone back for this game who would be at any increased risk. This game was always a likely loss. It isn't necessary for the Chargers to win this game to achieve their season goals.

Hopefully all of these players (plus Mathews and Brown) will be healthy in the week 15 rematch.

I'm actually more worried about the Miami game. IIRC the last time the Chargers won in Miami was 1982, and they have lost 7 straight games there.

 
Chargers released CB Richard Marshall.

It could be taken as a vote of confidence in Brandon Flowers (concussion) and Jason Verrett's (shoulder) health, but more than anything, it's probably just a reflection of Marshall's abysmal play. Marshall got abused in Thursday's loss to the Broncos, and has been a liability all season. It's still surprising to see the Bolts release a player who's played 289 snaps, especially considering their injury issues at corner. It speaks to how poorly they believe Marshall has played. Two months shy of his 30th birthday, Marshall will be greeted by a cold market. Oct 27 - 3:03 PM
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I think the Chargers' playoff chances are in jeopardy. If 10 wins are needed to make it, given their schedule, they need to win the next 3: @MIA, OAK, STL. Because the last 5 games are @BAL, NE, DEN, @SF, @KC. Three road games against teams that may be battling to make the playoffs, and two home games against the likely top 2 seeds in the AFC. It's hard to see more than 2 wins against that group, and that will be challenging.

But now -- the must win games -- is when the injuries are at their worst. It's going to be tough. That KC home loss was a crusher and could end up costing them a playoff bid.

 
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