*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Village Idiot]

If USC can get their QB situation figured out (I think that means Max Browne rather than Max Wittek) look for them to be back competing next year for a BCS Bowl game. Their schedule: no Oregon, Stanford at home. At Notre Dame will be tough, but their other non-conference opponents are at Hawaii, and Boston College and Utah State at home. Meanwhile, my Bruins have to play at Nebraska, at Oregon, at Stanford, and at USC. I think ending up in the top 25 is a long shot...

Tim, you forgot who is still the Head Coach at USC.He is the master of underperforming teams.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Wow, Tommy Tuberville seems like a ####.My link

When Dantonio took over he basically started over with recruiting, erased all the old offers, and took all his own guys and nobody even cared then. This year, it seems to be a big deal that Tuberville didn't want a few of the kids that Butch had committed. Is this uncommon for new coaches? Since our other recent hires did the same thing, I had assumed it was normal.Bottom line is Tuberville should be able to get a higher level of recruit than Jones/UC had coming in (he already has in several cases) and it's not surprising some of the kids are bitter about it.

It's just the media jumping on Tubby because he "supposedly" did some shady stuff at Texas Tech. I do think that Tubby should have called the kids and told them that he wasn't interested in them.

 

[GeauxTigers]

What's the logic of the Pac-12 putting it's marquee game of the year on a Thursday night going head to head against the NFL?http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/10/3861610/2013-pac-12-football-schedule

The Pac-12 title game is on a Saturday.

Seriously, though, it looks like it was a decision that was made by the Pac-12 with a HUGE amount of input by ESPN. ESPN and the Pac-12 selected the Thursday dates and then plugged in the games they wanted. It sounds like they were trying to avoid showdowns with big SEC matchups on Saturdays to attract more college football fan eyeballs. Because, let's face it, more people will be watching LSU-Alabama on Saturday than Oregon-Stanford, and putting that game up against that LSU-Alabama is a losing proposition at this point. At least this way, you might get a lot of the eyeballs that will also be watching the LSU-Alabama on Saturday by moving it to Thursday.Or maybe the NFL will crush them, too. But, just judging by this board alone, there are a lot of NFL fans that are not college fans and vice versa. So, who knows.

I'm excited that this game in on Thursday night. I love when an important game in on Thursday night.

 

[Moe.]

What's the logic of the Pac-12 putting it's marquee game of the year on a Thursday night going head to head against the NFL?http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/10/3861610/2013-pac-12-football-schedule

The Pac-12 title game is on a Saturday.

Seriously, though, it looks like it was a decision that was made by the Pac-12 with a HUGE amount of input by ESPN. ESPN and the Pac-12 selected the Thursday dates and then plugged in the games they wanted. It sounds like they were trying to avoid showdowns with big SEC matchups on Saturdays to attract more college football fan eyeballs. Because, let's face it, more people will be watching LSU-Alabama on Saturday than Oregon-Stanford, and putting that game up against that LSU-Alabama is a losing proposition at this point. At least this way, you might get a lot of the eyeballs that will also be watching the LSU-Alabama on Saturday by moving it to Thursday.Or maybe the NFL will crush them, too. But, just judging by this board alone, there are a lot of NFL fans that are not college fans and vice versa. So, who knows.

I'm excited that this game in on Thursday night. I love when an important game in on Thursday night.

Agreed. Thursday night games were all pretty much duds this year, and far too often the best two or three games of the week were all Saturday during primetime. The more spread out the marquee games are the better.

 

[Christo]

What's the logic of the Pac-12 putting it's marquee game of the year on a Thursday night going head to head against the NFL?http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/10/3861610/2013-pac-12-football-schedule

The Pac-12 title game is on a Saturday.

Seriously, though, it looks like it was a decision that was made by the Pac-12 with a HUGE amount of input by ESPN. ESPN and the Pac-12 selected the Thursday dates and then plugged in the games they wanted. It sounds like they were trying to avoid showdowns with big SEC matchups on Saturdays to attract more college football fan eyeballs. Because, let's face it, more people will be watching LSU-Alabama on Saturday than Oregon-Stanford, and putting that game up against that LSU-Alabama is a losing proposition at this point. At least this way, you might get a lot of the eyeballs that will also be watching the LSU-Alabama on Saturday by moving it to Thursday.Or maybe the NFL will crush them, too. But, just judging by this board alone, there are a lot of NFL fans that are not college fans and vice versa. So, who knows.

I'm excited that this game in on Thursday night. I love when an important game in on Thursday night.

Agreed. Thursday night games were all pretty much duds this year, and far too often the best two or three games of the week were all Saturday during primetime. The more spread out the marquee games are the better.

F the NFL for that stupid Thursday night schedule. They gave us lukewarm match-ups. But it drove good CFB match-ups off ESPN

 

[shader]

Seems odd to me that Kelly would go on vacation this week, after already falling behind everyone else on closing the recruiting cycle with BCS prep. I know they have a good class...but that could change quickly.

Climax of the season just ended- don't see any problem with vacationing now, recharging the battery, and starting anew next week. Guy just finished working for almost 6 straight months, probably a lot of crazy hours too. Spend some time with the family and start mentally preparing for next season.

Meanwhile Nick Saban is working his ### off.

Saban is that guy that works 100 hour weeks with no life to create an A+ product. Competitors see his success and demand the same result from their guys, which even if they work 100 hour weeks they may not be able to do. As a college coach I would be looking for the boss that demands your best, but doesn't expect you to work that crazy amount of hours year round to make it happen. Work-life balance.

During his press conference he said something to the affect of "We'll enjoy it for 2 days then start working on next year". I'd shoot myself if my job demanded that of me. Screw looking for a different job.

Ridiculous Commish.Your job probably gives you what, 2-3 weeks of vacation a year? Why should a college coach be any different?Saban/Meyer and some of the new breed really annoyed the Tuberville's and Spurriers of the world when they turned college coaching into a year-long thing. But why shouldn't it be? They get paid 3-5 million, they need to work every day like the rest of us.The entire point gump was making was that this is the worst time to take a vacation, and he was right. That being said, perhaps Kelly thinks he has this class wrapped up, which may be true. Saban can vacation after signing day. But right now he has a lot to do. Unless he just decides that he doesn't want to win championships anymore.Yeah to a fan it seems crazy to not enjoy this win. But Saban has one job for 2013. Win another championship. If Urban Meyer is working, and Chip Kelly is working, and Les Miles is working...Saban has to work. He can't sit back and smoke a cigar for January. If he does, he's behind the 8-ball.

 

[shader]

What's the logic of the Pac-12 putting it's marquee game of the year on a Thursday night going head to head against the NFL?http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/1/10/3861610/2013-pac-12-football-schedule

The Pac-12 title game is on a Saturday.

Seriously, though, it looks like it was a decision that was made by the Pac-12 with a HUGE amount of input by ESPN. ESPN and the Pac-12 selected the Thursday dates and then plugged in the games they wanted. It sounds like they were trying to avoid showdowns with big SEC matchups on Saturdays to attract more college football fan eyeballs. Because, let's face it, more people will be watching LSU-Alabama on Saturday than Oregon-Stanford, and putting that game up against that LSU-Alabama is a losing proposition at this point. At least this way, you might get a lot of the eyeballs that will also be watching the LSU-Alabama on Saturday by moving it to Thursday.Or maybe the NFL will crush them, too. But, just judging by this board alone, there are a lot of NFL fans that are not college fans and vice versa. So, who knows.

I'm excited that this game in on Thursday night. I love when an important game in on Thursday night.

Agreed. Thursday night games were all pretty much duds this year, and far too often the best two or three games of the week were all Saturday during primetime. The more spread out the marquee games are the better.

F the NFL for that stupid Thursday night schedule. They gave us lukewarm match-ups. But it drove good CFB match-ups off ESPN

Thursday night was a huge bust.

 

[The Commish]

Seems odd to me that Kelly would go on vacation this week, after already falling behind everyone else on closing the recruiting cycle with BCS prep. I know they have a good class...but that could change quickly.

Climax of the season just ended- don't see any problem with vacationing now, recharging the battery, and starting anew next week. Guy just finished working for almost 6 straight months, probably a lot of crazy hours too. Spend some time with the family and start mentally preparing for next season.

Meanwhile Nick Saban is working his ### off.

Saban is that guy that works 100 hour weeks with no life to create an A+ product. Competitors see his success and demand the same result from their guys, which even if they work 100 hour weeks they may not be able to do. As a college coach I would be looking for the boss that demands your best, but doesn't expect you to work that crazy amount of hours year round to make it happen. Work-life balance.

During his press conference he said something to the affect of "We'll enjoy it for 2 days then start working on next year". I'd shoot myself if my job demanded that of me. Screw looking for a different job.

Ridiculous Commish.Your job probably gives you what, 2-3 weeks of vacation a year? Why should a college coach be any different?Saban/Meyer and some of the new breed really annoyed the Tuberville's and Spurriers of the world when they turned college coaching into a year-long thing. But why shouldn't it be? They get paid 3-5 million, they need to work every day like the rest of us.The entire point gump was making was that this is the worst time to take a vacation, and he was right. That being said, perhaps Kelly thinks he has this class wrapped up, which may be true. Saban can vacation after signing day. But right now he has a lot to do. Unless he just decides that he doesn't want to win championships anymore.Yeah to a fan it seems crazy to not enjoy this win. But Saban has one job for 2013. Win another championship. If Urban Meyer is working, and Chip Kelly is working, and Les Miles is working...Saban has to work. He can't sit back and smoke a cigar for January. If he does, he's behind the 8-ball.

I'd say that I'm shocked that you COMPLETELY missed the point again, but at this point....well, nevermind.

 

[gump]

Alabama's losing Dee Milliner, DJ Fluker, and Eddie Lacy (so far in the last two days).

That'll be it, and no surprises. A few 2nd tier guys decided to come back....It was big to get Mosley back, despite a potential 1st round....and while AJ wouldn't have been a high pick, big to have him back too.

 

[GStrot]

@DanWetzel: Notre Dame still No. 1 in one BCS computer http://t.co/H1VJGaMe By Alabama historical standards, that's a claimed national title

Really low blow. Untrue too

What is untrue?

It's basically true...and funny and timely. But it's not like we did anything others didn't from those days. And I don't think many would claim one as bad as the above....our '41 claim is pretty bad....'66 a little iffy...but we got completely screwed in '65 and some think '77 was a shaft...pretty much evens out. But '41 is usually the one people latch on to.Coincidentally, the highly-respected Alabama beat writer Cecil Hurt is lobbying for a removal of '41 from our list...and is getting a lot of support.

1973

 

[gump]

@DanWetzel: Notre Dame still No. 1 in one BCS computer http://t.co/H1VJGaMe By Alabama historical standards, that's a claimed national title

Really low blow. Untrue too

What is untrue?

It's basically true...and funny and timely. But it's not like we did anything others didn't from those days. And I don't think many would claim one as bad as the above....our '41 claim is pretty bad....'66 a little iffy...but we got completely screwed in '65 and some think '77 was a shaft...pretty much evens out. But '41 is usually the one people latch on to.Coincidentally, the highly-respected Alabama beat writer Cecil Hurt is lobbying for a removal of '41 from our list...and is getting a lot of support.

1973

MNC were awarded before bowl games. The flip side happened a few times...such as '66 and I believe '77.

 

[Christo]

@DanWetzel: Notre Dame still No. 1 in one BCS computer http://t.co/H1VJGaMe By Alabama historical standards, that's a claimed national title

Really low blow. Untrue too

What is untrue?

It's basically true...and funny and timely. But it's not like we did anything others didn't from those days. And I don't think many would claim one as bad as the above....our '41 claim is pretty bad....'66 a little iffy...but we got completely screwed in '65 and some think '77 was a shaft...pretty much evens out. But '41 is usually the one people latch on to.Coincidentally, the highly-respected Alabama beat writer Cecil Hurt is lobbying for a removal of '41 from our list...and is getting a lot of support.

Don't lump-in everyone with this. OU doesn't claim '15 or '49 and they were undefeated and had more wins than the other teams claiming NCs those years.

 

[Premier]

Man these counted championships from 40-50 years ago when nobody played anybody and there was no real data are just so dumb. They should be an afterthought like pre-Super Bowl titles are.

 

[Christo]

Man these counted championships from 40-50 years ago when nobody played anybody and there was no real data are just so dumb. They should be an afterthought like pre-Super Bowl titles are.

I think the NCAA "recognizes" NCs starting in 1936.

 

[Christo]

And to say nobody played anybody is not accurate. During OU's 47 game winning streak in the mid-50s they played Texas (5), Nebraska (4), Oklahoma State (4), Maryland (2), California, TCU, North Carolina (2) & Pittsburgh (2).And Notre Dame was the team that broke the streak.

 

[gump]

Man these counted championships from 40-50 years ago when nobody played anybody and there was no real data are just so dumb. They should be an afterthought like pre-Super Bowl titles are.

I think the NCAA "recognizes" NCs starting in 1936.

Yea...since the AP began awarding i believe. The retro recognition makes sense in some ways...not others. In the end it really doesn't matter...a chance to argue, which college football provides more than any sport. I do think the attention it brought on some pre-50 teams was good.

 

[Christo]

Man these counted championships from 40-50 years ago when nobody played anybody and there was no real data are just so dumb. They should be an afterthought like pre-Super Bowl titles are.

I think the NCAA "recognizes" NCs starting in 1936.

Yea...since the AP began awarding i believe. The retro recognition makes sense in some ways...not others. In the end it really doesn't matter...a chance to argue, which college football provides more than any sport. I do think the attention it brought on some pre-50 teams was good.

The Sooners and the dust bowl were all a lot of people knew about Oklahoma for a long time.

 

[Christo]

And to say nobody played anybody is not accurate. During OU's 47 game winning streak in the mid-50s they played Texas (5), Nebraska (4), Oklahoma State (4), Maryland (2), California, TCU, North Carolina (2) & Pittsburgh (2).And Notre Dame was the team that broke the streak.

OU also had a 31 game winning streak starting in '48 where they played Texas A&M (3), Texas (3), TCU, Nebraska (3), Oklahoma State (3), North Carolina, Boston College (2) & LSU.

 

[gump]

And to say nobody played anybody is not accurate. During OU's 47 game winning streak in the mid-50s they played Texas (5), Nebraska (4), Oklahoma State (4), Maryland (2), California, TCU, North Carolina (2) & Pittsburgh (2).And Notre Dame was the team that broke the streak.

OU also had a 31 game winning streak starting in '48 where they played Texas A&M (3), Texas (3), TCU, Nebraska (3), Oklahoma State (3), North Carolina, Boston College (2) & LSU.

Interesting to look at OOC schedules....looks like Alabama started playing 1 big OOC opponent yearly around the mid-30s....before that it was just a 7 or 8 game conference schedule + patsie + occasional big bowl opponent.For some reason, around '65 to '87 the SEC only played a 6 game conference schedule. In '78, Alabama opened the season vs #10 Nebraska, #11 Mizzou, and #7 USC.

 

[gump]

This pre game line is one of the best ever:

 

[Jayded]

For the record, ND fans as a whole are pretty pissed at Brian Kelly. Some would say he almost has to go to some pro team at this point.I don't think it's that extreme. It is weird he did the interview and then bolted. I think what chaps most people isn't that he interviewed, but the silence that has followed. Assistants and recruits are flailing in the wind waiting for the guy to tell them what's going on. On Saturday he called ND a destination job and then three days later he interviews and leaves the result hanging in the air.If I had to guess, he wants the Eagles job and is waiting on them to make their call. That said, he's generated a lot of ill will in his own backyard so if he doesn't get it, he's got a lot of repair work to do.

 

[Christo]

For the record, ND fans as a whole are pretty pissed at Brian Kelly. Some would say he almost has to go to some pro team at this point.I don't think it's that extreme. It is weird he did the interview and then bolted. I think what chaps most people isn't that he interviewed, but the silence that has followed. Assistants and recruits are flailing in the wind waiting for the guy to tell them what's going on. On Saturday he called ND a destination job and then three days later he interviews and leaves the result hanging in the air.If I had to guess, he wants the Eagles job and is waiting on them to make their call. That said, he's generated a lot of ill will in his own backyard so if he doesn't get it, he's got a lot of repair work to do.

Why would they expect any different from him? Ever since he became a known commodity he's never stayed anywhere too long. GVS to C. Mich (3) to Cincy (4) to ND (3).

 

[gump]

Report that The U will receive their NOA in 72 hrs....then have 3 months to respond before the NCAA hands down their punishment.Perfect timing for that news 3 weeks til NSD.

 

[Raider Nation]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Notre Dame's @NDHeisler announced Brian Kelly is staying at Notre Dame.

STUNNING!

 

[Premier]

@IAm_Wilder32: I had to tel the recruits get a pack of condoms for 3.49 or be ready to buy buy diapers for 21.99!!!!!! #realtalk #lookinoutformyfuturebrosRecruiting weekend.

 

[Jayded]

For the record, ND fans as a whole are pretty pissed at Brian Kelly. Some would say he almost has to go to some pro team at this point.I don't think it's that extreme. It is weird he did the interview and then bolted. I think what chaps most people isn't that he interviewed, but the silence that has followed. Assistants and recruits are flailing in the wind waiting for the guy to tell them what's going on. On Saturday he called ND a destination job and then three days later he interviews and leaves the result hanging in the air.If I had to guess, he wants the Eagles job and is waiting on them to make their call. That said, he's generated a lot of ill will in his own backyard so if he doesn't get it, he's got a lot of repair work to do.

Why would they expect any different from him? Ever since he became a known commodity he's never stayed anywhere too long. GVS to C. Mich (3) to Cincy (4) to ND (3).

I never did. It's more of his handling of the situation. As I pointed out to other fans, that we have people who want our coach now it means we're doing something right. I will gladly take these conversations in an offseason over debate on when to fire the guy and who could replace him.One thing that irks me about ND's AD (Swarbrick) is he noted when he fired Charlie Weis that he wouldn't search for another coach until Weis had been fired. He didn't find it moral. In this situation, we'd have to assume he made no calls and was waiting for Kelly to make the call. That puts the program in jeopardy, especially this late in the game. I would have told Kelly if he's looking, we are too, if nothing else than to cover our own asses. Regardless, Swarbrick should always have a Plan B list to contact should something like this occur.

 

[Abraham]

Just once id like to see a program NOT give an extension to a coach with a wandering eye. Tell les miles, "you know les....we won't match Arkansas. Go ahead." Or tell Kelly "nah....you have a contract."

 

[Christo]

Just once id like to see a program NOT give an extension to a coach with a wandering eye. Tell les miles, "you know les....we won't match Arkansas. Go ahead." Or tell Kelly "nah....you have a contract."

It's a scary proposition even for a "destination" program. OU lost a decade trying to replace Switzer. How long was it between Holtz and Kelly?LSU got lucky with the Saban to Miles transition.

 

[The Commish]

Good Ole Kiffy

 

[gump]

http://www.profootba...s-police-selvesInteresting note about Coaching between college and the pros...didn't realize some don't get pensions....

• "A lot of good coaches have dropped down to college and are not coming back. I don't think Nick Saban will ever return (to the NFL). It's not just the big names. There are a lot of good, veteran assistants too. The resources are better. They're building their own networks. The players are more open to coaching. When a lot of teams took away (the coaches') NFL pensions, college became a lot more attractive. I hear it all the time. There's a reason the quality of play has fallen in the NFL. I'm watching some of the coaching going on, and I'm just amazed how bad it is. This dive-option crap should not be working the way it is. It's easy to stop. This league is all cyclical. (A Hall of Fame coach) once told me — remember what you are seeing now, because it will all come back. This stuff was around 20 years ago, and it got shut down. It's only a matter of time before it happens again. … The NFL is and always will be a pocket-passing league. If you want to win, you better have a quarterback who can do it."

 

[gump]

http://www.thevictor...-am-to-grow-up/

Athletic Director for A&M, Eric Hyman, had a sitdown with Manzeil's parents to discuss the star's recent behavior and what is expected of him, now that he is in the limelight.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

http://www.thevictor...-am-to-grow-up/

Athletic Director for A&M, Eric Hyman, had a sitdown with Manzeil's parents to discuss the star's recent behavior and what is expected of him, now that he is in the limelight.

If it wasn't the SEC there is no way Manziell would stay eligible for another 11 months.

 

[The Commish]

GB Vincent Smith

This poor kid is 5 foot nothing and sees what's going to happen and can't do anything about it. He's pound-for-pound one of the toughest little guys I've seen in the B1G in a long time.

 

[Premier]

I read somewhere today that the Chick Fil A bowl is separating from the Peach. The Peach is going to be one of the access bowls and I guess CFA will be on its own. Mandel's article briefly mentioned it. Viva la Peach Bowl. One of the best bowl names.

 

[Christo]

I read somewhere today that the Chick Fil A bowl is separating from the Peach. The Peach is going to be one of the access bowls and I guess CFA will be on its own. Mandel's article briefly mentioned it. Viva la Peach Bowl. One of the best bowl names.

I miss the Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl.

 

[gump]

GB Vincent Smith This poor kid is 5 foot nothing and sees what's going to happen and can't do anything about it. He's pound-for-pound one of the toughest little guys I've seen in the B1G in a long time.

It's like hitting a baseball or golfball so pure that you barely feel it.

 

[Premier]

@DanWetzel: RT @mortreport Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources.-fe

 

[gump]

@DanWetzel: RT @mortreport Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources.-fe

Wow

 

[BigJohn]

@DanWetzel: RT @mortreport Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources.-fe

Wow

Jay Glaser also reporting.

 

[The Commish]

@DanWetzel: RT @mortreport Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources.-fe

Who the hell wants someone so indecisive?? Can't say I'm surprised though.

 

[Premier]

Pretty excited about Dr. D's trolling of -fe in here now.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

DD...karma, eh.

Mutual interest with Philly and B. Kelly.

 

[gump]

So did Chip call the NCAA to get an update on their investigation earlier this week?

 

[The Commish]

So did Chip call the NCAA to get an update on their investigation earlier this week?

There's no doubt in my mind the potential problems coming are part of it. I also think he believes NE's success is because of him.

 

[The Commish]

Pretty excited about Dr. D's trolling of -fe in here now.

 

[ThaPenguin]

Pac 12 = Conference of Coaches

 

[fasteddie_21]

Kelly no longer in the running for Cleveland job...two down, hopefully only 1 more to go (Philly :X ). I assume he's gone, but hard not to get my hopes up that he isn't leaving....

Bummer. At least there is continuity with the staff with Helf taking over.

 

[GroveDiesel]

So did Chip call the NCAA to get an update on their investigation earlier this week?

There's no doubt in my mind the potential problems coming are part of it. I also think he believes NE's success is because of him.

So if Oregon gets smashed by the NCAA, does Goodell follow his precedent with Jim Tressel and suspend Chip Kelly in the NFL?

 

[wadegarrett]

I can't figure out how Chip Kelly is a better NFL coach than Andy Reid.

 

[GDogg]

So did Chip call the NCAA to get an update on their investigation earlier this week?

There's no doubt in my mind the potential problems coming are part of it. I also think he believes NE's success is because of him.

So if Oregon gets smashed by the NCAA, does Goodell follow his precedent with Jim Tressel and suspend Chip Kelly in the NFL?

He didn't with Pete Carroll.