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[Raider Nation]

10/5/13 Recaps

(#17) Baylor 73, West Virginia 42:
Baylor’s offensive production has been eye-popping through the season’s first few weeks, but the team played a very manageable nonconference slate. Entering Saturday, there were questions surrounding how the Bears’ attack would fare against a league foe, not an overmatched opponent like Wofford, Buffalo or Louisiana-Monroe.

By all accounts, Baylor passed that test with flying colors.

The Bears rang up a school-record 864 yards of total offense, including another school-record 617 yards of offense in the first half, to thoroughly dominate West Virginia just one week after the Mountaineers upset Oklahoma State. The win moved Baylor to 4-0 on the year and solidified the program’s status as one of the country’s bona fide offensive juggernauts.

The stat sheet offered plenty of numbers to drool over. Baylor passed for 396 yards and rushed for 476 yards. It managed 38 first downs and converted 11-of-15 third downs. Quarterback Bryce Petty completed 17-of-25 passes for 347 yards, two touchdowns and one pick, and Baylor featured two 100-yard rushers (Shock Linwood and Lache Seastrunk) and one 100-yard receiver (Antwan Goodley) all in the same night. Even the Bears themselves were somewhat shocked by their own output.

West Virginia might not present the same defensive test that Oklahoma would, but the Bears steamrolled a solid conference opponent nonetheless. There will be many more challenges ahead for coach Art Briles’ offense, but through four games, there don’t appear to be many defenses that can shut this group down.

Notre Dame 37, (#22) Arizona State 34:
Quarterback Tommy Rees completed just 17-of-38 attempts, but he still tallied 279 passing yards and three touchdowns as Notre Dame downed the Sun Devils in Arlington, Texas. The Irish looked to be in control as they held an 11-point lead heading into the fourth quarter, but Arizona State surged back to tie the game 27-27 midway through the final period. It took a Kyle Brindza field goal — one of his three second-half kicks — to put Notre Dame ahead for good.

(#2) Oregon 57, Colorado 16:
Oregon’s Marcus Mariota was was magnificent on Saturday. The Ducks quarterback tallied seven total touchdowns — five through the air, two on the ground — to go with 398 yards of total offense. Colorado held a 10-8 first-quarter lead before Oregon opened things up with three straight touchdowns and never looked back. In all, the Ducks managed 756 total yards.

(#11) Oklahoma 20, TCU 17:
This one seemed headed for a blowout when Oklahoma went into the half leading 13-0. But the Horned Frogs powered back with a 10-point third quarter, capped by a two-yard Trevone Boykin touchdown run. Sooners tailback Brennan Clay scampered for 111 rushing yards, but the unsung hero of this matchup was the Oklahoma defense. It held TCU to a paltry 210 total yards and allowed it to convert just 3-of-14 third downs.

(#10) LSU 59, Mississippi State 26:
There would be no letdown for LSU after its close loss to Georgia last week. The Tigers scored 28 points in the fourth quarter to thwart an upset bid by the Bulldogs. LSU scored the game’s final 31 points, and quarterback Zach Mettenberger passed for 340 yards and two touchdowns. Under Les Miles, the Tigers are now 21-1 in games following a loss.

(#18) Florida 30, Arkansas 10:
Florida’s Solomon Patton made the most of his catches against Arkansas. The Gators wideout hauled in a career-high 124 yards on just six receptions to help Florida dump Arkansas in Gainesville. The SEC’s top defense also lived up to its billing. Florida held the Hogs to 111 rushing yards and 275 total yards.

Auburn 30, (#24) Ole Miss 22:
A season full of promise has suddenly fallen back to earth for Ole Miss. The Rebels have dropped two straight games after starting the season 3-0, and they simply had no answer for Auburn quarterback Nick Marshall on Saturday. Marshall threw for 98 yards, rushed for 140 yards and scored two touchdowns. Ole Miss’ offense couldn’t get going against the Tigers, netting only three field goals before quarterback Bo Wallace found receiver Donte Moncrief for two straight touchdown passes in the second half. But a comeback from Hugh Freeze’s crew was too little too late.

(#23) Fresno State 61, Idaho 14:
It took just two quarters of football for Fresno State quarterback Derek Carr to fill up the stat sheet. Carr threw for 390 yards and five touchdowns by halftime against Idaho. Carr is a big reason why the unbeaten Bulldogs have scored at least 40 points in every game this season.

Missouri 51, Vanderbilt 28:
If Missouri is the real deal, quarterback James Franklin might be the primary reason. The Tigers passer threw for 278 yards and four touchdowns as unbeaten Missouri (5-0) trampled Vanderbilt at home. Commodores receiver Jordan Matthews continued his stellar season in defeat, registering his fifth 100-yard receiving outing in six games.

USF 26, Cincinnati 20:
Willie Taggart claimed his first win as the coach at South Florida, thanks largely to a couple of broken plays. Defensive back Nate Godwin scored on a long blocked field goal return to open the game’s scoring, and linebacker DeDe Lattimore returned a fumble 10 yards for a touchdown in the third quarter. Tommy Tuberville’s team turned the ball over four times in the loss.

(#5) Stanford 31, (#15) Washington 28:
The fifth-ranked Cardinal went down to the wire and held off Josh Freeman-clone Keith Price (351 pass yards) and the Huskies at Stanford Stadium. SI.com’s Andy Staples was in Palo Alto for the Pac-12 action.

 

[drummer]

Price going into next years draft? If so, is he a 1st rounder?

I dunno. He gets talked up a lot, but he doesn't strike me as a guy with the same amount of talent as Bridgewater, Mariota, Hundley, or even Manziel. There's only so many guys that are going to go in the 1st round.

Then again, on Thursday night I saw Jeff Tuel taking snaps for an NFL team. Jeff ####### Tuel. So what the hell do I know?

I was assuming drummer was fishing here. I love KP but no way is he a first round draft pick. He may get drafted but I doubt he's a starting NFL QB.

Wasn't fishing. Just worded my post stupid. I should had posted a "which round would he" instead of 1st.

I never read Price's name in any draft talk, but his mobility and ability to throw on the run just made me wonder if he's a viable draft prospect.

 

[The Commish]

Stoops

While I agree, this year "SEC defense" label appears to mean very little with all the young defenses (especially compared to the recent past), that doesn't negate the defenses of the past. It's not hard to understand that an improvement in QB play coupled with a pretty good drop off on defense can lead to the results we've seen. This dude's pretty obsessed with the SEC for whatever reason. Was he shunned from a job or something?

Stoops actually turned down UF twice I believe. That's not why he's bitter. He's bitter because his league is getting zero exposure or respect. I think he went off this week bc they beat Notre Dame and no one cared (or watched). They are undefeated with a win at ND and something like 3 teams with a loss are still ranked higher than them.

The Big 12 is just struggling to get anyone to care about their league and it's a little puzzling imo how quickly it happened (and why). It's got to be frustrating to him personally because in past years, a 4-0 OU would be all over ESPN. OU was always a program that if you win, exposure would come. But now here they are winning and you can hear a pin drop.

It's not puzzling at all. The league sucks. Just like the B1G does. No one cares about either league. The only way to change that is to win and win while playing good OOC competition. Those beginning of season games do a lot from an "attention" perspective when it comes to the media. Only ones that don't have to worry about media coverage is the SEC. I counted 30+ times on last Gameday how many times they used "SEC defense" despite those defenses being in the pooper this year. From their POV, it's the SEC and then everyone else and everyone else has to fight year in and out to get that recognition.

I don't understand your point. OU has played Notre Dame the past two years, Florida State the two years before that, Miami, BYU, several bowl teams in Cincinnati, Air Force, ULM, Washington and TCU since 2008. They have Tennessee, LSU and Ohio State in future years.

As far as the conference they do what other conferences (including SEC) does, fill the schedule. Right now the Big 12 is 5th in Sagarin behind the two Pac-12 and the two SEC division (fractions behind SEC East and P12 S), and everyone knew this was going to be a down year. OU and Baylor are both currently top 5 Sagarin, they have five teams in the top 30. That is fine, it is going to be a knock'em out, drag'em out year and most of the top teams will likely lose two games. So what? The Big 12 has been the #2 conference for a a good number of years, down years happen.

Obviously losing quality programs like Nebraska and TAMU hurt the overall strength of the conference, but it is still in fine shape if Texas can ever recover. Okie Stateand Baylor are ascending programs with new football facilities, TCU is a great program, Texas Tech and West Virginia are solid contributors and K-State has done some fine work. Conference is fine, Stoops is a veteran coach who can say whatever he wants and he's got some fair points. I personally think he should just prove it on the field, but he's among the most respected coaches in CFB so I guess he feels a need to articulate some things in this time of transition.

You know as well as I do it's all about perception. How frequently do we debate the quality of X conference on stats just to find out, none of it matters. People are going to perceive things the way they perceive them and there's nothing you or I are going to do about it. Right now the perception is that ND is back to being a joke and the "top dog" of the conference (Texas) is struggling. Those things alone will lead most to believe that the B12 is "down". I really only had two points:

1. Perception is everything.

2. Stoops shouldn't be worried about other conferences.

We can get into all the teams that OU has played or is going to play, but my comments were around the conference. Not a specific team. I think OU's a pretty good football team. They keep winning, the "press" will eventually take notice. That Stoops is out there feeling like he has to attack other conferences to get his team some attention is sad...especially just going into week 5 of the year. That's all....dude just needs to chill and win. The rest will come.

He's 153-37 with 1 NC and 7 B12. Dude doesn't need to do anything.

He's right, and I think you are way off base about his comments. He isn't worried at all about the SEC, he's promoting the Big 12. That's his job after all.

Another quality win tonigth vs a top 30 opponent, they are coming along in a rebuilding year. Baylor is silly good on offense though, I don't think they'll beat them.

Love these Northwestern helmets with the wildcat on there, will look even nicer raised in the air after a victory over Ohio.

Guess I'm just not a big fan of promoting by bringing others down. Be confident in yourself...don't worry about others. No real need to single the SEC out or even mention them if your goal is to pimp yourself.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Latest Shaggybevo Headline:

"If you don't want Art Briles as our coach you are a ####### #######"

I, luckily, am not a ####### #######.

And, to TF's last point, A&M at it's best can split the state. UT is always going to be the favorite long term. Realistically it doesn't matter with A&M in the SEC because there's enough talent to go around that they can both be top ten programs even with OU picking off talent from DFW.

"Splitting the state" is competing, no? DD said A&M can't compete in teh long term.

I'll default to you b/c I know you know the Tejas landscape better than I do, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to compete long term.

I don't disagree at all on your point about "enough talent to go around.."

Based on what? TAMU is #3 in the state right now, and once Manziel is gone to the NFL and Sumlin leaves for USC, they'll slip back to 7-5 every year. Is it because they are in the SEC now? loloolololololololol, please tell me you don't really believe that. Do you?

7-5 every year....really

Yeah, really. 1 conf championship, four top 20 poll finishes and one ten-win+ seasons in 16 years in Big 12.

Here are their last ten seasons in Big 12:

7-6

9-4

6-7

4-8

7-6

9-4

5-6

7-5

4-8

5-6

So they are a powerhouse that can compete with Texas now? Based on 1.5 seasons of success? Goes against your #3 criteria no?

Do you think Mizzou is gonna be a powerhouse too since they came over to the SEC? Arkansas? Vandy? Those last two just came over recently right?

Short answer, yes they can compete with Texas now.

A&M and UT used to be in the same conference....so UT had a huge advantage there.

Now, A&M has the leverage of being in the best conference (and much better than Big 12 in recent years) to sell to top tier recruits who want to stay in state.

A&M entering the SEC is vastly different than ARK, Vandy and Mizzou b/c of their location.

 

[Christo]

At the rate we're going the season is going to end with 5 undefeated teams.

Happens every year around this time. A handful of good teams look unbeatable. But something always happens. OkSU goes to ISU and loses. Wisconsin beats the UM/OSU winner. SEC knocks each other off. And were left with one undefeated and two one-loss.

 

[Christo]

Latest Shaggybevo Headline:

"If you don't want Art Briles as our coach you are a ####### #######"

I, luckily, am not a ####### #######.

And, to TF's last point, A&M at it's best can split the state. UT is always going to be the favorite long term. Realistically it doesn't matter with A&M in the SEC because there's enough talent to go around that they can both be top ten programs even with OU picking off talent from DFW.

"Splitting the state" is competing, no? DD said A&M can't compete in teh long term.

I'll default to you b/c I know you know the Tejas landscape better than I do, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to compete long term.

I don't disagree at all on your point about "enough talent to go around.."

Based on what? TAMU is #3 in the state right now, and once Manziel is gone to the NFL and Sumlin leaves for USC, they'll slip back to 7-5 every year. Is it because they are in the SEC now? loloolololololololol, please tell me you don't really believe that. Do you?

7-5 every year....really

Yeah, really. 1 conf championship, four top 20 poll finishes and one ten-win+ seasons in 16 years in Big 12.

Here are their last ten seasons in Big 12:

7-6

9-4

6-7

4-8

7-6

9-4

5-6

7-5

4-8

5-6

So they are a powerhouse that can compete with Texas now? Based on 1.5 seasons of success? Goes against your #3 criteria no?

Do you think Mizzou is gonna be a powerhouse too since they came over to the SEC? Arkansas? Vandy? Those last two just came over recently right?

Short answer, yes they can compete with Texas now.

A&M and UT used to be in the same conference....so UT had a huge advantage there.

Now, A&M has the leverage of being in the best conference (and much better than Big 12 in recent years) to sell to top tier recruits who want to stay in state.

A&M entering the SEC is vastly different than ARK, Vandy and Mizzou b/c of their location.

A&M does get a boost moving to the SEC. But it's not as big as you think. They don't just have to compete wit UT. They have to compete with OU. And OU offers recruits something better than A&M--the chance to beat UT every year.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Latest Shaggybevo Headline:

"If you don't want Art Briles as our coach you are a ####### #######"

I, luckily, am not a ####### #######.

And, to TF's last point, A&M at it's best can split the state. UT is always going to be the favorite long term. Realistically it doesn't matter with A&M in the SEC because there's enough talent to go around that they can both be top ten programs even with OU picking off talent from DFW.

"Splitting the state" is competing, no? DD said A&M can't compete in teh long term.

I'll default to you b/c I know you know the Tejas landscape better than I do, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to compete long term.

I don't disagree at all on your point about "enough talent to go around.."

Based on what? TAMU is #3 in the state right now, and once Manziel is gone to the NFL and Sumlin leaves for USC, they'll slip back to 7-5 every year. Is it because they are in the SEC now? loloolololololololol, please tell me you don't really believe that. Do you?

7-5 every year....really

Yeah, really. 1 conf championship, four top 20 poll finishes and one ten-win+ seasons in 16 years in Big 12.

Here are their last ten seasons in Big 12:

7-6

9-4

6-7

4-8

7-6

9-4

5-6

7-5

4-8

5-6

So they are a powerhouse that can compete with Texas now? Based on 1.5 seasons of success? Goes against your #3 criteria no?

Do you think Mizzou is gonna be a powerhouse too since they came over to the SEC? Arkansas? Vandy? Those last two just came over recently right?

Short answer, yes they can compete with Texas now.

A&M and UT used to be in the same conference....so UT had a huge advantage there.

Now, A&M has the leverage of being in the best conference (and much better than Big 12 in recent years) to sell to top tier recruits who want to stay in state.

A&M entering the SEC is vastly different than ARK, Vandy and Mizzou b/c of their location.

You aren't right about this, but this won't work itself out for about 5 or 6 years. But about then you'll look at TAMU after another Saturday let down, nod and say, yeah Dr D was right. Just that acknowledgment will be enough, you won't even have to send me a FTD gift bouquet.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Latest Shaggybevo Headline:

"If you don't want Art Briles as our coach you are a ####### #######"

I, luckily, am not a ####### #######.

And, to TF's last point, A&M at it's best can split the state. UT is always going to be the favorite long term. Realistically it doesn't matter with A&M in the SEC because there's enough talent to go around that they can both be top ten programs even with OU picking off talent from DFW.

"Splitting the state" is competing, no? DD said A&M can't compete in teh long term.

I'll default to you b/c I know you know the Tejas landscape better than I do, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to compete long term.

I don't disagree at all on your point about "enough talent to go around.."

Based on what? TAMU is #3 in the state right now, and once Manziel is gone to the NFL and Sumlin leaves for USC, they'll slip back to 7-5 every year. Is it because they are in the SEC now? loloolololololololol, please tell me you don't really believe that. Do you?

7-5 every year....really

Yeah, really. 1 conf championship, four top 20 poll finishes and one ten-win+ seasons in 16 years in Big 12.

Here are their last ten seasons in Big 12:

7-6

9-4

6-7

4-8

7-6

9-4

5-6

7-5

4-8

5-6

So they are a powerhouse that can compete with Texas now? Based on 1.5 seasons of success? Goes against your #3 criteria no?

Do you think Mizzou is gonna be a powerhouse too since they came over to the SEC? Arkansas? Vandy? Those last two just came over recently right?

Short answer, yes they can compete with Texas now.

A&M and UT used to be in the same conference....so UT had a huge advantage there.

Now, A&M has the leverage of being in the best conference (and much better than Big 12 in recent years) to sell to top tier recruits who want to stay in state.

A&M entering the SEC is vastly different than ARK, Vandy and Mizzou b/c of their location.

You aren't right about this, but this won't work itself out for about 5 or 6 years. But about then you'll look at TAMU after another Saturday let down, nod and say, yeah Dr D was right. Just that acknowledgment will be enough, you won't even have to send me a FTD gift bouquet.

As an LSU fan, I hope you're right

 

[Hooper31]

I never read Price's name in any draft talk, but his mobility and ability to throw on the run just made me wonder if he's a viable draft prospect.

I doubt it. I think we're seeing the result of the team getting much better around him this year, especially the offensive line.

 

[culdeus]

People dismissing Tamu are doing so at an odd time. A half billion dollar stadium is underway and all the momentum is with them. Every program has downswings. All it takes is one bad coaching move and a couple of bad recruiting classes. Texas easily could pull a USC on this round.

Will they win national titles? Probably not. But with the playoff system coming I can see how being in the sec could make the odds better.

 

[Christo]

People dismissing Tamu are doing so at an odd time. A half billion dollar stadium is underway and all the momentum is with them. Every program has downswings. All it takes is one bad coaching move and a couple of bad recruiting classes. Texas easily could pull a USC on this round.

Will they win national titles? Probably not. But with the playoff system coming I can see how being in the sec could make the odds better.

How could A&M having to deal with multiple teams every year (LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, USC) be better than UT only really having to deal with OU and an upstart on a consistent basis?

 

[fasteddie_21]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama

- Uncle Phil's checkbook.

But they can't hold a candle to Cali/Texas/Florida schools as far as recruiting grounds...but they do a magnificent job of reaching every corner of the country in recruiting.

 

[jurb26]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama

- Uncle Phil's checkbook.

But they can't hold a candle to Cali/Texas/Florida schools as far as recruiting grounds...but they do a magnificent job of reaching every corner of the country in recruiting.

I'd say a few other schools have stronger arguments for success the past decade. Namely, LSU and Florida. You could argue Ohio St in thre as well.

 

[jurb26]

Wash was impressive last night. Being on the east, I really didn't know much about them. I asked the question a while back to PAC homers if they were a legit threat to Stanford or Oregon. They response was no. I'd say the clearly are though. They nearly knocked off Stanford, in Stanford. Oregon needs to be on high alert.

 

[Premier]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.

Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

 

[gump]

I stand corrected. The Waco Zoo is very nice. It's worth actually going to Waco to see.

Consensus fan list seems to be Strong, Shaw, Patterson, Fedora, O'Brien outside of that. And Gruden. For some reason.

Jim Mora, Jr?

 

[gump]

Bo Wallace not quite backing up his bravado.

 

[BigJohn]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no. Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

You can't?

 

[Raider Nation]

Baylor just scored again.

 

[Christo]

It's six days 'till the next Red River Rivalry game and Texas still sucks!

 

[gump]

We say this every year, but it sure looks likely that we'll have multiple Undefeateds.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.

Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

 

[Jayded]

We say this every year, but it sure looks likely that we'll have multiple Undefeateds.

It would be rather ironic that this, being the final year of the BCS, is the year where we have 3 really strong teams with really good resumes to get into the title game and one gets left out the year before they would be in a playoff.

 

[Premier]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

Titles.

FSU has 15 straight years finishing in the top-5. And all I hear from Gator fans is they have one more national title.

Even though most Gator fans are hillbilly morons, I think I would go with the titles.

 

[Christo]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

Titles.

FSU has 15 straight years finishing in the top-5. And all I hear from Gator fans is they have one more national title.

Even though most Gator fans are hillbilly morons, I think I would go with the titles.

It can't just be titles either. Hello, Auburn.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.

Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

 

[Tiger Fan]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

Titles.

FSU has 15 straight years finishing in the top-5. And all I hear from Gator fans is they have one more national title.

Even though most Gator fans are hillbilly morons, I think I would go with the titles.

It can't just be titles either. Hello, Auburn.

It's a combo of both. IMO

 

[Tiger Fan]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.

Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

From the LSU media guide from the UGA game last week - http://www.lsusports.net/pdf9/2542690.pdf

"LSU is riding a streak of 69 consecutive appearances in the AP Top 25, which ranks as the nation’s second-longest streak behind Alabama."

 

[fasteddie_21]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

My bad LSU is 2nd.http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_streaks_weeks.cfm?streak=top25&rows=50&active=yes#.UlGwFDK9KSM

My argument still holds that they have to be considered one of the elite "destination jobs".

 

[Tiger Fan]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

My bad LSU is 2nd.http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_streaks_weeks.cfm?streak=top25&rows=50&active=yes#.UlGwFDK9KSM

My argument still holds that they have to be considered one of the elite "destination jobs".

i don't disagree

 

[scottybo]

I think we all knew it but UGA officially announced RB Keith Marshall and WR Justin Scott-Wesley are both out for the season with torn ACL's.

WR Michael Bennett will undergo arthroscopic knee surgery this week to determine the extent of his injury.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Miami (Ohio) coach Don Treadwell added to the carnage ... one week before the "Game of the Century" in Foxboro between 0-5 squads.

 

[MAC_32]

Uhh colt left Oregon?

Whoa.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Wow, impressed w/ Washington and Stanford's defense scares me.

And I think you have to put Oregon in the discussion for "destination jobs" simply for two reasons:

- Success over the last decade which is only bettered by Alabama.

No national titles so..........no.Can't believe you would even attempt that when LSU and Florida have won multiple titles in that timeframe.

Well, if you go by that, ok, I can see that. But if you look at consistency, no team has been in the Top 25 more than Oregon, save for Alabama. So which matters more, peak vs consistency? I think viable arguments can go either way, no?

My bad LSU is 2nd.http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_streaks_weeks.cfm?streak=top25&rows=50&active=yes#.UlGwFDK9KSM

My argument still holds that they have to be considered one of the elite "destination jobs".

Huh? How is current active streak, which only goes back 5 years even for the #1 team on the list, a measure of how often they've been ranked over the last decade?

Oregon is actually 9th in poll appearances in the last decade behind LSU, Oklahoma, OSU, USC, Florida, Texas, Georgia, and Va Tech. They have been in the poll 71% of the time in that span. LSU has been in the poll 98% of the time.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/app_total.cfm?sort=totapp&from=2003&to=2013#.UlIa0WRgb9s

 

[fasteddie_21]

Uhh colt left Oregon?

Whoa.

Not really terribly surprising. He had missed a game and was not on the traveling team yesterday. And when he did play, didn't catch a ball. Huge fall from last year, but Oregon doing fine without him.

 

[MAC_32]

Uhh colt left Oregon?

Whoa.

Not really terribly surprising. He had missed a game and was not on the traveling team yesterday. And when he did play, didn't catch a ball. Huge fall from last year, but Oregon doing fine without him.

huh, didn't realize he stayed home yesterday.Seem to be dismissing it though, aren't you a ducks fan? No matter if he has played or not it's a big deal. This team is better with him in the field.

I guess we wait and see what sort of baggage he really cones with.

 

[fasteddie_21]

Uhh colt left Oregon?

Whoa.

Not really terribly surprising. He had missed a game and was not on the traveling team yesterday. And when he did play, didn't catch a ball. Huge fall from last year, but Oregon doing fine without him.

huh, didn't realize he stayed home yesterday.Seem to be dismissing it though, aren't you a ducks fan? No matter if he has played or not it's a big deal. This team is better with him in the field.

I guess we wait and see what sort of baggage he really cones with.

Oh no doubt there is a lot more to this than we know. I'm just saying the team has done alright without him this year. Have to move on.

 

[General Malaise]

Leyerla's an idiot. Good riddance.

 

[Xue]

Leonard Fournette is on ESPN2, and he looks ridiculous.

262 and the game-winning 2 pt conversion vs the defending 'national champion'. He is huge, with elite speed. He's going to terrorize the SEC...for someone ( not giving up yet).

Fournette only runs a 10.68 100M. A 10.68 is not elite speed. It's good, but not close to "elite".

 

[SacramentoBob]

Leonard Fournette is on ESPN2, and he looks ridiculous.

262 and the game-winning 2 pt conversion vs the defending 'national champion'. He is huge, with elite speed. He's going to terrorize the SEC...for someone ( not giving up yet).

Fournette only runs a 10.68 100M. A 10.68 is not elite speed. It's good, but not close to "elite".

10.68 isn't elite Track and Field speed (well I'd argue it is from a high schooler), but it's elite NFL speed. Every now and again you have a world class 100M sprinter like Michael Bennett or Trindon Holiday, but that's rare. He wouldn't be the fastest guy in the NFL if he walked onto a team right now, but he'd most likely be in the top 10-15% of all players in a "speed" position using whatever their personal best in college/HS was.

 

[culdeus]

People dismissing Tamu are doing so at an odd time. A half billion dollar stadium is underway and all the momentum is with them. Every program has downswings. All it takes is one bad coaching move and a couple of bad recruiting classes. Texas easily could pull a USC on this round.

Will they win national titles? Probably not. But with the playoff system coming I can see how being in the sec could make the odds better.

How could A&M having to deal with multiple teams every year (LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, USC) be better than UT only really having to deal with OU and an upstart on a consistent basis?

Getting in with 1 loss in the SEC has actually happened. I never checked the qualifications for the playoff system, but I assume this is more likely in the new setup. A 1 loss XII team sure as hell isn't making it anywhere but Cotton.

 

[Tiger Fan]

People dismissing Tamu are doing so at an odd time. A half billion dollar stadium is underway and all the momentum is with them. Every program has downswings. All it takes is one bad coaching move and a couple of bad recruiting classes. Texas easily could pull a USC on this round.

Will they win national titles? Probably not. But with the playoff system coming I can see how being in the sec could make the odds better.

How could A&M having to deal with multiple teams every year (LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, USC) be better than UT only really having to deal with OU and an upstart on a consistent basis?

Getting in with 1 loss in the SEC has actually happened. I never checked the qualifications for the playoff system, but I assume this is more likely in the new setup. A 1 loss XII team sure as hell isn't making it anywhere but Cotton.

SEC is so dominant they've gotten in with 2 losses

 

[Christo]

People dismissing Tamu are doing so at an odd time. A half billion dollar stadium is underway and all the momentum is with them. Every program has downswings. All it takes is one bad coaching move and a couple of bad recruiting classes. Texas easily could pull a USC on this round.

Will they win national titles? Probably not. But with the playoff system coming I can see how being in the sec could make the odds better.

How could A&M having to deal with multiple teams every year (LSU, Bama, UGA, UF, USC) be better than UT only really having to deal with OU and an upstart on a consistent basis?

Getting in with 1 loss in the SEC has actually happened. I never checked the qualifications for the playoff system, but I assume this is more likely in the new setup. A 1 loss XII team sure as hell isn't making it anywhere but Cotton.

I don't understand your point. Getting in with one loss in the B12 has actually happened too--three times.

 

[Christo]

It's five days to OU/UT and UT still sucks!

 

[gump]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/9788839/usc-trojans-say-impersonators-making-calls-coaching-job

LOS ANGELES -- Apparently even people who don't work for USC are trying to hire the Trojans' next football coach.

USC athletic director Pat Haden said Monday that two people pretending to be representatives of his school have contacted two coaches and attempted to discuss the Trojans' coaching vacancy with them.

USC has identified the imposters and is taking "appropriate action," the school said in a blog post on its website.

 

[SacramentoBob]

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/9788839/usc-trojans-say-impersonators-making-calls-coaching-job

LOS ANGELES -- Apparently even people who don't work for USC are trying to hire the Trojans' next football coach.

USC athletic director Pat Haden said Monday that two people pretending to be representatives of his school have contacted two coaches and attempted to discuss the Trojans' coaching vacancy with them.

USC has identified the imposters and is taking "appropriate action," the school said in a blog post on its website.

Interesting that USC was able to identify them so quickly. Doesn't strike me as some kind of prank or pretending.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

This week's KRACH ratings. Starting to see the effects of facing league opponents:

POS.	TEAM		W	L	KRACH		LAST1	Alabama		5	0	6080.02		12	Florida St	5	0	5397.96		43	Clemson		5	0	5147.97		24	Stanford	5	0	4301.28		65	Ohio State	6	0	3329.26		176	Oklahoma	5	0	2910.84		97	Miami FL	5	0	2697.58		208	Georgia		4	1	2442.71		89	Missouri	5	0	2425.27		1310	Michigan	5	0	2233.56		2311	No. Illinois	5	0	2143.30		512	UCLA		4	0	1973.66		1813	Fresno St	5	0	1961.37		714	Baylor		4	0	1863.73		2115	Virginia Tech	5	1	1744.24		1416	Oregon		5	0	1723.66		1217	Louisville	5	0	1587.39		1518	Texas Tech	5	0	1582.77		1119	Texas A&M	4	1	1463.10		1620	LSU		5	1	1333.00		2221	Washington	4	1	1274.17		322	Northwestern	4	1	1034.24		1023	Auburn		4	1	967.92		3124	Maryland	4	1	950.18		1925	Florida		4	1	948.62		3226	Houston		4	0	921.82		2427	Notre Dame	4	2	838.16		5428	South Carolina	4	1	837.83		2829	Pittsburgh	3	1	728.71		2930	Nebraska	4	1	716.61		3531	Michigan St	4	1	682.57		6532	Rutgers		4	1	656.82		3633	East Carolina	4	1	636.61		4334	Ohio U.		4	1	624.66		3035	Washington St	4	2	530.73		3836	Arizona		3	1	520.91		2537	Bowling Green	5	1	503.76		4638	Arizona St	3	2	495.50		2739	Central Florida	4	1	481.47		4040	Georgia Tech	3	2	441.56		3741	Oregon St	4	1	428.46		4142	Ball St		5	1	427.21		5143	Indiana		3	2	417.55		6444	Oklahoma St	4	1	394.64		5045	Navy		3	1	394.27		5346	Boston College	3	2	364.97		6947	West Virginia	3	3	358.38		4448	Buffalo		3	2	349.12		7349	Mississippi	3	2	340.60		3450	Iowa		4	2	334.11		2651	Rice		3	2	309.79		6652	Tennessee	3	3	291.72		5253	Utah		3	2	289.51		4954	Minnesota	4	2	278.84		3955	TCU		2	3	271.98		5756	Marshall	3	2	267.61		5857	Southern Cal	3	2	266.34		5658	Duke		3	2	265.26		5959	Illinois	3	2	258.19		3360	Boise St	3	2	254.75		4761	Arkansas	3	3	237.91		6162	Penn State	3	2	236.79		4863	Wisconsin	3	2	223.41		6264	Toledo		3	3	209.62		7565	Tulane		4	2	207.86		7666	West. Kentucky	4	2	204.58		7467	Brigham Young	3	2	194.98		7868	Colorado	2	2	187.60		6069	Syracuse	2	3	184.60		7270	NC State	3	2	180.93		4571	Texas St.	3	2	180.16		4272	North Texas	2	3	176.41		5573	La.-Lafayette	3	2	174.51		8774	Virginia	2	3	164.51		6775	UNLV		3	2	160.71		6876	Mississippi St	2	3	152.04		8477	Kansas		2	2	148.45		8378	Wake Forest	3	3	144.20		9779	Texas		3	2	140.02		8880	San Diego St	2	3	130.98		10481	Wyoming		3	2	116.15		7982	Nevada		3	3	115.69		7183	Vanderbilt	3	3	114.95		8084	SMU		1	4	114.37		8685	South Alabama	2	3	113.27		7086	Kansas St	2	3	111.81		8587	California	1	4	110.88		8288	Utah St		3	3	102.72		8189	North Carolina	1	4	102.53		9090	Middle Tenn. St	3	3	101.71		9291	Kent St		2	4	91.94		8992	Cincinnati	3	2	90.35		6393	La.-Monroe	2	4	89.67		9394	Troy		3	3	86.96		10295	San José St	2	3	84.02		9696	Fla. Atlantic	2	4	82.11		11397	Arkansas St	2	3	80.57		9898	Akron		1	5	73.63		9999	Army		2	4	71.96		103100	Texas-San Ant.	2	4	70.99		91101	Colorado St	2	3	70.77		94102	South Florida	1	4	66.25		123103	Iowa St		1	3	65.81		77104	Florida Int'l	1	4	63.52		111105	Memphis		1	3	62.01		101106	Tulsa		1	4	54.13		95107	Cent. Michigan	2	4	52.16		108108	East. Michigan	1	4	50.87		100109	Kentucky	1	4	47.96		105110	Louisiana Tech	2	4	46.08		112111	Purdue		1	4	44.35		106112	Connecticut	0	4	42.24		114113	Idaho		1	5	37.97		109114	New Mexico	2	3	36.11		110115	Ala.-Birmingham	1	4	35.91		107116	Air Force	1	5	23.09		117117	Temple		0	5	16.42		120118	Massachusetts	0	5	15.76		118119	Hawai`i		0	5	15.30		116120	Georgia St	0	5	14.47		124121	Southern Miss	0	5	13.93		115122	West. Michigan	0	6	13.57		121123	UTEP		1	4	10.76		119124	Miami OH	0	5	8.17		122125	New Mexico St	0	6	4.18		125

 

[Dickie Dunn]

This week's Plus-Minus and score-based ratings, now side-by-side for comparison's sake:

				PLUS-	OPP.					AVG.	OPP.		POS.	TEAM		GP	MINUS	RATING	RATING	LAST		POS.	MARGIN	RATING	RATING	LAST1	Florida St	5	1.00	1.66	2.66	3		1	25.20	37.27	62.47	42	Georgia		5	0.60	1.88	2.48	2		8	7.60	47.36	54.96	23	Stanford	5	1.00	1.45	2.45	5		9	16.00	38.95	54.95	94	Clemson		5	1.00	1.41	2.41	4		5	19.80	36.39	56.19	75	Alabama		5	1.00	1.33	2.33	1		3	22.00	34.75	56.75	16	Oklahoma	5	1.00	1.28	2.28	11		18	16.40	33.09	49.49	237	Missouri	5	1.00	1.23	2.23	15		7	21.00	34.22	55.22	138	Baylor		4	1.00	1.22	2.22	17		2	28.00	30.74	58.74	89	Ohio State	6	1.00	1.13	2.13	23		17	18.50	31.37	49.87	1710	Oregon		5	1.00	1.12	2.12	12		4	28.00	28.36	56.36	511	LSU		6	0.67	1.42	2.08	13		6	17.50	38.38	55.88	612	Michigan	5	1.00	1.08	2.08	29		35	14.80	27.42	42.22	7013	Auburn		5	0.60	1.47	2.07	25		27	6.60	38.96	45.56	2614	UCLA		4	1.00	1.06	2.06	18		13	20.75	31.72	52.47	1115	No. Illinois	5	1.00	1.06	2.06	10		55	11.80	26.81	38.61	4416	South Carolina	5	0.60	1.46	2.06	7		25	5.20	40.75	45.95	1617	Miami FL	5	1.00	1.05	2.05	42		16	20.80	29.99	50.79	3218	Texas A&M	5	0.60	1.44	2.04	14		12	16.40	36.73	53.13	1019	Texas Tech	5	1.00	1.02	2.02	9		14	22.00	29.87	51.87	1220	Florida		5	0.60	1.40	2.00	32		11	12.80	41.22	54.02	2021	Virginia Tech	6	0.67	1.33	2.00	16		36	5.50	36.63	42.13	3522	Fresno St	5	1.00	0.98	1.98	8		66	10.20	25.92	36.12	6823	Maryland	5	0.60	1.36	1.96	26		21	13.40	33.55	46.95	1824	Louisville	5	1.00	0.96	1.96	19		15	24.20	27.05	51.25	1425	Pittsburgh	4	0.50	1.43	1.93	24		53	2.00	36.82	38.82	6326	Washington	5	0.60	1.32	1.92	6		10	16.20	38.68	54.88	327	Northwestern	5	0.60	1.23	1.83	21		29	12.00	31.76	43.76	2728	Notre Dame	6	0.33	1.47	1.81	58		59	1.83	35.80	37.64	8029	Central Florida	5	0.60	1.20	1.80	27		28	12.60	32.18	44.78	2230	Houston		4	1.00	0.80	1.80	35		60	17.50	19.99	37.49	6131	Washington St	6	0.33	1.45	1.79	30		40	7.67	33.71	41.38	3932	East Carolina	5	0.60	1.17	1.77	46		34	11.60	30.76	42.36	3733	Arizona St	5	0.20	1.53	1.73	20		22	6.80	39.71	46.51	1534	Rutgers		5	0.60	1.12	1.72	38		67	10.40	25.60	36.00	6435	Ohio U.		5	0.60	1.11	1.71	28		54	7.40	31.27	38.67	6036	Arizona		4	0.50	1.20	1.70	22		23	15.75	30.65	46.40	2137	Boston College	5	0.20	1.50	1.70	56		44	0.60	39.81	40.41	6738	Nebraska	5	0.60	1.08	1.68	37		24	11.80	34.40	46.20	2939	Ball St		6	0.67	0.98	1.65	50		31	16.33	26.87	43.20	4340	Oregon St	5	0.60	1.04	1.64	33		48	10.00	29.43	39.43	5241	Michigan St	5	0.60	1.03	1.63	78		52	12.80	26.17	38.97	8142	Bowling Green	6	0.67	0.95	1.62	40		43	14.00	26.51	40.51	5143	Indiana		5	0.20	1.36	1.56	65		19	10.60	38.26	48.86	2844	Buffalo		5	0.20	1.33	1.53	68		61	2.20	35.09	37.29	7345	Mississippi	5	0.20	1.32	1.52	31		58	2.00	35.91	37.91	4246	Southern Cal	5	0.20	1.32	1.52	44		32	4.80	38.12	42.92	3347	Rice		5	0.20	1.32	1.52	63		81	-2.00	32.73	30.73	8248	Navy		4	0.50	1.02	1.52	54		42	10.00	30.87	40.87	5349	Georgia Tech	5	0.20	1.32	1.52	41		39	7.60	33.97	41.57	3850	Oklahoma St	5	0.60	0.91	1.51	61		45	12.40	27.96	40.36	4951	West Virginia	6	0.00	1.50	1.50	59		65	-3.50	40.13	36.63	6552	Tennessee	6	0.00	1.49	1.49	52		37	3.00	39.08	42.08	5553	Utah		5	0.20	1.25	1.45	43		30	5.80	37.96	43.76	3654	TCU		5	-0.20	1.65	1.45	48		20	5.20	42.81	48.01	1955	Penn State	5	0.20	1.23	1.43	39		41	7.80	33.36	41.16	2556	North Texas	5	-0.20	1.57	1.37	34		63	0.40	36.34	36.74	4857	Duke		5	0.20	1.17	1.37	62		68	4.40	31.08	35.48	7258	Arkansas	6	0.00	1.35	1.35	57		49	2.50	36.91	39.41	5059	Iowa		6	0.33	1.01	1.34	36		57	8.17	29.89	38.05	3160	Brigham Young	5	0.20	1.12	1.32	73		26	10.60	35.21	45.81	4161	Minnesota	6	0.33	0.99	1.32	51		76	7.17	25.60	32.77	4662	Toledo		6	0.00	1.30	1.30	74		56	3.33	35.25	38.58	6963	Wisconsin	5	0.20	1.06	1.26	67		33	15.00	27.91	42.91	3464	Boise St	5	0.20	1.06	1.26	53		51	9.80	29.44	39.24	4065	Colorado	4	0.00	1.25	1.25	49		88	-6.75	34.93	28.18	7966	Marshall	5	0.20	1.05	1.25	60		47	13.80	25.99	39.79	4767	West. Kentucky	6	0.33	0.92	1.25	80		73	5.83	28.72	34.55	8368	Tulane		6	0.33	0.91	1.24	90		85	4.33	25.16	29.49	8969	NC State	5	0.20	1.02	1.22	55		71	5.80	29.13	34.93	5770	La.-Lafayette	5	0.20	1.01	1.21	88		78	3.20	29.49	32.69	9171	Illinois	5	0.20	1.00	1.20	47		50	6.80	32.57	39.37	2472	Syracuse	5	-0.20	1.40	1.20	83		74	0.20	34.25	34.45	6673	Texas St.	5	0.20	0.97	1.17	45		84	0.60	29.92	30.52	5874	Wake Forest	6	0.00	1.15	1.15	97		80	1.50	29.96	31.46	9375	Virginia	5	-0.20	1.33	1.13	72		83	-5.80	36.35	30.55	7876	UNLV		5	0.20	0.92	1.12	70		97	-0.80	25.81	25.01	9277	Nevada		6	0.00	1.12	1.12	64		82	-1.67	32.38	30.71	7678	Vanderbilt	6	0.00	1.12	1.12	71		64	6.00	30.68	36.68	4579	San Diego St	5	-0.20	1.31	1.11	98		95	-7.20	33.43	26.23	9780	Texas		5	0.20	0.91	1.11	86		77	-0.20	32.91	32.71	7581	Mississippi St	5	-0.20	1.29	1.09	94		70	1.20	33.81	35.01	6282	Kansas		4	0.00	1.08	1.08	93		103	-4.25	27.55	23.30	10283	North Carolina	5	-0.60	1.66	1.06	81		79	-7.80	39.89	32.09	7784	Kansas St	5	-0.20	1.21	1.01	85		46	6.40	33.57	39.97	5485	SMU		5	-0.60	1.61	1.01	79		87	-15.20	44.15	28.95	9086	California	5	-0.60	1.60	1.00	84		93	-15.00	41.75	26.75	8587	Middle Tenn. St	6	0.00	0.98	0.98	95		90	-4.00	31.45	27.45	10188	Wyoming		5	0.20	0.78	0.98	77		62	12.00	24.78	36.78	5689	San José St	5	-0.20	1.16	0.96	92		91	-6.80	34.03	27.23	8790	Kent St		6	-0.33	1.29	0.96	89		98	-10.67	35.51	24.84	9591	Utah St		6	0.00	0.95	0.95	76		38	10.00	31.62	41.62	3092	South Alabama	5	-0.20	1.14	0.94	69		86	0.00	29.35	29.35	8493	Florida Int'l	5	-0.60	1.52	0.92	100		115	-20.80	37.99	17.19	11294	Fla. Atlantic	6	-0.33	1.25	0.91	114		89	-4.17	32.06	27.89	10595	La.-Monroe	6	-0.33	1.23	0.90	96		107	-10.67	32.00	21.33	10796	Arkansas St	5	-0.20	1.10	0.90	103		100	-7.80	32.43	24.63	10397	Army		6	-0.33	1.20	0.87	106		99	-6.67	31.45	24.78	9998	Kentucky	5	-0.60	1.44	0.84	101		69	-3.80	39.03	35.23	7499	Akron		6	-0.67	1.50	0.83	102		102	-13.33	36.64	23.31	98100	Troy		6	0.00	0.81	0.81	113		101	-1.67	25.61	23.95	100101	Connecticut	4	-1.00	1.80	0.80	109		92	-14.25	41.46	27.21	96102	Colorado St	5	-0.20	0.99	0.79	82		96	-1.60	27.48	25.88	88103	Idaho		6	-0.67	1.45	0.79	99		117	-20.00	35.40	15.40	113104	Texas-San Ant.	6	-0.33	1.12	0.78	91		108	-11.83	32.53	20.70	106105	Tulsa		5	-0.60	1.38	0.78	87		106	-14.40	36.25	21.85	108106	Cincinnati	5	0.20	0.56	0.76	66		94	7.20	19.39	26.59	71107	Memphis		4	-0.50	1.26	0.76	107		75	0.25	33.08	33.33	86108	South Florida	5	-0.60	1.31	0.71	124		111	-16.60	35.75	19.15	125109	Iowa St		4	-0.50	1.19	0.69	75		72	0.50	34.14	34.64	59110	Cent. Michigan	6	-0.33	0.98	0.64	115		116	-12.00	28.17	16.17	122111	East. Michigan	5	-0.60	1.23	0.63	105		122	-18.40	32.27	13.87	119112	Purdue		5	-0.60	1.18	0.58	110		119	-17.00	31.86	14.86	115113	Temple		5	-1.00	1.55	0.55	117		104	-11.40	34.20	22.80	110114	New Mexico	5	-0.20	0.75	0.55	111		112	-1.80	20.62	18.82	116115	Ala.-Birmingham	5	-0.60	1.06	0.46	108		105	-9.80	31.71	21.91	94116	Hawai`i		5	-1.00	1.44	0.44	104		109	-14.60	35.28	20.68	104117	Louisiana Tech	6	-0.33	0.75	0.41	120		118	-6.83	22.06	15.23	118118	Massachusetts	5	-1.00	1.30	0.30	119		113	-20.80	38.65	17.85	114119	Georgia St	5	-1.00	1.29	0.29	125		120	-20.00	34.69	14.69	124120	West. Michigan	6	-1.00	1.29	0.29	116		121	-18.50	33.08	14.58	117121	Southern Miss	5	-1.00	1.28	0.28	112		114	-17.00	34.51	17.51	109122	Air Force	6	-0.67	0.89	0.22	121		110	-12.33	31.84	19.51	111123	New Mexico St	6	-1.00	1.01	0.01	123		125	-23.00	29.22	6.22	123124	Miami OH	5	-1.00	0.94	-0.06	118		124	-22.00	31.43	9.43	120125	UTEP		5	-0.60	0.51	-0.09	122		123	-5.00	17.37	12.37	121

 

[culdeus]

SI Article on the decline of Texas Athletics is out in advance of the OU game. Covers some hoops in detail which is in many ways an even bigger dumpster fire than their football program.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20131008/texas-longhorns-athletics/?sct=hp_t1t_a2&eref=sihp

 

[fasteddie_21]

Dickey, pretty rough seeing Georgia that high. Regardless of the reasons, to struggle that badly against a wretched Tennessee team, and to be ranked that highly in your rankings seems...off.

eta: I know this evolves as the season progresses, but still, there has to be a way to factor in really bad wins.