*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[CBusAlex]

Sure it would be great for a four-team playoff, but how do you factor the bowls into the equation? Right now, P5 teams are 134-15 against non-P5 teams this season. Take those away and force P5 schools to play each other exclusively in the nonconference (or as part of 16-team mega conferences) and you're looking at a net loss of ~ 60 wins so far this season.

Why wouldn't they still be able to play non-P5 teams?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

What about some realignment in the SEC. Move Mississippi State, A&M and LSU to the East and then move Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri to the West. Would that hurt the conference; as is the conference is dominating even in recruiting 5 of the top 10 recruits in the State of Texas signed with SEC schools, A&M and LSU had 2 each and Alabama had 1. The way the confrence is algined with the West being top heavy in the rankings like one said they will cannibalize themselves and it also hurts recruiting now if you balance the conferences and they are all ranked and you now have a Top 5 team coming out of the East and West both undefeated for the Championship game that does wonders for the conference and its exposure.

You take an A&M team and move them to the East and they lose Bama and Auburn from the schedule and they end up undefeated in the East and they play an undefeated Bama or Auburn out of the West in the SEC Championship game how can a committee say that losing the Championship game doesn't give you the right to be in the playoffs.

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

I believe this came about due to protecting rivalries and good old fashioned politics.

It's also not worth realigning because which division is stronger is cyclical. It wasn't all that long ago that the East was clearly better.

 

[GoFishTN]

What about some realignment in the SEC. Move Mississippi State, A&M and LSU to the East and then move Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri to the West. Would that hurt the conference; as is the conference is dominating even in recruiting 5 of the top 10 recruits in the State of Texas signed with SEC schools, A&M and LSU had 2 each and Alabama had 1. The way the confrence is algined with the West being top heavy in the rankings like one said they will cannibalize themselves and it also hurts recruiting now if you balance the conferences and they are all ranked and you now have a Top 5 team coming out of the East and West both undefeated for the Championship game that does wonders for the conference and its exposure.

You take an A&M team and move them to the East and they lose Bama and Auburn from the schedule and they end up undefeated in the East and they play an undefeated Bama or Auburn out of the West in the SEC Championship game how can a committee say that losing the Championship game doesn't give you the right to be in the playoffs.

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

I believe this came about due to protecting rivalries and good old fashioned politics.

It's also not worth realigning because which division is stronger is cyclical. It wasn't all that long ago that the East was clearly better.

And soon will be again.

 

[hagmania]

SEC should probably go through with a relegation system.

 

[Tom Servo]

Interactive map of NCAA fandom based on hometown.

 

[hagmania]

Interactive map of NCAA fandom based on hometown.

Ransom County, North Dakota - Duke Blue Devils 8%

 

[Guest]

Interactive map of NCAA fandom based on hometown.

Ransom County, North Dakota - Duke Blue Devils 8%

There's a bunch with Duke listed. It must have been the default "no preference".

ETA: Or they thought the question was about basketball.

 

[gump]

Is it now possible that SEC West could get three teams in the tournament. I'm 75% serious here.

Bama

msu/tamu winner

LSU or msu/tamu loser

I guess anything's possible.

The Anti-SEC crowd would lose their ####### minds if something like this happened.

Problem is looking ahead at schedules:

Miss State : TAMU, Auburn, Kentucky, Ark, UTM, Vandy, Alabama, Ole Miss

TAMU: MIss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Louisiana Monroe, Auburn, Mizzou, LSU.

Poor A&M have ONE unranked opponent left, and are yet to face 5 of the top 15. Sick.

There's going to have to be some cannibalization within the west, and there's just not really anyone strong enough out of the East to get through (likely going to lose the SEC Champ Game)

Honestly, if you want the best 4 teams in the tournament you have to get 3 from SEC West. Somehow.

3 SEC teams and whomever is undefeated between FSU and Baylor/OU

Do people really wonder why the SEC is hated? So arrogant.

Culdeus is an SEC guy? I know he lives in TX...maybe TAMU...but wasn't sure and don't recall him showing much fandom.

 

[gump]

So...anyone want to talk about this weekend's awesome slate of games? I'm sure there's gotta be a few of you that don't want to just menstruate about the playoff that starts more than two months from now that will not involve several of the teams currently being discussed because this is college football and upsets happen.

Please?

I need something to do between innings and it isn't going to be work.

I haven't been this excited about a day of college football probably ever. I even opened an account to wager on some of them!

I don't recall a better day...at least this early.

 

[gump]

The fact that a college team can play a 12 game schedule with 8 home games is astonishingly insane to me

Who has 8 home games? The goal is normally 7...minimum 6.

 

[hagmania]

What about some realignment in the SEC. Move Mississippi State, A&M and LSU to the East and then move Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri to the West. Would that hurt the conference; as is the conference is dominating even in recruiting 5 of the top 10 recruits in the State of Texas signed with SEC schools, A&M and LSU had 2 each and Alabama had 1. The way the confrence is algined with the West being top heavy in the rankings like one said they will cannibalize themselves and it also hurts recruiting now if you balance the conferences and they are all ranked and you now have a Top 5 team coming out of the East and West both undefeated for the Championship game that does wonders for the conference and its exposure.

You take an A&M team and move them to the East and they lose Bama and Auburn from the schedule and they end up undefeated in the East and they play an undefeated Bama or Auburn out of the West in the SEC Championship game how can a committee say that losing the Championship game doesn't give you the right to be in the playoffs.

I personally think the Selection Committee should select the 4 playoff teams prior to Championship weekend so none of the conference championships come into play.

I believe this came about due to protecting rivalries and good old fashioned politics.

It's also not worth realigning because which division is stronger is cyclical. It wasn't all that long ago that the East was clearly better.

#wherehaveyougonefatphil

Great Pumpkins never die, they just roll away...

 

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It's also not worth realigning because which division is stronger is cyclical. It wasn't all that long ago that the East was clearly better.

Yep.

 

[gump]

Man my bama-fan friends are wayyyyyyy too overconfident heading into this game. This meme is running rampant.

This is Ole Miss' superbowl. Despite the relatively early kickoff for a game of this caliber, the crowd will be well-lubricated with bourbon and should make for a solid environment despite the small stadium.

Statfox has the true line at Ole Miss -2

Bama is 1-2-1 ATS this year.. Ole Miss is 4-0

Bama Defense has allowed 56 points against

Ole Miss Defense has allowed 34 points against

Surprising given Bama's SOS is on par with Ole Miss's (29.7 vs 29.3 opponent power rating)

Not that this isn't obvious, but Bo Wallace is the lynchpin of this whole thing. Should be one hell of a game.

Wallace and Sims. Sims first big road test...vs a very good D. His mobility may be the difference.The Ds have only given up 5 TDs total, minus turnovers and ST....3 by Bama.

A lot of experts picking Ole Miss and the points...agree it'll be a barn burner.

if both defenses are that good it sure doesn't sound like a barn burner. It sounds like a 10-6 game. Hope I'm wrong.

This isn't Bama-LSU 2011...the defenses aren't THAT good. And the offenses are both significantly better...both top 25 in scoring.

O/U is 52.5.

 

[The Commish]

I don't buy Ole Miss and I don't buy LSU. I don't think Alabama has any real problem...same with Auburn.

 

[Joe T]

LSU is not very good. They are way too young.

I think Ole Miss has a shot against Bama.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Does anyone see a scenario where NO SEC is in the 4 team playoff?

 

[Guest]

Does anyone see a scenario where NO SEC is in the 4 team playoff?

Would have to be a crazy year, but pretty sure the champ gets in.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I'm on the over in all 3 big SEC games.

SEC defense and style of play ain't what it was 3 years ago.

 

[Premier]

Man everybody in Tennessee looks like they could be the villain in True Detective.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Does anyone see a scenario where NO SEC is in the 4 team playoff?

Would have to be a crazy year, but pretty sure the champ gets in.

I think as long as ESPN keeps pimping the SEC they will get someone in regardless of record.

 

[gump]

Man everybody in Tennessee looks like they could be the villain in True Detective.

The obnoxious orange doesn't help.

 

[timschochet]

Man everybody in Tennessee looks like they could be the villain in True Detective.

how was the drive?

 

[GDogg]

UCLA

Oklahoma

Alabama

Florida State

UCLA had trouble with Memphis and you think they're one of the top four programs in the nation?

Ole Miss is counting Memphis as a HIGH QUALITY non-conference win imo.

Memphis' only other loss was a nail-biter to the pride of the PAC12 at home... and Ole Miss beat them much more handily than UCLA did

Just sayin....

They did?

UCLA was up by 14 multiple times throughout the game as well as heading into the fourth quarter. UCLA admittedly played poorly.

Ole Miss and Memphis was a 7 to 3 game heading into the fourth quarter.

They were both nail biters. Ole Miss didn't go up by more than one score until 9 minutes were left. They scored their second TD of the game with a minute left.

But, I'm sure you knew well that and didn't just look at the final scores...

 

[gump]

So Bama's 2nd WR...DeAndrew White...is a game time decision now due to a toe sprain vs UF.

The WR depth is like never before there...but to lose an experienced, fast, great blocking WR when Ole MIss will be focused on stopping Cooper could be important.

 

[timschochet]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

 

[CBusAlex]

Does anyone see a scenario where NO SEC is in the 4 team playoff?

Are you talking theoretical, what-if-Alabama-loses-to-West-Carolina type scenarios, or things that might actually happen? If it's the latter, then no.

I mean, I guess if the West beats each other up enough that the winner of the division has two losses, then somehow ####s the bed against a 9-3 Missouri in the championship game... maybe. But I think the SEC mojo is strong enough that two losses still gets the champ into the playoffs in most reasonable scenarios.

 

[gump]

Katy Perry as guest picker in Oxford...hopefully in a v-neck.

 

[AAABatteries]

Does anyone see a scenario where NO SEC is in the 4 team playoff?

Ebola breakout in the Southeast US comes to mind.

 

[Premier]

Man everybody in Tennessee looks like they could be the villain in True Detective.

how was the drive?

Georgia leading into Tennessee was gorgeous for about 2 hours with the mountains. Loved it. Tennessee itself was a little disappointing.

 

[Christo]

Just in case anyone is interested, I want both of these teams to lose because of their uniforms.

Get off my lawn!

 

[Christo]

Anyone know how good TCU really is? Any chance they upset tomorrow?

/christo

Well, I'm more scared of TCU than Texas for what that's worth.

 

[Christo]

And after getting caught up with the last three pages I want several of you bastards to get off my lawn as well.

 

[Christo]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

I'm going next year.

 

[whoknew]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

Who told you that?

TN is a great state, but not because of the BBQ.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I thought Arkansas was supposed to have the best BBQ.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think the only way to really settle it is for FFA'ers from each state to send me some barbequed ribs.

 

[timschochet]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

Who told you that?

TN is a great state, but not because of the BBQ.

A few friends. Also a few writers like John Grisham. He's always raving about Memphis BBQ restaurants.

 

[timschochet]

All I know is that in Southern California I'm not getting any good ribs. There's a few places like Louise's that CLAIM they feature southern BBQ, but I have a feeling it's not the same thing. And that goes for fried chicken too.

 

[Mile High]

I mean if they really wanted to do it "right" they'd have only 4 Power Conferences with a huge realignment, and the 4 conference winners play the bowl playoffs.

I said this years ago, except with 6 conferences and a few wild cards and was laughed away on this board b/c I said it would create all sorts of crazy realignment.

Conferences have pretty much jumped the shark anyway.

 

[culdeus]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

Who told you that?

TN is a great state, but not because of the BBQ.

oh ####, you are gonna get icon in here

 

[whoknew]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

Who told you that?

TN is a great state, but not because of the BBQ.

A few friends. Also a few writers like John Grisham. He's always raving about Memphis BBQ restaurants.

Fair enough. Memphis has a few great places. But that's really it. Nashville's BBQ is not very good.

Texas BBQ is much, much better and has much more depth. There're 50 places in Texas that are as good as the best place in Memphis.

 

[culdeus]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

Who told you that?

TN is a great state, but not because of the BBQ.

A few friends. Also a few writers like John Grisham. He's always raving about Memphis BBQ restaurants.

Fair enough. Memphis has a few great places. But that's really it. Nashville's BBQ is not very good.

Texas BBQ is much, much better and has much more depth. There're 50 places in Texas that are as good as the best place in Memphis.

They have to import bbq from nola just to have a competition too.

 

[Gambino]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

This post makes you seem human.

 

[timschochet]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

This post makes you seem human.

thats the 2nd compliment from you today. It makes me nervous.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Sure it would be great for a four-team playoff, but how do you factor the bowls into the equation? Right now, P5 teams are 134-15 against non-P5 teams this season. Take those away and force P5 schools to play each other exclusively in the nonconference (or as part of 16-team mega conferences) and you're looking at a net loss of ~ 60 wins so far this season.

Why wouldn't they still be able to play non-P5 teams?

No serious proposals, but I have seen chatter out there that they should avoid scheduling non-P5 teams for "strength of schedule" purposes. But that really only helps the teams at the top. How do you convince the Rutgers, Indiana, Cal, Vanderbilt, etc. of the world to go along with that?

 

[Premier]

I am sorry to announce that despite rave reviews on the trusty internet, Johnson Brothers and Sister BBQ is out of business. Nobody was there and the phone was disconnected.

The good, but not great news is that we ended up at Dead End BBQ which has phenomenal chicken wings and the best banana pudding I have ever had. Alas, the burnt ends were overly done (there's a thin line there and they crossed it) and the cornbread was as dry as paste.

The people here are nice though. I wore my Florida State shirt out to give both fanbases the finger.

 

[Gambino]

I'd love to go to Tennessee. See Memphis, Nashville, Graceland, the Grand Ole Opry. The works . Have BBQ every night (supposed to be the best anywhere) listen to country music and blues. I'm going someday.

This post makes you seem human.

thats the 2nd compliment from you today. It makes me nervous.

Don't worry, you'll say something really dumb tomorrow and I'll call you on it.

 

[Premier]

Sounds like a challenge to not say anything dumb or really even post at all tomorrow Tim.

 

[GDogg]

All I know is that in Southern California I'm not getting any good ribs. There's a few places like Louise's that CLAIM they feature southern BBQ, but I have a feeling it's not the same thing. And that goes for fried chicken too.

Bludso's can compete with anywhere. You'd have to go to Compton, though.

 

[Tiger Fan]

It's weekends like this that make me miss college big time. The atmosphere 24 hours before game time is second to none.