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[uconnalum]

In all honesty I think the Playoff committee does not want to see Georgia from the East win the SEC Championship because you can possibly have two 1 loss SEC Schools ranked in the AP Top 5 waiting for a call to see if they made the 4 team playoffs. (Hypothetically say Georgia beat Ole Miss in the title game)

If you are going to automatically include Georgia for winning the SEC Title and FSU for winning out and winning the ACC.

How does the committee choose other conference teams over Auburn who wins out and is possibly ranked 3rd in the country that they are not worthy of a spot.

How does the committee say the same thing to Missippi State who was undefeated and ranked 1st going into the Egg Bowl but came up short and lost to Ole Miss and they dropped to 4th in the AP.

This can cause mayhem for the committee if Georgia won the SEC Title

UGA plays Auburn, so they can't both win out. Ole Miss also plays Auburn. At least one of those three will have 2+ losses.

I stated Auburn finishes the season with 1 loss and Ole Miss also finishes with 1 loss. Georgia is in the SEC East so they can go to the championship game with 2 losses. Now only 1 of the 1 loss teams will play in the SEC Championship game between Auburn/Ole Miss/ Mississipi State. The other two will be sitting at home twittling there thumbs.

Now Georgia wins SEC Championship and you tell the 2 teams ranked in the top 5 sitting at home on championship weekend they are undeserving of a spot in the 4 team playoff. This causes more problems than it solves.

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

 

[Dippa]

In all honesty I think the Playoff committee does not want to see Georgia from the East win the SEC Championship because you can possibly have two 1 loss SEC Schools ranked in the AP Top 5 waiting for a call to see if they made the 4 team playoffs. (Hypothetically say Georgia beat Ole Miss in the title game)

If you are going to automatically include Georgia for winning the SEC Title and FSU for winning out and winning the ACC.

How does the committee choose other conference teams over Auburn who wins out and is possibly ranked 3rd in the country that they are not worthy of a spot.

How does the committee say the same thing to Missippi State who was undefeated and ranked 1st going into the Egg Bowl but came up short and lost to Ole Miss and they dropped to 4th in the AP.

This can cause mayhem for the committee if Georgia won the SEC Title

UGA plays Auburn, so they can't both win out. Ole Miss also plays Auburn. At least one of those three will have 2+ losses.

I stated Auburn finishes the season with 1 loss and Ole Miss also finishes with 1 loss. Georgia is in the SEC East so they can go to the championship game with 2 losses. Now only 1 of the 1 loss teams will play in the SEC Championship game between Auburn/Ole Miss/ Mississipi State. The other two will be sitting at home twittling there thumbs.

Now Georgia wins SEC Championship and you tell the 2 teams ranked in the top 5 sitting at home on championship weekend they are undeserving of a spot in the 4 team playoff. This causes more problems than it solves.

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

I got your point in the first post. UGA can get into the SEC championship with 2 losses, but I don't think they'd be in the conversation for the playoff with 2 losses if they won the SEC.

 

[Christo]

So, Doug Lesmeries of Cleveland.com, moved the Arizona Wildcats up 11 spots this week on his AP ballot. Arizona was on a bye.

They must have had some goooooooooooooooooooooood practices.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Let's just all agree that we are glad that Scottybo won't be in that committee room in early December.

He's got my team in the top 4, ahead of a team that beat them by 19. Scottybo for committee chairman!

 

[scottybo]

Let's just all agree that we are glad that Scottybo won't be in that committee room in early December.

He's got my team in the top 4, ahead of a team that beat them by 19. Scottybo for committee chairman!

They'll be bumped if a good "Away" Bama shows up against Tennessee.

 

[Hunterbeer]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slant

http://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

BOTH WRs were blocking on the play. Are you going to ignore the second guy too?

 

[Hunterbeer]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

Loss vs ranked team > Loss vs unranked team

So head-to-head matters not to you.

 

[Hunterbeer]

Brian Kelly on the play: "Refs answer gave me even less clarity by calling it on Fuller. Adds more uncertainty to final play. Fuller didn't go out of his way to impeded the defender and the official furthest from the play threw the flag. Officials also missed FSU penalty for the player who removed his helmet after the pass to Robinson. Refs admitted they missed call on player removing helmet."

At worst, it should have been offsetting penalties with ND getting another shot at the 3 on 4th down. I'm glad Kelly isn't dropping this if nothing for the political positioning required now with the 4 team playoff.

The helmet removal was AFTER the play, thus it still would have been FSU ball.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

So, Doug Lesmeries of Cleveland.com, moved the Arizona Wildcats up 11 spots this week on his AP ballot. Arizona was on a bye.

Good anti-Michigan shtick here IMO.

 

[Jayded]

Brian Kelly on the play: "Refs answer gave me even less clarity by calling it on Fuller. Adds more uncertainty to final play. Fuller didn't go out of his way to impeded the defender and the official furthest from the play threw the flag. Officials also missed FSU penalty for the player who removed his helmet after the pass to Robinson. Refs admitted they missed call on player removing helmet."

At worst, it should have been offsetting penalties with ND getting another shot at the 3 on 4th down. I'm glad Kelly isn't dropping this if nothing for the political positioning required now with the 4 team playoff.

The helmet removal was AFTER the play, thus it still would have been FSU ball.

Incorrect. The call is dead ball but it doesn't constitute a post-possession foul. Besides, do you really think Kelly would call that out if it meant FSU just had to move back a few yards to kneel the ball down?

PENALTY—Live-ball fouls by players: 15 yards [s27]. Live-ball fouls by non-players and all dead-ball fouls: 15 yards from succeeding spot [s7 and S27]. Automatic first down for fouls by Team B if not in conflict with other rules. Flagrant offenders, if players or substitutes, shall be disqualified [s47].
http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think he's butthurt and whining

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Let's just all agree that we are glad that Scottybo won't be in that committee room in early December.

He's got my team in the top 4, ahead of a team that beat them by 19. Scottybo for committee chairman!

totally agree

Go Green

 

[Abraham]

I think he's butthurt and whining

Well, that would be the first time anyone associated with notre Dame football was butt hurt and whining.

 

[Tom Servo]

I think he's butthurt and whining

Well, that would be the first time anyone associated with notre Dame football was butt hurt and whining.

 

[gump]

I think he's butthurt and whining

So did he call a play he knew was on the edge of illegal? Or did the WRs just do something they shouldn't have? I'd guess the former...and odd Kelly isn't getting criticized for it.

 

[Premier]

I think he's butthurt and whining

So did he call a play he knew was on the edge of illegal? Or did the WRs just do something they shouldn't have? I'd guess the former...and odd Kelly isn't getting criticized for it.

It sounds like he is defending his play calling with the whole "we don't coach illegal plays" shtick.

 

[NutterButter]

I think he's butthurt and whining

So did he call a play he knew was on the edge of illegal? Or did the WRs just do something they shouldn't have? I'd guess the former...and odd Kelly isn't getting criticized for it.

Pick plays are extremely common. It wasn't well executed. You need to sell the route more and not just go into full blocking mode.

 

[NutterButter]

Brian Kelly on the play: "Refs answer gave me even less clarity by calling it on Fuller. Adds more uncertainty to final play. Fuller didn't go out of his way to impeded the defender and the official furthest from the play threw the flag. Officials also missed FSU penalty for the player who removed his helmet after the pass to Robinson. Refs admitted they missed call on player removing helmet."

At worst, it should have been offsetting penalties with ND getting another shot at the 3 on 4th down. I'm glad Kelly isn't dropping this if nothing for the political positioning required now with the 4 team playoff.

The helmet removal was AFTER the play, thus it still would have been FSU ball.

Incorrect. The call is dead ball but it doesn't constitute a post-possession foul. Besides, do you really think Kelly would call that out if it meant FSU just had to move back a few yards to kneel the ball down?

PENALTY—Live-ball fouls by players: 15 yards [s27]. Live-ball fouls by non-players and all dead-ball fouls: 15 yards from succeeding spot [s7 and S27]. Automatic first down for fouls by Team B if not in conflict with other rules. Flagrant offenders, if players or substitutes, shall be disqualified [s47].
http://www.dfoa.com/attachments/article/69/2013-14_Football_Rule_Book.pdf

And it happened after the Robinson td, not after the interception. It was still ND ball.

 

[kardplayer]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

 

[The Ref]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

 

[The Commish]

In all honesty I think the Playoff committee does not want to see Georgia from the East win the SEC Championship because you can possibly have two 1 loss SEC Schools ranked in the AP Top 5 waiting for a call to see if they made the 4 team playoffs. (Hypothetically say Georgia beat Ole Miss in the title game)

If you are going to automatically include Georgia for winning the SEC Title and FSU for winning out and winning the ACC.

How does the committee choose other conference teams over Auburn who wins out and is possibly ranked 3rd in the country that they are not worthy of a spot.

How does the committee say the same thing to Missippi State who was undefeated and ranked 1st going into the Egg Bowl but came up short and lost to Ole Miss and they dropped to 4th in the AP.

This can cause mayhem for the committee if Georgia won the SEC Title

UGA plays Auburn, so they can't both win out. Ole Miss also plays Auburn. At least one of those three will have 2+ losses.

I stated Auburn finishes the season with 1 loss and Ole Miss also finishes with 1 loss. Georgia is in the SEC East so they can go to the championship game with 2 losses. Now only 1 of the 1 loss teams will play in the SEC Championship game between Auburn/Ole Miss/ Mississipi State. The other two will be sitting at home twittling there thumbs.

Now Georgia wins SEC Championship and you tell the 2 teams ranked in the top 5 sitting at home on championship weekend they are undeserving of a spot in the 4 team playoff. This causes more problems than it solves.

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

It would be the NCAA vs the schools and the bowls if this were to happen. The NCAA doesn't have a prayer. I'm sure they'd love to weasel on on the CFB post season pay day, but I can't see that happening with the NCAA tournament debacle fresh in the minds of all the NCAA sanctioned schools.

 

[gump]

There are approximately 128 teams in FBS that run pick/rub plays, not sure why he would get criticized for calling it. Him playing coy with the "we don't call illegal plays" shtick is ridiculous.

That's really what I meant. I understand they are common...but if it gets called, then you have to live with it.

 

[The Commish]

There are approximately 128 teams in FBS that run pick/rub plays, not sure why he would get criticized for calling it. Him playing coy with the "we don't call illegal plays" shtick is ridiculous.

They had done it earlier in the game and didn't get called for it To me, that play is a question of whether you call it or not similar to holding. If it's a problem and that ref crew doesn't like it, call it. That's fine. Just be consistent.

 

[The Commish]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

college basketball and major league baseball come to mind.

 

[jurb26]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

Well there is the second largest collegiate sport where the same thing can occur. College basketball. Then you have college baseball, hockey and soccer. All of which the same can happen. Basically, near all college sports can have a team not Winning their conference and still win the Championship. Of course those sports also have a legitimate tournament and playoff system. Which we still don't have.

 

[Guest]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

Baseball wildcard. But I agree about CF conference champs.

 

[Guest]

There are approximately 128 teams in FBS that run pick/rub plays, not sure why he would get criticized for calling it. Him playing coy with the "we don't call illegal plays" shtick is ridiculous.

They had done it earlier in the game and didn't get called for it To me, that play is a question of whether you call it or not similar to holding. If it's a problem and that ref crew doesn't like it, call it. That's fine. Just be consistent.

Was the first as obvious as the second? I ask because I don't know. I don't mind the play call, but it was poorly executed by the WRs.

 

[The Commish]

There are approximately 128 teams in FBS that run pick/rub plays, not sure why he would get criticized for calling it. Him playing coy with the "we don't call illegal plays" shtick is ridiculous.

They had done it earlier in the game and didn't get called for it To me, that play is a question of whether you call it or not similar to holding. If it's a problem and that ref crew doesn't like it, call it. That's fine. Just be consistent.

Was the first as obvious as the second? I ask because I don't know. I don't mind the play call, but it was poorly executed by the WRs.

Well, I noticed it. According to my wife, I'm not very observant, but I see plays like that all the time that go uncalled. If that ball were thrown behind the LOS, we aren't having this discussion as everything done there would have been "legal". To me, this ranks right up there with a holding call made on the last play of the game that could be made on every play and they choose not to. Again, I don't have a problem with it being called, but they could at least be consistent about it and not interject themselves into the middle of a pretty good game.

 

[scottybo]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

Loss vs ranked team > Loss vs unranked team

So head-to-head matters not to you.

Not in this case. Not alone: http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

 

[The Ref]

Lot of people haven't turned on their sarcasm meter this morning

What sarcasm?

 

[Tom Servo]

I think he's butthurt and whining

So did he call a play he knew was on the edge of illegal? Or did the WRs just do something they shouldn't have? I'd guess the former...and odd Kelly isn't getting criticized for it.

Pick plays are extremely common. It wasn't well executed. You need to sell the route more and not just go into full blocking mode.

Or you could not attempt it 5 yards away from the tackle box where it could easily be seen.

 

[jurb26]

Archie resigns from playoff committee, punches Condy Rice in the babymaker

Who's on the waiting list?

 

[NutterButter]

There are approximately 128 teams in FBS that run pick/rub plays, not sure why he would get criticized for calling it. Him playing coy with the "we don't call illegal plays" shtick is ridiculous.

They had done it earlier in the game and didn't get called for it To me, that play is a question of whether you call it or not similar to holding. If it's a problem and that ref crew doesn't like it, call it. That's fine. Just be consistent.

Was the first as obvious as the second? I ask because I don't know. I don't mind the play call, but it was poorly executed by the WRs.

Absolutely not. The first was more a rub than a pick play.

 

[Tom Servo]

Archie resigns from playoff committee, punches Condy Rice in the babymaker

Who's on the waiting list?

Scottybo.

 

[NutterButter]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

college basketball and major league baseball come to mind.

What major sport does that not apply to? All don't require you to win your division/conference to win championship.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

college basketball and major league baseball come to mind.

What major sport does that not apply to? All don't require you to win your division/conference to win championship.

The difference is that none of the others are picking a field of 4 out of 128 after a 12-game regular season. .

 

[NutterButter]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

college basketball and major league baseball come to mind.

What major sport does that not apply to? All don't require you to win your division/conference to win championship.

The difference is that none of the others are picking a field of 4 out of 128 after a 12-game regular season. .

So there really is no sport to compare it to then?

 

[Jayded]

What'll be really interesting to see is if a two loss Georgia team knocks off Ole Miss in the SEC championship game, who makes it to the final 4 and who is out? Can you put a two loss SEC champion in the final 4 if there are a slew of 1 loss teams? What about Ole Miss if their lone loss is in the conference title game?

Really, if we run with that scenario and Bama wins out, Bama has one loss and so would Ole Miss and Georgia would be SEC champ with two losses (again hypothetical scenario, but possible if they lose to Auburn), what should the committee do?

 

[gump]

Lots of talk about Muschamp being ok for 2 weeks until UGA at least...but overall it's getting ugly. If he loses in Jville, they drop to 3-4...and a lot of people would be surprised if he made it past that Monday.

Meanwhile when Hoke loses this weekend to MSU, Michigan drops to 3-5. But it seems much more quiet lately on his firing.

They both been on the job for 4 years. Will be interesting to see the difference in how these two similar programs handle this.

 

[The Ref]

Lots of talk about Muschamp being ok for 2 weeks until UGA at least...but overall it's getting ugly. If he loses in Jville, they drop to 3-4...and a lot of people would be surprised if he made it past that Monday.

Meanwhile when Hoke loses this weekend to MSU, Michigan drops to 3-5. But it seems much more quiet lately on his firing.

They both been on the job for 4 years. Will be interesting to see the difference in how these two similar programs handle this.

I'm guessing there will be very little difference on how they handle this.

 

[The Commish]

Lots of talk about Muschamp being ok for 2 weeks until UGA at least...but overall it's getting ugly. If he loses in Jville, they drop to 3-4...and a lot of people would be surprised if he made it past that Monday.

Meanwhile when Hoke loses this weekend to MSU, Michigan drops to 3-5. But it seems much more quiet lately on his firing.

They both been on the job for 4 years. Will be interesting to see the difference in how these two similar programs handle this.

Couple reasons for Hoke stuff. #1. Everyone hates the AD and their focus is on him. #2. Michigan doesn't typically fire coaches mid season. Oddly enough, the offense has actually shown signs of improvement, though be it small signs. It's improvement nonetheless. I am 100% confident when Michigan loses this week, they will begin lighting the torches, coming after Hoke even though there has been a significant wave of support from boosters and former players for Hoke the last few weeks.

 

[uconnalum]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

March Madness this year the two finalists Uconn and Kentucky neither of them won there conference championship.

 

[Slapdash]

You may burn me at the stake for saying this but if the NCAA wants to get it right they have to tell the sponsors and the bowl committees to go F themselves, they have to tell the small schools like Samford, Chattanooga, Savannah State find your payday elsewhere, and make a 9 game schedule (no cupcakes and 1 bye week) and use the other remaining weeks to build a playoff system. Whether it is 16 or 24 teams but get something right and let it not be about the money but just crowning a champion the money will follow. Remember the financial windfall for the NCAA and March Madness came long after it had already been around.

What they really should do is say that if you can't win your conference, you can't be national champ. Just pick the 4 best conference champs and have them go at it for the title.

Completely agree..... Name another sport where you can win in the championship without winning your division/Conferance.

March Madness this year the two finalists Uconn and Kentucky neither of them won there conference championship.

Pretty much ruins the sport.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Lots of talk about Muschamp being ok for 2 weeks until UGA at least...but overall it's getting ugly. If he loses in Jville, they drop to 3-4...

The fact that he would then be 0-4 against his alma mater certainly would be a topic of discussion.

For reference, Spurrier, Zook and Meyer each lost once to Georgia during their tenures.

 

[gump]

Lots of talk about Muschamp being ok for 2 weeks until UGA at least...but overall it's getting ugly. If he loses in Jville, they drop to 3-4...

The fact that he would then be 0-4 against his alma mater certainly would be a topic of discussion.

For reference, Spurrier, Zook and Meyer each lost once to Georgia during their tenures.

Yea...that doesn't help. Hoke will likely be 1-3 vs Mich State and Ohio State.

 

[Hunterbeer]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

Loss vs ranked team > Loss vs unranked team

So head-to-head matters not to you.

Not in this case. Not alone: http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

Didn't say you were alone, just think you and those coaches (or whomever they handed their ballot to -- ballboy, manager, etc) are in this case. Perfect reason we stopped going soley by coaches or media only polls. Oregon is better than Michigan St. They beat them head-to-head and have more good wins this year.

 

[Joe T]

Has anyone mentioned that if the playoff started today there would be 3 teams in from the SEC (west)?

 

[Moe.]

Has anyone mentioned that if the playoff started today there would be 3 teams in from the SEC (west)?

Has anyone mentioned how stupid it would be to start the playoff halfway through the season?

 

[Premier]

Has anyone mentioned that LSU sucks?

 

[Joe T]

Has anyone mentioned that if the playoff started today there would be 3 teams in from the SEC (west)?

Has anyone mentioned how stupid it would be to start the playoff halfway through the season?

I don't think so.