Congrats Denver fans!
Amazing.Broncos played the #1, #3, and #4 offenses in the post season. They held them to 10, 18, and 16 points, respectively. over these 3 games, they recorded 14 sacks and only allowed 7 3rd down conversions.
they were so good all season, but it seemed like they (and Miller specifically) really ratcheted it up in the postseason--especially the AFCCG and Super Bowl.in the playoffs, the Broncos D allowed just one passing TD - from Rothlesburger, Brady, and CamVP combined.
They also allowed just 1 rushing TD per game - none from further out than 1 yard.
While I agree regarding the cornerbacks, if they found themselves in a situation where they had to keep one of those corners or a pass rusher, you keep the pass rusher, IMO. But yeah, having three corners that good is a big part of why that D was so great this past season. Even the best pass rushes are gonna have games, possessions, downs, etc. where they don't get pressure, and having a secondary that good that can cover makes a big difference in those instances. As an offense going against them, it has to be frustrating knowing that even if you block well and give your QB time to throw, it is still hard for anyone to get open.thatguy said:Was listening to Cecil Lammey on the fan the other day (and today) and he and Chad Brown have both kind of swung me toward the idea that Denver would be better off letting Malik walk given the huge money he'll command and instead focusing on locking down Trevathan. Trevathan is so important to the defense given his ability as a 3 down LB. He's great against the run, has elite speed and pursuit and is among the best LB's in the league in coverage. I think that skillset is more unique and thus more valuable than what Malik brings to the table, particularly because it will come at a fraction of the cost.
That said, I think Lammey has lost his mind as he also suggested that Denver should part ways with Talib. That, IMHO, is perhaps the worst idea I've heard in a long time. The whole of his reasoning was that it would allow Roby to shine as a starter opposite Harris (even though Roby already shines pretty damn bright as the best nickel back in football). Apparently he doesn't realize that having a guy like Roby as your nickel back is a luxury most teams could only dream of and one of the reasons Denver's defense has been so successful. With not 1, not 2, but 3 CB's that you can confidently line up man on man against the other team's top 3 receiving options, the whole defensive playbook opens up and allows a defensive genius like Wade to construct unique and aggressive schemes that would otherwise be inconceivable.
look at the GB game - Rodgers had plenty of time to run around and make throws, but he had no one open.While I agree regarding the cornerbacks, if they found themselves in a situation where they had to keep one of those corners or a pass rusher, you keep the pass rusher, IMO. But yeah, having three corners that good is a big part of why that D was so great this past season. Even the best pass rushes are gonna have games, possessions, downs, etc. where they don't get pressure, and having a secondary that good that can cover makes a big difference in those instances. As an offense going against them, it has to be frustrating knowing that even if you block well and give your QB time to throw, it is still hard for anyone to get open.
Re: Malik. I feel the same way. I stated as much in AD's mock draft thread. I'm coming around to Denver going to DL with their first pick when I previously couldn't imagine them going any direction but OL. This is a pretty weak draft for OL and a very deep class for everything defense. I think one of the Alabama DT's would be a nice replacement for Malik at a fraction of the cost and with (probably) more upside (albeit considerably more downside, too). One thing Shanny showed was that you can find OL who fit the zone blocking scheme in the later rounds and I think Elway/Kubiak will rebuild the OLine in that manner.look at the GB game - Rodgers had plenty of time to run around and make throws, but he had no one open.
I think Malik is gone. I don't think he's a transcendent talent, but he wants to be paid like one, and someone will do it. I think Malik is a good player that looked great playing along side Wolfe, Miller, and Ware. Let the man go get his money. We'll take the comp pick in 2017, and it will continue to show free agents looking to resurrect their career that coming to Denver and having a great season will get them paid the big bucks.
The Broncos have been successful plugging guys into that DT role. It was Pot Roast last couple of years and Vickerson/Bunkley were serviceable before him. MLB has been tougher to find pieces. Marshall/Trevathan, while not the best in the league, have been more than adequate and this is the best MLB set we've had probably since Al Wilson retired.
I could not agree more with this statement. In the San Diego game, when Brock was yanked and Peyton came in, the one thing that stood out immediately was just how much quicker Peyton gets rid of the ball, and on the flipside, just how long Brock holds onto the ball. The difference was like night and day. If he can remedy that, which will likely come with more game experience and learning to read the defenses and go through his progressions quicker, he could be pretty special. But even if he's not special, he's at least a relatively known commodity and by all accounts has earned the respect and trust of his teammates, and that is all that matters. They might end up overpaying a bit, but it has to be done.Yep, Elway has done a phenomenal job at accumulating talent, and I have faith that he will replenish once they lose a few guys to free agency, which is inevitable.
Agreed that keeping Osweiler is key. He is still a work in progress - he needs to learn to get rid of the ball quicker when the play looks dead in the water, although taking a sack is better than hurrying a pass and throwing a pick - but Kubiak is great with QBs and can help him get better.
Average age: 29.8. This defense was ranked 32nd in points, 32nd in yards.The year before Elway came back to the Broncos, here was your starting line-up on defense:DE Kevin VickersonNT Jamal WilliamsRDE Justin BannanB Jason HunterLILB D.J. WilliamsRILB Mario HagganROLB Robert AyersLCB Champ BaileyRCB Perrish CoxRCB Andre' GoodmanSS Brian DawkinsFS Renaldo Hill
Oh, and FU McDaniels!!