Denver724
Footballguy
Pretty even. Some are real high on McCoy though. I would probably lean Mason and Allen.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
- Start date
One More Rep
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Are all the people taking mason/allen in that one real high on mason? Real high on allen? Real down on mccoy? Little of all three?
Denver724
Footballguy
16 team PPR. Start 1 RB.
· Team A gave up Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick (2.08);Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick (3.08)
· Team B gave up Murray, Latavius OAK RB;Allen, Keenan SDC WR; Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.11)
Brown by a mile. Wish I would have made an offer.
· Team A gave up Brown, Antonio PIT WR; Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick (2.08);Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick (3.08)
· Team B gave up Murray, Latavius OAK RB;Allen, Keenan SDC WR; Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.11)
Brown by a mile. Wish I would have made an offer.
Last edited by a moderator:
Antonio easily and 1RB/16 teams just makes it worse. Elite talent gets thinner so much faster in these deep leagues.
Ooof...
Last edited by a moderator:
One More Rep
Footballguy
How bout down on Hunter - just a throw in for me. McCoy seems overrated and Mason looks to be legitimate. Allen is much better than what was shown last year. All of this is speculation but I can't get excited about McCoy and Hunter, but I can about Mason and Allen. Just my 2 cents
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
this one is a bit closer than the one posted above, 12 team ppr fpc dynasty just tonight
team a gets MCcoy, D Adams 2016 4th
team b gets Tre Mason, K Allen and a 2016 3rd
team a gets MCcoy, D Adams 2016 4th
team b gets Tre Mason, K Allen and a 2016 3rd
One More Rep
Footballguy
JackReacher
Footballguy
Don't love it. Turbin will be dropped in many FFPC dynasties and Rodgers >> Brees at this point
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I don't think Turbin and a one round bump bridges the gap in value between Rodgers and Brees, personally.
ZWK
Footballguy
Rodgers. Not close.
McCoy. I'd take Adams over Allen straight up, so it's not close.
Ryan, unless there's funny stuff with the contracts. WRs are on the same tier, and the Ryan-Bridgewater gap is pretty big in a superflex.
Brown. And 1760 yards from scrimmage is a decent estimate of the gap between the two sides over the rest of their careers.
McCoy. Judging by the other responses, it's time for me to put Mason on the block.
Lynch. Close call.
Turbin. Meh.
Anderson, Cobb (PPR kills Morris's value), and 2.10+ (unless roster space is tight). These are all pretty close.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Terrible. You just gave up around 4 years of stud QB play for..................basically nothing
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FWIW, I don't think the Bengals will keep Gresham. There were some articles saying they might, but it was all based off of a quote by Hue Jackson.
He was specifically asked if there was still a place for Gresham on the team (or similar wording) and he replied in the affirmative. What else is he going to say? Really think both parties will move on but the Bengals are going to draft or sign a blocking TE to take his place.
Denver724
Footballguy
Well, with the news breaking this morning that the Hawks want Lynch for years to come (and willing to pay him $10 million next year) I think this is a steal for 1.08. And I feel pretty bad for all those Michael owners. Not sure if he will ever start in a Hawks uniform. Interesting how high people were on him last year and he hasn't seen the field much.
Seems like way too little...may as well keep him if you get a pick around where you drafted him12 team PPR
Jerrick Mckinnon (if I spelled that right)
for
pick 28
Last edited by a moderator:
Decent late 2nds for Murray. I would likely roll the dice with Murray for that price
McCoy side still for me
Lynch if I am a competitor if not that is a great exit price
Lots of nice upside players in that 1st deal. If I thought I could flip CJ/Ball I would take that side if not I would keep Gurley/Gordon. I am not nearly as convinced Moncrief is the next big thing as some and Eifert is a guy I would buy but not for that pick
Cobb
Latimer - Not sure I see 2 late 2nds and a 3rd as an overpay for Latimer at all...I wouldn't sell him for that
Denver724
Footballguy
I would probably lean towards Watkins knowing a RB's shelf life is limited. Watkins is just a better long-term player.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I don't disagree with your optimism on Teddy, but in Superflex you have to weigh the risk of "what if he doesn't." Plus the value of 2.9 is increased a bit. We know what Ryan is and can feel pretty confident he'll remain that for 6+ years, at least for the duration of the 3 yr contract. The fact that the contracts are limited to 3 yrs really tips the deck to Ryan's side, I think.Teddy may never outperform Ryan, and there's some chance he'll bust, meaning you have to pay a lot to replace him while Ryan is still chugging. The only plus for Teddy is if he ascends quickly to Ryan's statlevel, his market value will be skyhigh. But in such a case you're not trading him anyway unless you have crazy depth.
Agree.
Easily the Ryan Alshon side in a 3 year window.
I am not that high on Bridgewater so even if this wasn't a 3 year contract league I would take the Ryan/Alshon side
One More Rep
Footballguy
Watkins for memaxhyde said:
Zyphros
Footballguy
10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex
Team A traded: Michael Floyd, Brian Quick, Louis Riddick, 4.04
Team B traded: Nick Foles, Latavius Murray
Team A is finishing a rebuild with Evans, OBJ, Matthews, Blackmon, Charles Johnson as the key WR's. Bad QB situation in Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Tom Savage, Logan Thomas, EJ Manuel. Along with 2 top4 1sts and 1.07. Team B is usually a solid contender.
Team A traded: Michael Floyd, Brian Quick, Louis Riddick, 4.04
Team B traded: Nick Foles, Latavius Murray
Team A is finishing a rebuild with Evans, OBJ, Matthews, Blackmon, Charles Johnson as the key WR's. Bad QB situation in Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Tom Savage, Logan Thomas, EJ Manuel. Along with 2 top4 1sts and 1.07. Team B is usually a solid contender.
2QB I might go with Foles.
I was never high on Foles and I really like Floyd but seems like an overpay for Floyd on current market
hunter1
Footballguy
I'm no expert, John, but I think Team A is some sort of genius. You know, just off the top of my head...
FUBAR
Footballguy
missed the 3 year contract part.Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
I marked this down as a Todd owes me one next negotiationhunter1 said:I'm no expert, John, but I think Team A is some sort of genius. You know, just off the top of my head...
hunter1
Footballguy
Big man, that thing's dead even. Rest easy!I marked this down as a Todd owes me one next negotiationhunter1 said:I'm no expert, John, but I think Team A is some sort of genius. You know, just off the top of my head...
ghostguy123
Footballguy
pizzatyme
Footballguy
The one I'm in. Why do you ask?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
pizzatyme
Footballguy
You looking to join? There may be a opening. Or would you like to give your opinion of the trade?
Or are you just taking a poll?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Nevermind, found it. Fortunately it was the first one I looked at in the 500.
Why do I want to know? Because I don't trust your judgement at all saying that future 1st is likely in the 6-10 range, and it's a good thing I didn't.
That pick is NOT likely in the 6-10 range.
For some much better pespective on this deal, the 2016 1st is at least a 90% chance in the top 6, which is basically random anywhere from 1-6. It would be pretty much a miracle if that team makes the playoffs, even after picking up Marshall.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I would bet you basically any dollar amount you wanted that that team misses the playoffs if I actually thought there was a chance you would pay.
Must be your team.
The best RB in Sankey, next best is maybe Sjax?? Cj1k?? Richardson??, Best TE is Larry Donnell (backup TE isnt even rosterable), after Marshall and Vjax at WR there isn't barely anything.
Where do you get "likely 6-10 range"?
So Marshall got traded for an upgrade from pick 21 to pick 14, and a projected non-playoff 2016 1st.
I can definitely see the appeal of the high 2016 and pick upgrade here, especially given that guy is loaded at WR. Just not sure I could pull the trigger. In a rebuild, I take the pick (which means for that team trading for Marshall, I never would have done that deal since that team should be rebuilding, not selling to win now). Competing, tough call, can't even say for sure right now.
Last edited by a moderator:
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I'd take the picks. Marshall has earned my respect over the years but I think he's on the downhill slope of his career, and it looks slippery.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Thanks for the feedback. He certainly could be on the downside of his career. And while picks are awesome, there's also no guarantee that a 1.6 will pan out and especially this year or next. The 14th versus the 21st pick to me is marginal. Bottom line is, I felt it was a decent buy. I could certainly be wrong. I just hope to be as good as some here proclaim to be one day.
Thanks again for your input, seriously.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Marshall hasn't even turned 31 yet (but will soon in March). I think people keep writing WRs off earlier and earlier with each passing year on these boards. Obviously he's on the downhill slope, but elite level WRs can still play at a high level until they are 34-35. Marshall who's game isn't built on blazing speed, but rather size and strength should age well.
Roster composition would have a lot to do with how I judged that deal. I can see a contender paying that price.
