sweet deal for Ben if you needed a QBFFPC league:
Gave: 2016 third rounder, should be a late one if it even matters
Got: Ben Roethlisberger
Cutler and RG3 so upgrading the position was a goal.sweet deal for Ben if you needed a QBFFPC league:
Gave: 2016 third rounder, should be a late one if it even matters
Got: Ben Roethlisberger
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
Very interesting. I probably take hyde but it's close. bird in the hand vs bird in the bush.12 Team PPR
Team A gets: Arian Foster
Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
much rather have Hyde. Foster is near toast and unreliable although he scores when he playsVery interesting. I probably take hyde but it's close. bird in the hand vs bird in the bush.12 Team PPR
Team A gets: Arian Foster
Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
Hyde for me alsomuch rather have Hyde. Foster is near toast and unreliable although he scores when he playsVery interesting. I probably take hyde but it's close. bird in the hand vs bird in the bush.12 Team PPR
Team A gets: Arian Foster
Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
Very close but I would go Cooks.14 team PPR
Foles
Brandin Cooks
For
Romo
Alfred Morris
1.10
At first glance, Hyde, but after some more thought pretty even...12 Team PPR
Team A gets: Arian Foster
Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
Yeah I think it is pretty even too.At first glance, Hyde, but after some more thought pretty even...12 Team PPR
Team A gets: Arian Foster
Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
Disclaimer: I own Foster and Hyde each in two PPR leagues and own both in one of those league.
Yes, Foster has seen better days and doesn't have that many seasons left as a top back, and Hyde appears to be the successor to Gore - but has Hyde proven he can carry the load as a starter over the course of a season? I remember as a Gore owner drafting Anthony Dixon who looked pretty good in relief too.
In the one league that I don't own Foster I wouldn't trade Hyde for him straight up, but I would be rather uncomfortable turning down that deal.
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
Jordy must be available for an early 2016 2 then.Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
You can get more for Desean.12-team PPR
Desean Jackson
for
2.9 & 3.1
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for thatCalvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for thatCalvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
11 of 13 he was 9.3 or higher. The other 2 he was a decoy on limited snap counts. It's fun cherry picking arbitrary baselines.derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for thatCalvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
I would say I am down on Calvin more than most, but he is still elite, he just isn't the unquestioned best receiver in the league anymore. He has 2 or 3 elite season left and then probably a couple of good seasons after that.derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for thatCalvin for a future later 1st???? Really???I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original membersThat sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league foreverWithout high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
I don't see it. Maybe because I made the deal, but I don't see how its 'massive'. Maybe I'm missing something though. Would gladly move the 1.03 and spare parts for a top 5 dynasty RB.yeah that's a massive overpay.Quite the haul for Charles12 team PPR, 1.5 for TEs
Team A gets: Charles, Wheaton
Team B gets: 1.03, Vereen, Latimer, ASJ
Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.
He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
I had to give up something to get him. 1.03 had to be included (and I was fine with that b/c most likely that's Cooper, and I'm loaded at WR (Julio, Jordy, Cobb, Watkins, A-Rob, Fitz, etc). Needed a RB1 (was running out 2 of Miller, Vereen, Ivory and Spiller on a weekly basis). Of the 3 guys I traded, I probably sold low on Latimer. But none of those 3 are anything close to surefire type of players. Vereen is too inconsistent on a weekly basis, ASJ and Latimer are unproven right now. So basically I traded 1.03 and 3 2nds (or a late 1st depending on your viewpoint of Latimer).You could probably get a second rounder for any of those spare parts, maybe more or less depending on the market. that bundle, in ppr, was probably worth a first on its own. 1.3 for Charles is a reasonable price for an older stud back. 1.3 and another first is too much imo.
I was just going to leave this but the justification is thin.Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteYeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.
He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
agree, jackson side by a lotYou can get more for Desean.12-team PPR
Desean Jackson
for
2.9 & 3.1
The Calvin deal was straight robbery.In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
And yes - this whole thing started because I was discussing the trend towards devaluing aging players at a quicker and quicker rate - but these deals are more outliers than the norm in that league. There were basically two teams "competing" to shed their age a do a total rebuild.
The Calvin deal was a nice deal for me admittedly (but not nearly as egrecious as those that speak in nothing but hyperbole in every thread they post in want to make it out to be) - but the other two are really not even worth discussing.
The Blount deal was made before he ran all over Indy, and we all know how frustrating NE running backs can be and there's no guarantee that Blount is even in the mix in 2015 depending on how free agency and the draft go for NE. Roddy for a third was probably a little light, but he's no longer anything special and that owner won the league in 2013 and then got knoecked out of the playoffs this year with a really old roster and wants to tear his team down completely and "compete" for the no. 1 overall pick in 2016.
Agreed and no amount of spin can make it look otherwise.The Calvin deal was straight robbery.In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
And yes - this whole thing started because I was discussing the trend towards devaluing aging players at a quicker and quicker rate - but these deals are more outliers than the norm in that league. There were basically two teams "competing" to shed their age a do a total rebuild.
The Calvin deal was a nice deal for me admittedly (but not nearly as egrecious as those that speak in nothing but hyperbole in every thread they post in want to make it out to be) - but the other two are really not even worth discussing.
The Blount deal was made before he ran all over Indy, and we all know how frustrating NE running backs can be and there's no guarantee that Blount is even in the mix in 2015 depending on how free agency and the draft go for NE. Roddy for a third was probably a little light, but he's no longer anything special and that owner won the league in 2013 and then got knoecked out of the playoffs this year with a really old roster and wants to tear his team down completely and "compete" for the no. 1 overall pick in 2016.
YES!!! I finally won a trade in the SP's eyes! LOLScooby said:agree, jackson side by a lotstronger88 said:You can get more for Desean.pizzatyme said:12-team PPR
Desean Jackson
for
2.9 & 3.1
You left one of the guys out. I think his name was Kelvin?? Maybe Calvin??Dr. Octopus said:Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.ghostguy123 said:The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.loose circuits said:derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteLBH said:Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.
He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
EvansA few FFPC deals here recently
Mike Evans
Philip Rivers
pick 18
for
Pick 5
Pick 8
Isaiah Crowell
Cordarelle Patterson
Jason Witten
for
Crabtree
Sproles
Brees
for
Pick 10
Stills
These are all fair. The only one I have any real preference on though is the Crab/Sproles side. Witten is so done.A few FFPC deals here recently
Mike Evans
Philip Rivers
pick 18
for
Pick 5
Pick 8
Isaiah Crowell
Cordarelle Patterson
Jason Witten
for
Crabtree
Sproles
Brees
for
Pick 10
Stills
I guess if you value Crowell highly that is a legit offer. If I could flip Crowell for another mid 1st I might take that sideA few FFPC deals here recently
Mike Evans
Philip Rivers
pick 18
for
Pick 5
Pick 8
Isaiah Crowell
Cordarelle Patterson
Jason Witten
for
Crabtree
Sproles
Brees
for
Pick 10
Stills
Ummm...you talk so much ####, you forget what you say I guess.You left one of the guys out. I think his name was Kelvin?? Maybe Calvin??Dr. Octopus said:Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.ghostguy123 said:The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.loose circuits said:derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer eliteLBH said:Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.
He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
Your reading comprehension and interpretation skills aren't very good, so I won't bother to address this any further.Wait, so now people are competing to rebuild, and will pis away CALVIN JOHNSON to get it done?? You just made the league sound less competitive than I originally thought, yeesh.
Pretty fair for a rebuild imo12 Team non PPR Superflex
Watkins
Ebron
G.Hodges(LB Minn)
For
JGraham
J Brown (WR Ariz)
I wish I could buy Allen for that10 Team Non PPR Superflex
K Allen
For
D Freeman
J Rodgers
36th overall