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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
:yawn:

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
 
12 Team PPR

Team A gets: Arian Foster

Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
At first glance, Hyde, but after some more thought pretty even...

Disclaimer: I own Foster and Hyde each in two PPR leagues and own both in one of those league.

Yes, Foster has seen better days and doesn't have that many seasons left as a top back, and Hyde appears to be the successor to Gore - but has Hyde proven he can carry the load as a starter over the course of a season? I remember as a Gore owner drafting Anthony Dixon who looked pretty good in relief too.

In the one league that I don't own Foster I wouldn't trade Hyde for him straight up, but I would be rather uncomfortable turning down that deal.

 
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12 Team PPR

Team A gets: Arian Foster

Team B gets: Carlos Hyde
At first glance, Hyde, but after some more thought pretty even...

Disclaimer: I own Foster and Hyde each in two PPR leagues and own both in one of those league.

Yes, Foster has seen better days and doesn't have that many seasons left as a top back, and Hyde appears to be the successor to Gore - but has Hyde proven he can carry the load as a starter over the course of a season? I remember as a Gore owner drafting Anthony Dixon who looked pretty good in relief too.

In the one league that I don't own Foster I wouldn't trade Hyde for him straight up, but I would be rather uncomfortable turning down that deal.
Yeah I think it is pretty even too.

I would take Hyde because I think he is easier to trade for value than Foster. I would be trying to flip him quickly though to someone that is more of a fan

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
Jordy must be available for an early 2016 2 then.

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
11 of 13 he was 9.3 or higher. The other 2 he was a decoy on limited snap counts. It's fun cherry picking arbitrary baselines.

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
:yawn:

 
Without high-jacking this thread too much, as some examples I was able to get Blount for a late 4th, Roddy White for a mid/late third and Calvin Johnson, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates for my 2016 draft (rounds 1-5, which should be in later part of the round), Jordan Reed and Terrence West. I still have enough youth on that team that it's not a total sell-out, but I have some real fire-power to compete this year as well.
That sounds like a total newbie league, and if it's not, and those guys have been in the league a while, should be pretty easy to rule that league forever
I am in that league and you couldn't be farther from the truth. Nice thing about a league where teams are building for down the road is you don't worry about turnover. Almost had all original members
Calvin for a future later 1st???? Really???
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
I would say I am down on Calvin more than most, but he is still elite, he just isn't the unquestioned best receiver in the league anymore. He has 2 or 3 elite season left and then probably a couple of good seasons after that.

 
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.

That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.

He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.

 
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You could probably get a second rounder for any of those spare parts, maybe more or less depending on the market. that bundle, in ppr, was probably worth a first on its own. 1.3 for Charles is a reasonable price for an older stud back. 1.3 and another first is too much imo.

 
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.

That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.

He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.

 
You could probably get a second rounder for any of those spare parts, maybe more or less depending on the market. that bundle, in ppr, was probably worth a first on its own. 1.3 for Charles is a reasonable price for an older stud back. 1.3 and another first is too much imo.
I had to give up something to get him. 1.03 had to be included (and I was fine with that b/c most likely that's Cooper, and I'm loaded at WR (Julio, Jordy, Cobb, Watkins, A-Rob, Fitz, etc). Needed a RB1 (was running out 2 of Miller, Vereen, Ivory and Spiller on a weekly basis). Of the 3 guys I traded, I probably sold low on Latimer. But none of those 3 are anything close to surefire type of players. Vereen is too inconsistent on a weekly basis, ASJ and Latimer are unproven right now. So basically I traded 1.03 and 3 2nds (or a late 1st depending on your viewpoint of Latimer).

I also expect Charles to have at least 3 elite or near elite seasons left - he will play this year at 28, and he's never been abused like other RBs have been.

 
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.

That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.

He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.
I was just going to leave this but the justification is thin.

Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.

So Calvin for 1,4,5,Reed,West,Carr,Paul....essentially a late 1st, 2 2nds, 3 4ths and a 5th. Not sure you could get Brandon Marshall in my leagues for that and usuaally Calvin sells for slightly more.

Anyway well done

 
Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.

And yes - this whole thing started because I was discussing the trend towards devaluing aging players at a quicker and quicker rate - but these deals are more outliers than the norm in that league. There were basically two teams "competing" to shed their age a do a total rebuild.

The Calvin deal was a nice deal for me admittedly (but not nearly as egrecious as those that speak in nothing but hyperbole in every thread they post in want to make it out to be) - but the other two are really not even worth discussing.

The Blount deal was made before he ran all over Indy, and we all know how frustrating NE running backs can be and there's no guarantee that Blount is even in the mix in 2015 depending on how free agency and the draft go for NE. Roddy for a third was probably a little light, but he's no longer anything special and that owner won the league in 2013 and then got knoecked out of the playoffs this year with a really old roster and wants to tear his team down completely and "compete" for the no. 1 overall pick in 2016.

 
Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.

And yes - this whole thing started because I was discussing the trend towards devaluing aging players at a quicker and quicker rate - but these deals are more outliers than the norm in that league. There were basically two teams "competing" to shed their age a do a total rebuild.

The Calvin deal was a nice deal for me admittedly (but not nearly as egrecious as those that speak in nothing but hyperbole in every thread they post in want to make it out to be) - but the other two are really not even worth discussing.

The Blount deal was made before he ran all over Indy, and we all know how frustrating NE running backs can be and there's no guarantee that Blount is even in the mix in 2015 depending on how free agency and the draft go for NE. Roddy for a third was probably a little light, but he's no longer anything special and that owner won the league in 2013 and then got knoecked out of the playoffs this year with a really old roster and wants to tear his team down completely and "compete" for the no. 1 overall pick in 2016.
The Calvin deal was straight robbery.

 
Rivers is worth a late 2 and Gates a late 3 judging by the age devaluation in that league.
In a 12 team start 1QB league, while Rivers may actually be worth a late second, it would probably be tough to even get that for him. Frankly I didn't even really want him, but he was thrown into the deal so the other guy could have Carr.

And yes - this whole thing started because I was discussing the trend towards devaluing aging players at a quicker and quicker rate - but these deals are more outliers than the norm in that league. There were basically two teams "competing" to shed their age a do a total rebuild.

The Calvin deal was a nice deal for me admittedly (but not nearly as egrecious as those that speak in nothing but hyperbole in every thread they post in want to make it out to be) - but the other two are really not even worth discussing.

The Blount deal was made before he ran all over Indy, and we all know how frustrating NE running backs can be and there's no guarantee that Blount is even in the mix in 2015 depending on how free agency and the draft go for NE. Roddy for a third was probably a little light, but he's no longer anything special and that owner won the league in 2013 and then got knoecked out of the playoffs this year with a really old roster and wants to tear his team down completely and "compete" for the no. 1 overall pick in 2016.
The Calvin deal was straight robbery.
Agreed and no amount of spin can make it look otherwise.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
ghostguy123 said:
loose circuits said:
LBH said:
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.

That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.

He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.
You left one of the guys out. I think his name was Kelvin?? Maybe Calvin??

 
Wait, so now people are competing to rebuild, and will pis away CALVIN JOHNSON to get it done?? You just made the league sound less competitive than I originally thought, yeesh.

 
A few FFPC deals here recently

Mike Evans

Philip Rivers

pick 18

for

Pick 5

Pick 8

Isaiah Crowell

Cordarelle Patterson

Jason Witten

for

Crabtree

Sproles

Brees

for

Pick 10

Stills

 
A few FFPC deals here recently

Mike Evans

Philip Rivers

pick 18

for

Pick 5

Pick 8

Isaiah Crowell

Cordarelle Patterson

Jason Witten

for

Crabtree

Sproles

Brees

for

Pick 10

Stills
These are all fair. The only one I have any real preference on though is the Crab/Sproles side. Witten is so done.

ETA: I also prefer Brees to 1.10/Stills, could be a huge move if Brees side is contending next couple years.

 
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A few FFPC deals here recently

Mike Evans

Philip Rivers

pick 18

for

Pick 5

Pick 8

Isaiah Crowell

Cordarelle Patterson

Jason Witten

for

Crabtree

Sproles

Brees

for

Pick 10

Stills
I guess if you value Crowell highly that is a legit offer. If I could flip Crowell for another mid 1st I might take that side

Witten

Stills/pick

 
On the earlier one I will take

Evans side

Witten- crabtree blows IMO no matter where he lands, rather take a year or 2 of 1.5 PPR from Witten

Brees side EASILY if I need a QB and am competing. One of the easier trades to make assuming those two things. That's a nice deal for both teams since the guy dealing Brees has Luck.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
ghostguy123 said:
loose circuits said:
LBH said:
Yeah that's crazy. I don't play in that league but I play against almost all of its members in other dynasty's. Curious to know who gave up Calvin for that
derek Carr, Jordan reed, TWest, N. Paul were all included with picks5 of Calvins 13 games were under 11 pts and he looks like he's lost a step. Still good, but no longer elite
The Jedi mind trick clearly worked on the guy in that league, but sorry, it isn't working here.

That looks like a relatively normal deal for the other guy if you were to take Calvin out completely.

He sold super ultra mega low, to the point of giving Calvin away. The deal belongs in the worst offers thread, not this one.
Rivers and Gates (at 35 years old) are worth a 1,2,3,4 and 5 pick plus J. Reed, West and Carr? You outdo yourself with each post.
You left one of the guys out. I think his name was Kelvin?? Maybe Calvin??
Ummm...you talk so much ####, you forget what you say I guess.

 
Wait, so now people are competing to rebuild, and will pis away CALVIN JOHNSON to get it done?? You just made the league sound less competitive than I originally thought, yeesh.
Your reading comprehension and interpretation skills aren't very good, so I won't bother to address this any further.

Carry on with the "expert" analysis that you litter this thread with.

 
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