Cooks easily.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
Evans12 team PPR dynasty (1.25 for TE), large rosters. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE)
Mike Evans
for
Carlos Hyde
Dwayne Allen
pick 7
2016 2nd
Cooks easily.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
Evans12 team PPR dynasty (1.25 for TE), large rosters. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE)
Mike Evans
for
Carlos Hyde
Dwayne Allen
pick 7
2016 2nd
Good analysis. Few things though. I never said it wasn't a fair trade. I said that I thought the guy was overrating spiller in the context of it being an overpay for Watkins. I think it's pretty a close trade but I just happen to prefer the Watkins side. Watkins was banged up the entire year. He toughed through broken ribs, a groin and a hip injury that eventually led to surgery. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that these injuries limited him and he just missed 70/1000. His stats were very much comparable to Evans (outside of the TDs). He goes from being the only threat to one of several which should open things up for him. You see McCoy and Harvin as a negative but I see them as a positive. Woods is a non-factor IMO. The QB situation is unsettling but he should see increased targets (if healthy) and catch rate. The thing most concerning to me above all was his consistency on the injury report.I guess the bar for "excellent" depends on the eye of the beholder. 9 games with single digit fantasy points in ppr. 11 games with three or fewer catches. this is the inconsistency people were worried about in Buffalo. And his situation may actually be worse. Orton had 3000 yards in 12 games. Ej Manuel doesn't have 3000 yards yet in his career. With Rex Ryan building the team around LeSean mccoy and the defense, and competition for targets from Percy and woods and mccoy, they're not going to force feed him targets.I don't have any of these receivers rated as highly as Watkins and prefer the positional longevity at WR over RB (even one as talented as Gurley). Watkins had an excellent rookie year and I saw nothing that would lead me to believe he's not the real deal. His situation is no worse than last year.Watkins for 1.1 is pretty even. I'd probably rather have 1.1 and landing Gurley or a receiver somewhere better than buffalo. It doesn't matter how you value spiller, he's on the wrong side of the deal.I think you are overrating Spiller.Wow. I like Watkins, probably more than most, but I think that's an overpay to land him (unless he gets a QB or out of Buffalo)
I think he is an elite talent and a good ff option but I think his chance to emerge is no better than the stud wrs from this year's class, and I'd prefer the guy who might up in a stable situation. you might disagree but that's the sign of a fair trade - reasonable people would take either side of it.
And that's really the point. if they're trading two equal commodities, then the guy getting the extra stuff wins the trade. any time you can add talent to your team without sacrificing anything, you should do it.
So someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
I thought so too, but I will happily take him at that price hahaSo someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
we call those bad owners. Makes zero senseSo someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
Nothing beats this though. Back in january team A traded his 2016 1st for Justin Blackmon.I thought so too, but I will happily take him at that price hahaSo someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
haha wow thats ridiculousNothing beats this though. Back in january team A traded his 2016 1st for Justin Blackmon.I thought so too, but I will happily take him at that price hahaSo someone drafted Cooks somewhere between 1.04 and 1.08 last season, watched him lead all rookies in receptions before he got hurt, saw NO trade away their top target and talk up Cooks, and then they sell him for a loss? Strange.12 team .5 PPR
Gave:
1.11
2.08
Got:
Brandin Cooks
A few days ago team A traded Blackmon for a 6th rounder.
At least the guy who traded Cooks away allowed something to actually happen before doing something silly, but this one takes the cake.
1.116 team 1qb/1wr/1rb/1te/4flex .5ppr.
Gave 1.11, 1.12, Ingram.
Got 1.1
I'm trying to make a push this year, he's in rebuild mode. Not sure who I'll take though
WittenCouple small ones that will gain absolutely 0 interest in this thread ha.
10 team .5ppr 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1Flex
Team A traded: Jason Witten, 2016 4th
Team B traded: 2.10
Team C traded: Cecil Shorts
Team D traded: 4.04
Evans easily12 team PPR dynasty (1.25 for TE), large rosters. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 flex (RB/WR/TE)
Mike Evans
for
Carlos Hyde
Dwayne Allen
pick 7
2016 2nd
1.0116 team 1qb/1wr/1rb/1te/4flex .5ppr.
Gave 1.11, 1.12, Ingram.
Got 1.1
I'm trying to make a push this year, he's in rebuild mode. Not sure who I'll take though
I offered Charles and a 2nd for the 1.2 and was turned down.12 team PPR.
Team A gives 1.02
Team B gives J.Charles
woofMike Evans for the 1.01 which will be Gurley. Non ppr league.
Gio12 tm, 0.5 ppr, short benches, yardage and big play bonuses, one of the WR is a WR/TE so you can start 2 TE
Julius for Gio
Players12 team ppr, start 1 or 2 rbs, 3 or 4 wrs.
Crabtree and vereen for 1.11 and 2.11
Picks and not close for me.Players12 team ppr, start 1 or 2 rbs, 3 or 4 wrs.
Crabtree and vereen for 1.11 and 2.11
Non PPR league changes the dynamics of this one though. It makes the RBs more valuable, however this also might increase Evans in the WR ranking just a tad because he is a better bet for yards and TDs than high volume catches.woofMike Evans for the 1.01 which will be Gurley. Non ppr league.
evans is nearly untouchable to me. would take the farm for me to even think about it.
ThisPicks and not close for me.Players12 team ppr, start 1 or 2 rbs, 3 or 4 wrs.
Crabtree and vereen for 1.11 and 2.11
Picks12 team ppr, start 1 or 2 rbs, 3 or 4 wrs.
Crabtree and vereen for 1.11 and 2.11
EvansMike Evans for the 1.01 which will be Gurley. Non ppr league.
Gio12 tm, 0.5 ppr, short benches, yardage and big play bonuses, one of the WR is a WR/TE so you can start 2 TE
Julius for Gio
Top 5 not crazy at all because once you get past the first couple there is a lot of question marks and age.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
I think the flash of potential last year, combined with the potential to be a bellcow is enticing to fantasy owners. Helu shouldnt eat into his carries really.People fixated on LMurray must keep this on speed dial.ARob for me. I don't really get the Murray love to be honest.Latavius MurrayCharles JohnsonforAllen RobinsonAnd averaged 5.2 YPC last year.Dates: 03/20/13
Height: 6025
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.56
10 Yrd Dash: 1.48
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 36
Broad Jump: 10'04"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.36
3-Cone Drill: 6.81
Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Uhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Thats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Thats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Pedigree for me. Can't take an undrafted free agent that high after one season.Thats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Tate/BennettTeam A gets Golden Tate, Martellus Benenett
Team B gets Martavius Bryant, Richard Rodgers and pick 1.10
I see the argument for Gurley, and yes, I agree that Gordon as a top-5 dynasty RB is a stretch. My personal top-5 would be Bell, Lacy, McCoy, Charles, and Murray in some order.Thats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
I guess if Gurley is just a random RB prospect in a relatively unknown situation that is accurate. If that is the conclusion you have come to watching him I wouldn't argue with you about it. Definitely a legit stance in today's NFL/fantasy considering the overall devaluation of the position and difficulty finding reliable 3 down RB'sThats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Benjamin easily...unless it is a superflex league then it is pretty closeBenjamin
rg3
for
moncrief
tannehill
No, I didn't mean to post this in the worst trade you've been offered thread
Light for Benjamin but I am not super high on him. I would have asked for more if I had Benjamin but I am okay with the returnBenjamin
rg3
for
moncrief
tannehill
No, I didn't mean to post this in the worst trade you've been offered thread
Well, its possible theyre idiots. Or its possible something just clicked with him as he got reps and started to 'get it'. Its also possible he was a product of a very scary offensive unit. At any rate, what he accomplished in the timeframe he accomplished it in is pretty solid.I see the argument for Gurley, and yes, I agree that Gordon as a top-5 dynasty RB is a stretch. My personal top-5 would be Bell, Lacy, McCoy, Charles, and Murray in some order.Re: Anderson, his value is purely situational. Putting him in the top-5 is really, really bad. As you said, though, that's just an opinion. Maybe Anderson is the next great RB talent and Denver coaches are the real idiots for not playing him until everyone else was hurt.Thats fine. But wouldnt you think that giving two rookies, who at this point arent on a team and have relatively unknown situations, the title of top 5 dyno back is a little negligent?Or is that some sort of second level strategy that us unexperienced guys dont understand?I would imagine that the vast majority of experienced dynasty owners would agree as well. Anderson as a top-5 dynasty RB is a pretty thin limb to go out on.I share his opinion...no way CJA is a top 5 dynasty RB in my list. He may be a top 5 RB this yearThats like, your opinion, manUhh... no.Anderson should maybe be in there as well.Think he's right there for #2 already but I'm not a huge Lacy fan. If you're looking out past this year, some combo of Bell, Lacy, Hill, Gurley and Gordon are the top 5 imo.Generic question, but is it crazy to rank Gurley as a top 5 dynasty back as soon as Friday? I feel like with a lot of the top guys aging or having a lot of work, if Gurley is the real deal he's gonna be the next big thing for fantasy.
Benjamin
rg3
for
moncrief
tannehill
No, I didn't mean to post this in the worst trade you've been offered thread
Some trades I did over the weekend in one league.
Watkins, 2.05 for Evans, 3.10
LMurray for Sankey, 2.10
Kelvin, RG3 for Moncrief, Tannehill
AKA
Watkins, KB, LMurray, RG3, 2.05 for Evans, Moncrief, Sankey, Tannehill, 2.10, 3.10