thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Was the pick OTC and who did you takeI will take what you gaveFFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Why? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for 1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for 1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
ok, at first i though you had lost your mind.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
If it was (2) current 2nds and (2) future late 2nd's makes a lot more sense.
One More Rep
Footballguy
I would take the 1.9 for all 2nd's alsook, at first i though you had lost your mind.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
If it was (2) current 2nds and (2) future late 2nd's makes a lot more sense.
FUBAR
Footballguy
yeah, it's deeper than most leagues (not as deep as some) which raises the value of lesser, very good players. But, I'll take the 1.01 fairly easily.
cstu
Footballguy
3 late 2nds to move up 7 spots is excessive in a normal league but in that one with 14 keeper spots (I believe) it's a good trade.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Yes, this is correct. 14 keepers.3 late 2nds to move up 7 spots is excessive in a normal league but in that one with 14 keeper spots (I believe) it's a good trade.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
What I find funny is you can hear most rail on the 2nd rounders being garbage and finding a diamond in the rough, but as soon as I packaged these same 2nd rounders, people act like I sold my mother. You should see what the league's "experts" are saying.
FUBAR
Footballguy
is there a less reliable evaluator of trades than other owners?Yes, this is correct. 14 keepers.3 late 2nds to move up 7 spots is excessive in a normal league but in that one with 14 keeper spots (I believe) it's a good trade.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
What I find funny is you can hear most rail on the 2nd rounders being garbage and finding a diamond in the rough, but as soon as I packaged these same 2nd rounders, people act like I sold my mother. You should see what the league's "experts" are saying.
That said, it does look like you overpaid slightly but if the player you want was there at 1.09, it's a price we should be willing to pay.
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Consolidation = winning with 14 man rosters IMO. 2nds would seem to be WAY less valuable in that format. I'd guess that a bunch of last year's 2nd round rooks hit the waiver wire probably every year.
cstu
Footballguy
Exactly. The 2.12 and the two 2016 2nds maybe get you into the early-mid 2nd this year in that league because they aren't worth much. I've looked back at the odds of hitting on a late 2nd and it's about 10% - and that's over the long-term, not a one year return you would need to keep the player on a 14 team roster.
FUBAR
Footballguy
IDP or non? that's still 168 players retained each year. Assuming non IDP, that gives room for 24 QB, 50 RB, 50 WR, 24 TE, 20 K/D
Last year's 2nd round picks likely included Ebron, Matthews, Bryant, Hill, Bridgewater, and a few others with potential. Highly doubt those guys would be dropped.
Can certainly understand Pizza's move. But I just wonder what you can get in-season for next year's 2nds.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
My view is I'm very happy with the top 10 on my board. So, while I wasn't under the gun and on the clock, I am very happy with the player I'll get at 1.9 versus 2.4.is there a less reliable evaluator of trades than other owners?Yes, this is correct. 14 keepers.3 late 2nds to move up 7 spots is excessive in a normal league but in that one with 14 keeper spots (I believe) it's a good trade.Correction! The 2 2016 picks are mid-late 2nd roundersWhy? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
What I find funny is you can hear most rail on the 2nd rounders being garbage and finding a diamond in the rough, but as soon as I packaged these same 2nd rounders, people act like I sold my mother. You should see what the league's "experts" are saying.
That said, it does look like you overpaid slightly but if the player you want was there at 1.09, it's a price we should be willing to pay.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
In many cases I'd agree with your sentiment. However, this particular league there are a few "experts" who aren't giving up players for picks. If there were more trades happening, I could see maybe holding on to these picks to hope they increase in value.
FUBAR
Footballguy
makes sense. it's always interesting to see the differences in leagues. In most of mine, there's at least a few rebuilding each year (some seem to be in a never-ending loop of building) who are all too eager to give up a productive 30+ year old for 2nds.
Milwaukees_best
Footballguy
Team A gets :
CJ Anderson
Montee Ball
Sammy Watkins
1.09
3.12
Team B gets:
1.3
1.4
1.6
1.11
CJ Anderson
Montee Ball
Sammy Watkins
1.09
3.12
Team B gets:
1.3
1.4
1.6
1.11
One More Rep
Footballguy
10-team, yardage-heavy, non-PPR. QB-heavy scoring. Start 1/2/3/1, no flex.
Team A gets: 1.02, T.Y. Hilton, Ben Roethlisberger
Team B gets: Antonio Brown, Jerick McKinnon
Team A gets: 1.02, T.Y. Hilton, Ben Roethlisberger
Team B gets: Antonio Brown, Jerick McKinnon
matttyl
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Team A made this series of trades:
Gave: Cooks => Got: 1.4
Gave: 1.4, Marshall, Olsen => Got: 1.2 (took Gurley), Britt
Gave: Gurley => Got: Kevin White, M. Wilson, H.Miller
Total result of trades:
Gave: Cooks, Marshall, Olsen => Got: Kevin White, M. Wilson, H.Miller, Britt
Gave: Cooks => Got: 1.4
Gave: 1.4, Marshall, Olsen => Got: 1.2 (took Gurley), Britt
Gave: Gurley => Got: Kevin White, M. Wilson, H.Miller
Total result of trades:
Gave: Cooks, Marshall, Olsen => Got: Kevin White, M. Wilson, H.Miller, Britt
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jeaton6
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Wasn't me. Just wondering what people thought because it was a strange series of trades.
I was the one who got Cooks and gave the 1.4.
I thought that if someone with the 1.4 wanted White they could have traded up to 1.3 directly instead of up to 1.2 and then down to 1.3.
I was the one who got Cooks and gave the 1.4.
I thought that if someone with the 1.4 wanted White they could have traded up to 1.3 directly instead of up to 1.2 and then down to 1.3.
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One More Rep
Footballguy
blardorg
Footballguy
I think White and Cooks could be a wash, though I know some people are really high on one or the other. The rest of the pieces are not even close to even, though. Marshall + Olsen >>> Wilson, Miller, and Britt.
Jrodicus
Footballguy
I was the original owner of 1.02.
The owner of the 1.01 also was the owner of 1.03 and was adamant that he was taking Gurley 1.01. While I wasn't sure if he was being honest or playing games, I was going to take Cooper at 1.02 or Gurley if he fell to me. To me, Gurley and Copper are the clear-cut top 2 players with Gordon and White being 3 and 4.
Guy who moved up from 1.04 made me an offer I couldn't refuse. He's also a Bears fan.
My guess is that 1.01 owner thought that if he took Cooper 1st (which he did), that 1.02 pick would end up being White and that he would be able to take Gurley 1.03. When Gurley went 1.02, he took White with 1.03 as trade bait to get Gurley.
But, had Gurley gone 1.01, White was going to be taken at 1.02. After I made the trade, that owner told me he moved up to take White. Maybe he was blowing smoke, but I doubt it. So, if the guy who had 1.01 took Gurley, like he told me and the other owner originally, he still would've gotten Cooper at the 1.03.
In the end, the top 3 players went to the guys who were going to get them anyway, just in a different order, and the guy at 1.01 gave up a couple meh players that he didn't have to but doesn't need anyway.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah that trade belongs in the worst offer threat, not a completed trades thread.Why? Unless you got one of the top 4 guys that's insane to give (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds for 1.09FFPC 12 team
Gave 2.4, 2.12, 2 projected mid to late 2016 1sts (both were playoff teams last year)
Received 1.9
Flame away.
edit....just saw it was two projected late 2016 2nds.
At least this makes sense in the FFPC. Maybe 2-3 2nd rounders dont end up on waivers at some point during the year.
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I'd go the other direction on the first comparison, but not enough to change the overall valuation. Would prefer the picks.
Generally agree with this. There is 1 player in most FFPC drafts that has a decent chance of falling to 2.4 that I think could make this go the other way, but not a slam dunk. The late 2nds are expendable.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I'll take Bbit can see it both ways
Heep
Footballguy
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
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One More Rep
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Run It Up
Footballguy
12 Team, deep roster, TE premium PPR, inconsequential IDPs
Team A Sends: Tre Mason
Team B Sends: David Johnson
Some players slipped in the draft so I ended up with a few guys I wasn't expecting to land, felt like I was overpaying but David Johnson was a guy I entered this draft hoping to land.
Team A Sends: Tre Mason
Team B Sends: David Johnson
Some players slipped in the draft so I ended up with a few guys I wasn't expecting to land, felt like I was overpaying but David Johnson was a guy I entered this draft hoping to land.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Uncle Grandpa
Footballguy
16-team PPR, IDP QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 DE, 3 LB, 3 DB.
1.02, 2.01, 2016 1st
for
OBJ and 2016 4th.
Gurley was taken at 1.01
1.02, 2.01, 2016 1st
for
OBJ and 2016 4th.
Gurley was taken at 1.01
Hoot McGoot
Footballguy
12 team PPR startup; 1QB, 2-4 WR, 2-4 RB, 1-2 TE
Team A gives: 1.11, 3.02
Team B gives: McKinnon, 4.04
Team A gives: 1.11, 3.02
Team B gives: McKinnon, 4.04
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
12 team PPR. Pretty standard format other than extremely flexible lineups.
Gave:
DeAndre Smelter
Dion Sims
Got:
Phillip Rivers
He's got plenty of QB's, I've only got Palmer. His only TE is Jordan Cameron. He had been trying to trade for the pick I used on Smelter, so I think he was his target (4.02)
Gave:
DeAndre Smelter
Dion Sims
Got:
Phillip Rivers
He's got plenty of QB's, I've only got Palmer. His only TE is Jordan Cameron. He had been trying to trade for the pick I used on Smelter, so I think he was his target (4.02)
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loose circuits
Footballguy
noce deal for you, I wouldn't trade rivers for that regardless of my depth at qb. Would wait until a contender needed a qb
