Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
- Start date
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Thanks, I almost pulled the trigger on just Gio for the 1.06 but felt I could get a bit more. And I did. Wallace is a pretty big upgrade over Carter at this point.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
Team A Brady, Edelman
Team B Tannehill, Wallace, 4.1
(ffpc, ppr)
Team B Tannehill, Wallace, 4.1
(ffpc, ppr)
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
Not if B is competing for a championship. Brady > Tannehill (at least for a year or 2 rental for a championship run) and Edelman > Wallace/4.01 especially PPR.This is a horrible trade for team B!!! Horrible!!!
I would rather have Tannehill in a vacuum but some context could really sort out opinions here
Even trade if you ask me but I'd lean the Brady/Edelman side due to the consistency Edelman provides vs the more up and down Wallace.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
bostonfred said:
The demise of DT as a #1WR is being greatly exaggerated in the community.
Louche
Footballguy
Last season Tannehill outscored Brady though so I don't think you can say that Brady is the win now play over Tannehill. Brady was a little bit ahead in passing TDs, but Tannehill evened that out with some 300 more rushing yds. I'd take Tannehill pretty comfortably over Brady in dynasty. In the FEB DLF mock Tannehill averaged out at 82 overall and Brady at 156 across the six startups they mocked.Not if B is competing for a championship. Brady > Tannehill (at least for a year or 2 rental for a championship run) and Edelman > Wallace/4.01 especially PPR.This is a horrible trade for team B!!! Horrible!!!
I would rather have Tannehill in a vacuum but some context could really sort out opinions here
But Edelman is definitely more valuable than Wallace at this point in time, especially with the playoff run fresh in mind, so all in all I'd say the trade is very fair. If this is non-idp the 4.01 holds very little value. The unknown factor is Wallace and where he ends up playing next season.
Last edited by a moderator:
bostonfred
Footballguy
I think he'll be startable. Just not elite.bostonfred said:
One More Rep
Footballguy
Agreed. He is a buy for mebostonfred said:
That's not really accurate. Tannehill passed him week 17 when Brady barely played, which is why fantasy leagues don't play in week 17. After week 16 Brady had Tannehill beat by about 10 points. So close enough to say the difference between them is splitting hairs but Tannehill did not outscore him in this fantasy league.Last season Tannehill outscored Brady though so I don't think you can say that Brady is the win now play over Tannehill. Brady was a little bit ahead in passing TDs, but Tannehill evened that out with some 300 more rushing yds. I'd take Tannehill pretty comfortably over Brady in dynasty. In the FEB DLF mock Tannehill averaged out at 82 overall and Brady at 156 across the six startups they mocked.Not if B is competing for a championship. Brady > Tannehill (at least for a year or 2 rental for a championship run) and Edelman > Wallace/4.01 especially PPR.This is a horrible trade for team B!!! Horrible!!!
I would rather have Tannehill in a vacuum but some context could really sort out opinions here
But Edelman is definitely more valuable than Wallace at this point in time, especially with the playoff run fresh in mind, so all in all I'd say the trade is very fair. If this is non-idp the 4.01 holds very little value. The unknown factor is Wallace and where he ends up playing next season.
FFPC is also a different animal in terms of QB's, it's heavily devalued due to off-season roster limitations making it hard to keep multiple QB's. Amazing QB deals can be had every season. Not saying there is not value in a long terms stud like Luck or Rodgers, but generally speaking the age gap among QB's is less of a market mover than you see in most leagues.
I hope that was sarcasm.I think he'll be startable. Just not elite.bostonfred said:
I had no idea DT was being viewed at as a player in demise. I for sure like the DT side of this deal but Hopkins was very impressive for most of last season before nagging injuries and QB injuries finally go the better of him. But at some point one has to assume the QB pendulum between these two will eventually swing back to something at least close to being more equal. Getting the 1.10 in what I view as a very deep draft and I don't see this trade as so much being down on DT as being high on Hopkins while getting a few years younger and nice pick.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
1.11 and 2.06
For
2016 1st (top 6) 2016 2nd (top 6)
2.05 and 2016 2nd (bottom 6)
For
2016 1st
For
2016 1st (top 6) 2016 2nd (top 6)
2.05 and 2016 2nd (bottom 6)
For
2016 1st
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Unless that's a lead-pipe lock top 6 with plenty of potential to be a top 2, I wouldn't take that for 1.11 right now. You can wait and let the hype bubble and get a better deal later.
Similar to above, one wouldn't have had to include the 2016 2nd later on. And one might have even gotten something else thrown in if this was an on the clock offer for someone hot. I made multiple deals like this last year that netted me the 1st this year and moved back into the second/third rather than give up the pick altogether.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
The top picks are lotteried off so the only thing you can really predict is top or bottom 6 based on roster.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
Team A Shane Vereen, 2.7, 2.10
Team B Devonta Freeman, Kyle Rudolph
ffpc, ppr. Team B has a ton of picks and best TE prior to deal was Richard Rodgers
Team B Devonta Freeman, Kyle Rudolph
ffpc, ppr. Team B has a ton of picks and best TE prior to deal was Richard Rodgers
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If this is the FFPC these are both INCREDIBLY good deals.
2nd rounders carry maybe 1/3 the value of a normal second rounder in deeper leagues. Late 1sts are even devalued.
This is how top teams stay on top in the FFPC (or any league with the losers lottery really, but especially leagues with smaller rosters due to offseason cuts)
One More Rep
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
Doesn't cripple your compete now team and sets you up for the long term a little better I like it. Not a fan of Mettenberger at all so maybe that has something to do with it.
wakelawyer
Footballguy
16-team salary cap IDP dynasty:
Team A (in tough cap shape) gets:
Flacco (4 years at $6,8 million)
Jeremy Hill (1 year at $420,000)
Mathieu (4 years at $550,000)
Team B gets:
Rivers (2 years at $13.8 million)
Jeffery (4 years at $1.03 million)
Mychal Kendricks (4 years at $1.01 million)
Jonathan Cyprian (4 years at $994,000)
Veteran draft pick 5.12 (became Prince Shembo at $495,000)
By the way, they both joined the league this year and are friends.
Team A (in tough cap shape) gets:
Flacco (4 years at $6,8 million)
Jeremy Hill (1 year at $420,000)
Mathieu (4 years at $550,000)
Team B gets:
Rivers (2 years at $13.8 million)
Jeffery (4 years at $1.03 million)
Mychal Kendricks (4 years at $1.01 million)
Jonathan Cyprian (4 years at $994,000)
Veteran draft pick 5.12 (became Prince Shembo at $495,000)
By the way, they both joined the league this year and are friends.
Last edited by a moderator:
One More Rep
Footballguy
I like the SEA RB's at that cost
Gurley for me
Vereen
Picks
Expensive salary dump but I get it. Tough giving up Jeffery for that but makes sense
One More Rep
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
This is a weird one cause if the guy with 2/5 decided to trade back a few times, he could probably end up with a couple 1sts this year and a couple next year, or maybe even five total 1sts.
I can't really see someone pay five 1sts for Jeffrey.
The overall value goes to the picks here, but that is also the side taking the major gamble with not nearly as big of a reward as there is risk.
Last edited by a moderator:
It is a gamble but I don't mind making it for some teams.
The Calvin side is win now but I like Floyd/CP/picks for a rebuilding team or reloading. For me Latimer=CP now so Floyd/1.06/1.13 is probably light for Calvin but not too bad imo. I do like Floyd more than some others though
Jeffery for me but I guess if you are desperate for a RB and love Gordon or Gurley it might work
Last edited by a moderator:
One More Rep
Footballguy
Don't see why you need to hit both for it to payoff, it's not impossible at all for any one player to exceed Alshon. It's a gamble but I'd rather have the pics to work with.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I can see Alshon cratering. Cutler might not be much but he's better than a lot of the guys behind door #2. He took a massive leap forward after his rookie year - but that was also when trestman arrived. They're changing offensive systems again, and John fox isn't known for loving the pass offense, despite manning's success in Denver. there's a lot of turmoil here, and while I can certainly see Jeffreys value going up a little, it won't go up much.
So while I can see the boom/bust concern with the draft picks, I don't think cashing out for two high picks can be a huge mistake.
So while I can see the boom/bust concern with the draft picks, I don't think cashing out for two high picks can be a huge mistake.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Jeremy
Footballguy
Maybe, but you have to have a buyer. The offers I'm getting for top 2 picks is a mid 1st and a late 2015 or 2016 2nd. Kinda depends on the league I guess. I can't get close to the value on the trade charts.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Right, you only really have to hit with one. Anyone that traded Jeffery for Mike Evans + something last year made out very well. Unfortunately, I was on the wrong end of that one.
One More Rep
Footballguy
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
it's an interesting deal and i can see both sides but personally prefer the #2 + #5. keep the 2 and draft Gurley or Gordon and can turn the #5 into a later 1st + future 1st.
Just too much value in the 2 and 5 to pass on the deal even if you want to trade the picks.
As Ghostguy posted you could probably turn those picks into 5 or so 1sts with some maneuvering and that's worth a lot more than Jeffery (or pretty much any player)
