**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

[maxhyde]

Just accepted receiving Calvin for M Bryant, 2.09 and 4.09. My team is kind of old and Bryant has a lot of promise, but I felt like it was good value for Calvin.

Excellent value for Calvin. As much as I like Bryant, a 2.09 would not bridge the gap between them for me as a Calvin owner.

1.03-1.08 pick added in and I doubt I would sell Calvin for that....Well done

 

[maxhyde]

14 team devy, 2014 champ which is important context.

Gave:

Duron Carter

Troy Niklas

4.09

4.12

2015 1, 2, 3, 4 round rookie picks

2015 devy pick (we do one round)

Got:

D'haquille Williams

Maybe an overpay but no shot at him without an overpay so well done on getting your guy.

Carter and Niklas are likely just roster spots you free up and hard to roster all those picks if you are a deep solid team.

I might rather have overpaid for somebody else but I generally like consolidation moves which are usually overpays

 

[EBF]

That seems like a lot for Duke Williams. I'd have to think he's more than a 2nd-4th rounder to do that.

It will be worth it if you're right, but there's not much margin for error.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

context or not that is an overpay imo, if roster spots are tight that would help my opinion, but even if that is Duron, 1.14, 2.14, 3.14 and Devy 14 thats expensive, it's not outrageous or anything but I'd rather have kept your side!

Maybe an overpay but no shot at him without an overpay so well done on getting your guy.

Carter and Niklas are likely just roster spots you free up and hard to roster all those picks if you are a deep solid team.

I might rather have overpaid for somebody else but I generally like consolidation moves which are usually overpays

That seems like a lot for Duke Williams. I'd have to think he's more than a 2nd-4th rounder to do that.

It will be worth it if you're right, but there's not much margin for error.

You guys are all right. Definitely an overpay, definitely a consolidation move, definitely a gamble on one prospect that is a year out and isn't considered in that can't-miss Cooper/Watkins mold of recent devy history. And it is a league with deep rosters so I don't need the roster spots. I just saw it as trading a future late 1st, future late devy, and a bunch of lottery tickets for a guy I'd have no shot at otherwise (if I'm right about him).This is a PPR league where we only have to start one RB and can start up to 4 WR's, and WR's are all valued at a ridiculous premium (partially my fault for amassing a ton of value in picks and prospects early on and making a bunch of godfather deals for four top-6 WR's)

Going into our third season, even with only one round of Devy's from all classes the 2016 draft is looking totally drained of obvious talent right now. These guys are all gone:

Ezekiel Elliot

Derrick Henry

Alex Collins

Cory Clement

Thomas Tyner

Laquan Treadwell

D'haquille Williams

Corey Davis

Robert Foster

Rashard Higgins

Josh Doctson

Mike Williams

Josh Reynolds

Tyler Boyd

De'Runnya Wilson

DeMarcus Robinson

Bucky Hodges

There are a bunch of WR names in there you'd never expect to see in a one-round all-class devy draft, so you can see how highly any WR with potential is valued in this league, people are really reaching.

I think Duke Williams is going to have a huge year with Jeremy Johnson throwing the ball and I love his skill-set so I figured now was my only chance at him, especially with a bunch of late future picks and lottery tickets.

And most importantly, I can afford to be wrong because my roster is one of the best in the league--if I hit, I can extend my window, if I miss, the odds of me hitting a difference maker with those pieces was equally low.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team FFPC

Lamar Miller

Reggie Bush

Steven Ridley

for

Gio Bernard

Bishop Sankey

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team FFPC

Matt Forte

Jordan Cameron

2016 4th

for

Jordy Nelson

Russel Wilson

Antonio Gates

 

[maxhyde]

12 team FFPC

Lamar Miller

Reggie Bush

Steven Ridley

for

Gio Bernard

Bishop Sankey

Gio/Sankey

12 team FFPC

Matt Forte

Jordan Cameron

2016 4th

for

Jordy Nelson

Russel Wilson

Antonio Gates

Overvalue of Forte and undervalue of Nelson?

I will take the Nelson side and for the record I like Cameron alot

 

[One More Rep]

12 team FFPC

Lamar Miller

Reggie Bush

Steven Ridley

for

Gio Bernard

Bishop Sankey

Gio/Sankey

 

[One More Rep]

12 team FFPC

Matt Forte

Jordan Cameron

2016 4th

for

Jordy Nelson

Russel Wilson

Antonio Gates

Jordy/Russ

 

[bostonfred]

12 team FFPC

Matt Forte

Jordan Cameron

2016 4th

for

Jordy Nelson

Russel Wilson

Antonio Gates

Jordy side by a lot

 

[jeaton6]

12 team FFPC

Lamar Miller

Reggie Bush

Steven Ridley

for

Gio Bernard

Bishop Sankey

Oof. Gio side. Sankey was free.

 

[jeaton6]

12 team FFPC

Matt Forte

Jordan Cameron

2016 4th

for

Jordy Nelson

Russel Wilson

Antonio Gates

Jordy side by a lot

Agreed

 

[Soulfly3]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Just accepted receiving Calvin for M Bryant, 2.09 and 4.09. My team is kind of old and Bryant has a lot of promise, but I felt like it was good value for Calvin.

Excellent value for Calvin. As much as I like Bryant, a 2.09 would not bridge the gap between them for me as a Calvin owner.

Just accepted receiving Calvin for M Bryant, 2.09 and 4.09. My team is kind of old and Bryant has a lot of promise, but I felt like it was good value for Calvin.

Oof. Terrible

Yikes

I have to think you could get more than that for Calvin

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I made a similar trade got 1.04 and 2.08 for him

 

[King of the Jungle]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I thought you really liked Cooks?

 

[Soulfly3]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I thought you really liked Cooks?

Love him. And im more torn up about this than I should be considering Ill be getting Cooper or White (who I both have ranked very highly)

I just loved cooks and watching him play.

 

[Sabertooth]

Not sure I have Thomas over Graham. But otherwise pretty lopsided.

I think Graham is in for a hard fall in a year or two.

Graham is only 11 months older than Thomas.

Yeah I don't get this at all. How Graham is "old" is mind-boggling. I'm still on the lookout for anyone in my leagues to feel this way about Jimmy. Haven't found one yet.

I didn't necessarily say it was because he was old. I just don't think he is going to continue being the player everyone expects. I would much rather have Thomas.

Opinions differ. Right now, today I'd take Graham. No uncertainty for me there. Both players are colossal assets to any team. I think Thomas has a bit more uncertainty and that gives me some pause. He could sign elsewhere. If he stays, Peyton might hit the wall. It isn't a matter of if, but a matter of when that happens. Nobody plays forever and he's at the tail end. Whether it's 2 weeks or 2 years away is the question.

 

[One More Rep]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I would do the same

 

[Sabertooth]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I thought you really liked Cooks?

Love him. And im more torn up about this than I should be considering Ill be getting Cooper or White (who I both have ranked very highly)

I just loved cooks and watching him play.

Yeah, I really wish Josh Gordon hadn't happened. So much hyperbole in that thread that I don't know where to seperate facts from hype with you.

 

[Soulfly3]

Just traded away Brandin Cooks for the 1.02

12 team PPR

I thought you really liked Cooks?

Love him. And im more torn up about this than I should be considering Ill be getting Cooper or White (who I both have ranked very highly)I just loved cooks and watching him play.

Yeah, I really wish Josh Gordon hadn't happened. So much hyperbole in that thread that I don't know where to seperate facts from hype with you.

Meh, I think it's mostly clear when/where Im being an ###. The FFA and that thread. Haha.

 

[SleepyIDP]

12 team Superflex No PPR

J Locker

J Brown(Ariz WR)

For

M Glennon

A Smith(SF LB)

Owner hoping for a position change for Smith? Seems kinda meh-

 

[fruity pebbles]

16 team TE premium IDP league. Rebuilding team traded Jimmy Graham for the 1.01, 1.04, Mychal Kendricks and J Pierre Paul.

 

[One More Rep]

16 team TE premium IDP league. Rebuilding team traded Jimmy Graham for the 1.01, 1.04, Mychal Kendricks and J Pierre Paul.

That is a fine return for Graham in a rebuild

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

 

[Aunt Jemima]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz, not close

 

[ghostguy123]

16 team TE premium IDP league. Rebuilding team traded Jimmy Graham for the 1.01, 1.04, Mychal Kendricks and J Pierre Paul.

That is a fine return for Graham in a rebuild

Agree

 

[One More Rep]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz for me. Even with the bad injury

 

[jtd13]

12 team Superflex No PPR

J Locker

J Brown(Ariz WR)

For

M Glennon

A Smith(SF LB)

Owner hoping for a position change for Smith? Seems kinda meh-

That still didn't clear it up

 

[menobrown]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz for me. Even with the bad injury

Yes agree, for what non-proven elite QB's for this time of the year in the FFPC this is pretty close to Cruz for free.

 

[ex-ghost]

Any Gordon trades recently?

 

[SleepyIDP]

12 team Superflex No PPR

J LockerJ Brown(Ariz WR)

For

M Glennon

A Smith(SF LB)

Owner hoping for a position change for Smith? Seems kinda meh-

That still didn't clear it up

My apologies .....John Brown ...lol

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz for me. Even with the bad injury

Yes agree, for what non-proven elite QB's for this time of the year in the FFPC this is pretty close to Cruz for free.

Thanks for the input. I'm high on Teddy B. and not sold on cruz returning anywhere near his old self.

260/403 64.5% 2919 Yards 7.24 YPA 14 TDs 12 INTs with Jennings, C. Johnson, and Patterson. IF they get him a WR1, I like the upside. Cruz was my WR5.

 

[menobrown]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz for me. Even with the bad injury

Yes agree, for what non-proven elite QB's for this time of the year in the FFPC this is pretty close to Cruz for free.

Thanks for the input. I'm high on Teddy B. and not sold on cruz returning anywhere near his old self.

260/403 64.5% 2919 Yards 7.24 YPA 14 TDs 12 INTs with Jennings, C. Johnson, and Patterson. IF they get him a WR1, I like the upside. Cruz was my WR5.

I'm also not sold on Cruz coming back to his old self. To be honest the more I mull it over Cruz is like Teddy B to me in that he's not a roster lock when cuts are due-just depends on roster makeup but on most of my teams I'd prefer to gamble on Cruz but if you are feeling Teddy B I don't see this as one sided.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

10 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only.

Start QRRWWT + flex. 5 year max contracts, 5 player rookie squad. Each team gets $500/season for FAs, money rolls over year to year.

BF receives Dez Bryant (2 yr), pick 1.06, 2016 1st (likely 6-10)

FJ receives picks 1.03, 1.04

XF receives Dem. Thomas (2 yr), Gio Bernard (4 yr), Charles Johnson (1-5 yrs)

BF receives J.Landry (1-5 yrs), D.Moncrief (1-5 yrs), Desean Jackson (2 yr), $200

 

[JackReacher]

FFPC 12-Team PPR

Victor Cruz for Bridgewater

Cruz for me. Even with the bad injury

Yes agree, for what non-proven elite QB's for this time of the year in the FFPC this is pretty close to Cruz for free.

Thanks for the input. I'm high on Teddy B. and not sold on cruz returning anywhere near his old self.260/403 64.5% 2919 Yards 7.24 YPA 14 TDs 12 INTs with Jennings, C. Johnson, and Patterson. IF they get him a WR1, I like the upside. Cruz was my WR5.

I'm also not sold on Cruz coming back to his old self. To be honest the more I mull it over Cruz is like Teddy B to me in that he's not a roster lock when cuts are due-just depends on roster makeup but on most of my teams I'd prefer to gamble on Cruz but if you are feeling Teddy B I don't see this as one sided.

The trade is ok, but don't underestimate your WR5. Many good teams start 4 wides in the FFPC and their WR5 plays a lot. Much more than QB2.

 

[Biabreakable]

10 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only.

Start QRRWWT + flex. 5 year max contracts, 5 player rookie squad. Each team gets $500/season for FAs, money rolls over year to year.

BF receives Dez Bryant (2 yr), pick 1.06, 2016 1st (likely 6-10)

FJ receives picks 1.03, 1.04

XF receives Dem. Thomas (2 yr), Gio Bernard (4 yr), Charles Johnson (1-5 yrs)

BF receives J.Landry (1-5 yrs), D.Moncrief (1-5 yrs), Desean Jackson (2 yr), $200

1st trade I would rather have Dez Bryant side and the picks.

2nd trade is tougher but I think I prefer the BF side again.

 

[Sitch]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

 

[pizzatyme]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

You couldn't make it work for the 1.9? I like both sides so I guess I see it even.

 

[One More Rep]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

I prefer what you gave but it's a fair deal for both in my opinion

 

[Denver724]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

Give me the Watkins side all day long, but I'm not real high on Graham going forward. I also understand that this may be best for your team. So if it works for you that is all that matters.

 

[maxhyde]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

Even. Both sides did well here

10 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only.

Start QRRWWT + flex. 5 year max contracts, 5 player rookie squad. Each team gets $500/season for FAs, money rolls over year to year.

BF receives Dez Bryant (2 yr), pick 1.06, 2016 1st (likely 6-10)

FJ receives picks 1.03, 1.04

XF receives Dem. Thomas (2 yr), Gio Bernard (4 yr), Charles Johnson (1-5 yrs)

BF receives J.Landry (1-5 yrs), D.Moncrief (1-5 yrs), Desean Jackson (2 yr), $200

Dez

DT

10 team with limited starting lineups studs rule so I will take those guys. No idea how even 10 years of Landry+Moncrief gets anywhere close to DT for 2

 

[Biabreakable]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

I think you paid too much for Graham.

Graham has a projected 91 point advantage over Ertz or 5.69 points/game over Ertz in your scoring format. Which is significant. But not enough to give up the 1st overall pick from 2014 and the 6th pick in 2015 (DGB, Ayaji, Strong, Coleman).

It depends on the rest of your roster of course. Perhaps you can afford to give up some value for the short term advantage in points. But from a pure value perspective I think you paid a lot for the upgrade.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Graham being traded a lot

 

[Casting Couch]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

Fair trade, I like the buying somewhat low on Graham. I think Graham returns to stud status this coming year.

 

[Casting Couch]

10 team, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE only.

Start QRRWWT + flex. 5 year max contracts, 5 player rookie squad. Each team gets $500/season for FAs, money rolls over year to year.

BF receives Dez Bryant (2 yr), pick 1.06, 2016 1st (likely 6-10)

FJ receives picks 1.03, 1.04

XF receives Dem. Thomas (2 yr), Gio Bernard (4 yr), Charles Johnson (1-5 yrs)

BF receives J.Landry (1-5 yrs), D.Moncrief (1-5 yrs), Desean Jackson (2 yr), $200

Trade 1 advantage BF bigtime

Trade 2 advantage XF

 

[Sitch]

12 team TE premium league (1 .5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR for all others)

I gave: Watkins, Ertz, 1,06

I got: Graham

I'm pretty set at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. Also see a drop-off after the first 5 picks as of now. Still have the 1.09 as well

I think you paid too much for Graham.

Graham has a projected 91 point advantage over Ertz or 5.69 points/game over Ertz in your scoring format. Which is significant. But not enough to give up the 1st overall pick from 2014 and the 6th pick in 2015 (DGB, Ayaji, Strong, Coleman).

It depends on the rest of your roster of course. Perhaps you can afford to give up some value for the short term advantage in points. But from a pure value perspective I think you paid a lot for the upgrade.

I can see why some prefer that side. But, in a 1.5 TE format, I think Graham is a huge upgrade over anyone else outside of Gronk. He was banged up this year, etc and he still put up a solid season. I expect him to return to uber stud status this year. I have Julio, Jordy, Cobb, Fitz, A-Rob, etc at WR so I felt like I could part with Watkins. I also don't love his situation in Buffalo.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Another Graham deal. 16 team TE premium 1.5 ppr IDP league

Sammy Watkins

Brandin Cooks

Jerry Hughes

for

Jimmy Graham

Larry Fitzgerald

 

[One More Rep]

Another Graham deal. 16 team TE premium 1.5 ppr IDP league

Sammy Watkins

Brandin Cooks

Jerry Hughes

for

Jimmy Graham

Larry Fitzgerald

Sammy/Cooks

 

[ghostguy123]

Graham being traded a lot

Yeah, but probably cause he is actually attainable now. Watkins being traded a lot also.

Graham still going for a nice haul though most times from what I see.

I own Graham and Gronk in an FFPC league and I can't see trading either. Such a huge (projected/theoretical) advantage over the other TEs out there.