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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (2 Viewers)

12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.

 
12 team PPR

A: Dez Bryant

B: Jeremy Hill, Travis Kelce, Pick 1.02
Dez.

12 team PPR:

Gave: Jeremy Hill

Got: Charles
Depends on my roster.

I probably would just keep Hill unless I was convinced the extra couple ppg would make the difference

12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Not that valuable.

Even if 4.01 was 1.01 that is a short sale on Jimmy

 
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12 team PPR

A: Dez Bryant

B: Jeremy Hill, Travis Kelce, Pick 1.02
Dez.
12 team PPR:

Gave: Jeremy Hill

Got: Charles
Depends on my roster.I probably would just keep Hill unless I was convinced the extra couple ppg would make the difference

12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Not that valuable.Even if 4.01 was 1.01 that is a short sale on Jimmy
Yep terrible deal for former Graham owner

 
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Graham

 
16tm TE Prem 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2OFLX 1DL 2LB 1DB 1DFLX

30 man rosters w/ 3 TS

Gave: Landry, Mid-Late 2016 1st, Late 2016 1st

Got: 1.06, Top 3 proj 2016 1st, Mid-Late 2016 2nd

Not sure how I feel about this move... Have a win now team but am lacking in the RB dept, Landry was my WR4. He was the #2 scorer behind OBJ last year in this scoring format.
I like it for you. More if OFLX means up to 3QB'sWhat scoring format is Landry the #2 scoring WR?
2 WR/RB/TE. 3qbs in a 16tm lg would be nuts. And sorry, I meant #2 rookie scorer, dunno how I excludes that when I posted... Doh! PR=0.1/yard and KR=0.05/yard. So Landry got a bunch of pts being a return man last year.
 
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.

 
Wouldn't give up graham for less than a 1st. Think he'll thrive with Wilson.

12 team Ppr

Demarco Murray and Jermaine Kearse

For

Jeremy Hill and Scott Chandler TE

 
IDP, Superflex, TE Premium, and contracts (so picks carry value later)

Gave: 3.04, Rod Streater (RFA)
Got: Tom Brady (1 year deal)

Is probably just a 1 year rental due to other expiring contracts and Brady's age, but happy with that for the price

 
maxhyde said:
cstu said:
12 team PPR:

Gave: Jeremy Hill

Got: Charles
Depends on my roster.

I probably would just keep Hill unless I was convinced the extra couple ppg would make the difference
Big assumption that there will only be a couple PPG difference between them.

 
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Graham for me. Are the chances high of a rookie that went undrafted in a rookie draft highly likely to emerge? I would think the 4.1 is more than likely another Kenbrell Thompkins. No thanks.
 
maxhyde said:
cstu said:
12 team PPR:

Gave: Jeremy Hill

Got: Charles
Depends on my roster.

I probably would just keep Hill unless I was convinced the extra couple ppg would make the difference
Big assumption that there will only be a couple PPG difference between them.
Very true it is an assumption. I also assume Hill has a few more years to do his thing than Charles. Could be wrong on both counts but fantasy is a gambler's game I am willing to gamble on Hill at this point. I would rather replace my tires a year too early than a year too late

ctrlaltdefeat said:
Wouldn't give up graham for less than a 1st. Think he'll thrive with Wilson.

12 team Ppr

Demarco Murray and Jermaine Kearse

For

Jeremy Hill and Scott Chandler TE
Hill here too. I think Murray loses alot of touches moving to that offense in PHI

FFPC

Team A gets Jimmy Graham Michael Floyd

Team B gets Zach Ertz TY Hilton
Graham and Floyd pretty easily for me. Technically Graham over both with Floyd as a bonus

 
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Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
terrible

 
JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.

 
Gave: VJax

Got: Hunter

Talented, but I haven't been impressed by Hunter's skills. Perhaps a new QB changes things. Even if Hunter is a bust as least at 32 VJax won't haunt me long.

 
FFPC

Team A gets Jimmy Graham Michael Floyd

Team B gets Zach Ertz TY Hilton
Very interesting deal. Let's see if Chip decides to turn Ertz loose this year.
Love graham, *loved Floyd but I've lost faith.

Love Ertz, TY is the man.

TY side for me.
Regarding Graham, much like the "is it time to sell calvin" thread from a year ago, I was going to start one on Graham before he was traded.

He will turn 30 in the 2016 season, and I figured it would have been your last chance to cash in for a large score.

Not gonna start a thread like that now because his value based on every trade in this thread since he became a Seahawk shows that his value is way way down, so the sell-high possibility has come and gone. This trade might be the most I have seen Graham fetch so far.

It seems he went from a sell to a buy overnight (though as I mentioned, this one isn't bad. Not even sure which side I prefer).

 
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FFPC

Team A gets Jimmy Graham Michael Floyd

Team B gets Zach Ertz TY Hilton
Very interesting deal. Let's see if Chip decides to turn Ertz loose this year.
Love graham, *loved Floyd but I've lost faith.

Love Ertz, TY is the man.

TY side for me.
Regarding Graham, much like the "is it time to sell calvin" thread from a year ago, I was going to start one on Graham before he was traded.

He will turn 30 in the 2016 season, and I figured it would have been your last chance to cash in for a large score.

Not gonna start a thread like that now because his value based on every trade in this thread since he became a Seahawk shows that his value is way way down, so the sell-high possibility has come and gone. This trade might be the most I have seen Graham fetch so far.

It seems he went from a sell to a buy overnight (though as I mentioned, this one isn't bad. Not even sure which side I prefer).
There are going to be a lot of disappointed Graham owners at the end of the year and some of these trades that are being deemed terrible will look brilliant in hind sight.

 
There are going to be a lot of disappointed Graham owners at the end of the year and some of these trades that are being deemed terrible will look brilliant in hind sight.
SO Graham for something like pick 13 is an ok deal for ya then?
I think there's a good chance it could be. I personally wouldn't sell quite that low. Graham has likely dropped into the Martellus Bennett range and I think I'd take a 2.1 for him. I'd rather have Travis Kelce over either of those guys.

 
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12 Team PPR:

Team A gets: Jared Cook & 1.13 pick

Team B gets: Alfred Morris
I own team B. Unfortunately, I was foolish enough to draft Montee Ball as my #1 RB and didn't have a viable starter until this trade.

I still hold the 1.07, 1.08 & 1.11 picks.

 
JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.
It's close for me.

To the guy saying you'd deal Graham for 2.1 are we in any leagues together where you own Graham? He could tear both ACLs tomorrow and I'd give 2.1 for Graham. Since when was 2.1 the 1.1?

 
JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.
It's close for me.

To the guy saying you'd deal Graham for 2.1 are we in any leagues together where you own Graham? He could tear both ACLs tomorrow and I'd give 2.1 for Graham. Since when was 2.1 the 1.1?
I think people can't get it out of their heads how great Graham was 2 years ago. get over it...he can't stay healthy anymore, what made him was the NO offense which featured him (until last year)...now he's at Seattle and is destined for 60 catches, 700-800 yds and maybe 10 TD's which makes him worth what? 5 or 6 other TE's potentially? I can't believe people actually believe he is worth the same in Seattle......one of the worst places he could have possibly ended up.

 
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JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.
It's close for me.

To the guy saying you'd deal Graham for 2.1 are we in any leagues together where you own Graham? He could tear both ACLs tomorrow and I'd give 2.1 for Graham. Since when was 2.1 the 1.1?
Dez at that time was worth a ton more than Graham right now

Pick 13 right now, to me, is worth less than White/Jones at the time of that deal a couple years ago, but not so much less as to make up for how much more Dez (at that time) is worth than Graham (right now).

 
JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.
It's close for me.

To the guy saying you'd deal Graham for 2.1 are we in any leagues together where you own Graham? He could tear both ACLs tomorrow and I'd give 2.1 for Graham. Since when was 2.1 the 1.1?
I think people can't get it out of their heads how great Graham was 2 years ago. get over it...he can't stay healthy anymore, what made him was the NO offense which featured him (until last year)...now he's at Seattle and is destined for 60 catches, 700-800 yds and maybe 10 TD's which makes him worth what? 5 or 6 other TE's potentially? I can't believe people actually believe he is worth the same in Seattle......one of the worst places he could have possibly ended up.
You don't deal a first round pick and a a very good centre to make a guy into Greg Olsen Lite, he's not worth as much as he was in NO but he hasn't become a bum overnight. Tight Ends historically play into their mid 30s and Seattle will have to open up their passing game some next year, once they pay Wilson they can't afford to keep that defence together. Jimmy should be good for a solid 75/1000/10, you think he can't average 5 catches, 65 yards and 2/3 of a TD a game?

We're talking about Jimmy Graham, an athletic mismatch who doesn't have a tonne of wear on him from college.

Graham has been dinged up, sure and it's affected his play but for a guy who "can't stay healthy" he has only missed ONE game in his NFL career. In the years aside from his rookie year he averages about 90/1100/11. Oh and he is 28. I think what you're saying is wrong but I'm going to put in Jimmy offers in every league I'm in where I don't own him incase I can take advantage of people thinking like this.

JonB86 said:
Dragon1952 said:
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Where is Ghost? We might have a new winner for worst deal ever. This is absolutely vomit inducing.
No.

I still think Dez for White/JOnes is worse.
It's close for me.

To the guy saying you'd deal Graham for 2.1 are we in any leagues together where you own Graham? He could tear both ACLs tomorrow and I'd give 2.1 for Graham. Since when was 2.1 the 1.1?
Dez at that time was worth a ton more than Graham right now

Pick 13 right now, to me, is worth less than White/Jones at the time of that deal a couple years ago, but not so much less as to make up for how much more Dez (at that time) is worth than Graham (right now).
I still think it's close but I get the reasoning, it's not just the 2.01 for me though, it's that he gave back 2.09 and received 4.01, which was the icing on the cake of an incredibly awful deal! As if he couldn't get 2.01 for Jimmy straight up!

 
I still think it's close but I get the reasoning, it's not just the 2.01 for me though, it's that he gave back 2.09 and received 4.01, which was the icing on the cake of an incredibly awful deal! As if he couldn't get 2.01 for Jimmy straight up!
I heard ya, but the WHite/JOnes return to me wasn't much more than the return here for Graham, and this was Dez almost two years ago (as in 2 years younger and a known stud) while this is Graham now (nearing age 29 and just traded away from a pass happy offense to a run happy offense).

Most of the deals in the worst offers thread do not compare to that Dez deal.

....and I keep forgetting the Dez side even gave away a 2nd rounder. Yeesh. Yeah, that deal still hasnt been beaten.

 
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"Graham has been dinged up, sure and it's affected his play but for a guy who "can't stay healthy" he has only missed ONE game in his NFL career. In the years aside from his rookie year he averages about 90/1100/11. Oh and he is 28. I think what you're saying is wrong but I'm going to put in Jimmy offers in every league I'm in where I don't own him incase I can take advantage of people thinking like this"

Half the games he played in last year he was no more than a decoy. Yeah he played but what's the value in that? He only had maybe 5 games that could be considered comensurate with his status. He finished in a close knit tier with Antonio Gates, Martellus Bennett and Greg Olsen and he only finished 2.8 ppg better than Kelce who was reportedly held back. NO made a point of featuring him in a pass heavy offense with Brees in his prime. I don't know what kind of production you are expecting but last years numbers are likely his absolute ceiling.

It used to be Graham and Gronk in a tier by themselves, then it was Gronk in tier 1 and Graham all by himself in tier 2, now it will be Gronk and then a group of 4 or 5 in tier 2. NO let him go for a reason. It looks like they want to get more balanced and run more (kind of like Seattle does?). Brees can't fling it like he used to. Graham was becoming a distraction and his ability to stay healthy might be in question. He'll be a good red zone target in Seattle but no way he retains the value he had in NO.

 
"Graham has been dinged up, sure and it's affected his play but for a guy who "can't stay healthy" he has only missed ONE game in his NFL career. In the years aside from his rookie year he averages about 90/1100/11. Oh and he is 28. I think what you're saying is wrong but I'm going to put in Jimmy offers in every league I'm in where I don't own him incase I can take advantage of people thinking like this"

Half the games he played in last year he was no more than a decoy. Yeah he played but what's the value in that? He only had maybe 5 games that could be considered comensurate with his status. He finished in a close knit tier with Antonio Gates, Martellus Bennett and Greg Olsen and he only finished 2.8 ppg better than Kelce who was reportedly held back. NO made a point of featuring him in a pass heavy offense with Brees in his prime. I don't know what kind of production you are expecting but last years numbers are likely his absolute ceiling.

It used to be Graham and Gronk in a tier by themselves, then it was Gronk in tier 1 and Graham all by himself in tier 2, now it will be Gronk and then a group of 4 or 5 in tier 2. NO let him go for a reason. It looks like they want to get more balanced and run more (kind of like Seattle does?). Brees can't fling it like he used to. Graham was becoming a distraction and his ability to stay healthy might be in question. He'll be a good red zone target in Seattle but no way he retains the value he had in NO.
you would think he missed more than one game from the inexplicable 0's he puts up on more weeks then any stud should.

and brees still threw it for nearly 5k and 33 tds, how does he not sling it like he used to?

 
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12 Team PPR:

Team A gets: Jared Cook & 1.13 pick

Team B gets: Alfred Morris
I own team B. Unfortunately, I was foolish enough to draft Montee Ball as my #1 RB and didn't have a viable starter until this trade.

I still hold the 1.07, 1.08 & 1.11 picks.
I think it's a good move. Morris is a solid rb2 in ppr and who knows if/when the 1.13 will produce
Morris is not a guy I want in PPR, especially as my number one back. 17th in RB scoring in 2014; 25th in PPG. I factor PPG heavily so he is not a RB2 for me. Washington could also draft a back. Much rather take chance on guy like Duke, Perriman or Coates at 1.13. Is that a conditional pick (12-team league)?
 
12 Team PPR:

Team A gets: Jared Cook & 1.13 pick

Team B gets: Alfred Morris
I own team B. Unfortunately, I was foolish enough to draft Montee Ball as my #1 RB and didn't have a viable starter until this trade.

I still hold the 1.07, 1.08 & 1.11 picks.
I think it's a good move. Morris is a solid rb2 in ppr and who knows if/when the 1.13 will produce
Morris is not a guy I want in PPR, especially as my number one back. 17th in RB scoring in 2014; 25th in PPG. I factor PPG heavily so he is not a RB2 for me. Washington could also draft a back. Much rather take chance on guy like Duke, Perriman or Coates at 1.13. Is that a conditional pick (12-team league)?
My guess is 1.13 is for winning toilet bowl last (I have a few leagues like this). Morris is not ideal rb1 but when your best back is Montee Ball he is an upgrade. I also can't think of another starting back that you can get for that price. There are some backups that cost more.

 

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