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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)

Here's a huge one that I just completed. Both teams were contenders and likely still are. 12 team PPR.

I gave: Calvin, 2.3 and 2016 1 (5-8, not mine)

I received: Hopkins and the 1.1.
I think the 2016 1st you gave has a reasonable chance to be better than that. I still like your side a little better
Could be. It was 1.5 last year and has some potential breakout players that teams above it don't and made some moves to shore up RB corps. Also plays in by far the weakest division so potential to eke out some wins there they didn't get previous year. Maybe 4-8 would have been a better assessment.

 
16-team tiered PPR (0.5, 1.0, 1.5 for RB, WR, TE) IDP league. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB

Team A receives D. Thomas, J. Bell, V Cruz

Team B receives A. Brown, C.J. Spiller, Marvin Jones, Jerrell Freeman

Additional info: Players receive points for punt and kick returns. Thus Brown has been the number 1 WR the last two years, outscoring the # 2 (DT) by over 50 points last year. Jerrell Freeman is a middle of the road LB2.
No thoughts on this one?
Brown side i suppose considering format, i also like spiller to be a solid rb2 this year. Could go the other way depending on how cruz rehabs and how the lions use joique.
 
Gave: Hilton, Stewart, 1.10

Got: 1.1, Lynch, Turbin
Gave: some

Got: a lot
Seems pretty fair to me. 1.1 for Hilton, and 1.10+Stewart for Lynch+Turbin.
1.1 > Hilton

Lynch, Turbin > 1.10, Stew
I have Hilton dead even with the 1.1 - little concern he's going catch 80 passes a year.

Did like the Lynch upgrade over Stewart for the 1.10 even though I'm a Stewart fan. Don't trust his health though and despite his bad back Lynch stays on the field.

 
Not in any of these. Same two teams were involved in both trades.

Team A:

Tre Mason, StL
Brandin Cooks
2.06

Team B:

Latavius Murray
Markus Wheaton
2.01, 2.02, 2.07 and 3.01

Team A

Julio Jones
Reggie Bush
Darren Sproles
2016 2nd

Team B

Mark Ingram

Odell Beckham Jr.
Denard Robinson
2016 3rd

 
Not in any of these. Same two teams were involved in both trades.

Team A:

Tre Mason, StL

Brandin Cooks

2.06

Team B:

Latavius Murray

Markus Wheaton

2.01, 2.02, 2.07 and 3.01

Team A

Julio Jones

Reggie Bush

Darren Sproles

2016 2nd

Team B

Mark Ingram

Odell Beckham Jr.

Denard Robinson

2016 3rd
Tre/Cooks

Julio

 
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell

 
12 team, 1ppr, start 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE

Team A gave: Jimmy Graham, 2.9

Team B gave: 2.1, 4.1

Important note: The rookie draft is broken up into rounds 1-3 in May and rounds 4-6 in late August.

Obviously a lot can come out in the wash by late August so that 4.1 pick can be very valuable.
Interesting setup. Never heard of this before. I like how it gets everyone involved a lot earlier than the normal late August draft does. Whats the feedback and how long have you been doing this?
I'm actually in at least 2....maybe 3 leagues that do this. We've been doing it for 4 or 5 years I guess....since inception. I think most everyone likes it....especially if you have an early 4th :^ )

It really does benefit the inferior teams in that the later round picks can be much more valuable than they would be otherwise, both pick and trade-wise.

 
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
So team A got:

RB: Hyde, Crowell, L. Murray, Ingram, Shoelace

WR: Adams, Moncrief, OBJ

TE: Amaro

Picks: 2.01, 2.02, 2.07, 3.01, 2016 3rd

And gave:

RB: Riddick, Mason, Bush, Sproles

WR: Julio, DT, Landry, Cooks

TE: Olsen

Picks: 2.06, 2015 2nd

I'm pretty mixed on that. I liked their Julio for OBJ trade alright, but the Cooks + Mason deal was pretty bad given that they're rebuilding. The last trade will also look really bad if Hyde or Moncrief don't live up to their potential. I think it was an overpay to give up DT, Landry, and Olsen, but that is a nice set of young talent they brought back. If they can flip Ingram for decent value, that will help a bit too. Still, I don't think Julio, DT, Mason, Cooks, Landry, and Olsen brought quite enough back, and of them only Olsen should have been a priority to sell, given his age.

 
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One More Rep said:
Hawkfire said:
Not in any of these. Same two teams were involved in both trades.

Team A:

Tre Mason, StL

Brandin Cooks

2.06

Team B:

Latavius Murray

Markus Wheaton

2.01, 2.02, 2.07 and 3.01

Team A

Julio Jones

Reggie Bush

Darren Sproles

2016 2nd

Team B

Mark Ingram

Odell Beckham Jr.

Denard Robinson

2016 3rd
Tre/Cooks

Julio
If IDP (and IDP are relevant) I'll take the side gaining three 2nds. Otherwise Tre/Cooks.

OBJ and Ingram, rather easily for me. Even if Julio and OBJ are equal, I'd take Ingram.

Hawkfire said:
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
I like the group of youth in a rebuild, so I get the mindset but he didn't get enough back.

Olsen > Amaro

Wheaton ~ Moncrief

Riddick < Crowell

Landry ~ Adams

DT >> Hyde

 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!

 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.

 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.
Except they aren't really close enough for most people. Wheaton carries minimal value and there are a lot of people very high on Moncrief despite "not doing a whole lot last year".

Also, Riddick is WW material while Crowell is considered a top 15 RB by most.

And despite all that, DT still worth more.

 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.
Except they aren't really close enough for most people. Wheaton carries minimal value and there are a lot of people very high on Moncrief despite "not doing a whole lot last year".

Also, Riddick is WW material while Crowell is considered a top 15 RB by most.

And despite all that, DT still worth more.
Im trying to gauge what Riddick's value really is. Surprised to see you say he is WW material. Im not expecting him to be my RB2 this season, but with Bush gone and only Joique Bell to worry about, I think he has a chance to show what he can do this season. He did pretty well in very limited touches last year, granted almost all of his production came in the passing game. From a trade persecutive I see him as basically a sweetener on top of a deal to tip the scales. A decent RB 4 today with the potential to be a lot more in a good offense, playing on a fast track. Its not like the FF RB pool is all that deep. Guys that get 10ish touches are all going to be rostered. If he takes over the Reggie Bush role, he should see 10ish touches per game, right?

This is a Rotoworld blurb from this morning, for what its worth:

Coach Jim Caldwell expressed confidence in Theo Riddick last week.
With Reggie Bush gone, Riddick is entrenched in his natural passing back role. "We try and give (the ball) to the guys who are going to do something with it, and I think he's going to be one of those guys who's going to force us to give him the ball more," Caldwell said. "I think you're really going to see him come along." Riddick racked up 367 yards and four touchdowns on just 54 touches last season. It's an unsustainable rate but gave PPR owners a glimpse of the ceiling he has. Any role Riddick has in the run game behind starter Joique Bell will depend on what the Lions do in the draft.



 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.
Except they aren't really close enough for most people. Wheaton carries minimal value and there are a lot of people very high on Moncrief despite "not doing a whole lot last year".

Also, Riddick is WW material while Crowell is considered a top 15 RB by most.

And despite all that, DT still worth more.
Im trying to gauge what Riddick's value really is. Surprised to see you say he is WW material. Im not expecting him to be my RB2 this season, but with Bush gone and only Joique Bell to worry about, I think he has a chance to show what he can do this season. He did pretty well in very limited touches last year, granted almost all of his production came in the passing game. From a trade persecutive I see him as basically a sweetener on top of a deal to tip the scales. A decent RB 4 today with the potential to be a lot more in a good offense, playing on a fast track. Its not like the FF RB pool is all that deep. Guys that get 10ish touches are all going to be rostered. If he takes over the Reggie Bush role, he should see 10ish touches per game, right?

This is a Rotoworld blurb from this morning, for what its worth:

Coach Jim Caldwell expressed confidence in Theo Riddick last week.
With Reggie Bush gone, Riddick is entrenched in his natural passing back role. "We try and give (the ball) to the guys who are going to do something with it, and I think he's going to be one of those guys who's going to force us to give him the ball more," Caldwell said. "I think you're really going to see him come along." Riddick racked up 367 yards and four touchdowns on just 54 touches last season. It's an unsustainable rate but gave PPR owners a glimpse of the ceiling he has. Any role Riddick has in the run game behind starter Joique Bell will depend on what the Lions do in the draft.
I am going to take exception to the other half of that statement.

The only people I know that think Crowell is a top 15 RB are the ones trying to sell him to me for that price. I don't even think they believe that is why they are selling

 
Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.
Except they aren't really close enough for most people. Wheaton carries minimal value and there are a lot of people very high on Moncrief despite "not doing a whole lot last year".Also, Riddick is WW material while Crowell is considered a top 15 RB by most.

And despite all that, DT still worth more.
Im trying to gauge what Riddick's value really is. Surprised to see you say he is WW material. Im not expecting him to be my RB2 this season, but with Bush gone and only Joique Bell to worry about, I think he has a chance to show what he can do this season. He did pretty well in very limited touches last year, granted almost all of his production came in the passing game. From a trade persecutive I see him as basically a sweetener on top of a deal to tip the scales. A decent RB 4 today with the potential to be a lot more in a good offense, playing on a fast track. Its not like the FF RB pool is all that deep. Guys that get 10ish touches are all going to be rostered. If he takes over the Reggie Bush role, he should see 10ish touches per game, right?This is a Rotoworld blurb from this morning, for what its worth:

Coach Jim Caldwell expressed confidence in Theo Riddick last week.

With Reggie Bush gone, Riddick is entrenched in his natural passing back role. "We try and give (the ball) to the guys who are going to do something with it, and I think he's going to be one of those guys who's going to force us to give him the ball more," Caldwell said. "I think you're really going to see him come along." Riddick racked up 367 yards and four touchdowns on just 54 touches last season. It's an unsustainable rate but gave PPR owners a glimpse of the ceiling he has. Any role Riddick has in the run game behind starter Joique Bell will depend on what the Lions do in the draft.



I am going to take exception to the other half of that statement.The only people I know that think Crowell is a top 15 RB are the ones trying to sell him to me for that price. I don't even think they believe that is why they are selling
Including rookies, his current ADP is RB18. I apologize for saying top 15 instead of top 18.Eta -- Riddick is RB52. I believe my point stands that there is significant value difference between those two.

 
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Moncrief has a ton more value than Wheaton, but not enough to offset the other value differences so I agree with you overall!
They're close enough IMO. Moncrief's upside is higher but he didn't do a whole lot last year and the Colts brought in AJ so I wouldn't expect much in 2015 either.
Except they aren't really close enough for most people. Wheaton carries minimal value and there are a lot of people very high on Moncrief despite "not doing a whole lot last year".

Also, Riddick is WW material while Crowell is considered a top 15 RB by most.

And despite all that, DT still worth more.
:shrug: thought we were expressing our personal opinions here.

But then, I still like Wheaton. so maybe it's a disagreement there instead of how we view Moncrief.

 
Hawkfire said:
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
I like the group of youth in a rebuild, so I get the mindset but he didn't get enough back.

Olsen > Amaro

Wheaton ~ Moncrief

Riddick < Crowell

Landry ~ Adams

DT >> Hyde
Hyde, Adams = DT

Moncrief > Landry

Crowell > Olsen

Amaro > Wheaton, Riddick

 
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Superflex

Gave: Teddy Bridgewater

Got: Jamaal Charles

My QBs are now Cam, Romo, and EJ Manuel. So lacking some depth there but my RBs are now

Marshawn

Jamaal

Jeremy

Crow and West

Joseph Randle

If I get into trouble with Cam or Romo, I can flex in Hill.

 
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Superflex

Gave: Teddy Bridgewater

Got: Jamaal Charles

My QBs are now Cam, Romo, and EJ Manuel. So lacking some depth there but my RBs are now

Marshawn

Jamaal

Jeremy

Crow and West

Joseph Randle

If I get into trouble with Cam or Romo, I can flex in Hill.
Am I crazy for not liking this move? Teddy is a young QB, and he probably finishes in the QB1 range for at least a few seasons, maybe quite a few seasons. I could see him outscoring Charles in both the short and long term. You have Romo, so your base lineup will still have 2 QB and 2 stud RB (I'm assuming you start 2), but if one of those guys goes down you will be in big trouble. I would like this move much more in a re-draft.

 
14 team Qrwwftkd. Non ppr, 6pts all tds, -3 all turnovers.

Flurry of trades by a rebuilding team. Prior to the trade his roster included

Qb: matt ryan, Brian hoyer

rb: Carlos Hyde, Rashad Jennings, Fred Jackson, Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

wr: ty Hilton, Anquan boldin, Michael Crabtree, wes Welker

te: Zach rudolph, Jared cook, Brandon Bostick

d: miami, nyj

Trade 1:

hero gives kyle rudolph

hero gets 2.12, 3.5, 4.3

Trade 2:

hero gives Jared cook

hero gets 3.10, 2016 2nd (middle of the pack)

Trade 3:

Hero gives matt ryan

hero gets Phillip rivers, Stevan ridley, lance dunbar, 3.4

Trade 4:

hero gives Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

hero gets Brandon lafell, Chris Johnson

 
Superflex

Gave: Teddy Bridgewater

Got: Jamaal Charles

My QBs are now Cam, Romo, and EJ Manuel. So lacking some depth there but my RBs are now

Marshawn

Jamaal

Jeremy

Crow and West

Joseph Randle

If I get into trouble with Cam or Romo, I can flex in Hill.
Am I crazy for not liking this move? Teddy is a young QB, and he probably finishes in the QB1 range for at least a few seasons, maybe quite a few seasons. I could see him outscoring Charles in both the short and long term. You have Romo, so your base lineup will still have 2 QB and 2 stud RB (I'm assuming you start 2), but if one of those guys goes down you will be in big trouble. I would like this move much more in a re-draft.
No, I think it's a mistake.

 
14 team Qrwwftkd. Non ppr, 6pts all tds, -3 all turnovers.

Flurry of trades by a rebuilding team. Prior to the trade his roster included

Qb: matt ryan, Brian hoyer

rb: Carlos Hyde, Rashad Jennings, Fred Jackson, Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

wr: ty Hilton, Anquan boldin, Michael Crabtree, wes Welker

te: Zach rudolph, Jared cook, Brandon Bostick

d: miami, nyj

Trade 1:

hero gives kyle rudolph

hero gets 2.12, 3.5, 4.3

Trade 2:

hero gives Jared cook

hero gets 3.10, 2016 2nd (middle of the pack)

Trade 3:

Hero gives matt ryan

hero gets Phillip rivers, Stevan ridley, lance dunbar, 3.4

Trade 4:

hero gives Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

hero gets Brandon lafell, Chris Johnson
I dont understand d trades 3 and 4 for rebuilder

 
Hawkfire said:
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
I like the group of youth in a rebuild, so I get the mindset but he didn't get enough back.

Olsen > Amaro

Wheaton ~ Moncrief

Riddick < Crowell

Landry ~ Adams

DT >> Hyde
Hyde, Adams = DT

Moncrief > Landry

Crowell > Olsen

Amaro > Wheaton, Riddick
cool, we disagree on every one of these.

 
Well, ridley is a potential starting running back, depending where he lands. Dallas, San Diego, Minnesota would all be great landing spots and Arizona, the Jets and some other teams wouldn't be too bad either. he also said he would be willing to trade rivers, so he might be trying to add value on two different trades.

Ball/hillman aren't starters and might never be, so getting a 1100/9 receiver for them wasnt bad. Chris Johnson is probably worthless but he might land somewhere good and garner a pick at some point too.

 
Hawkfire said:
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
I like the group of youth in a rebuild, so I get the mindset but he didn't get enough back.

Olsen > Amaro

Wheaton ~ Moncrief

Riddick < Crowell

Landry ~ Adams

DT >> Hyde
Hyde, Adams = DT

Moncrief > Landry

Crowell > Olsen

Amaro > Wheaton, Riddick
cool, we disagree on every one of these.
That should be a < toward DT. Would take the rest of them the way they are.

 
14 team Qrwwftkd. Non ppr, 6pts all tds, -3 all turnovers.

Flurry of trades by a rebuilding team. Prior to the trade his roster included

Qb: matt ryan, Brian hoyer

rb: Carlos Hyde, Rashad Jennings, Fred Jackson, Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

wr: ty Hilton, Anquan boldin, Michael Crabtree, wes Welker

te: Zach rudolph, Jared cook, Brandon Bostick

d: miami, nyj

Trade 1:

hero gives kyle rudolph

hero gets 2.12, 3.5, 4.3

Trade 2:

hero gives Jared cook

hero gets 3.10, 2016 2nd (middle of the pack)

Trade 3:

Hero gives matt ryan

hero gets Phillip rivers, Stevan ridley, lance dunbar, 3.4

Trade 4:

hero gives Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

hero gets Brandon lafell, Chris Johnson
I dont understand d trades 3 and 4 for rebuilder
More pieces and younger. I would imagine CJ is easier to drop on a rebuilder than Ball or Hillman and flipping Rivers and Lafell shouldn't be tough if you aren't looking to break the bank

 
Superflex

Gave: Teddy Bridgewater

Got: Jamaal Charles

My QBs are now Cam, Romo, and EJ Manuel. So lacking some depth there but my RBs are now

Marshawn

Jamaal

Jeremy

Crow and West

Joseph Randle

If I get into trouble with Cam or Romo, I can flex in Hill.
Am I crazy for not liking this move? Teddy is a young QB, and he probably finishes in the QB1 range for at least a few seasons, maybe quite a few seasons. I could see him outscoring Charles in both the short and long term. You have Romo, so your base lineup will still have 2 QB and 2 stud RB (I'm assuming you start 2), but if one of those guys goes down you will be in big trouble. I would like this move much more in a re-draft.
I had all those same thoughts. But if one of my QBs goes down I have the flexibility of sticking Jeremy Hill or Isiah Crowell into my flex.

 
14 team Qrwwftkd. Non ppr, 6pts all tds, -3 all turnovers.

Flurry of trades by a rebuilding team. Prior to the trade his roster included

Qb: matt ryan, Brian hoyer

rb: Carlos Hyde, Rashad Jennings, Fred Jackson, Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

wr: ty Hilton, Anquan boldin, Michael Crabtree, wes Welker

te: Zach rudolph, Jared cook, Brandon Bostick

d: miami, nyj

Trade 1:

hero gives kyle rudolph

hero gets 2.12, 3.5, 4.3

Trade 2:

hero gives Jared cook

hero gets 3.10, 2016 2nd (middle of the pack)

Trade 3:

Hero gives matt ryan

hero gets Phillip rivers, Stevan ridley, lance dunbar, 3.4

Trade 4:

hero gives Montee ball, Ronnie hillman

hero gets Brandon lafell, Chris Johnson
I dont understand d trades 3 and 4 for rebuilder
More pieces and younger. I would imagine CJ is easier to drop on a rebuilder than Ball or Hillman and flipping Rivers and Lafell shouldn't be tough if you aren't looking to break the bank
I see the more pieces but not the younger. I have Lafell in multiple leagues and can't even sniff a late 2 or 2016 2. I would think Ball/Hillman combo could provide better return to Anderson owner than Lafell. He gave up 3+ years from Ryan to Rivers (and a top 6 Dyno QB) and picked up a wildcard in Ridley, Dunbar who holds little trade value and the 3.4. I think he could have gotten more out of Ryan and the Ball/Hillman combo.

 
I see the more pieces but not the younger. I have Lafell in multiple leagues and can't even sniff a late 2 or 2016 2. I would think Ball/Hillman combo could provide better return to Anderson owner than Lafell. He gave up 3+ years from Ryan to Rivers (and a top 6 Dyno QB) and picked up a wildcard in Ridley, Dunbar who holds little trade value and the 3.4. I think he could have gotten more out of Ryan and the Ball/Hillman combo.
I am not saying it is great value for either or that I would do them in a rebuild. I would try to pick and choose which assets you sell off a little more selectively but selling everything is another method. The Ryan to Rivers deal I actually think could turn out pretty well depending where Ridley ends up. Assuming he had less than half the league to deal with for Ryan not terrible anyway.

The Ball/Hillman combo has more name value than you will get in any trade...FWIW I wouldn't have made that deal at all

 
blardorg said:
amicsta said:
Hankmoody said:
League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02
I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile
Totally agreed.
Gurley side for me
Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.

 
cstu said:
FUBAR said:
cstu said:
Hawkfire said:
Team A traded 1.03 to acquire DT then did this trade

Olsen

Wheaton

Riddick

Landry

DT

Team B:

Adams

Amaro

Hyde

Moncrief

Crowell
I like the group of youth in a rebuild, so I get the mindset but he didn't get enough back.

Olsen > Amaro

Wheaton ~ Moncrief

Riddick < Crowell

Landry ~ Adams

DT >> Hyde
Hyde, Adams = DT

Moncrief > Landry

Crowell > Olsen

Amaro > Wheaton, Riddick
cool, we disagree on every one of these.
That should be a < toward DT. Would take the rest of them the way they are.
Yes it's officially time to start sending out offers for DT

 
blardorg said:
amicsta said:
Hankmoody said:
League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02
I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile
Totally agreed.
Gurley side for me
Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.
Whose the best prospect other than Gurley?

 

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