**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)

[amicsta]

League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02

I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile

Totally agreed.

Gurley side for me

Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.

Whose the best prospect other than Gurley?

To me, its Cooper hands down. Better longevity based on position, and one of the best WR prospects in recent memory. Slam dunk for me. Not that Gurley isn't awesome, I just think that if you're looking to take Brandon Marshall over Jordan Matthews soley to get Gurley its foolish. Matthews will probably outscore Marshall this season and has a much longer career left.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team superkeeper (keep 18/25), 4 pt. passing TD

Peyton Manning

for

Cam Newton and I. Crowell

Newton/Crowell - not close

Yeah, what is this one??

I jsut saw Manning traded for two 3rds

 

[ghostguy123]

12t ppr qb rbrb wrwrwr te flex (rb/wr/te)

Team A trades Morris, Quick, 2016 2nd

Team B trades 1.05

This one is bad

 

[bostonfred]

12t ppr qb rbrb wrwrwr te flex (rb/wr/te)

Team A trades Morris, Quick, 2016 2nd

Team B trades 1.05

This one is bad

Morris is worth a late first/early second, maybe a bit less, depending who you ask. Quick is worth a future second or third, depending who you ask.

A late first and two seconds for 1.5 isn't that bad. It's probably an over pay as a package but it's hardly obscene.

 

[bostonfred]

12 team superkeeper (keep 18/25), 4 pt. passing TD

Peyton Manning

for

Cam Newton and I. Crowell

Newton/Crowell - not close

Yeah, what is this one??

I jsut saw Manning traded for two 3rds

this, on the other hand, is obscene

 

[solorca]

This was a double trade over the course of a couple weeks...but the plan was always to flip the pieces. I have a team that has a couple really nice pieces, but it was lacking everywhere else. As such, I had the 1.02 pick (and was fortunate enough to win the toilet bowl, which gave me the 1.13 as well).

Full series...

Gave - 1.02, 1.13, Gavin Escobar

Received - Jimmy Graham, Donte Moncrief, Tyler Eifert, CJ Spiller

First trade was 1.02/Escobar for Moncrief, Eifert, CJ Anderson, Ball

Second trade was 1.13/Anderson/Ball for Graham and Spiller

 

[maxhyde]

League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02

I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile

Totally agreed.

Gurley side for me

Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.

Whose the best prospect other than Gurley?

To me, its Cooper hands down. Better longevity based on position, and one of the best WR prospects in recent memory. Slam dunk for me. Not that Gurley isn't awesome, I just think that if you're looking to take Brandon Marshall over Jordan Matthews soley to get Gurley its foolish. Matthews will probably outscore Marshall this season and has a much longer career left.

So are average players for longer are better than good players for shorter? Just curious I am not saying Cooper is going to be average

 

[maxhyde]

This was a double trade over the course of a couple weeks...but the plan was always to flip the pieces. I have a team that has a couple really nice pieces, but it was lacking everywhere else. As such, I had the 1.02 pick (and was fortunate enough to win the toilet bowl, which gave me the 1.13 as well).

Full series...

Gave - 1.02, 1.13, Gavin Escobar

Received - Jimmy Graham, Donte Moncrief, Tyler Eifert, CJ Spiller

First trade was 1.02/Escobar for Moncrief, Eifert, CJ Anderson, Ball

Second trade was 1.13/Anderson/Ball for Graham and Spiller

You killed both of these.

That second trade is great value even if you don't have to start a TE

 

[amicsta]

League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02

I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile

Totally agreed.

Gurley side for me

Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.

Whose the best prospect other than Gurley?

To me, its Cooper hands down. Better longevity based on position, and one of the best WR prospects in recent memory. Slam dunk for me. Not that Gurley isn't awesome, I just think that if you're looking to take Brandon Marshall over Jordan Matthews soley to get Gurley its foolish. Matthews will probably outscore Marshall this season and has a much longer career left.

So are average players for longer are better than good players for shorter? Just curious I am not saying Cooper is going to be average

No, but like I said they are both elite prospects, so I'll take the guy who will play longer.

In any event, basing a trade of a player that is younger and better off a move 1 spot in the draft order doesn't make much sense to me. That was more of my point. I would take Matthews over Marshall this season, and certainly over the next n number of years.

 

[JackReacher]

12t ppr qb rbrb wrwrwr te flex (rb/wr/te)

Team A trades Morris, Quick, 2016 2nd

Team B trades 1.05

This one is bad

Morris is worth a late first/early second, maybe a bit less, depending who you ask. Quick is worth a future second or third, depending who you ask.

A late first and two seconds for 1.5 isn't that bad. It's probably an over pay as a package but it's hardly obscene.

Not an overpay in my book; much prefer the 1.5

 

[bostonfred]

I prefer 1.5 too. I'm saying 1.5 is an over pay to get those pieces, but a late first wouldn't be a huge over pay for Morris, a second isn't a huge overpay for quick, and 1.5 isn't a huge overpay to get a late first and two seconds, so by that logic it can't be THAT big an overpay to give 1.5 for that package.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I prefer 1.5 too. I'm saying 1.5 is an over pay to get those pieces, but a late first wouldn't be a huge over pay for Morris, a second isn't a huge overpay for quick, and 1.5 isn't a huge overpay to get a late first and two seconds, so by that logic it can't be THAT big an overpay to give 1.5 for that package.

In a ppr league I wouldn't pay a late first for Morris.

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

I'd take the picks - if I really felt I was a contender it would be with great reluctance, but ultimately I'd just think I was getting too much value to pass up the deal.

 

[cstu]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

I'd take the picks - if I really felt I was a contender it would be with great reluctance, but ultimately I'd just think I was getting too much value to pass up the deal.

Definitely picks. FFPC has 16 roster spots, right?

 

[Pwingles]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

Picks easily imo

 

[One More Rep]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

Picks

 

[FUBAR]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

Picks easily imo

I take the picks but if contending that's close.

Murray is worth more to a contender than the 1.05

Stills could easily be worth more than a late 2016 1st - I like the fit in Miami

Vereen is a wildcard. Could be a good RB2 but if the team was a contender before the trade would Vereen even help?

 

[bostonfred]

Murray is worth way more than 1.5. 1.5 and a late future first isn't an unrealistic offer to move up to 1.1 and get Gurley, and I'd take Murray like one pick ahead of Gurley in a startup.

vereen is worth a late future first. I really believe he is in for a huge bump this year, especially in ppr. Coughlin's talking about using him on early downs as a runner. Andre Williams is hot garbage. Jennings is old. If you can get vereen for less than a first in ppr, do it.

So to me, this is stills for free. But I don't like stills at all, so that's a fair price.

 

[fredsavage]

League in sig

Brandon Marshall and 1.01

for

Jordan Matthews and 1.02

I'll take the Jordan Matthews side by a mile

Totally agreed.

Gurley side for me

Are you assuming that Gurley is the 1.01? I think that would make me like the Jordan Matthews side even more. Then he'd get the better, younger receiver AND the best prospect in the draft.

Whose the best prospect other than Gurley?

To me, its Cooper hands down. Better longevity based on position, and one of the best WR prospects in recent memory. Slam dunk for me. Not that Gurley isn't awesome, I just think that if you're looking to take Brandon Marshall over Jordan Matthews soley to get Gurley its foolish. Matthews will probably outscore Marshall this season and has a much longer career left.

So are average players for longer are better than good players for shorter? Just curious I am not saying Cooper is going to be average

No, but like I said they are both elite prospects, so I'll take the guy who will play longer.

In any event, basing a trade of a player that is younger and better off a move 1 spot in the draft order doesn't make much sense to me. That was more of my point. I would take Matthews over Marshall this season, and certainly over the next n number of years.

I think Gurley is a bona fide stud rb and due to positional scarcity is worth the downgrade from Matthews. Also think there are a huge number of fantasy relevant Wrs in this year's draft so taking a few later fliers is more likely to yield starters than would be the case taking later rbs. I think this trade is very fair without considering team needs

 

[mzkp54]

12 team, tiered PPR: RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.25

Morris, Helu

for

1.10, '16 2nd

 

[Pwingles]

12 team, tiered PPR: RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.25

Morris, Helu

for

1.10, '16 2nd

I like both sides in the .5ppr format, gun to my head, id say the players over the picks. But closeIs the 1.10 his pick? If not, where does the '16 2nd project to be?

 

[thunderguns]

I gave: Dwayne Allen

I got: 3.01

No idea if this was good value in a vacuum, but my team had too many TE (Kelce, Reed, Hill, Escobar) and IMO the odd scoring system (2pt PPR, bonuses for average length of catch when >> 7 receptions, etc) devalues low volume TD dependent players somewhat.

Still, 3.01 is really just a dart throw so who knows.

 

[mzkp54]

12 team, tiered PPR: RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.25

Morris, Helu

for

1.10, '16 2nd

I like both sides in the .5ppr format, gun to my head, id say the players over the picks. But closeIs the 1.10 his pick? If not, where does the '16 2nd project to be?

I'd guess 2nd half of the draft- he has a pretty good team

 

[ghostguy123]

12t ppr qb rbrb wrwrwr te flex (rb/wr/te)

Team A trades Morris, Quick, 2016 2nd

Team B trades 1.05

This one is bad

Morris is worth a late first/early second, maybe a bit less, depending who you ask. Quick is worth a future second or third, depending who you ask.

A late first and two seconds for 1.5 isn't that bad. It's probably an over pay as a package but it's hardly obscene.

Not an overpay in my book; much prefer the 1.5

Exactly

 

[jeaton6]

I gave: Dwayne Allen

I got: 3.01

No idea if this was good value in a vacuum, but my team had too many TE (Kelce, Reed, Hill, Escobar) and IMO the odd scoring system (2pt PPR, bonuses for average length of catch when >> 7 receptions, etc) devalues low volume TD dependent players somewhat.

Still, 3.01 is really just a dart throw so who knows.

I'd take Allen by quite a bit. Most TE's won't catch 7+ balls a game anyways and he has the potential to still catch 50-60 balls per year. The 3.1 is a shot on the dark.

 

[One More Rep]

I gave: Dwayne Allen

I got: 3.01

No idea if this was good value in a vacuum, but my team had too many TE (Kelce, Reed, Hill, Escobar) and IMO the odd scoring system (2pt PPR, bonuses for average length of catch when >> 7 receptions, etc) devalues low volume TD dependent players somewhat.

Still, 3.01 is really just a dart throw so who knows.

I have seen him going for 2.3-2.6 range

 

[opensourcebeer]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

 

[JackReacher]

12 Team PPR QRRWWWT

A gets Foster

B gets 2.1, 2.5

A is contending, B major rebuild

 

[jeaton6]

12 Team PPR. Same league. Keep 20.

Couple small ones I just did.

Gave Britt and 3.2

Got Ball and 3.9

I'm Anderson owner looking to protect myself in case Anderson doesn't win job (not likely) or gets hurt. Britt was my WR9.

Gave Bowe and 5.12

Got 2.12.

Short on picks wanted to get some upside or a chip to possibly move up. Also opened up a roster spot so can keep a prospect like Brice Butler or a top 5 DST (Rams) as my 20th keeper. Bowe was my WR8.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 Team PPR QRRWWWT

A gets Foster

B gets 2.1, 2.5

A is contending, B major rebuild

Foster side no matter my situation, then look to move him for one much better pick either in August or during the season

 

[One More Rep]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

Mason but close

 

[One More Rep]

12 Team PPR QRRWWWT

A gets Foster

B gets 2.1, 2.5

A is contending, B major rebuild

12 Team PPR QRRWWWT

A gets Foster

B gets 2.1, 2.5

A is contending, B major rebuild

Cheap for Foster

 

[Run It Up]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

Even though I think Kelce is a stud, I gotta take Mason, especially with the best ball format, Wright is a TD magnet.

 

[cstu]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

Even though I think Kelce is a stud, I gotta take Mason, especially with the best ball format, Wright is a TD magnet.

Same. A lot of good young TE's today, not so many RB's.

 

[JonB86]

14 Team Superflex PPR (I've given the pick number as there are compensatory picks that throw off the draft order)

Team A: Duron Carter, Pick 48

Team B: Pick 31, 2016 3rd This will be equivalent to a late third/early fourth thanks to compensatory picks for bad teams.

Which side?

 

[Hankmoody]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

....and if he doesn't make the roster he's worth nothing.

 

[Soulfly3]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

....and if he doesn't make the roster he's worth nothing.

someone else will pick him up if he's cut, he had his share of interest.

 

[Denver724]

14 Team Superflex PPR (I've given the pick number as there are compensatory picks that throw off the draft order)

Team A: Duron Carter, Pick 48

Team B: Pick 31, 2016 3rd This will be equivalent to a late third/early fourth thanks to compensatory picks for bad teams.

Which side?

I traded away Carter in this deal. 19 man season roster had a lot to do with it. I have 18 on my roster now (after the trade) with no D and seven 2015 draft picks. Must be at 25 after the draft and 19 the week before the start of the season. BB waivers after the draft. Carter, and other flyers on my roster, probably weren't sticking anyway. But there is always a chance he hits big. The small roster leagues are very challenging.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

....and if he doesn't make the roster he's worth nothing.

someone else will pick him up if he's cut, he had his share of interest.

i don't think there was much interest in him at all. he came in wanting a nice signing bonus, nobody offered him one. If he was in any kind of demand some team would have given him some kind of signing bonus to lock him in.

FF people love him for some reason, real NFL teams didn't. He's probably 50/50 to be on an NFL roster this season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/06/colts-deal-for-duron-carter-included-no-signing-bonus-at-all/

 

[cstu]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

....and if he doesn't make the roster he's worth nothing.

someone else will pick him up if he's cut, he had his share of interest.

i don't think there was much interest in him at all. he came in wanting a nice signing bonus, nobody offered him one. If he was in any kind of demand some team would have given him some kind of signing bonus to lock him in.

FF people love him for some reason, real NFL teams didn't. He's probably 50/50 to be on an NFL roster this season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/06/colts-deal-for-duron-carter-included-no-signing-bonus-at-all/

Like I've said, give me someone a team used a draft pick on.

 

[pizzatyme]

FFPC 12 Team TE 1.5PPR Premium

Team A Gave:

Gresham, 2.2, 2.12, 3.2, 2106 1st (top 4) 2016 2nd mid to late

Team B Gave:

1.5, 1.8 2016 4th, and 2016 5th

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC 12 Team TE 1.5PPR Premium

Team A Gave:

Gresham, 2.2, 2.12, 3.2, 2106 1st (top 4) 2016 2nd mid to late

Team B Gave:

1.5, 1.8 2016 4th, and 2016 5th

Picks 5 and 8 rather easily, especially considering pick 8 can PROBABLY be traded straight up for a surefire 2016 1st that will be non playoff, which means Gresham and a few 2nds for pick 5???

No idea what that team was thinking

 

[JonB86]

14 Team Superflex PPR (I've given the pick number as there are compensatory picks that throw off the draft order)

Team A: Duron Carter, Pick 48

Team B: Pick 31, 2016 3rd This will be equivalent to a late third/early fourth thanks to compensatory picks for bad teams.

Which side?

I traded away Carter in this deal. 19 man season roster had a lot to do with it. I have 18 on my roster now (after the trade) with no D and seven 2015 draft picks. Must be at 25 after the draft and 19 the week before the start of the season. BB waivers after the draft. Carter, and other flyers on my roster, probably weren't sticking anyway. But there is always a chance he hits big. The small roster leagues are very challenging.

It's an interesting league, we did gain a roster spot in effect this season by getting rid of kickers but the short roster affects decisions. If 3rd rounders work out in this league they often do so on other peoples rosters as there often isn't room to fit them on to your own squad at the cutdown. Carter could very well end up getting cut, pick 31 could have as well if I'd kept it!

 

[FUBAR]

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

Even though I think Kelce is a stud, I gotta take Mason, especially with the best ball format, Wright is a TD magnet.

Same. A lot of good young TE's today, not so many RB's.

I'm not big on Tre, but RIU is right - in best ball that's a good deal.

FFPC 12 Team TE 1.5PPR Premium

Team A Gave:

Gresham, 2.2, 2.12, 3.2, 2106 1st (top 4) 2016 2nd mid to late

Team B Gave:

1.5, 1.8 2016 4th, and 2016 5th

Picks 5 and 8 rather easily, especially considering pick 8 can PROBABLY be traded straight up for a surefire 2016 1st that will be non playoff, which means Gresham and a few 2nds for pick 5???

No idea what that team was thinking

Yeah, plus I'd expect a better return rate if I'm waiting until 2106.

 

[Atomic Punk]

If that's all I'm getting I'll hold Duron. One pulled hamsting by AJ + one 6/80/2 from Carter and you'll be getting > future 1's for him.

....and if he doesn't make the roster he's worth nothing.

someone else will pick him up if he's cut, he had his share of interest.

i don't think there was much interest in him at all. he came in wanting a nice signing bonus, nobody offered him one. If he was in any kind of demand some team would have given him some kind of signing bonus to lock him in.

FF people love him for some reason, real NFL teams didn't. He's probably 50/50 to be on an NFL roster this season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/06/colts-deal-for-duron-carter-included-no-signing-bonus-at-all/

I watched Carter extensively in the CFL and I cannot fathom what people are seeing in him. As with most CFLers, they just can't hold up to the higher skill level in the NFL.

 

[Denver724]

14 Team Superflex PPR (I've given the pick number as there are compensatory picks that throw off the draft order)

Team A: Duron Carter, Pick 48

Team B: Pick 31, 2016 3rd This will be equivalent to a late third/early fourth thanks to compensatory picks for bad teams.

Which side?

I traded away Carter in this deal. 19 man season roster had a lot to do with it. I have 18 on my roster now (after the trade) with no D and seven 2015 draft picks. Must be at 25 after the draft and 19 the week before the start of the season. BB waivers after the draft. Carter, and other flyers on my roster, probably weren't sticking anyway. But there is always a chance he hits big. The small roster leagues are very challenging.

It's an interesting league, we did gain a roster spot in effect this season by getting rid of kickers but the short roster affects decisions. If 3rd rounders work out in this league they often do so on other peoples rosters as there often isn't room to fit them on to your own squad at the cutdown. Carter could very well end up getting cut, pick 31 could have as well if I'd kept it!

Agreed. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[maxhyde]

FFPC- both teams competing for championship this year

DeMarco Murray, Shane Vereen, and Kenny Stills

for

1.5, (2) 2016 1sts which I feel will be mid to late picks.

Good deal for a contender getting Murray. Stills and Vereen have enough value I can see making this move

12 team, tiered PPR: RB-.5, WR-1, TE-1.25

Morris, Helu

for

1.10, '16 2nd

Close. Tiered PPR I might pay that for the RB.

disclaimer: I hate buying RB before the draft though unless it is a great deal...this is not a great deal

I gave: Dwayne Allen

I got: 3.01

No idea if this was good value in a vacuum, but my team had too many TE (Kelce, Reed, Hill, Escobar) and IMO the odd scoring system (2pt PPR, bonuses for average length of catch when >> 7 receptions, etc) devalues low volume TD dependent players somewhat.

Still, 3.01 is really just a dart throw so who knows.

Allen for me

12 team ppr, best ball scoring, start qrrwwwtfkd

Team A gives: Travis Kelce, Bryce Brown

Team B gives: Tre Mason, Tim Wright

I think I would rather have Kelce in best ball with a must start TE

12 Team PPR QRRWWWT

A gets Foster

B gets 2.1, 2.5

A is contending, B major rebuild

Foster

14 Team Superflex PPR (I've given the pick number as there are compensatory picks that throw off the draft order)

Team A: Duron Carter, Pick 48

Team B: Pick 31, 2016 3rd This will be equivalent to a late third/early fourth thanks to compensatory picks for bad teams.

Which side?

Not Carter

 

[maf005]

Foster for 2.01, 2.05 is good for both sides. I really doubt we see any trades where Foster returns more value than the 2.01 and 2.05